lol owned 2 birds with 1 stone

basically both hero have below average hp but either one make use of disabler first (FV's ulti or AM with guinsoo) will ensure the victory at end game, thats my 2 cent

This post has been edited by Dark Lynx: Jan 23 2007, 09:18 PM

unfortunately its true
no no, guinsoo is the main point here, of course he doesn't buy ONLY a guinsoo to fight against FV..thats stupid ain't it?
AM blink away? what if you're the AM that is blinking in? aha evade after blink?
whichever the case, the first one flies in (FV or AM) will be in disadvantage because the other can escape away, you are just seeing from one point of view

tell me what build should an AM get to fight versus a faceless void?
more HP? increase damage? insane evasion? (few butterfly) zapper style? (dagon)
well any of the above, when you use to fight against an average faceless will also win against you
he simply needs to Chronos on you (did someone mentioned he can evade chronos? give a better reason please, a LAN host or not doesn't show any sense how you can evade a chronos )
an average player will only responds (from a sudden attack from AM) right after 2-3 attacks, so u still have some time to chronos before you are dead
if his chronos fails, he also have backtrack and bash
now to make matters worst, anti mage is a melee character that relies heavily on his normal attack (since FV not a caster)

now theres few scenario i can think of when an anti mage can kill a FV (with clear results)
1) FV was caught off guard by sudden attack from AM (with few bashers). He got bashed non stop and die before can cast Chronos
2) AM guinsoed FV and kill him before he can cast ulti (at least 5-6 wacks on minimum during guinsooed time )
3) AM got few heart of tarrasque and butterfly, FV cant kill him within the time AM was inside Chronos (FV damage not strong enough probably )

hmm..i think this discussion is not getting beneficial liao
first of all, you guys are assuming that FV will vs AM in the same lane
now imho, a smart player, if they keep on die, they will likely to change lane or ask for help
secondly theres so many place to farm..its unlikely for you to completely stop a player from farming well
so the whole discussion should be about how FV vs AM at the end game
what sort of builds can AM get to kill FV? this is the kind of discussion that needs to spark out

of course you need to compare 2 pros fight together man!
precisely a pro FV vs a pro AM
if that 64 mana break damage of your AM could control the FV from farming whole game..i salute you for doing so, coz that is not likely going to happen unless you fight against noob FV who can't return damage when you hit him

its not a matter of who is better using which character, if u are a AM player...you should tell how can you kill a FV , using logic of course , if u are telling us by your experience or vs AI..i don't think it even counts as a debate

btw this message is for AM players, i already agree FV wins completely : hands down
my previous post shows possibility of AM to win , but the chance is slim

that completely summarizes my point
there is nothing to debate here
they are juz comparing apples and bananas in the end