Let's recap shall we?

You claimed the TFV8 was the most "powerful" RTA. Your conjecture was duly disproven.

You said you've never seen the Tornado @ 300W. You were shown the video of it being used @ 300W

You claimed better airflow for the TFV8 vis-a-vis the Tornado, and failed to take into account the Tornado's top airflow as well as the slower speed of air emitted from a larger deck air outlet as opposed to the faster airflow from a smaller opening.

You then had doubts on the efficacy of the tornado's top airflow on the basis of a diagram.

And now you claim that you are able to extrapolate the heat generated on a one atomizer based on your experience building multiple coils on another entirely different atomizer? 

All this for an atomizer you have yet to receive, let alone test?

Much wow! Enough of this. Carry on conjecturing.

Ehem.... as much as I like to see both of my most trusted poisoners carry on in heated discussion, especially when it comes to Vape technicalities, I find that it's often more prudent when the parties involved ended up agreeing to disagree.

Vaping, as much as we like to think of it as something scientific with a deep body of knowledge behind it... isn't really. And much of it is still pretty much black magic and mambo jumbo... and it's just made worse by the fact that it's a very subjective thing that highly depends on personal preferences.

Like personally I always thought that the DNA hype was... you know... just hype (or justification from a bunch of folks who got duped into buying an overly expensive device with an overly rated chipboard). But if there's one thing I've learnt from my experiences with audiophilia, it's pretty much something that varies *a lot* from person to person... and there *was* still room for truth amidst the hype.

Hence, I got myself a DNA mod and was pleasantly surprised (I still am).

Back to the topic at hand, is many small coils better then two large ones? Is more airflow better then less? Well, while we can whip out tools to measure airflow... the end result is still *very* much debatable and subject to personal preferences.

While Atty A might be said to be capable of whatever watts (which, is really mostly just exaggerated manufacturers claims to me - though, as always, I stand to be corrected), it might not mean that it would run the said watts comfortably or optimally. To take a very distantly related example, the 213.

Similarly, for Atty B, it's not exactly fair to assume airflow from looking at pictures/diagrams alone. I mean I took one look at the GMv3's new spitback chimney and thought "shit airflow, shit flavour". Yet apparently, from reviews slowly hitting Reddit, it actually does quite well and apparently has comparative (or maybe even better) airflow and flavour vs the v2.

As such, unless someone decides to get both the atomisers involved and set themselves up (and, to make it fair, rope in some innocent bystanding vapers) to a A-B blind test, and prepare a bunch of tools for objective measurements; it's pretty much a battle of split hairs.

So, to both my long time sifus, please play nice. You're gonna scare the nubises.

Just felt like throwing my 20 cents to the fray. No offence meant.

Ohh yes. vape mail.

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Imagine if you will, biting into a hand-sized mini apple pie (or any other bakery item) that got out from the oven 30-45min ago. You bite into the the crust...a rather warm gush of aromatic crust and pie filling hits your senses. With the crust broken, the pie starts to cools faster. Makes me wish there was a chicken pie ejuice 

Ya, come over to the darkside. I have 2 cuboid and ipv4s and ipvd3. This therion by far most satisfy mod I ever get. cuboid give you a little joy awhile but the firing and ramp up time is a off is not configurable and unable to advance all dependent on their firmware update and I browse through joytech firmware update list all I got is some shitty screen play update and fkin games seriously? I'm looking for a fix but there is non. Don't get me wrong is still a good mod @ 150w default and built quality with the competitive pricing but I need something more accurate, more details to able to vape correctly.

I went to the VE in Sri Hartamas over the weekend, personally don't like the look of VT133.

+ my Subzero RDA can be leaky at times (I tend to overdrip)
So as a RX2/3 owner, you'd have to have a set of 2 and a set of 3 married batteries eh?
  I keep telling myself, it's nice to look at.. on the other hand RM220 for Smok H-Priv and four batteries ?!?!

Ooo, I might take you up on that offer.
We'll see how 

hello there,
i'm new to this vape. this is my first time to vape.

is this ok or not?
http://www.lelong.com.my/ipv4s-ipv-4s-zeph...7-11-Sale-P.htm
tq.

For around 120, the Fuchai can be considered... IF said vaper doesn't really want to ever consider doing TC... ever. The Fuchai is as broken as the OG213 at that - the build-in TC function is pure BS at its best.

At the standard 200+ retail price... better get a Cuboid IMHO. Or an RX200s/RX23. Even with the dodgy JT 510s, I feel a whole lot more comfortable recommending these three then any Sig-lie mod (other then the OG Sig150).

Or as the initial recommendation went, Pico/VTC mini + tank + batteries + spare batteries (+case) + external charger + (most importantly) a boatload of juices. Seriously, when you get a semi-competent mod, juice choice becomes a more important factor then the hardware itself.

As for tanks, getting either Pico or VTC in a Kit (tank included) nets you simple OCC tanks that work well for both MTL (mouth draw - ciggies) and DTL (lung draw - shisha) styles of vaping. Of course, they are both outclassed by whatever more advanced tanks out there, but they are much, much easier to use.

It's limited local availability is the problem though lol. Can't recommend unless it's relatively easy to find IMHO.

I mean if the Quantum was easy to find I'd recommend it easily over the VTC (for various reasons).

Is it pocket-friendly? I guess my main concern would be portability. A two 18650 mod that is pocketable.

Saw the H-Priv for $37.99 and just went for it.

Bought 4 VTC4's as well.

sape duk area melawati/w.maju/keramat? flavourist xjual raw dah. mana lg dekat2 ade supply raw? mohon kejesama sifussss. ana punya stock hisap abis

Well, in that case I guess our breadcrumbs helped, I guess. Hopefully the RX23 gives you the additional performance that you seek.

BTW, the TwoThirds are actually more consistent (no kicking itself out) doing TC with my twisted wires then both the Pico and VTC were. It's the same chip and yet this.

Got me thinking... all the normal Wismec hanky panky aside, they might have done something right with this one after all lol.

Still TCs like crap compared to my DNA200 though lol.

Lol. Normal firing or TC? Don't tell me the TC is also near DNA level already?

If so you're gonna make me want one. I hetchusomush...

Dam. Now I gotta get a few Smok mods just to test this.

Hetchu...

Wonder if the Cube Ultra, Quantum and the R150 are as good.