Hi all lovely people

I am currently on a first gen proton persona (2008/2009?) and am interested to change it since it is giving me lots of problems already.

I currently have my mind on Toyota Vios and Honda City because they are within my budget and have been trying to figuring out which is better and gives the best bang for buck. Any recommendations which should I get? Or is there better car within my budget that I missed out?

Thank you so much! )

Honda city .. overall is better with 6 airbags

go for honda jazz
cheapest compact car in peninsular

Mazda 2 ??

Honda airbags safe or not? takata airbag got problem, u better check first

i just bought Vios recently since the offer so attracting. 11k from Salesman + Free Gift DVD etc etc.. Honda city only free petrol, umbrella etc ( depends on salesman)

both also nice car if you compare current version = Honda City > Vios. If not rush to buy, wait few more months ba, New version Vios with New engine, CVT coming soon.

Good Luck

Of course city, why buy a underspec cow head car.

test drive urself
base on spec honda city sure win

lol... so many thread on this topic... city vs vios....

pls no matter what... go for city.... period....

no need ask why or know why since you dont bother to compare whats the diff between these two cars....

Do not buy any car without Electronic Stability Control. Period. I understand City have it but not sure about Vios
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4-Lbt8KHkw

i get how esc works and yeah its great and all, but purely from that video's standpoint, he lost control on purpose, in that particular case he very obviously forced the car to do that..... great way to emphasize the uses of esc but.... when i see videos like this, it seems like im being lied to~

i quote some random dude: In 10 car crashes, 6 of them are with cars NOT older than 5 years, so they have all possible electronic assist. That made me the conclusion that driving experience and responsibility are much much safer assists than electronic assist

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Jun 28 2016, 10:57 AM

He did it on purpose and yet can't flip the car.

But what if you are driving on a highway and a box dropped off a lorry right in front into your path, then you will be doing exactly what he is doing but in an emergency.

There is a reason why since 2014 it's illegal to sell new car without ESC in Europe.

about the flipping part, that really depends on the car itself...... suspension setup and all that has to be taken into consideration.... to do a fair test you need 2 of the same cars one with vcs/ecs one with none

There is a reason why since 2014 it's illegal to sell new car without ESC in Europe. not gona argue with this, but all im saying is, that video is very erm... exaggerated?? proton's live demonstrations are probably a better example of why ecs is important


main point is all these systems keep you in control, thats it... end of the day its there to keep your pointed in the direction you desire

Even newer cheap Proton have ESC. So see no reason to get a more expensive new car that comes without.

If you want to get a car without ABS or ESC or whatever, up to you.

People don't buy a car and deliberately go looking for accident. Those system are there just in case you are in difficult situations.


This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jun 28 2016, 11:27 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8KjsjrIGqI

ehh dont get me wrong abang~ im critisising the video!! not esc!!..... im just saying thats an exagerated video thats all~~


now this video me like~ no silly exaggerated flipping of cars/funny stuff happening, simple, clearcut

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Jun 28 2016, 11:31 AM

It's common to exaggerate something when one wanted to make a point but the important thing is, is the point valid? I find you shooting the messenger instead of focusing on the message.

nuuuuu.... owait... might be cause that was fifthgear... which reminded me of top gear.... which reminded me of the old top gear.....

I am sure in many of the accidents in Malaysia safety system like ABS and ESP would have helped in sizable number of those accidents but of course not all. If both cars cost similar amount money there is no reason to choose one without.

i know i would have benefited from abs on my old car..... would have really been useful~~ rain + smooth roads = locked brakes