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post Jun 28 2016, 10:31 AM

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Do not buy any car without Electronic Stability Control. Period. I understand City have it but not sure about Vios
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4-Lbt8KHkw
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post Jun 28 2016, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 28 2016, 10:48 AM)
i get how esc works and yeah its great and all, but purely from that video's standpoint, he lost control on purpose, in that particular case he very obviously forced the car to do that..... great way to emphasize the uses of esc but.... when i see videos like this, it seems like im being lied to~ ohmy.gif
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He did it on purpose and yet can't flip the car.

But what if you are driving on a highway and a box dropped off a lorry right in front into your path, then you will be doing exactly what he is doing but in an emergency.

There is a reason why since 2014 it's illegal to sell new car without ESC in Europe.
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post Jun 28 2016, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 28 2016, 11:09 AM)
about the flipping part, that really depends on the car itself...... suspension setup and all that has to be taken into consideration.... to do a fair test you need 2 of the same cars one with vcs/ecs one with none

There is a reason why since 2014 it's illegal to sell new car without ESC in Europe. not gona argue with this, but all im saying is, that video is very erm... exaggerated?? proton's live demonstrations are probably a better example of why ecs is important


main point is all these systems keep you in control, thats it... end of the day its there to keep your pointed in the direction you desire
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Even newer cheap Proton have ESC. So see no reason to get a more expensive new car that comes without.

If you want to get a car without ABS or ESC or whatever, up to you.

People don't buy a car and deliberately go looking for accident. Those system are there just in case you are in difficult situations.


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post Jun 28 2016, 11:23 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8KjsjrIGqI

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post Jun 28 2016, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 28 2016, 11:29 AM)
ehh dont get me wrong abang~ im critisising the video!! not esc!!..... im just saying thats an exagerated video thats all~~
now this video me like~ no silly exaggerated flipping of cars/funny stuff happening, simple, clearcut
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It's common to exaggerate something when one wanted to make a point but the important thing is, is the point valid? I find you shooting the messenger instead of focusing on the message.

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post Jun 28 2016, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 28 2016, 11:40 AM)
nuuuuu.... owait... might be cause that was fifthgear... which reminded me of top gear.... which reminded me of the old top gear.....  cry.gif
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I am sure in many of the accidents in Malaysia safety system like ABS and ESP would have helped in sizable number of those accidents but of course not all. If both cars cost similar amount money there is no reason to choose one without.


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post Jun 28 2016, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 28 2016, 12:06 PM)
i know i would have benefited from abs on my old car.....  bye.gif would have really been useful~~ rain + smooth roads = locked brakes
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If you think ABS is good then ESC would be fantastic because it incorporate ABS plus Traction Control.

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post Jun 28 2016, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(stargamer @ Jun 27 2016, 11:35 PM)
Honda airbags safe or not? takata airbag got problem, u better check first
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Many car manufacturers have this problem, even Toyota.

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post Jul 3 2016, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Jul 3 2016, 12:23 PM)
Proton Perdana 2.0 low spec does not come with ESP whistling.gif
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Does the cheap Proton Iriz comes with ESP?
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post Jul 4 2016, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Jul 3 2016, 11:15 PM)
Don't contradict yourself bro
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Is Iriz new?
Is Iriz cheap?

 

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