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Toys R/C Helicopter, Anyone intrested in this ?

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post May 28 2009, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 28 2009, 06:21 PM)
u can get the length and rotor specs from uniqexme site or official walkera site ... then imagine that heli side by side with your TREX 450 .. u will get an idea of how small the bugger is la .. hehehe
its shorter than the ESKY LAMA quite alot .. 100 times more challenging to fly ... 10000 times more challenging to mod .. hahahahahahaa

the OEM skids are thin wire only ... there are 3rd party upgrades for it though .. the ppl who uses it says its virtually indestructible ...

now still trying to get the feeling of that 4G3 hovering .. hehehe
newbie like me oso can hover it for 10-15secs straight land and hover again ... thanks to lots of SIM time ... hahahahahahahaa

must make an effort to go back and change the shaft tonite so tomoro can fly again ... hehehe
FYI .. 4 x (feathering shaft + screw) cost me USD10 ... not expensive at all tongue.gif
i think next month i might be ordering parts again laa ... now that i know what will need to be replaced more during crashes tongue.gif


Added on May 28, 2009, 6:28 pmsome of the cosmetic and skid upgrades are here .. http://www.micro-flight.com/
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Thanks for your info.
If i got 1 we can share info in future.
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post May 29 2009, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 29 2009, 02:18 AM)
ok ... could not sleep yet ...
just replaced the feathering shaft .. looking for more action tomoro .. hahahahaa

cliffang ... here is a pic for comparing the size of a 4G3 vs a packet of winston lights ... hahahaaha

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Thanks a lot. I got the feel on the size.. very small indeed.
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post May 29 2009, 11:30 AM

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The kaui lou really so free, even putting HH Gyro to the tiny 4G3..
Seems like will have to spend a lot more to convert it in using other TX.
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post May 29 2009, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 29 2009, 01:26 PM)
yes .. of coz ... its the same with everything else in life
buy car not too expensive .. then mod mod mod ... count count ... could have bought another car already .. hahaha

problem is its a hobby thing which has no value .. only self satisfaction and being happy
my other hobby which has taken a back seat currently is fishing .. both freshwater and offshore ... is oso not cheap
buy good fishing gears oso like big heli price liau ... then mod the gears ... custom gears .. service the gears
then have to count the cost of paying for boat ... travelling to fishing spots ... etc etc
it could have been much cheaper to just go market and buy fish .. hahahahaha

who knows ?? one day maybe i might like my 4G3 so much i might wanna spektrum the bugger with HH gyro ?? hahahaha
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Maybe I'll join your boat?

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post May 29 2009, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 29 2009, 02:02 PM)
but always 1st thing 1st ... i have to learn to fly the bugger properly
once i can do that ... other things will fall into place .. hehehe
so i assume u will be getting your 4G3 soon ??
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Maybe... but might not be so soon.
Thinking of going to Graffiti to have a look of it, and see what can they offer me. brows.gif

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post May 29 2009, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 29 2009, 02:28 PM)
waa ... coming all the way to KL to have a look see ??
or u already have a reason to be here ?? hehehehe

anyways ... more update on my flying ..
was flying around just now .. 1st 5 secs was fine ... suddenly heli out of control !!
WTF ?????
crashed ..... broke tail boom this round ... nothing else serious .. no broken head parts .. phheewwww
upon closer inspection ... the upper swash has separated from lower swash causing me to lose control ... so it NOT ME !! hahahahahaa ... i already have spare boom .. usd4 ... not too bad .. all casude by the separating swash .. hmmmmm
gonna go back and superglue the bugger (as per advised by forummers)

well ... IF u really enjoy building ... then i guess this is the heli to have .. ahahahahaa ... i am not so worried about crashing costs ... more the trouble to fix it back as i mentioned ... everything is just so TINY !!!

while at changing the boom .. i am going to put on my brushless tail setup which i already have .. and oso upgrade the main motors to a different brushless (more power one) set .. both with their own respective ESC ... huahahahaha
this was the bulk of the cost of the rm700 upgrade i ordered earlier this month ..
btw ...... my TREX 450 PRO just arrived !! huahahahahahaahahahaa
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Once a while my wife and me will go KL shopping. So might drop by there during that time but coming 3 weeksend will be busy.
Great that you fly well. Feel good isn't it?
Wow more power = less flying time, am i right?
when are you going to 3D the little fella?
You can start building your 450 PRO.. that's great.
Going to get you GY401?

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post May 29 2009, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 29 2009, 02:54 PM)
i have to master FF 1st la ... 3D all come later laa .. hehehe
and will be done over grass in outdoor field ... so if crash oso minimum damage .. hahahahaaa

the slightly smaller 4#3b got about 8mins+ of normal FF with that motor ... i should be able to get 7mins FF or 5mins 3D la .. IF i can 3D ... hahahahahahaa

i will persevere with the 4G3 until i can fly it effortlessly .. hehehe
after that its time to show off the 450 PRO .. huahahahahahahaa


Added on May 29, 2009, 3:01 pmno need to get the gy401 ... was planning to get it when i was thinking of going the copterX way ... now no need liau coz the 450 pro comes with full digital servos and 750gyro (which some ppl say are same or better than the 401) ... hehehe
all i have to do is build it ... understand it ... later fly it .. hahahahaa

for now its all 4G3 for me ... the little bugger too irresistible liau laa ... hahaha
wait till u get yours then u know ...  coz nothing to setup and can fly anytime anywhere ... damm convenient .. u can even take it with u when u go anywhere coz its so small ... it all fits into a shoebox .. hahhaahaa
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Oh ya, forgot that the combo comes with everything.
Flying in house, that's what in my mind.
I hover my 450 in my 5 x 6ft living room empty area. Damn too risky. But have tune it and i can fingers off about 10 secs and the 450 stays in the area... thumbup.gif
My house is near sea side so kinda windy or HOT nowadays, so want to stay indoor.
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post May 29 2009, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 29 2009, 03:59 PM)
waa ... beach house ... RICH PPL SPOTTED !! huahahahahaa

the 4G3 or the 4#3 will be perfect for indoors ... unless u want coaxials la .. hehehe tongue.gif
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Not beach house, there's no beach in Muar, mostly wet land.
Somehow my house just 500m away from the sea side. House on wet land = cheap.
Really looking forward for indoor flying.

The one that always crash and change parts are rich "people"~~
yeeck, agree with me?

RM99? what copter is that?

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post May 29 2009, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(hitz @ May 29 2009, 05:47 PM)
Do try to go 7th floor to survey the price also. Seem like more heli shop opening in Times Square...
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The 7th floor shop? Only Sales person in the shop who don't even how RC helicopter works.
Just like someone who don't know char kue tiao selling char kue tiao..
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post May 30 2009, 01:47 PM

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Saw this on web... seems nice upgrade~
http://www.simplyt-rex.com/rc-helicopter/u...-drive-assembly
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post May 30 2009, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 30 2009, 02:51 PM)
60 Uk pounds worr ... thats about rm350+ just for torque tube conversion
SE V2 + the conversion price oso more expensive liau ..

belt tail is good IF u can always get the tension perfect laa ... less and cheaper parts ... torque tube good for lazee ppl like me ... haahahahaa

been bz this morning ... no time to touch the 4G3 yet oso ... little while more taking kids out AGAIN ... no time no time .. tonite hopefully got time la
if can get the 4G3 fixed by tonite then tomoro maybe bring it early early morning to BTHO site try and fly laa .. or go to the field near my house .. hehehehe
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Not to worry about the price, sooner or later some shop will bring it in at lower price. laugh.gif

BTW, anyone know the price of this?
http://www.boononline.com/furion450index.htm

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post May 31 2009, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ May 30 2009, 10:36 PM)
the only way to find out is to call and ask .. hehehehe

the mega shop fella said he will be bringing in the trex 450 pro by middle to end of JUNE .. he alleged he will sell it at 1500 or not more than 1500
WALANEH !!! damm sakit hati liau me bought at rm1780 !!!  cry.gif

on the 4G3 .. almost completed my repairs and upgrade .. new MAIN not fitted in yet coz the pinion too long and clashes with the battery compartment .. will take the motor to a grnding machine and grind the pinion down .. or go to the sellers mini group and ask for an opinion ... hehehe
tail is now running with brushless outrunner ... hahahahahaa
all i have to do is fit the head back and align everything ... then kowtim liau

if all goes well the rest of the nite .. i shall be bringing my little 4G3 early tomoro morning outside to screw around ... huahahahahahaa
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Don't be so sakit hati la~ At least you get to enjoy it now, isn't it? icon_rolleyes.gif
The mega shop fella will bring any 43G in or not? brows.gif
Almost done fitting your "turbo" in ya... post some photo for us to see then..
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post May 31 2009, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(mamak008 @ May 31 2009, 07:49 PM)
Just find out my sifu crash his compy300 V2 today at BTHO.. doh.gif . He did mentioned to me some of pro flyer's  look at compy as cheapo heli . He also tell me he maybe going to get the walkera 4G3 V3 to rock the BTHO , the smallest CP helicopter capable 3D..Hmm my sifu weird like to fly cheapo heli.


Added on May 31, 2009, 7:50 pm

Hey the nickname so familiar ?  brows.gif
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4G3 V3? where to get it?
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post Jun 1 2009, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 1 2009, 08:55 AM)
rm1.2k RTF kit ah ?? which site or place selling at that price ?? hehehe
uniqeuxme site oso no stock liau
hobbysportz selling at rm1350 ...


Added on June 1, 2009, 8:57 am

waa .. the couple of times i went oso didnt see crash ... this round got crash ah ?? too bad didnt get to see la ... hehehe
it is only HUMAN to say its mechanical error .. huahahahahaaa


Added on June 1, 2009, 9:01 am

ps ... u forgot to include maintenance and crash costs ... tongue.gif
3S 2200mah lipos are at least rm100 each .. 1S 400mah is only rm20-30 each

and u cannot fly the 450 indoors and show off in small house compound oso .. tongue.gif tongue.gif
that is once u have learned how to fly la .. hahahahaa
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Before crash is HUMAN error, after crash then become mechanical failure lo... all broken into pieces.... so can say as so: "Because the blade broke into pieces that's why i failed to control." (Make sense?) laugh.gif

Believe me, if you are not so expert, DON'T TRY FLYING 450 IN HOUSE, IT'S DANGEROUS. sweat.gif shakehead.gif
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post Jun 1 2009, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 1 2009, 09:58 AM)
wei . since u can hover hover the 450 inside house considered expert liau la rite ??
should give newbie like me tips to fly properly ma .. hahahahaa

anyways ... went to field .. crashed as usual .. maybe i am just not ready to take it outdoors yet laa .. hahaha
the tail motor came off coz i did not CA it as per advised .. its ez job just to stick it back in ... later have to go get some nice CA laa

another prob .. when i push forward on cyclic the heli rolls left as well ... pull back and it rolls right together while going back
checked for bindings in servos and arms and swash .. non detected .. servo travel/limits looks the same to me when everything is removed
anybody encounter this prob b4 ?? i did not adjust any settings in the TX .. swash looks almost 100% level
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Play simulation more often. I play simulation 10 times more often than the real thing.
Get the feel of it.... in simulation - everything is in perfect condition, just fly.
In real thing, there may have problems due to not setup properly. But if you practice more in simulation, it'll reduce your respond times towards controlling the heli.

Try check your CG, may due to the overweighted tail. 4G3 is known for heavy tail.
It can be caused by wind. 4G3 is sensitive to wind.

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post Jun 1 2009, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 1 2009, 01:30 PM)
i oso understand the 4#3 is more suitable to crash and learn .. and oso much much cheaper to crash due to lower HS being an FP ..
but i was thinking ... since i am going to learn .. and willing to bear the consequences ... i might as well learn about CP straightaway .. no matter what i will be going onto the CP wagon so better start learn about the repairs and characteristics of a CP heli so that i will have a much easier time with bigger heli in the future (much lesser crash)

who knows ? maybe i might go buy a 4#3b later ??? hehehehe
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You are in CP now, why still go back to FP? Sticking to 4G3 should be good enough~
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post Jun 1 2009, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 1 2009, 03:07 PM)
thats why i am repair & setting up my 4G3 every time i crash maa .. basic necessary skills but of coz parts need $$$ one laa ... hahahahahahaaa

i did mentioned earlier that the 4#3 is not out of my IN FUTURE MAYBE PURCHASE category maa ... i like small helis in the 1st place ... its fun altho damm hard to repair due to small little parts damm kow hard to see and hold ... hahahahahaa

tonites mission ... interchange aileron servos with pitch servo ... see if problem mentioned earlier still persist
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What's the size of the servo for 4G3? 9g?
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post Jun 2 2009, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 2 2009, 09:45 AM)
ya .. alot of local sites oso ... but alot of them oso not quite active unless u look in the classifieds .. hahahahaa

hmmm ... lets see ... now i am going to redo all the wiring of the add ons in my 4G3 coz it looks so messy under the canopy ... so today maybe go hunt for small heatshrinks and super small wires
dont really like the wires that came with the BL tail .. the EXT pot contact no good .. thats why the servos not working properly .. need to go get some contact cleaner oso ... but at least nothing spent to buy parts .. hahahaa


Added on June 2, 2009, 9:48 ameh kenny ... u bought the reflex with the dongle for rm130 ah ??
that dongle can plug in walkera/dx7 without buying additional accessories one or not ??
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I'm using Reflex dongle, with DSX7. No adaptor needed. Just use the audio jack.
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post Jun 2 2009, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 2 2009, 10:41 AM)
where did u see this ??
CD can copy from u la .. just need the dongle only ma .. hehehe


Added on June 2, 2009, 10:43 am

err ... does your OS detect the mic in jack as joystick or not ??
need PPJOY or something like that ??

DSX7 should be the same as DX7 laa ... should work

dont wanna do SIMS with the ESKY TX anymore laa .. wanna do it with either the walkera or DX7 tongue.gif
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The dongle is USB with code, the other end to radio is audio jack. Have to plug in the dongle to start the sim.
my OS just detect it as USB device. It's not like the FMS dongle detect it as joystick.
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post Jun 2 2009, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 2 2009, 11:23 AM)
ok ... the mono microphone plug goes to the USB dongle which is plugged into the USB port la rite ??
ok ok ... now i get it liau .. hehehe
thanks

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Oh ya, the radio will auto ON when plug in the jack. (Leave it in OFF mode)
If you ON the radio, it will disconnected from the SIM.

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