which u find more exciting? dota only 4 buttons to push while wow pvp has more than 20 buttons to push...but that also makes dota more newbie friendly.
Dota 2 vs Wow PVP
Dota 2 vs Wow PVP
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Jul 8 2016, 03:33 PM, updated 10y ago
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which u find more exciting? dota only 4 buttons to push while wow pvp has more than 20 buttons to push...but that also makes dota more newbie friendly.
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i dun like complacated stuff so prefer diablo3😂
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Alterac Valley WOW in the old days
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CS more easy
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More buttons doesn't mean more fun though. WoW arena revolves a lot around pillar humping.
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Jul 8 2016, 03:42 PM
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There maybe 20 buttons you can assign for everything in WoW but in reality you only push around 5-6 buttons which depending on your talents. Example: a healer will never push buttons that are used by DPS and a DPS will almost never push any buttons related to heal.
The others are just buff, oh-shit button and other situational use buttons.. |
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Chen and meepo asked UWOTM8?
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Jul 8 2016, 03:42 PM) There maybe 20 buttons you can assign for everything in WoW but in reality you only push around 5-6 buttons which depending on your talents. Example: a healer will never push buttons that are used by DPS and a DPS will almost never push any buttons related to heal. u willThe others are just buff, oh-shit button and other situational use buttons.. if ur a healer and the opposite team healer is at low health every member will use their burst on him, even the healer.. |
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Jul 8 2016, 03:42 PM) There maybe 20 buttons you can assign for everything in WoW but in reality you only push around 5-6 buttons which depending on your talents. Example: a healer will never push buttons that are used by DPS and a DPS will almost never push any buttons related to heal. You will be surprised. Shadow priests have been known to melt faces while tossing out the odd heal on occasion.The others are just buff, oh-shit button and other situational use buttons.. Boomkins will starfire you and buff/heal their allies. Feral druids do fucking everything. Admittedly, while you're actually in combat, you will be pressing only 5-6 buttons most of the time. But throughout the entire battle? Some classes have a lot of buttons to press. |
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Used to be a lot more buttons until they did the ability pruning thing.
QUOTE(GnomeMage @ Jul 8 2016, 03:42 PM) You cap the flag and wait it out. Can't remember how long though I think it's about 2.5 minutes. |
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Jul 8 2016, 03:51 PM
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WoW PVP?
You mean pillar humping exercise? |
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dota 4 button lmao must be trash tier noob
just stick to wraith king then, trash friendly hero, 1 button only, oh muh skill cap |
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the battlegrounds hnggggghh nostalgic. played night & days sleepless night for grand marshal gears.
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Jul 8 2016, 03:42 PM) There maybe 20 buttons you can assign for everything in WoW but in reality you only push around 5-6 buttons which depending on your talents. Example: a healer will never push buttons that are used by DPS and a DPS will almost never push any buttons related to heal. by oh-shit you mean insignia of the hoe?The others are just buff, oh-shit button and other situational use buttons.. |
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Cs la. Cs just aim and tembak.
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Jul 8 2016, 03:42 PM) There maybe 20 buttons you can assign for everything in WoW but in reality you only push around 5-6 buttons which depending on your talents. Example: a healer will never push buttons that are used by DPS and a DPS will almost never push any buttons related to heal. mage has a lot of button to push. after u play mage other class has no taste, esp those with dps rotation.The others are just buff, oh-shit button and other situational use buttons.. u gotta keep icebarrier up, use frost nova/blink/iceblock/ when in trouble choose in between icelance and frostbolt to dmg fireball when proc deep freeze when target low health poly when fighting more than 1 enemy cone of cold when come too close with enemy summon water elemental use icey vains when u see fit fireblast when u panic and don't know wht to do .. |
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CS the best , just spam your bullet !!
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There's a reason why u win 16million usd playing dota2 and not wow.
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QUOTE(GnomeMage @ Jul 8 2016, 03:54 PM) Yeah just don't let the opposing faction to cap it back, timer will reset.That's why you need to defend it after capping. Leave only when it's on fire. QUOTE(gnomemaster @ Jul 8 2016, 04:08 PM) What do you think is the reason? |
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Jul 8 2016, 03:42 PM) There maybe 20 buttons you can assign for everything in WoW but in reality you only push around 5-6 buttons which depending on your talents. Example: a healer will never push buttons that are used by DPS and a DPS will almost never push any buttons related to heal. For serious arena players, probably closer to 60-90 hotkeys.The others are just buff, oh-shit button and other situational use buttons.. |
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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 8 2016, 04:14 PM) Lol this. Tinker full slot how?For example, a mage: Sheep player1, sheep player2, sheep player3. Counter spell player1, player2, player3. That's 6 keys already for only 2 abilities. Hex player1, Dagon, laser, rocket, shiva, eblade, blink n tele base, refresh, tele back to a hero, repeat til everyone dead. That's 8 skills Jz to kill one sohai str morphling 😑 |
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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 8 2016, 04:14 PM) Lol this. Some people just mapped everything under one or two button. And keep smashing that two buttons all night long.For example, a mage: Sheep player1, sheep player2, sheep player3. Counter spell player1, player2, player3. That's 6 keys already for only 2 abilities. |
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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 8 2016, 03:38 PM) ala the pro gaming scene isnt so bad ma, but as the expansions came out and added more skills hp/buttons etc, i think to the layman (technically i am as well since i've quit WoW for so long) it seems a bit... well, people just wouldn't understand what's going on and i guess the perception of just LOS aka pillar humping going on. |
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Ayam play with women onli hav 3 button
Still da best game eva This post has been edited by rjsyazwan: Jul 8 2016, 04:28 PM |
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I often find fighting games exciting to watch. Blade n Soul, dragon nest, etc. Basically those that requires a lot of combos.
I also like to watch competitive CSGO matches. RIP NIP. |
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 8 2016, 04:25 PM) ala the pro gaming scene isnt so bad ma, but as the expansions came out and added more skills hp/buttons etc, i think to the layman (technically i am as well since i've quit WoW for so long) it seems a bit... well, people just wouldn't understand what's going on and i guess the perception of just LOS aka pillar humping going on. Haha I think WoW arena very unpopular as an esport because most people dunno what the hell is going on How are you liking Overwatch? |
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dota where got only 4 buttons? got more than that
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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 8 2016, 04:35 PM) Haha I think WoW arena very unpopular as an esport because most people dunno what the hell is going on overwatch...might as well play cs. need to buy somemore.How are you liking Overwatch? |
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 8 2016, 04:39 PM) The problem with mouseover is you have to use your mouse to move over target frames or whatever, that means you can't use your mouse to direct your character for that moment.It's ok for things like sheep or casted skills where you have to stay still, but if you're gonna macro other stuff might as well macro everything lol. QUOTE(GnomeMage @ Jul 8 2016, 04:22 PM) You have to remember WoW movement is WASD kinda like FPS games. Imagine if you're playing CS, running around, using your mouse to help you direct your character but you need to keep moving your mouse to click stuff on the side, it's just way less efficient. Plus it's also much faster to just click a macro hotkey to use skill on target 1/2/3 versus moving your mouse to the target frame then hitting a button.This post has been edited by silic0sis: Jul 8 2016, 04:50 PM |
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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 8 2016, 04:35 PM) Haha I think WoW arena very unpopular as an esport because most people dunno what the hell is going on ok la, something new, and of course the weab factor lolHow are you liking Overwatch? just spam die die die lel well, its the game most played by my friend list atm, so oh well cough up rm160 lo... and ugh, actually more because buying new mic la... new mouse la... thinking of getting a roccat alumic, but heard that's no longer available. my razer vespula already separating a bit on the edge, and a new same mouse pad is like 159 now :/ i like a wrist rest on my home pc so ya, choice almost non existent minus the vespula. looking into gsync monitors too, and lol the cost. i could just settle for a 144hz monitor... but hmm... don't know... that saves me at least 1k by not going gsync :/ |
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QUOTE(GnomeMage @ Jul 8 2016, 04:37 PM) Nope. Very different. OW is quick fast and fun as fuark.QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 8 2016, 04:39 PM) The time you take to move your cursor over your target is quite significant compared to a press of a key Something like, difference between clicking counter spell and keybinding counter spell. |
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QUOTE(silic0sis @ Jul 8 2016, 04:44 PM) The problem with mouseover is you have to use your mouse to move over target frames or whatever, that means you can't use your mouse to direct your character for that moment. your current target don't need a mouse over all the time la, already selected what.It's ok for things like sheep or casted skills where you have to stay still, but if you're gonna macro other stuff might as well macro everything lol. and there's the joke over tot/tott etc (healers should be very well aware, but that expanded to dps'ers too, eg to peel/assist) and implying people don't use macro/keybinds in WoW. you do know that there's an in game macro binding right? |
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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 8 2016, 04:48 PM) The time you take to move your cursor over your target is quite significant compared to a press of a key people generally still do la as:Something like, difference between clicking counter spell and keybinding counter spell. 1) 3 keys vs 1 key 2) if you can play overwatch/fps you most certainly can aim a name play in a flick 3) i was a rogue your click vs keybind is different because: click = click spell, click on target keybind is 1 press, right? mouse over is the same, 1 press. only difference is that no target is pre assigned unlike binding 3 keys just to have 3 targets assigned for one spell. |
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 8 2016, 04:50 PM) your current target don't need a mouse over all the time la, already selected what. Yeah but to do mouseover means you need to move your mouse over something, that means you can't use your mouse to navigate.and there's the joke over tot/tott etc (healers should be very well aware, but that expanded to dps'ers too, eg to peel/assist) and implying people don't use macro/keybinds in WoW. you do know that there's an in game macro binding right? I'm not sure what your argument is, that mouseover is just as efficient as macro skill on target1/2/3? Not sure how you can argue that. If you are arguing that it's still viable to mouseover, then yes I agree it's viable, but you have to agree that it is less efficient, which is my point and the reason we have so many hotkeys. This post has been edited by silic0sis: Jul 8 2016, 04:57 PM |
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QUOTE(silic0sis @ Jul 8 2016, 04:56 PM) Yeah but to do mouseover means you need to move your mouse over something, that means you can't use your mouse to navigate. I'm not sure what your argument is, that mouseover is just as efficient as macro skill on target1/2/3? Not sure how you can argue that. If you are arguing that it's still viable to mouseover, then yes I agree it's viable, but you have to agree that it is less efficient, which is my point and the reason we have so many hotkeys. random trip down nostalgia *disclaimer: someone else's video, im not as pro lol* why you need to use your mouse to navigate? kan awsd? unless you want to 180 quick scope your rear? in arenas chances are you have full video of all your enemies and those that aren't in your screen, chances are (again i'm a rogue, being melee) you can't reach them anyways. it sure as hell doesn't take long for me to flick my mouse cursor to hover over a target and press one button, vs making up 3 buttons to for 3 different targets. unless you can code an algorithm into it and consolidate it into 1 button, in which blizz would say hello to you probably but yes, avg WoW players even at the PVE scene do have a shit ton of hotkeys, whether they use all of them or not (from the video i post, a lot of those "keys" are just macro "placeholders" like i do mine.) is another matter but it will surely dwarf any moba scene/player when it comes to hotkeys that's for sure |
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 8 2016, 05:11 PM) it sure as hell doesn't take long for me to flick my mouse cursor to hover over a target and press one button, vs making up 3 buttons to for 3 different targets. unless you can code an algorithm into it and consolidate it into 1 button, in which blizz would say hello to you probably But which is quicker? Flicking your mouse to hover and pressing one button, or just pressing one button? That's basically what you are arguing lol. If having more hotkeys isn't an issue, then why not do it?Reckful has 1/2/3 hotkeys also in that video. Rogue probably has the fewest hotkeys of all wow charas. Healers have the most hotkeys, I think my warrior had like 65, my shaman in cata had 80 or something. Edit: Actually I think in reckful's vid those are target 1/2/3 and focus 1/2/3. So he'd have to use 2 hotkeys, but not have to flick his mouse. This post has been edited by silic0sis: Jul 8 2016, 05:20 PM |
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QUOTE(silic0sis @ Jul 8 2016, 05:13 PM) But which is quicker? Flicking your mouse to hover and pressing one button, or just pressing one button? That's basically what you are arguing lol. If having more hotkeys isn't an issue, then why not do it? if your additional buttons are in "not so convenient places" i would actually argue that the flicking mouse method being quicker because you'd be wondering if people aiming a gun and then shooting it being slow.Reckful has 1/2/3 hotkeys also in that video. Rogue probably has the fewest hotkeys of all wow charas. Healers have the most hotkeys, I think my warrior had like 65, my shaman in cata had 80 or something. Edit: Actually I think in reckful's vid those are target 1/2/3 and focus 1/2/3. So he'd have to use 2 hotkeys, but not have to flick his mouse. yes, you could also argue people actually buy mmo mouse (lol razer naga) and get used to it. but afaik majority of pro WoW players don't use it and afaik also majority of rogue player at least uses the mouse over method which iinm same goes for reckful. but if you're gonna say pressing 2 hotkeys vs a mouse flick... uh. not to mention, it isn't just blind being the only target/tot/focus useful skill, considering how he pulled so many clutch smoke bomb (aoe ground aim lol)/gouge/saps/kicks. would be a keybinding nightmare don't you think? well, you could assign any name/macro icons so personally i'm not gonna speculate further la. |
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