Anybody heard of this? Seems too good to be true.
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Jul 27 2016, 04:00 PM, updated 10y ago
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Jul 27 2016, 06:45 PM
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Interesting, parking
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Jul 28 2016, 08:00 AM
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I am in too, investment is all about taking risk and see whether you dare to risk or not. But one thing that I gained all over the years is that don't be greedy if you get any returns, control the risk rather than ruling by greed within you 😀
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Jul 28 2016, 08:37 AM
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Again about this topic.
Epic! Bravo! GLHF |
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Jul 28 2016, 01:26 PM
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20% monthly?
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Jul 28 2016, 02:48 PM
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forex haram
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Jul 28 2016, 03:13 PM
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the return so nice? -.-
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Jul 28 2016, 03:14 PM
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High risk high pay
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Jul 30 2016, 10:30 PM
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As they said
1 How much profit (%) can I earn every month as an investor? You can earn a fixed 20% of your investment every month as Investor Incentive. and 8 Does JJPTR allows compounding of its monthly profits? No. Compounding of monthly profits earned is not allowed. All profits earned are bank-in directly into your bank account every month. However you are allowed to top up your investment fund every month, up to the maximum of 1 000 USD per account. * If I invest 100 USD means only after 5 months I can got back my CAPITAL but 2 Can I withdraw my investment fund at any time? YES. There is no locking period of fund invested. You can withdraw your investment at anytime. However, every withdrawal is subjected to 1 % withdrawal fee upon approval. There is no charges for withdrawal of monthly profit which is bank-in directly into your bank account. * I can withdrawn at 1st or 2nd month with my capital mean I'm earning total of 38% from my CAPITAL ? Correct me if I'm wrong |
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Aug 1 2016, 07:49 AM
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Genneva - 3% monthly return, turned out to be scam
This one, 20% monthly return, do you think can be legit? |
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Aug 1 2016, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Aug 1 2016, 07:49 AM) Genneva - 3% monthly return, turned out to be scam shhh, got many ppl actually fall into that and earn 20% happily, (yes, I know u all did receive the 20% okie.... but I pray hard for them) This one, 20% monthly return, do you think can be legit? I don't wish to comment any further on this JJglobal. GLHF! |
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Aug 1 2016, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(kennykong85 @ Aug 1 2016, 04:27 PM) shhh, got many ppl actually fall into that and earn 20% happily, (yes, I know u all did receive the 20% okie.... but I pray hard for them) I got back all my money since i joined in last year Dec. Receiving 1k++ on monthly basis. To good to be true? Yes i do think so. But today I'm just chilling while watching the money bank in to me!I don't wish to comment any further on this JJglobal. GLHF! Just 2cent. |
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Aug 2 2016, 01:57 PM
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Aug 2 2016, 03:26 PM
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Aug 2 2016, 03:37 PM
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abang, u see also know it's forex scam.
still got people fall for this in 2016? |
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Aug 2 2016, 04:27 PM
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These kind of scheme is all about timing and luck... if u join early, then u're mostly safe and earn a few if nothing happens... everyone knows there's a risk, it depends if u want to take it or not...
it's almost like a pyramid scheme, if more and more people join, the platform would probably lasts longer... you're basically taking money from the people below you... there are usually no investment involved... those who say that there are investment involved are most likely lying to you... This post has been edited by nodeffect: Aug 2 2016, 04:29 PM |
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Aug 3 2016, 02:10 PM
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Not sure whether is a scam or what..... Still getting RM1k++ every month without miss from them....
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Aug 3 2016, 06:36 PM
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Aug 23 2016, 09:27 AM
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1. If you want to be rich you need to take risk. Example: Opening a Factory / Franchise. Hundreds of Thousands to few Million is at risk but the reward is huge. 5 figure income
without doing anything. 2. Getting a degree is also a risk. We are not sure whether our degree will secure us getting a high pay job or not but most of us do take the risk. 3. If you do not take risk and rely on 4% Fixed Deposit. You will stay where you are. 4. You can invest 1 month and take back your capital and let your profit grow itself. - You don lost anything after a month. 5. Please pm me if you want to know more about risk and investment. I have few of them that can share with you guys. |
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QUOTE(David Keong @ Aug 23 2016, 09:27 AM) 1. If you want to be rich you need to take risk. Example: Opening a Factory / Franchise. Hundreds of Thousands to few Million is at risk but the reward is huge. 5 figure income certainly agree that there is no free risk investment.without doing anything. 2. Getting a degree is also a risk. We are not sure whether our degree will secure us getting a high pay job or not but most of us do take the risk. 3. If you do not take risk and rely on 4% Fixed Deposit. You will stay where you are. 4. You can invest 1 month and take back your capital and let your profit grow itself. - You don lost anything after a month. 5. Please pm me if you want to know more about risk and investment. I have few of them that can share with you guys. |
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Aug 24 2016, 10:29 AM
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How much did u invest?
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Aug 25 2016, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(Lyu @ Aug 24 2016, 11:29 AM) RM4200 -> RM760/Month based on current rate.If I want to eliminate all risk, I can take back my RM4200 (Modal) and let my profit multiple 20% itself but of course it will slow things down cox my capital had highly reduced. So it really depends on individual on adjusting the Risk:Reward ratio. |
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Aug 25 2016, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(Azurika @ Jul 27 2016, 04:00 PM) Too good to be true. I'm here one of the true. It depends on individual whether you're in #yolo mode or play safe work and save money in a decent life. |
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See 2017 sure got ppl cry. Lol They claim they use jjprofx as their broker. Google it and u will find 0 review on them. That shows the broker is new and I am pretty sure they created this broker mainly to support this scheme Anyway, those already in profit, I advice withdraw your capital and suck as much money as u can Those not yet in but considering it, I suggest u stay away far2 Definitely a pyramid or Ponzi scheme, 110% guarantee This post has been edited by brotan: Sep 4 2016, 05:52 PM |
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QUOTE(David Keong @ Aug 23 2016, 09:27 AM) 1. If you want to be rich you need to take risk. Example: Opening a Factory / Franchise. Hundreds of Thousands to few Million is at risk but the reward is huge. 5 figure income A similar scheme has just popped up recently. Meaning it still has leg room to run. PM me if u want to know more .without doing anything. 2. Getting a degree is also a risk. We are not sure whether our degree will secure us getting a high pay job or not but most of us do take the risk. 3. If you do not take risk and rely on 4% Fixed Deposit. You will stay where you are. 4. You can invest 1 month and take back your capital and let your profit grow itself. - You don lost anything after a month. 5. Please pm me if you want to know more about risk and investment. I have few of them that can share with you guys. |
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Sep 12 2016, 11:39 PM
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Worth to Invest? JJPTR
CEO Johnson Lee, JJ Poor TO RICH. Just the name sounds dodgy, but since its still in its early stages, worth to put money in? |
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Sep 13 2016, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(samo1390 @ Sep 12 2016, 11:39 PM) Worth to Invest? JJPTR Someone here been investing since December, so I think it's kinda late already... You need like 5 months to earn back your "investment" and that does not guarantee that you will be getting back your "initial investment" after that 5 months if you start now...CEO Johnson Lee, JJ Poor TO RICH. Just the name sounds dodgy, but since its still in its early stages, worth to put money in? |
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Sep 13 2016, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(tjying95 @ Sep 13 2016, 01:55 AM) Someone here been investing since December, so I think it's kinda late already... You need like 5 months to earn back your "investment" and that does not guarantee that you will be getting back your "initial investment" after that 5 months if you start now... Did you manage to invest? Any actual return? |
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Sep 13 2016, 12:03 PM
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i had a fren who just invested 2 months ago, and he is getting 20% for each month. not sure how long this will last before crumbling down.
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Sep 13 2016, 01:32 PM
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Same, but I would always doubt it until i see the actual bank statement/online statement from my friend, which i am still waiting for his first month bank in.
its effing 20% return each month, without doing anything!!! |
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Sep 13 2016, 01:35 PM
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I wonder if one puts 100k in, will get $20k back each month, or, the company will be satisfied and disappear.
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Sep 13 2016, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(David Keong @ Aug 25 2016, 11:22 AM) RM4200 -> RM760/Month based on current rate. JJPTR I also invest. If I want to eliminate all risk, I can take back my RM4200 (Modal) and let my profit multiple 20% itself but of course it will slow things down cox my capital had highly reduced. So it really depends on individual on adjusting the Risk:Reward ratio. Now I invest PTM4U. Already take back capital. I invest 21500 |
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Guys, we all know that this is a ponzi scheme and there's nothing about investment here. It's all about taking a gamble and hoping you're not the last person on the train so gamble what you can lose. Stop saying this is an investment......
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Sep 15 2016, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(malfogs @ Sep 15 2016, 12:30 PM) Yeah. Weekly 4300...... If not active become 2150 per week.. You gonna take the bonus 2150 until the company close .... If you active. You back to 4300 weekly. Wanna join under me?I got few board to play. Info and update also fast. So far never lose yet playing all this. Their system just upgrade for PTM4U. This post has been edited by glamour: Sep 15 2016, 01:16 PM |
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QUOTE(glamour @ Sep 15 2016, 01:15 PM) Yeah. Weekly 4300...... If not active become 2150 per week.. You gonna take the bonus 2150 until the company close .... If you active. You back to 4300 weekly. Wanna join under me? PMI got few board to play. Info and update also fast. So far never lose yet playing all this. Their system just upgrade for PTM4U. |
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I joint Jjptr and I have no complains. Btw, I joins some scheme weekly 50% before. It's lasted for 8 weeks before shitz happens. There is many schemes out there, just invest with mindful that money can lost out of sudden ! And never go get loan to invest, saw few borrowing to invest ended up investment burst. |
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Sep 18 2016, 10:38 AM) I joint Jjptr and I have no complains. So far JJPTR and PTM4U still nothing happen. No complain too. Btw, I joins some scheme weekly 50% before. It's lasted for 8 weeks before shitz happens. There is many schemes out there, just invest with mindful that money can lost out of sudden ! And never go get loan to invest, saw few borrowing to invest ended up investment burst. But honestly invest if you have extra. All this is like gamble. No 100% guarantee it won't close. For my side, both JJPTR and PTM4U I already taken my capital. Would say I'm in the safe side. Just taking the bonus till the company say bye bye to me. If got new investment. Do update. |
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Wow this PMT4U?
I'm here in jjptr. Anyone interested to join for jjptr? |
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lol. I saw a lot of idiots easily lured by scammer in here.
no bank would want to give loan if they can get 20% monthly return elsewhere. |
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Sep 19 2016, 07:34 PM
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Now got new game.
igofx. Google it. Almost same like JJPTR. This post has been edited by glamour: Sep 19 2016, 07:34 PM |
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how about aurich?
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Kecian..JJPTR but all Broker using @gmail, @Hotmail, @yahoo (!)
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Anyone want to know more about JJPTR?
As we know there are no free lunch in the world. As you want a high return in your investment, you must take the risk. If you want a zero risk investment, you better go to the FD in the bank, no risk but low return, the interest even can't cover the nflation nowadays. I am working as an investment consultant, anyone want to know more about investment can pm me. We got few investments plan for you. This post has been edited by waihoe1994: Sep 21 2016, 12:12 PM |
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QUOTE(waihoe1994 @ Sep 21 2016, 01:11 PM) Anyone want to know more about JJPTR? Yes, you will get free lunch if you are able to last for 6 months. Those that joined before Apr-16 have gotten back all their capitals and now enjoying their free Starbucks every morning. As we know there are no free lunch in the world. As you want a high return in your investment, you must take the risk. If you want a zero risk investment, you better go to the FD in the bank, no risk but low return, the interest even can't cover the nflation nowadays. I am working as an investment consultant, anyone want to know more about investment can pm me. We got few investments plan for you. If you join this month, you will get back your capital by end of Mar-17 and then you will start to have your first lunch on end of Apr-17. (PM me for registration purposes). |
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QUOTE(glamour @ Sep 18 2016, 02:57 PM) So far JJPTR and PTM4U still nothing happen. No complain too. Can pm? Want to know more.. But honestly invest if you have extra. All this is like gamble. No 100% guarantee it won't close. For my side, both JJPTR and PTM4U I already taken my capital. Would say I'm in the safe side. Just taking the bonus till the company say bye bye to me. If got new investment. Do update. |
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QUOTE(jazz5817 @ Sep 21 2016, 02:56 PM) 1. How much profit (%) can I earn every month as an investor?You can earn a fixed 20% of your investment every month as Investor Incentive. <-- Actually is around 18% after deduct the exchange rate. 2. Can I withdraw my investment fund at any time? YES. There is no locking period of fund invested. You can withdraw your investment at anytime. However, every withdrawal is subjected to 1 % withdrawal fee upon approval. There is no charges for withdrawal of monthly profit which is bank-in directly into your bank account. 3. When is the bank-in date for distribution of Investor’s Incentives and Introducer’s Commission? 10th of the following month if you join before 10th of the month 20th of the following month if you join before 20th of the month 30th of the following month if you join before 30th of the month 4. How long does it take to see my money in my bank account after the distribution date? It should take 1 - 5 business days to see your money in your bank account. 5. What is the minimum amount to invest in JJPTR program? The minimum amount is 25 USD. <-- RM105, "Rate: x4.2" 6. What is the maximum amount allowed to invest in JJPTR program? The maximum amount allowed is 1 000 USD. <-- RM4200, "Rate: x4.2" 7. Can I deposit my funds in other currency? Yes, you can. The amount in foreign currency must be equivalent to its value in US Dollar (USD). 8. Does JJPTR allows compounding of its monthly profits? No. Compounding of monthly profits earned is not allowed. All profits earned are bank-in directly into your bank account every month. However you are allowed to top up your investment fund every month, up to the maximum of 1 000 USD per account. 9. How can I make deposit for my investment fund? You can use Telegraphic Transfer (Wire Transfer) or deposit in any of the local banks in Malaysia. 10. Is there any monthly maintenance fee? NO. You need not have to pay any monthly fees to us. Instead, you will be earning profits from us every month. You don’t have to do anything to earn these profits. It’s so easy and simple. 11. Which financial pairs of instruments does JJPTR normally trade? We normally focus on major pairs that are USD related such as GBPUSD, EURUSD, AUDUSD, USDJPY, and USDCHF. 12. On the average, how many trades per week does your team of traders perform? Our all trades are run by several of our specially selected proprietary Expert Advisors (EA) under very close monitoring by our team of experts and experienced traders. The number of trades per day may run up to 20 to 50 trades, depending on market conditions. At times, we may stop trading when there are major news release or when trading conditions are not favorable. We may even cut losses to minimize our risks and close any existing pairs that are not profitable. Hence, changing of financial trading pairs in the midst of trading, especially so when we see great winning opportunities for another particular pair, is not uncommon. The bottom line is we will never miss any chance to maximize our profits and minimize our losses to reduce our risk exposure. 13. Is JJPTR Investment Programme guaranteed? As like all other investment programs in the market today, JJPTR does not guarantee its investment ventures. Any forms of financial investment do contain certain degree of risks. As for JJPTR Investment Program, we exercise extreme care to minimize our risk exposure. Every week, our traders will study and do research on every pair of financial instruments before executing any trades for that particular week. 14. When is JJPTR established? JJPTR commences its present operation in this manner since 1 May 2015. Prior to this and presently, our traders are still managing huge amount of funds (local and overseas) for private individuals, several organizations and associations on a profit sharing basis. All our traders are on very low profiles for obvious personal reasons. 15. Is JJPTR operating globally and accepting funds world wide? YES. We do accept funds from overseas. As a matter of fact, JJPTR has already enter Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, China, Indonesia, Thailand, Australia and New Zealand. We will enter Europe in 2016. Those who want to join, u need introducer. I can be your introducer, PM me. This post has been edited by idealhometech: Sep 23 2016, 12:12 PM |
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Whether its a ponzi scheme or brilliant game or genuine investment, nobody, outsiders neither the investors (who invested) can prove. we all have to digest it hard, that, high returns equivalent fraudsters. like it or not, those invested in early stage had broke even thier capital and reaping profit and for those invested recently or deciding to now, make sure you can take losses with smiling face without much complaint.
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Sep 25 2016, 03:19 PM
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Hahaha..
Malaysia market is still many risk taker. Obviously know what is it happens but still go ahead. Greedy make u poor. Good luck and all the best to u |
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Sep 27 2016, 12:02 AM
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Investment risk? Obviously its just another ponzi scheme, the risk lying here is not when the investment goes wrong, is when they decide to run with the money. That's countless so call 'forex company' operate with same way in Malaysia in the pass few years, the only different is min. invest amount and withdraw policy, all end up proven as scam. The longest 1 last about 2 years, it's just matter of time how long this is going to last.
They only release their 'investment result' at weekend, because forex trading rest at weekend, they just need to release their so call 'result' in the weekend, when the market is in idle mode to 'prove' their profit. They wont do it in weekday, because they cant 'prove the profit in weekday'. This post has been edited by ragk: Sep 27 2016, 12:03 AM |
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Sep 27 2016, 11:24 AM
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Guys, can I know if I can register myself without introducer?
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QUOTE(glamour @ Sep 15 2016, 01:15 PM) Yeah. Weekly 4300...... If not active become 2150 per week.. You gonna take the bonus 2150 until the company close .... If you active. You back to 4300 weekly. Wanna join under me? How much is the minimum investment ?I got few board to play. Info and update also fast. So far never lose yet playing all this. Their system just upgrade for PTM4U. |
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Sep 27 2016, 11:46 PM
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Only legit 20% profit is rollover..
Other than that... |
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QUOTE(censett123 @ Sep 27 2016, 02:05 PM) Funny, all the pipu that write good thing about jjptr are non active forum members with very few post Ive invested in JJPTR and im an active member. |
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QUOTE(censett123 @ Sep 27 2016, 02:05 PM) Funny, all the pipu that write good thing about jjptr are non active forum members with very few post Hahaha. What's so funny? Some like to take risk and some don't, irrespective of whether they are active or not active members. Just don't put all your eggs in one basket. Invest a small sum (rm104) if you are afraid you can't sleep. You can lose more investing in stock market. Every investment has a little risk. Anyone interested to invest a small sum can pm anyone of us here for guidance. Good luck & Happy investing. |
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QUOTE(ragk @ Sep 27 2016, 12:02 AM) Investment risk? Obviously its just another ponzi scheme, the risk lying here is not when the investment goes wrong, is when they decide to run with the money. That's countless so call 'forex company' operate with same way in Malaysia in the pass few years, the only different is min. invest amount and withdraw policy, all end up proven as scam. The longest 1 last about 2 years, it's just matter of time how long this is going to last. please listen to this guy, valid reasoningThey only release their 'investment result' at weekend, because forex trading rest at weekend, they just need to release their so call 'result' in the weekend, when the market is in idle mode to 'prove' their profit. They wont do it in weekday, because they cant 'prove the profit in weekday'. |
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I think the issue with many ppl is that they assume that those investing in forex scams don't know its a scam. While this might be the case with a number of the investors, there is actually a large number of investors who ARE aware that these are scams.
Lets take Genneva for instance. Genneva had approximately 500,000 investors before it collapsed. Yet how many actually lost their investments and lodged reports saying they were cheated? Yes there will always be those who are afraid of lodging reports even thogh they were cheated but I know of many who made very good returns from Genneva and pulled out before it collapsed. I also know of a group of professionals who have set up companies just to invest in scams like Genneva. They have been doing it since 2010. There are certain rules that one needs to follow strictly when investing in scams: 1) Do not invest what ure not prepared to lose 2) Spread out your investments over a few scams. Never invest heavily in just one 3) Limit exposure to scams older than 1 year. In general forex scams don't last more than 1.5-2 yrs except for the elaborate ones. 4) Do your due diligence before investing. Scams which are already 'hot' and 'popular' on the net are closest to collapsing. The bigger the popularity of the scam, the faster its gonna collapse 5) Invest in scams which are elaborately set up e.g FX United, Efzinitus (both in trouble now). The more elaborate the scam, the harder for the authorities to shut it down. 6) Target scams with moderate returns e.g 11-20% per month. The higher the returns the faster the scam will reach 'maturity' and collapse. This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 28 2016, 09:48 PM |
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Sep 29 2016, 11:31 AM
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Sep 29 2016, 11:36 AM
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High Risk = High Return
Low Risk = Low Return (FD 2%) No Risk = No Return |
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Sep 29 2016, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Sep 29 2016, 11:30 AM) Yes, to join you need introducer. Jjptr accepts minimum investment of rm105 And maximum of rm4200. Registration can be approved within 2-4 days. Join only if you are willing to take some risk with yr unused money. Anyone of us here can help you to register if you r interested. Good Luck ! |
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QUOTE(censett123 @ Sep 27 2016, 02:05 PM) Funny, all the pipu that write good thing about jjptr are non active forum members with very few post I have 2 accounts maxed at RM4200.PS: I'm not saying I endorse it. The risk is yours to take should you decide to. Have fun! This post has been edited by C63 AMG: Sep 29 2016, 01:34 PM |
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Sep 29 2016, 01:36 PM
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Sep 29 2016, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Sep 29 2016, 12:53 PM) Yes, to join you need introducer. Jjptr accepts minimum investment of rm105 We just intro this investment plan to you all, at least now you know got such investment. And we all tried, really work. And maximum of rm4200. Registration can be approved within 2-4 days. Join only if you are willing to take some risk with yr unused money. Anyone of us here can help you to register if you r interested. Good Luck ! No harm to know new thing right. |
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Sep 29 2016, 01:42 PM
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where the money joined members goes? property franchise investment?
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Sep 29 2016, 01:54 PM
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My money is ready
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Sep 29 2016, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(PropertyNewB @ Sep 29 2016, 01:54 PM) For those not used to taking risk pls don't get involved. Better put yr money in Fixed deposit for one year. Join only if can take losses without blaming anyone. Losing a minimum investment of rm105 is like losing a Pair of new shoes. You won't go bankrupt. Nobody can force you to join. If you have the guts then go ahead. No Risk No Gain |
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Sep 29 2016, 04:51 PM
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Another Ponzi scheme, a long lost friend came to me and introducing me to this.
Doesn't really make sense that the investors in the field are required to pull in newbies and to invest together in order to make them earn more. |
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Sep 29 2016, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Sep 29 2016, 04:11 PM) For those not used to taking risk pls don't get involved. Better put yr money in Fixed deposit for one year. Have too much money duno where to put.. So losing it all also nvmJoin only if can take losses without blaming anyone. Losing a minimum investment of rm105 is like losing a Pair of new shoes. You won't go bankrupt. Nobody can force you to join. If you have the guts then go ahead. No Risk No Gain |
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QUOTE(PropertyNewB @ Sep 27 2016, 11:24 AM) yes u can. the only reason why we want to introduce because we gain 5% of your investment.not to worry, u don't pay me 5%, JJPTR pays me QUOTE(censett123 @ Sep 27 2016, 02:05 PM) Funny, all the pipu that write good thing about jjptr are non active forum members with very few post i am active |
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Sep 30 2016, 01:28 AM
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Sep 30 2016, 10:29 AM
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Its important to note that JJPTR just like FX United, Efzinitus, Venus FX, etc are all forex scams whos business model is solely based on a Ponzi pyramid scheme where funds from new investors are used to pay existing investors. Nothing else said is worth anything. There is no trading done at all. That's why its important to keep getting new investors in.
But ive invested KNOWING that its a scam. It's a risk for sure but its a risk im prepared to take. I pumped in RM16,800 into JJPTR since 3 July 2016. To date ive got back RM10,260. Not too bad I guess. Hope it lasts. |
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QUOTE(PropertyNewB @ Sep 30 2016, 01:28 AM) I don't care about FD.. Already maxed out ASB. Now just wanna dump into as many investment as possible if you are interested with jjptr, let me know. max per account u can dump is 4.2kQUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 30 2016, 10:29 AM) Its important to note that JJPTR just like FX United, Efzinitus, Venus FX, etc are all forex scams whos business model is solely based on a Ponzi pyramid scheme where funds from new investors are used to pay existing investors. Nothing else said is worth anything. There is no trading done at all. That's why its important to keep getting new investors in. lol 4 accounts. i had 3 max. planning to throw another 4.2k once i get back profitBut ive invested KNOWING that its a scam. It's a risk for sure but its a risk im prepared to take. I pumped in RM16,800 into JJPTR since 3 July 2016. To date ive got back RM10,260. Not too bad I guess. Hope it lasts. |
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Sep 30 2016, 12:23 PM
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Any introducer? Wanna test water with 2k
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Sep 30 2016, 01:45 PM
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Sep 30 2016, 06:18 PM
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Yes, the rate has gone up coz ringgit is weak against US dollars.
It was still 3.8/4.2 rate when I registered for 2 new investors 2 days ago. Jjptr will adjust rate every month based on market rate. Btw no registration will be accepted these 3 days as jjptr is busy paying 20% dividend to investors. Me too looking forward to my 4th 20% returns. Many here still think we are fools rushing in........ But we have done our homework. Cheers! |
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Sep 30 2016, 08:36 PM
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Use some gifted common sense.
20% monthly yes is possible. If consistent and commercially, he should have been sitting next to Warren Buffett Funds managed by Wall Street Professionals are only making average 25% return yearly. |
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Oct 1 2016, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Sep 30 2016, 06:18 PM) Yes, the rate has gone up coz ringgit is weak against US dollars. There is no homework to be done when ure investing in forex scams. Its all dependent on luck and your risk appetite. If ure lucky the scam lasts long enuf for u to recover your capital and also make a good return. if ure unlucky, the scam runs into trouble before ure able to recover your capital. It was still 3.8/4.2 rate when I registered for 2 new investors 2 days ago. Jjptr will adjust rate every month based on market rate. Btw no registration will be accepted these 3 days as jjptr is busy paying 20% dividend to investors. Me too looking forward to my 4th 20% returns. Many here still think we are fools rushing in........ But we have done our homework. Cheers! The success of a forex scam is 100% dependant on the number of new investors coming in. The moment the new investors are reduced, the scam falls apart and the top honchos close it down to escape. I really hope ure advising all your new recruits that this is a scam and there is a very real risk of losing their investments. That's wht I tell all my downlines. We have to be fair to them by telling them the truth and not mislead them into a false sense of security. |
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QUOTE(stevenlee1990 @ Sep 30 2016, 08:36 PM) Use some gifted common sense. The top performing fund in the world was DSP BlackRock Micro Cap Fund managed to provide a return of 275% from 2013-2016. That's an average of 91% per year only. The bulk of their earnings was made in 2013 and 2014 while 2015 onwards they started to drop because of the volatile stock market. 20% monthly yes is possible. If consistent and commercially, he should have been sitting next to Warren Buffett Funds managed by Wall Street Professionals are only making average 25% return yearly. In tandem, the forex market was badly hit last year and this year. Yes USD5 trillion is traded every day. It doesn't mean profit. It just means trades. Majority of forex traders even the best on Wall Street lost money especially in the first half of this year because of the massive drops in the USD and Euros. So if JJ or any forex scam out there claims that they can consistently provide between 132-240% consistent returns a year from forex trading, then you know that's 100% BULLSHIT. |
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Sep 30 2016, 06:18 PM) Yes, the rate has gone up coz ringgit is weak against US dollars. Yes, for me, i willing to loss the amount we invest. That is the correct mind to hv in every type of investment. I always tell who want to join, you need to understand every investment got risk, if you can cannot afford to loss money, don't join, don't take out the money. It was still 3.8/4.2 rate when I registered for 2 new investors 2 days ago. Jjptr will adjust rate every month based on market rate. Btw no registration will be accepted these 3 days as jjptr is busy paying 20% dividend to investors. Me too looking forward to my 4th 20% returns. Many here still think we are fools rushing in........ But we have done our homework. Cheers! Just treat it as you buy 4D or go Genting. Anyway, for those who decided to join, take action before USD increase again. |
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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Sep 30 2016, 01:45 PM) PM me. That means new investors need to pay RM4,300 for a max account. Existing investors get back RM780 per month instead of RM760.Today rate 4.3 / 3.9 USD Increased Correct? |
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Oct 1 2016, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 1 2016, 03:05 PM) That means new investors need to pay RM4,300 for a max account. Existing investors get back RM780 per month instead of RM760. Yes, now they need to pay x0.1 more.. Correct? Old rate 4.2 min 25usd - RM105 max 1000usd - RM4200 Now oct 16 New rate 4.3 min 25usd - RM107.5 max 1000usd - RM4300 |
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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Oct 1 2016, 03:07 PM) Yes, now they need to pay x0.1 more.. But existing investors like us will now get RM780 per month rite?Old rate 4.2 min 25usd - RM105 max 1000usd - RM4200 Now oct 16 New rate 4.3 min 25usd - RM107.5 max 1000usd - RM4300 |
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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Oct 1 2016, 03:03 PM) Yes, for me, i willing to loss the amount we invest. That is the correct mind to hv in every type of investment. I always tell who want to join, you need to understand every investment got risk, if you can cannot afford to loss money, don't join, don't take out the money. Yes, I too make sure all my friends understand the risk involved before registering for them. Just treat it as you buy 4D or go Genting. Anyway, for those who decided to join, take action before USD increase again. Most have been in this game before . One has been enjoying big returns from Investing in Mface which is still going strong after more than 3 or 4 years if I m not mistaken. What I meant When I said earlier ' I have done my homework' is I have calculated that it is still a good Risk to go in at this juncture. I may be wrong but is a calculated risk I m taking. Thus our advice for new comers is to join only if you understand the risk involved. Otherwise better off to put in Fixed Deposit. Yes, those who play horses, stock market, Genting and 4D should understand the risks involved. 😂😂😂 |
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Think we will still be paid RM760 as the payment is meant for Sept.
Hope I m wrong 😂😂😂 |
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Oct 1 2016, 05:42 PM
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It's just like genneva gold.. Just see how long it will last and hopefully capital recovered before anything happens.. That's why only dump in money that u can lose.. If u dump whole life saving and if really unlucky haven't recover already collapsed then too bad.
I myself know this is a scam but as long as I can recover it and earn some before it collapsed I am happy. |
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 1 2016, 05:42 PM) It's just like genneva gold.. Just see how long it will last and hopefully capital recovered before anything happens.. That's why only dump in money that u can lose.. If u dump whole life saving and if really unlucky haven't recover already collapsed then too bad. Ya!! Don't dump whole life saving!! Understand the risk!!I myself know this is a scam but as long as I can recover it and earn some before it collapsed I am happy. This post has been edited by idealhometech: Oct 1 2016, 06:19 PM |
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I am now buying my third car, you want to know how? Work hard and dont dream like a fool and invest into these nonsense.
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QUOTE(audio technica @ Oct 1 2016, 07:51 PM) I am now buying my third car, you want to know how? Work hard and dont dream like a fool and invest into these nonsense. U're buying a 3rd car and that's good investment? And no i don't want to know how to buy 3 or 10 cars. Doesn't mean anything to me. And what makes u think we don't work hard? This is a very small part of my total investment portfolio. |
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 1 2016, 05:42 PM) It's just like genneva gold.. Just see how long it will last and hopefully capital recovered before anything happens.. That's why only dump in money that u can lose.. If u dump whole life saving and if really unlucky haven't recover already collapsed then too bad. This is a very fxxxed up mentality. Please be magnanimous. Think great and dun have such loser mentality. If you think it is a scam, dun participate. If you think it is OK to participate and make some money and get out before it collapse, indirectly you are hoping for suckers to bail u out. This is a very selfish behaviour. If nobody participates in these schemes no matter how early, they cannot take off and there will be no victims. Do good to the society. At least dun encourage scumbags with their scams.I myself know this is a scam but as long as I can recover it and earn some before it collapsed I am happy. |
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Oct 2 2016, 05:15 AM
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Oct 1 2016, 11:48 PM) This is a very fxxxed up mentality. Please be magnanimous. Think great and dun have such loser mentality. If you think it is a scam, dun participate. If you think it is OK to participate and make some money and get out before it collapse, indirectly you are hoping for suckers to bail u out. This is a very selfish behaviour. If nobody participates in these schemes no matter how early, they cannot take off and there will be no victims. Do good to the society. At least dun encourage scumbags with their scams. The loser here is u, I didn't encourage anyone to join as I know what I'm getting into. Too bad there's always greed in people and as long I'm not harming anyone or scamming anyone why should I care? |
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 2 2016, 05:15 AM) The loser here is u, I didn't encourage anyone to join as I know what I'm getting into. Too bad there's always greed in people and as long I'm not harming anyone or scamming anyone why should I care? By participating, you have the intention to profit at the expense of others. Whether you actively participate or not is not as important as your motive. If nobody joins after you join, you will lose your money. Your intention is for more people to join after you, and quick, because you need the greater fool to come in. Don't kid yourself by saying you are not scamming others. The act of participation is scamming. |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 1 2016, 11:10 PM) U're buying a 3rd car and that's good investment? lol....im just making a mockery of the common marketing tools u guys used....yea working hard dreaming....good luckAnd no i don't want to know how to buy 3 or 10 cars. Doesn't mean anything to me. And what makes u think we don't work hard? This is a very small part of my total investment portfolio. |
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Oct 2 2016, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Oct 2 2016, 09:01 AM) By participating, you have the intention to profit at the expense of others. Whether you actively participate or not is not as important as your motive. If nobody joins after you join, you will lose your money. Your intention is for more people to join after you, and quick, because you need the greater fool to come in. Don't kid yourself by saying you are not scamming others. The act of participation is scamming. haha u fool, no one is joining under me so technically im scamming no one. its like saying if someone comes to my house and suicide i'll be charged as a killer. others greed is not my problem. "The act of participation is scamming." how about going back to school? |
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 2 2016, 02:38 PM) haha u fool, no one is joining under me so technically im scamming no one. Say u play a game. You r the first person to go through this door and you can collect 10k after you go through. You know the 10th person that pass through will get his head chopped off. So now, u are telling me it is not your problem that they get their head chopped off because you are smart enough to be the first one to go through? If there is no 1st to 9th person going through the door, will there be a 10th person who is the victim? Yes, you are indirectly a scammer.its like saying if someone comes to my house and suicide i'll be charged as a killer. others greed is not my problem. "The act of participation is scamming." how about going back to school? |
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 2 2016, 02:38 PM) haha u fool, no one is joining under me so technically im scamming no one. Actually what he said is true. The fact that we participated and are now here encouraging others to participate (albeit knowing the risks) means that we too are part of the intention to scam others.its like saying if someone comes to my house and suicide i'll be charged as a killer. others greed is not my problem. "The act of participation is scamming." how about going back to school? |
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Oct 2 2016, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Oct 2 2016, 04:25 PM) Say u play a game. You r the first person to go through this door and you can collect 10k after you go through. You know the 10th person that pass through will get his head chopped off. So now, u are telling me it is not your problem that they get their head chopped off because you are smart enough to be the first one to go through? If there is no 1st to 9th person going through the door, will there be a 10th person who is the victim? Yes, you are indirectly a scammer. god, how can u be that dumb. did i tell the other person there was 10k to be won? no right? what makes me a scammer? are u really that dumb or what?so whats the different with playing shares? someone wins and someone loses. so the one wins makes him a scammer right? since someone lost and he gained. please la go learn up the word scam for fuk sake. QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 2 2016, 04:50 PM) Actually what he said is true. The fact that we participated and are now here encouraging others to participate (albeit knowing the risks) means that we too are part of the intention to scam others. lol sry I didnt encourage anyone to join as I know what im getting into and would not want to get blamed if anything goes wrong.im just investing my own and not telling anybody else. like I said, their greed is not my problem. |
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usually what day of the month ROI will bank in?
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Oct 3 2016, 06:27 AM) usually what day of the month ROI will bank in? Distribution is on 3 separate dates depending on when u register 10th, 20th and 30th. And so far since I joined in early July, they have been very prompt with the payments. Quite efficient so far. |
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Oct 3 2016, 04:33 PM) No, not on Nov10. If you join now the 20% will be banked into your account after Nov 10 ( between 11-15th) Btw if you r new to this investment pls start small and be aware of the risk involved. Pm anyone of us if need more info. Guys, I have just received my 20% for US$1000 deposit . Is still the same as previous month. Rm760 for US$1000 deposit. Maybe rm780 will be paid after Oct 10. |
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Oct 3 2016, 06:08 PM) No, not on Nov10. If you join now the 20% will be banked into your account after Nov 10 ( between 11-15th) don't really think I have the guts to throw more than a few hundred. Btw if you r new to this investment pls start small and be aware of the risk involved. Pm anyone of us if need more info. Guys, I have just received my 20% for US$1000 deposit . Is still the same as previous month. Rm760 for US$1000 deposit. Maybe rm780 will be paid after Oct 10. the 18% every month is very attractive though, meanwhile my friend who put in 10k into CIMB FD only got about 500-ish back after a year. Basically for now if I were to... dump in 500 (FOR EXAMPLE) i'll just have to pray hard hard that it will pay on time for the next 6 months at least to cover back my capital and then faster take out the 500 bucks I put in? |
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 1 2016, 05:42 PM) It's just like genneva gold.. Just see how long it will last and hopefully capital recovered before anything happens.. That's why only dump in money that u can lose.. If u dump whole life saving and if really unlucky haven't recover already collapsed then too bad. Think you are adopting the right approach 👍👍👍. I myself know this is a scam but as long as I can recover it and earn some before it collapsed I am happy. Good luck to you and hope Genneva and Jjptr can last as long as MFace. |
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Oct 3 2016, 06:17 PM) don't really think I have the guts to throw more than a few hundred. the 18% every month is very attractive though, meanwhile my friend who put in 10k into CIMB FD only got about 500-ish back after a year. Basically for now if I were to... dump in 500 (FOR EXAMPLE) i'll just have to pray hard hard that it will pay on time for the next 6 months at least to cover back my capital and then faster take out the 500 bucks I put in? Yes, play small and don't be greedy. If you feel rm10K in fixed deposit is too slow then switch a small amount to jjptr. Put 90% in fixed and 10% in jjptr. Good luck. |
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Oct 3 2016, 06:29 PM) Yes, play small and don't be greedy. Sorry, rm1000 may still be big for some people. If you feel rm10K in fixed deposit is too slow then switch a small amount to jjptr. Put 90% in fixed and 10% in jjptr. Good luck. The smallest or the minimum amount for joining is US$25 or rm107.50. |
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Oct 3 2016, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Oct 3 2016, 06:17 PM) don't really think I have the guts to throw more than a few hundred. if u have such feelings like pray hard hard u can recover back ur money i suggest u dont invest in JJPTR.the 18% every month is very attractive though, meanwhile my friend who put in 10k into CIMB FD only got about 500-ish back after a year. Basically for now if I were to... dump in 500 (FOR EXAMPLE) i'll just have to pray hard hard that it will pay on time for the next 6 months at least to cover back my capital and then faster take out the 500 bucks I put in? only dump in money u can afford to lose example if u throw in 500 today and its gone the next day how would u feel? if u feel super moody,sad etc etc then better keep in FD. to me investing is like waiting to hit the jackpot having my risk distributed among low/medium/high risk return for example low risk, I invest in ASB.. steady return around 7% high risk would be like jjptr,shares,forex,crypto currency. who knows it might blow up to few thousand % in future? |
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 3 2016, 09:13 PM) if u have such feelings like pray hard hard u can recover back ur money i suggest u dont invest in JJPTR. i wish i could invest in ASB... only dump in money u can afford to lose example if u throw in 500 today and its gone the next day how would u feel? if u feel super moody,sad etc etc then better keep in FD. to me investing is like waiting to hit the jackpot having my risk distributed among low/medium/high risk return for example low risk, I invest in ASB.. steady return around 7% high risk would be like jjptr,shares,forex,crypto currency. who knows it might blow up to few thousand % in future? |
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Oct 3 2016, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Oct 3 2016, 06:17 PM) don't really think I have the guts to throw more than a few hundred. Is that RM500 or USD500?the 18% every month is very attractive though, meanwhile my friend who put in 10k into CIMB FD only got about 500-ish back after a year. Basically for now if I were to... dump in 500 (FOR EXAMPLE) i'll just have to pray hard hard that it will pay on time for the next 6 months at least to cover back my capital and then faster take out the 500 bucks I put in? U need to keep a few things in mind. Firstly, your budget. Never invest something ure not prepared to lose. Secondly, these are scams which wont last long so go in as big as u can (calculate all risks), make your money and then get out. Thirdly, investing too small is worthless if u ask me. After 6 months, u just 'double up'. |
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 3 2016, 09:13 PM) if u have such feelings like pray hard hard u can recover back ur money i suggest u dont invest in JJPTR. Same philosophy here. ASB already maxed out, properties 'maxed out' also. So time to take on more riskier ventures. only dump in money u can afford to lose example if u throw in 500 today and its gone the next day how would u feel? if u feel super moody,sad etc etc then better keep in FD. to me investing is like waiting to hit the jackpot having my risk distributed among low/medium/high risk return for example low risk, I invest in ASB.. steady return around 7% high risk would be like jjptr,shares,forex,crypto currency. who knows it might blow up to few thousand % in future? |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 3 2016, 10:39 PM) Same philosophy here. ASB already maxed out, properties 'maxed out' also. So time to take on more riskier ventures. since I'm not in my 30's yet with no family and risk tolerance is still high better diversify into as many investment as possible.This post has been edited by Davez89: Oct 4 2016, 09:14 AM |
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or Maximum 1000USD --> RM4300 If can afford, then join, if can't afford, don't join. So simple right. :-D Don't forget, u can anytime cash out the capital, by paying service charge 1%. U join this month, next month get the bonus, cash out the capital, no problem. This post has been edited by idealhometech: Oct 4 2016, 02:46 PM |
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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Oct 4 2016, 02:26 PM) Minimum 25USD --> RM107.5 ur rate so nice or Maximum 1000USD --> RM3400 If can afford, then join, if can't afford, don't join. So simple right. :-D Don't forget, u can anytime cash out the capital, by paying service charge 1%. U join this month, next month get the bonus, cash out the capital, no problem. |
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Is it true that some JJ investors have delayed payments?
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Now "investmemt " plan is getting very creative. Is this thing even legal? . Or admin just close 1 eye after been fed. Heard my fren who invest 1k usd will earn bk his capital in 2months time and his fren who joined 2yrs ago getting constant 1.2k return every month with just 2k capital. Dono how true is this
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QUOTE(bamkai @ Oct 5 2016, 11:06 PM) Now "investmemt " plan is getting very creative. Is this thing even legal? . Or admin just close 1 eye after been fed. Heard my fren who invest 1k usd will earn bk his capital in 2months time and his fren who joined 2yrs ago getting constant 1.2k return every month with just 2k capital. Dono how true is this Higher the return, higher the risk... So think carefully lo.. C whether u can cope or not. |
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QUOTE(bamkai @ Oct 5 2016, 11:06 PM) Now "investmemt " plan is getting very creative. Is this thing even legal? . Or admin just close 1 eye after been fed. Heard my fren who invest 1k usd will earn bk his capital in 2months time and his fren who joined 2yrs ago getting constant 1.2k return every month with just 2k capital. Dono how true is this Any 'investment' plan which offers higher returns than Amanah Saham Bumiputera with little / no additional risk is always a SCAM. What admin are you referring to anyway? Which scheme are you talking about? JJPTR? Your friends are not just earning with their own money/investments. The reason why they can get high returns is also because they have a number of downlines. |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 6 2016, 08:59 AM) Any 'investment' plan which offers higher returns than Amanah Saham Bumiputera with little / no additional risk is always a SCAM. refering to the authority - BNMWhat admin are you referring to anyway? Which scheme are you talking about? JJPTR? Your friends are not just earning with their own money/investments. The reason why they can get high returns is also because they have a number of downlines. |
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QUOTE(bamkai @ Oct 6 2016, 10:04 AM) refering to the authority - BNM There are about 10,000 different illegal Ponzi schemes ongoing in Malaysia alone now. Its just too much for BNM to take action fast. But sooner or later they will and that's when the scheme will collapse. |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 6 2016, 10:55 AM) There are about 10,000 different illegal Ponzi schemes ongoing in Malaysia alone now. Its just too much for BNM to take action fast. But sooner or later they will and that's when the scheme will collapse. There have been growing calls for the government to have greater control of non-regulated investment activities. However, one issue seems to be the jurisdiction the alternative investment falls under.When contacted, Bank Negara Malaysia said these alternative schemes are not under its purview. The Securities Commission only regulates capital market instruments.Public are advised to be cautious of the risk associated with these alternative investment. |
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Oct 6 2016, 12:49 PM) There have been growing calls for the government to have greater control of non-regulated investment activities. However, one issue seems to be the jurisdiction the alternative investment falls under. When it comes to forex schemes, there are 2 differentiators:When contacted, Bank Negara Malaysia said these alternative schemes are not under its purview. The Securities Commission only regulates capital market instruments.Public are advised to be cautious of the risk associated with these alternative investment. 1) If forex trading is being done but minus a official licence, it falls under BNM 2) If forex trading is just a front to mask the Ponzi (member get member) scheme at the back, it falls under PDRM Commercial Crimes Either way both are illegal and both will be acted upon by either BNM or PDRM. |
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QUOTE(glamour @ Sep 15 2016, 01:15 PM) Yeah. Weekly 4300...... If not active become 2150 per week.. You gonna take the bonus 2150 until the company close .... If you active. You back to 4300 weekly. Wanna join under me? PM I got few board to play. Info and update also fast. So far never lose yet playing all this. Their system just upgrade for PTM4U. |
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Just some information to shared with you.
I saw this from a FB page which expose and educate people about the ponzi schemes and scams in Malaysia. https://www.facebook.com/JusticeAlwaysLate2/https://www.facebook.com/JusticeAlwaysLate2/ Look for the post on 31st Aug. Its in Chinese so sorry to those who does not understand. First of all do not blindly believe whatever the page said. It is also possible he has his own agenda. But I am sharing this info because of a particular interesting story. ----- In order to convince its investor, JJPTR allow investor login to its MT4 "Real trade" account in weekend to see the profit with their own eyes. Forex market DO NOT open in the weekend so all you see there is only the trade results. An anonymous source provider login to JJPTR's real trading account in the weekend. He left the MT4 terminal stayed login throughout the weekend then on Monday, SURPRISE! JJPTR's staff didn't saw this guy still login to the real trading account and they started they EA on a fine Monday morning as usual. Check this real time trading activity as recorded on their MT4 account: at 2:18, all the floating losses trades were DELETED using the MT4 administrator account. How does that happened? There were about 800k USD of loses, and take close look at the balance. When all the losing trades disappeared, the balance is UNCHANGED!! That means those loses trades are gone into thin air, which is impossible in ANY legit trading account. Then follow the video to see the account history, NO SIGN of those losing trades. For a combine of more than 800K loses, it SURE will appear in the activity history and also cause the account balance to reduce. There are one particular position which is >700 lot in one trade. This did not shown in the account history as stated as well. For a trade that BIG in size, its hard to overlook it. Where did it went? Deleted of course. Why none of that happened? Because those losing trades were simply deleted as if they didn't exist. This can only be done when the company DID NOT even put the trades into the REAL MARKET. so the whole thing that JJ claimed where their main source of income is fake. If JJPTR wants to rebuke this, they are by all mean welcome to let people watch them trade LIVE. This post has been edited by limyeeshin: Oct 6 2016, 04:04 PM |
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QUOTE(limyeeshin @ Oct 6 2016, 04:02 PM) Just some information to shared with you. 100% correct. All illegal forex schemes who promise high returns do this. Its called SIMULATION. FX United, Efzinitus, etc especially. NO real trading takes place. Its all bullshit. The only thing that sustains the scheme are NEW MEMBERSHIP. Without that, everything collapses.I saw this from a FB page which expose and educate people about the ponzi schemes and scams in Malaysia. https://www.facebook.com/JusticeAlwaysLate2/https://www.facebook.com/JusticeAlwaysLate2/ Look for the post on 31st Aug. Its in Chinese so sorry to those who does not understand. First of all do not blindly believe whatever the page said. It is also possible he has his own agenda. But I am sharing this info because of a particular interesting story. ----- In order to convince its investor, JJPTR allow investor login to its MT4 "Real trade" account in weekend to see the profit with their own eyes. Forex market DO NOT open in the weekend so all you see there is only the trade results. An anonymous source provider login to JJPTR's real trading account in the weekend. He left the MT4 terminal stayed login throughout the weekend then on Monday, SURPRISE! JJPTR's staff didn't saw this guy still login to the real trading account and they started they EA on a fine Monday morning as usual. Check this real time trading activity as recorded on their MT4 account: at 2:18, all the floating losses trades were DELETED using the MT4 administrator account. How does that happened? There were about 800k USD of loses, and take close look at the balance. When all the losing trades disappeared, the balance is UNCHANGED!! That means those loses trades are gone into thin air, which is impossible in ANY legit trading account. Then follow the video to see the account history, NO SIGN of those losing trades. For a combine of more than 800K loses, it SURE will appear in the activity history and also cause the account balance to reduce. There are one particular position which is >700 lot in one trade. This did not shown in the account history as stated as well. For a trade that BIG in size, its hard to overlook it. Where did it went? Deleted of course. Why none of that happened? Because those losing trades were simply deleted as if they didn't exist. This can only be done when the company DID NOT even put the trades into the REAL MARKET. so the whole thing that JJ claimed where their main source of income is fake. If JJPTR wants to rebuke this, they are by all mean welcome to let people watch them trade LIVE. This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 7 2016, 12:08 AM |
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QUOTE(limyeeshin @ Oct 6 2016, 04:02 PM) Just some information to shared with you. You are just wasting yr time exposing their trading activities . What you show us here is just a good example I saw this from a FB page which expose and educate people about the ponzi schemes and scams in Malaysia. https://www.facebook.com/JusticeAlwaysLate2/https://www.facebook.com/JusticeAlwaysLate2/ Look for the post on 31st Aug. Its in Chinese so sorry to those who does not understand. First of all do not blindly believe whatever the page said. It is also possible he has his own agenda. But I am sharing this info because of a particular interesting story. ----- In order to convince its investor, JJPTR allow investor login to its MT4 "Real trade" account in weekend to see the profit with their own eyes. Forex market DO NOT open in the weekend so all you see there is only the trade results. An anonymous source provider login to JJPTR's real trading account in the weekend. He left the MT4 terminal stayed login throughout the weekend then on Monday, SURPRISE! JJPTR's staff didn't saw this guy still login to the real trading account and they started they EA on a fine Monday morning as usual. Check this real time trading activity as recorded on their MT4 account: at 2:18, all the floating losses trades were DELETED using the MT4 administrator account. How does that happened? There were about 800k USD of loses, and take close look at the balance. When all the losing trades disappeared, the balance is UNCHANGED!! That means those loses trades are gone into thin air, which is impossible in ANY legit trading account. Then follow the video to see the account history, NO SIGN of those losing trades. For a combine of more than 800K loses, it SURE will appear in the activity history and also cause the account balance to reduce. There are one particular position which is >700 lot in one trade. This did not shown in the account history as stated as well. For a trade that BIG in size, its hard to overlook it. Where did it went? Deleted of course. Why none of that happened? Because those losing trades were simply deleted as if they didn't exist. This can only be done when the company DID NOT even put the trades into the REAL MARKET. so the whole thing that JJ claimed where their main source of income is fake. If JJPTR wants to rebuke this, they are by all mean welcome to let people watch them trade LIVE. of paper trading . Win or lose here is not going to affect jjptr. Is not going to cause jjptr to fold up even if they incur loses for several weeks. You must be new to this form of investment. |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 30 2016, 10:29 AM) Its important to note that JJPTR just like FX United, Efzinitus, Venus FX, etc are all forex scams whos business model is solely based on a Ponzi pyramid scheme where funds from new investors are used to pay existing investors. Nothing else said is worth anything. There is no trading done at all. That's why its important to keep getting new investors in. FOOLS ARE BORN EVERYDAY ... every minute ....But ive invested KNOWING that its a scam. It's a risk for sure but its a risk im prepared to take. I pumped in RM16,800 into JJPTR since 3 July 2016. To date ive got back RM10,260. Not too bad I guess. Hope it lasts. |
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Oct 7 2016, 12:50 AM) You are just wasting yr time exposing their trading activities . What you show us here is just a good example He is merely trying to prove that there is no forex trading being done by JJPTR contrary to what they claim. While most of us here know that JJPTR is a scam, there are many unscrupulous agents who go around telling lies that JJPTR actually does forex trades. His post above gives potential investors the proof they need to counter that. After that it becomes their risk if they want to invest in something that's illegal and based on a Ponzi scheme.of paper trading . Win or lose here is not going to affect jjptr. Is not going to cause jjptr to fold up even if they incur loses for several weeks. You must be new to this form of investment. |
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Soon we may be hearing a Ponzi scheme for the super rich and powerful in Malaysia?
Jjptr is just a very small One when compared to this Giant Ponzi scheme about to be Revealed. 😤😤😤 The Swiss Attorney-General Office (OAG) said investigations revealed that substantial amounts of money were allegedly misappropriated from former 1MDB subsidiary SRC International and that fraud was committed based on a form of “Ponzi” scheme to cover it up. Possible US$800million involved if not mistaken. |
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QUOTE(Hnnnnggg @ Oct 9 2016, 02:29 AM) cant believe still have folks believe these shit... if money can come so easy... better all quit your job just invest on these. U don't have to believe in order to invest. Most of us know that. |
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QUOTE(Hnnnnggg @ Oct 9 2016, 02:29 AM) cant believe still have folks believe these shit... if money can come so easy... better all quit your job just invest on these. Yes, for some smart investors money comes easy but why should they quit their jobs. After all they are getting high returns without doing anything. Just like putting money in fixed deposit. A friend of mine is getting more than rm10k a month from investing in Mface and he is not quitting. No reason for him to quit but to enjoy his extra bonus with his family every month. Not everyone has the guts to get involved in high risk scheme so just wish them Good Luck After all is their money, 😂😂😂 |
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Oct 9 2016, 03:07 PM) Yes, for some smart investors money comes easy but why should they quit their jobs. Whats Mface?After all they are getting high returns without doing anything. Just like putting money in fixed deposit. A friend of mine is getting more than rm10k a month from investing in Mface and he is not quitting. No reason for him to quit but to enjoy his extra bonus with his family every month. Not everyone has the guts to get involved in high risk scheme so just wish them Good Luck After all is their money, 😂😂😂 |
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Mface = MBI
business module E-share. 6 years operation still healthy never die yet. |
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QUOTE(Imleonardlim @ Oct 10 2016, 02:21 PM) Mface = MBI When it comes to scams, past performance is NEVER a yardstick for future success. In fact its the other way around. If a scam has been in operation for some time, that means the end is near.business module E-share. 6 years operation still healthy never die yet. |
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I agree Its called MG (money game) instead of scam.
people who involve in MG. He / She is clearly know it will burst and cabut one day. But people still analysis on their business module and operation of years. Just like ah po ah gung 供会。 The alpha can be runaway anytime. But they are still involve into it even now. It is still actively in some places. scammer is cheat ur money and runaway no need create so many 67 story line to operate the business. No need to do so many 67 event to attract more business. Yes, one day MG will burst. The theory is new member fund cover old member profit. But some MG last to 10 years example 南宁。 people who join as pioneer is making money. Well. I am not to convince u for anything. Just to share with u the other world story. |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 10 2016, 02:44 PM) When it comes to scams, past performance is NEVER a yardstick for future success. In fact its the other way around. If a scam has been in operation for some time, that means the end is near. Hahaha, most who joined Mface are laughing all the way to the banks.When it first surfaced many predicted it would not last more than one year. When it survived the first year many were surprised . Some then said the longest a scam can last is usually 2 years. Yes, many also said 'the end is near only fools rush in' Well Mface seems to have a long life and proves many skeptics wrong. More than 5 Years in operation and still paying high bonus punctually. My friend who joined Mface 3 years ago has already got back his capital and is now happily receiving rm9000 a month doing nothing. Many are still saying the End is near. Wonder Just how long can Mface last? 😇😇😇 |
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Wow hope jjptr can last too! Let's earn money together!
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QUOTE(Hnnnnggg @ Oct 9 2016, 02:29 AM) cant believe still have folks believe these shit... if money can come so easy... better all quit your job just invest on these. I did receive the 20% money from JJPTR last month, so it is not entirely scam. The thing is how long this JJPTR will last. I wouldn't mind to invest 1k in this and taking that 6 months risk to get back my capital. Worst case scenario, I got nothing in return. Best case scenario, I get back my capital and 20% free for every coming month. So its up to people whether they dare to take the risk to join or not. |
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QUOTE(brianw87 @ Oct 10 2016, 09:10 PM) I did receive the 20% money from JJPTR last month, so it is not entirely scam. The thing is how long this JJPTR will last. I wouldn't mind to invest 1k in this and taking that 6 months risk to get back my capital. Worst case scenario, I got nothing in return. Best case scenario, I get back my capital and 20% free for every coming month. So its up to people whether they dare to take the risk to join or not. U got it back? Congrats! I heard will be around 2018 that it will last. Hopefully we get our capital then we are consider safe! |
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QUOTE(brianw87 @ Oct 10 2016, 09:10 PM) I did receive the 20% money from JJPTR last month, so it is not entirely scam. The thing is how long this JJPTR will last. I wouldn't mind to invest 1k in this and taking that 6 months risk to get back my capital. Worst case scenario, I got nothing in return. Best case scenario, I get back my capital and 20% free for every coming month. So its up to people whether they dare to take the risk to join or not. Bro u can't be that naïve can u? Do u know what is a Ponzi / Pyramid scheme ah? Why don't you read up and educate yourself before you get burnt. Getting paid doesn't mean that its not a scam la. JJPTR is paying you using the money from new investors. Typical pyramid scheme. New investors are needed to pay off existing investors. Thats why they offer you a 5% monthly interest for bringing in new investors. Please don't fool yourself and others by thinking JJPTR is NOT a scam. Its 100% a scam just like FX United, Efzinitus, Venus FX, etc. And don't forget that most scams offering >15% interest don't last more than 1-2 yrs. So only invest what you are prepared to lose and never top up your investments. That's how you get burnt. This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 11 2016, 09:49 AM |
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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Oct 11 2016, 10:15 AM) Hi Ideal, are you confirming that Jjptr has already paid you rm780 instead of rm760 for your USD1000?I haven't checked my bank account yet . End of Sept my 20% payment was still rm760. I hope To receive rm780 within this 2 days. Pls confirm .😂😂😂 And to those who wish to join jjptr pls make sure you know the risk is high and also make sure you can Afford to lose yr money in case the company close down . Is a high risk high gain scheme meant for high risk takers. Good Luck guys! |
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Oct 11 2016, 11:22 AM) Hi Ideal, are you confirming that Jjptr has already paid you rm780 instead of rm760 for your USD1000? Yes the RM780 is confirmed. Has been paid.I haven't checked my bank account yet . End of Sept my 20% payment was still rm760. I hope To receive rm780 within this 2 days. Pls confirm .😂😂😂 And to those who wish to join jjptr pls make sure you know the risk is high and also make sure you can Afford to lose yr money in case the company close down . Is a high risk high gain scheme meant for high risk takers. Good Luck guys! And yes don't invest anything that ure not prepared to lose. This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 11 2016, 11:32 AM |
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Oct 11 2016, 11:38 AM
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i am a investor since march this year. every month gets my money from JJPTR and i even got my capital back and get more & more profits every month.
when you engaging in such money games then be sure that you are able to accept you will lose the game some time in the future. i got my pay yesterday, and i got my own "interest accumulation" without touch my own money anymore (more profits) and i can even use it for my mortgage loan. so, if you know how to play your game right then you can win (or let's say you not losing so easily) no pain no gain, low risk low gain wanna play safe? dont think to get rich! just go ask those people who manage to get rich from moderate / poor background and you will know how much risk they are taken. CHEERS! |
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I invested RM16,800 starting 3 July 2016. Up to today, ive received RM12,980. Another 23% to 'recover' my capital.
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If this is not a scam.. Bank already close long time already. Everyone will go pinjam ah long and invest yet still untung
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 11 2016, 12:43 PM) If this is not a scam.. Bank already close long time already. Everyone will go pinjam ah long and invest yet still untung If this wasn't a scam, even the banks would be investing in this. 240% interest per annum is better than even property investment! This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 11 2016, 01:30 PM |
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Oct 11 2016, 03:04 PM
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I joined at 2015 , now i already return my modal...
just believe JJPTR, other i dont believe anymore.. i lost on many money game, now just play one and only JJPTR. anyone interest can wechat me: honeyladybird-6837 for futher more details .. i am registered member... dun worry |
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QUOTE(VenusLover @ Oct 11 2016, 03:04 PM) I joined at 2015 , now i already return my modal... JJPTR will also go down eventually. The only question is how soon. But they are growing too fast now. Everybody seems to be talking about JJPTR. That's my worry. When a money game scam grows too fast in a short period, it's a sign that the end is near.just believe JJPTR, other i dont believe anymore.. i lost on many money game, now just play one and only JJPTR. anyone interest can wechat me: honeyladybird-6837 for futher more details .. i am registered member... dun worry |
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Oct 11 2016, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 11 2016, 03:20 PM) JJPTR will also go down eventually. The only question is how soon. But they are growing too fast now. Everybody seems to be talking about JJPTR. That's my worry. When a money game scam grows too fast in a short period, it's a sign that the end is near. if they dont expand to other countries as fast as they grow then its game over |
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Oct 11 2016, 11:22 AM) Hi Ideal, are you confirming that Jjptr has already paid you rm780 instead of rm760 for your USD1000? Yes, confirmed.I haven't checked my bank account yet . End of Sept my 20% payment was still rm760. I hope To receive rm780 within this 2 days. Pls confirm .😂😂😂 And to those who wish to join jjptr pls make sure you know the risk is high and also make sure you can Afford to lose yr money in case the company close down . Is a high risk high gain scheme meant for high risk takers. Good Luck guys! |
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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Oct 11 2016, 08:38 PM) Thx Ideal and Cyber for the confirmation. That means from Oct 11 all will receive Rm780 for their USD 1000 deposit. Hey Venus, nice to hear you got back your capital already. Some of us will be joining you soon. Hey Davez, we all already know that Jjptr needs to expand to be successful. We all are high risk takers otherwise better to play safe and put money in the banks. Not sure whether you are new to this game.But For those who are not used to playing high risk game is advisable not to get involved. Don't Worry, be Happy! |
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Oct 11 2016, 10:00 PM) Thx Ideal and Cyber for the confirmation. That means from Oct 11 all will receive Rm780 for their USD 1000 deposit. Yes, always remember, this is high risk investment/game !!! Only for HIGH RISK taker.Hey Venus, nice to hear you got back your capital already. Some of us will be joining you soon. Hey Davez, we all already know that Jjptr needs to expand to be successful. We all are high risk takers otherwise better to play safe and put money in the banks. Not sure whether you are new to this game.But For those who are not used to playing high risk game is advisable not to get involved. Don't Worry, be Happy! |
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Seems like already place under ponzi scheme
Source: http://video.genfb.com/13877890145693 Early birds safe, new birds gg |
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Just invested 1000USD
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Oct 13 2016, 03:06 AM
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its a ponzi scheme la, all money games are like dat, the 20% u get is basically from the new players who joins in, so as long as got new players join, the old players will always get his/her 20% profit n when thrs no new players join in,then the game ends n the final batch of players will all lose their money, its just a matter of who is unlucky enough to b the final batch of players |
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QUOTE(andrealiew @ Oct 13 2016, 03:06 AM) its a ponzi scheme la, all money games are like dat, the 20% u get is basically from the new players who joins in, so as long as got new players join, the old players will always get his/her 20% profit Yup we know that. Been stated many times in earlier posts.n when thrs no new players join in,then the game ends n the final batch of players will all lose their money, its just a matter of who is unlucky enough to b the final batch of players |
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Oct 13 2016, 12:39 AM) Welcome Panguin to the high risk club. Tot you already calculated the risk involved and decidedto join. Why now praying and sweating 😂😂😂. Did you over invest? Just joking fren. Hope soon you will be getting your first 20% of rm780? We too looking forward to it every month A few brave ones who put in Usd4000 will be getting @ Usd 3100 per month. Good luck !!! |
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Oct 13 2016, 02:21 PM) Welcome Panguin to the high risk club. Tot you already calculated the risk involved and decided The main reason why Im concerning is I was late to the game.to join. Why now praying and sweating 😂😂😂. Did you over invest? Just joking fren. Hope soon you will be getting your first 20% of rm780? We too looking forward to it every month A few brave ones who put in Usd4000 will be getting @ Usd 3100 per month. Good luck !!! It has established for 1.5 years though. And I knew the golden rule for every MG- the longer the company's life span, the higher the risk will be. And they claimed they're using Forex to earn big bucks, but to my surprise I couldnt find any 'things' to proof it yet. Welp I do hope they can survive like those Mcoins until 6,7 years and still going on. God please answer my prayers This post has been edited by SmallPenguin: Oct 13 2016, 03:50 PM |
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Oct 13 2016, 03:33 PM) The main reason why Im concerning is I was late to the game. U invest in something illegal and u dare ask God to answer yor prayer? No shame ah u?! It has established for 1.5 years though. And I knew the golden rule for every MG- the longer the company's life span, the higher the risk will be. And they claimed they're using Forex to earn big bucks, but to my surprise I couldnt find any 'things' to proof it yet. Welp I do hope they can survive like those Mcoins until 6,7 years and still going on. God please answer my prayers |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 13 2016, 05:15 PM) I have no shame Im just... hoping that this MG can keep rolling for years and years Dont you hope that too? It wont make me rich of course, but at least I can earn some spare cash which is pretty neat! |
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Oct 13 2016, 05:33 PM) I have no shame JJ wont last more than 12 months more. Ill be happy if it can last at least another 6 months.Im just... hoping that this MG can keep rolling for years and years Dont you hope that too? It wont make me rich of course, but at least I can earn some spare cash which is pretty neat! |
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Oct 13 2016, 05:46 PM) But why did you say so? ExperienceDoes that mean Im the 'last batch' already? Well I dont hope my first MG end up like this |
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Oct 13 2016, 06:29 PM) Pretty sure IllQUOTE(PrincZe @ Oct 13 2016, 06:30 PM) Im curious how you guys predict when will the company close up |
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Oct 13 2016, 10:30 PM
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Is there any other new forex schemes?
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Want to Ask
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QUOTE(zester @ Oct 14 2016, 04:07 PM) Want to Ask No.Some of you guys mention you have multiple accounts? Is possible with all accounts link to the same name & bank account? |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 11 2016, 09:48 AM) Bro u can't be that naïve can u? Do u know what is a Ponzi / Pyramid scheme ah? Why don't you read up and educate yourself before you get burnt. Getting paid doesn't mean that its not a scam la. What's the matter with you? Can't you read from my post that there is risk involved and money invested have to be afford to lose as I know company will collapse one day? I only invested 1k usd while you invested 4 x of my amount yet you asked me to be careful and not to get burnt? lolJJPTR is paying you using the money from new investors. Typical pyramid scheme. New investors are needed to pay off existing investors. Thats why they offer you a 5% monthly interest for bringing in new investors. Please don't fool yourself and others by thinking JJPTR is NOT a scam. Its 100% a scam just like FX United, Efzinitus, Venus FX, etc. And don't forget that most scams offering >15% interest don't last more than 1-2 yrs. So only invest what you are prepared to lose and never top up your investments. That's how you get burnt. |
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QUOTE(brianw87 @ Oct 17 2016, 04:39 PM) What's the matter with you? Can't you read from my post that there is risk involved and money invested have to be afford to lose as I know company will collapse one day? I only invested 1k usd while you invested 4 x of my amount yet you asked me to be careful and not to get burnt? lol Nobody is talking about risk or how much whoever invested.My post was in response to your earlier comment: I did receive the 20% money from JJPTR last month, so it is not entirely scam I was correcting your presumption that JJPTR is not entirely a scam. It is 100% a scam. And mind you I may have invested 4X your amount in JJPTR but that is an amount which I am prepared to lose and can afford to lose. I invested RM141,500 in FX United which is also a scam. So my investment in JJPTR is considered very small. |
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Oct 17 2016, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 17 2016, 06:18 PM) Nobody is talking about risk or how much whoever invested. got back capital for FXUnited already? still havent collapse right?My post was in response to your earlier comment: I did receive the 20% money from JJPTR last month, so it is not entirely scam I was correcting your presumption that JJPTR is not entirely a scam. It is 100% a scam. And mind you I may have invested 4X your amount in JJPTR but that is an amount which I am prepared to lose and can afford to lose. I invested RM141,500 in FX United which is also a scam. So my investment in JJPTR is considered very small. |
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Just do what ever you want with your money
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 17 2016, 07:38 PM) got back capital for FXUnited already? still havent collapse right? Still long way to go. But I think its on its way down very soon. |
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Oct 17 2016, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 17 2016, 08:42 PM) u just invested in that recently? it takes 10 months to recover capital Takes 10 months to recover if you don't have downlines. Anyway I invested in March and all payments stopped since Aug. Only recovered 60% equivalent of my capital so far. |
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Oct 18 2016, 12:04 AM
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Invested in MCM, got back my profit on first month, then greedy double up my pot for 2nd month, in the end problem occur and they changed the system, farked every players up and then i rugi liao
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 18 2016, 12:04 AM) u mean FXUnited already done? lucky I didnt join 2~3 months ago No not done yet. Payments have restarted but in batches. |
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Oct 18 2016, 12:20 PM) T U in FXU as well?Neither dead or alive . But there is hope as payment has restarted. Just keep fingers crossed guys! Good luck! |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 18 2016, 01:22 PM) Nope. Just hope you guys can recover back yr capital. To be able to start making payments again is the best news for you guys. There is still hope.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Anyway is very daring of you to put so much money into FXU. You must be very confident FXU can last many years. Good Luck !!! |
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Oct 19 2016, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(glamour @ Sep 15 2016, 01:15 PM) Yeah. Weekly 4300...... If not active become 2150 per week.. You gonna take the bonus 2150 until the company close .... If you active. You back to 4300 weekly. Wanna join under me? pm bro, wanna know moreI got few board to play. Info and update also fast. So far never lose yet playing all this. Their system just upgrade for PTM4U. |
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Today is Payday for some Jjptr members . Jjptr is paying 20% from today till Monday.
I just checked my acount but my 20% is not in yet. Hopefully will receive soon. Has any members here already received their 20% today? Cheers!!! |
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Do update if you receive ya ~
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For those interested. This isn't a scam but has high risks too:
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HI guys, just got my 20% from Jjptr today. Cost of living has gone up with implement of GST. This 20% bonus comes in handy. Hope you guys got yr 20% too.
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Hi, I just top up this morning. Usually take how long to update into their system. My Topup info still show "pending" Thanks.
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QUOTE(yeeck06 @ Oct 24 2016, 05:04 PM) Hi, I just top up this morning. Usually take how long to update into their system. My Topup info still show "pending" Thanks. There are 2 types of investors who get burnt by these scams:1) Those who top up their investments after a while 2) Those who stay in for too long |
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QUOTE(yeeck06 @ Oct 24 2016, 05:04 PM) Hi, I just top up this morning. Usually take how long to update into their system. My Topup info still show "pending" Thanks. Yes ,not to worry. Takes a few days unless you are in a hurry to beat a dateline Likely before Oct30. My fren just got her 20% today....more than 3K plus comm. she's retired but likes to take risk. Very few ladies are risk takers. Good Luck to all risk takers, me included. Some think most of us are like fools rushing in where angels fear to ......🤑🤑🤑 |
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Oct 24 2016, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Oct 24 2016, 11:17 PM) My fren just got her 20% today....more than 3K plus comm. How did she get 3K as her monthly payment?she's retired but likes to take risk. Very few ladies are risk takers. |
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Oct 25 2016, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE(Fabian6448 @ Oct 25 2016, 01:00 AM) Join me at www.jjptr.com/af/112081 So you don't think this is a scam? Then it's very dangerous for you and all those whom you recommend or bring under your wings.For further enquiries, whatsapp me at 0165007925 - register under me to gain back your capital in 4 months. I've already joined for 3 months, next month i will regain what i have invested inside and Dec 2016 is my BONUS. If u click the link above to register, please whatsapp me your particulars so that i can bank in back the 5% to u. Trust me, previously i was just like u guys! Thought this was all scam. The reason i give back the 5% for 4 months is bcoz i wont take any profits until the investor regain back their capitals! Fair n square! Until u guys regain capitals, only i will take my share! |
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Oct 25 2016, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(Fabian6448 @ Oct 25 2016, 09:34 AM) Scam or not....I dunno! I jz do my best in keeping my downline to regain their capitals in the shortest period of time! That's y I'm not keeping their comm till they gain! Of course its a 100% scam. Which forex trading scheme can offer you a FIXED RETURN OF 20% per month per person. Just because you get paid in the beginning doesn't mean its NOT a scam. All scams pay the early investors well because they want them to talk and spread the good news like what you are doing now. The masterminds main target at those at the bottom of the Pyramid because that's the biggest group. The danger with you not knowing that its a scam is that this is the info you will pass on to your potential downlines. This gives false hope and false promise of returns. People then end up investing money that they cannot afford to lose. This is the danger. Even I invested in JJPTR knowing its a scam and that's what ive told all my downlines (I have >15). Some of them are from LYN as well. Im transparent with them and I ensure they are aware of all the risks before they enter. |
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Oct 25 2016, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 24 2016, 11:24 PM) She joined in Sept last year with multiple accounts and also topped up after 6 months. Together with her commissions I think Tt should add up to more than 3k per month. I am just making a rough calculation as I don't have the exact figures. |
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Oct 26 2016, 03:25 AM
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QUOTE(Bill Cake @ Oct 25 2016, 11:00 PM) She joined in Sept last year with multiple accounts and also topped up after 6 months. Yes so multiple accounts. Similar to me. I make about RM5,700 per month. But I only joined in July this year.Together with her commissions I think Tt should add up to more than 3k per month. I am just making a rough calculation as I don't have the exact figures. This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 26 2016, 03:26 AM |
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Oct 26 2016, 09:58 AM
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Oct 26 2016, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(Fabian6448 @ Oct 26 2016, 09:42 AM) U open w 5 accounts? Wah.....damn nice sia 4 accounts. Rest are referrals. |
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Oct 26 2016, 10:01 AM
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Still viable to join now? This fund is close to 2 years?
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Oct 26 2016, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(Zoopdiidoo @ Oct 26 2016, 10:01 AM) Still viable to join now? This fund is close to 2 years? 1.5yrs actually.I still think its viable and that's based on a number of factors. Still safe if you want to go in now. But important to get a sponsor who is trustworthy and realises himself that tis is a scam. Many ppl will promise you anything just to get you under them. |
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Oct 26 2016, 11:28 AM
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Oct 26 2016, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(Fabian6448 @ Oct 26 2016, 09:42 AM) QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 26 2016, 03:25 AM)Yes so multiple accounts. Similar to me. I make about RM5,700 per month. But I only joined in July this year. * Wow! thats a lot. I wish to get few thousand a month but I dare not invest too much...haha Well, if you think you dare to take higher risk then invest more. Yes, is damn nice to get RM5,700 per month..exciting but most don't have the guts to throw in RM 16,800. Only Very few have the guts . Higher risk means higher gain but always be prepared to take bigger loss should the business fold up. Nothing is easy. Good luck to all high risk takers. No risk no gain, hee hee hee.🤑 |
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Oct 26 2016, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 26 2016, 10:10 AM) 1.5yrs actually. Yes,Always get a good and responsible sponsor who can guide you all the way. I still think its viable and that's based on a number of factors. Still safe if you want to go in now. But important to get a sponsor who is trustworthy and realises himself that tis is a scam. Many ppl will promise you anything just to get you under them. There are some who will disappear after getting your commission. |
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Oct 26 2016, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(Fabian6448 @ Oct 26 2016, 12:50 PM) Walaoeh....I have 15 members under me....all getting their 5% 2 months d.....if u can't trust me....then u can't trust anyone here! Who talking bout you? General statement. Anyway, my point was not about the referral fee. Its about the safety of the investment. If you do not know/believe that JJPTR is a scam, you will not be always keeping track of it. You will be very trusting and you wont get 'advanced' info when the scam is going to collapse. In all scams, if u are 'connected' to the top guys, you will get tis info. Investing in such scams requires the right connections. Blindly investing is ok but when the scam is already >1.5yrs its quite risky. |
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Oct 26 2016, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 26 2016, 02:51 PM) Who talking bout you? Since you are already a member, go to FAQ and read the term below. It already mentioned the return is NOT GUARANTEED. You need to get your defination right about what is called scam. JJPTR never offer any guarantee that you will receive 20% every month forever. Everyone that joined know there is risk involved.General statement. Anyway, my point was not about the referral fee. Its about the safety of the investment. If you do not know/believe that JJPTR is a scam, you will not be always keeping track of it. You will be very trusting and you wont get 'advanced' info when the scam is going to collapse. In all scams, if u are 'connected' to the top guys, you will get tis info. Investing in such scams requires the right connections. Blindly investing is ok but when the scam is already >1.5yrs its quite risky. This post has been edited by brianw87: Oct 26 2016, 07:23 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Oct 27 2016, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(brianw87 @ Oct 26 2016, 07:22 PM) Since you are already a member, go to FAQ and read the term below. It already mentioned the return is NOT GUARANTEED. You need to get your defination right about what is called scam. JJPTR never offer any guarantee that you will receive 20% every month forever. Everyone that joined know there is risk involved. U trying to teach me about investments and scams? I think its you that needs to read up and understand the difference between NOT GUARANTEED vs SCAMS. Just because an investment scheme says its returns are NOT GUARANTEED doesn't mean that the scheme is NOT a scam. Even Amanah Saham is NOT GUARANTEED yet its a LEGITIMATE and LEGAL investment. JJPTR is a 100% SCAM because the returns you get are not coming from any forex trading. It comes solely from the investments made by new investors. And the moment the new investors start to reduce, JJPTR will collapse because they cannot pay the 20% returns. This is a typical PONZI scheme. JJPTR will collapse just like any other scheme because there are many out there who know that its a scam and most scams don't last more than 2 yrs. And NO! Many of those who joined JJPTR DO NOT KNOW IT IS A SCAM! Yes many who invested know there is risk involved but how many know that the risk is 100% and they could lose their WHOLE CAPITAL??? Let's not mislead anybody here just for the sake of being selfish in getting more referrals. This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 27 2016, 08:59 AM |
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Oct 27 2016, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(brianw87 @ Oct 26 2016, 07:22 PM) Since you are already a member, go to FAQ and read the term below. It already mentioned the return is NOT GUARANTEED. You need to get your defination right about what is called scam. JJPTR never offer any guarantee that you will receive 20% every month forever. Everyone that joined know there is risk involved. the money u transfer to UK company right ?it's transferred to a company registered to a 27year old malaysian. it doesnt even have legit financial license to operate. just a plain company without office i think let me give u a rough calculation anything which can pay 20% to its investor monthly plus other overriding percentage per month. let's put it this way monthly company need to pay out 25% monthly. that is just merely the fixed costs. usually legit fund management company shares about 40:60 ratio profit with investor. means they take in 40% of profit. so company need to generate roughly about 41% profit monthly from forex trading per month. 41% monthly multiply 12months = 492% return yearly hedge fund best return for 2015 only 45% annual returns http://www.barrons.com/articles/our-top-10...unds-1466222376 what chance of this thing to be able to generate near to 500% return per annum is 10x of hedge fund highest industry standard ? Warren Buffet would dump billions to you to trade. you could make 10x of what george soros does on a good year. This post has been edited by AllnGap: Oct 27 2016, 10:56 AM |
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Oct 27 2016, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Oct 27 2016, 10:51 AM) the money u transfer to UK company right ? Well said! it's transferred to a company registered to a 27year old malaysian. it doesnt even have legit financial license to operate. just a plain company without office i think let me give u a rough calculation anything which can pay 20% to its investor monthly plus other overriding percentage per month. let's put it this way monthly company need to pay out 25% monthly. that is just merely the fixed costs. usually legit fund management company shares about 40:60 ratio profit with investor. means they take in 40% of profit. so company need to generate roughly about 41% profit monthly from forex trading per month. 41% monthly multiply 12months = 492% return yearly hedge fund best return for 2015 only 45% annual returns http://www.barrons.com/articles/our-top-10...unds-1466222376 what chance of this thing to be able to generate near to 500% return per annum is 10x of hedge fund highest industry standard ? Warren Buffet would dump billions to you to trade. you could make 10x of what george soros does on a good year. Just shocks me how so called educated ppl cannot see / realise something is a scam and they try and defend it saying its NOT a scam just because they get paid. |
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Oct 28 2016, 09:53 AM
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Just funny to see how JJPTR keeps using all kinds of companies to bank in the interest and referral fees. They keep registering new companies to do these transactions to avoid detection by BNM.
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Oct 28 2016, 11:51 AM
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Hi guys.
Anyone of u heard www.otmcapital.com This is Indonesia asset management company with legit licenses |
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Oct 28 2016, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(Imleonardlim @ Oct 28 2016, 11:51 AM) Hi guys. What do u mean by legit licences?Anyone of u heard www.otmcapital.com This is Indonesia asset management company with legit licenses |
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Oct 28 2016, 03:18 PM
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They claim they are comply all the licenses of the country.
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Oct 28 2016, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(Imleonardlim @ Oct 28 2016, 03:18 PM) They claim they are comply all the licenses of the country. Then your earlier statement is misleading. You said they have legit licences which means that you know this for a fact. ANyway, all scam and legit companies will claim they have licences. Nobody would ever say they are ILLEGAL. Its up to us to do our due diligence and know the facts. |
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Oct 28 2016, 03:32 PM
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Thats y I share out here for discuss.
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Oct 28 2016, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(Imleonardlim @ Oct 28 2016, 03:32 PM) Thats y I share out here for discuss. Start a new thread. |
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Oct 28 2016, 04:22 PM
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4080332&hl=OTM
Come to discuss here This post has been edited by Imleonardlim: Oct 28 2016, 04:22 PM |
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Oct 29 2016, 08:36 AM
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btw, this JJPTR is listed in Monetary Authority of SINGAPORE watchlist (MAS)
find under "J" area http://www.mas.gov.sg/IAL.aspx?sc_p=I |
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Oct 29 2016, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Oct 29 2016, 08:36 AM) btw, this JJPTR is listed in Monetary Authority of SINGAPORE watchlist (MAS) Yup I saw that end Aug. Hope it doesn't get listed on BNM's watch list. That would mean the end is near.find under "J" area http://www.mas.gov.sg/IAL.aspx?sc_p=I |
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Oct 29 2016, 03:52 PM
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Let's have faith in boss Johnson Lee!
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Oct 30 2016, 09:53 AM
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Jjptr or what ever r is better than warran buffet or soros.
Brb gonna sell everything to join jjptr, typing resign letter and throw it on hr manager face: "Ayam quit! Because ayam is jjptr member now." Ayam gonna be rich and financial freedom like rich papa poor papa book talk kok. Ayam happi. This post has been edited by heavensea: Oct 30 2016, 09:55 AM |
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Oct 30 2016, 11:08 AM
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Oct 30 2016, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Oct 29 2016, 03:52 PM) Let's have faith in boss Johnson Lee! There is no such thing as FAITH when dealing with scams. FAITH will cause you to lose your investments. He is a conman the same as all other scam masterminds. You either go in with that knowledge or you don't go in at all. |
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Oct 31 2016, 10:51 AM
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Just heard that the conversion rate for Nov is 4.4 and 4.0.
So those of us already in with maximum accounts will be getting RM800 per month now compared to RM760 (till Sept) and RM780 (till Oct). Referral fees will now be USD50 or RM200 for every max account. This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 31 2016, 10:58 AM |
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Oct 31 2016, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 31 2016, 10:51 AM) Just heard that the conversion rate for Nov is 4.4 and 4.0. HuattttSo those of us already in with maximum accounts will be getting RM800 per month now compared to RM760 (till Sept) and RM780 (till Oct). Referral fees will now be USD50 or RM200 for every max account. |
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Oct 31 2016, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 31 2016, 10:51 AM) Just heard that the conversion rate for Nov is 4.4 and 4.0. Yes, confirmed.So those of us already in with maximum accounts will be getting RM800 per month now compared to RM760 (till Sept) and RM780 (till Oct). Referral fees will now be USD50 or RM200 for every max account. This month will get RM800 ![]() Those who want join November, maximum Invest become RM4400 (Return/mth RM800); minium Invest RM110 (Return/mth RM20); www.facebook.com/investjjptr This post has been edited by idealhometech: Oct 31 2016, 11:51 AM |
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Oct 31 2016, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 31 2016, 10:51 AM) Just heard that the conversion rate for Nov is 4.4 and 4.0. Good Good So those of us already in with maximum accounts will be getting RM800 per month now compared to RM760 (till Sept) and RM780 (till Oct). Referral fees will now be USD50 or RM200 for every max account. |
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Nov 1 2016, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Oct 29 2016, 08:36 AM) btw, this JJPTR is listed in Monetary Authority of SINGAPORE watchlist (MAS) malaysia have these kind of watch list?find under "J" area http://www.mas.gov.sg/IAL.aspx?sc_p=I |
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Nov 1 2016, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(aeonsakura @ Nov 1 2016, 12:54 PM) yes gothere. https://www.sc.com.my/list-of-unauthorised-...es-individuals/ usually malaysia side slower to list things up. |
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Nov 1 2016, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(aeonsakura @ Nov 1 2016, 12:54 PM) malaysia have these kind of watch list? Its on the Bank Negara Malaysia website |
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