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post Jul 2 2016, 09:49 PM

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Congratulations on new thread. xD
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Finally registered my self for padi OWD with diverse borneo. Going pulau sapi next week. Hopefully all goes well.
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post Jul 3 2016, 08:43 AM

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Ermmmm.... pulau sapi corals are dead.......
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post Jul 3 2016, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(DrBarbarian @ Jul 3 2016, 08:43 AM)
Ermmmm.... pulau sapi corals are dead.......
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havent they been dead for a while? the last news i could pull up was from 09 reporting as such...

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post Jul 3 2016, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(ukiya @ Jul 2 2016, 09:35 PM)
Big sting ray should be Jenkins' whipray.
This big guy always wandering around Perhentian one... He loved stay around De lagoon usually ... been spotted here couple of times edy...
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Yes, D Lagoon. Turtle and dunno what Ray... Haha.
And spotted a lot of small sharks at beach Infront coral bay resort while snorkeling.. And some fish bite me...
Pinnacle current was strong. Haven start to dive already get exhausted because of need to kick hard to the dive point before descend.
Found when my weight is just good at starting. After my tank go less then 35bar. my buoyancy go positive and I can't manage to stop ascend. can't stop at safety stop.
Next dive need add weight then..
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post Jul 3 2016, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(KiraTomaru @ Jul 3 2016, 11:18 AM)
havent they been dead for a while? the last news i could pull up was from 09 reporting as such...
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Too bad...At D lagoon perhentian. I had pick up a instant noodles cup under the seabed surrounded with corals. Dive leader show me a tumb. 😁
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QUOTE(DrBarbarian @ Jul 3 2016, 08:43 AM)
Ermmmm.... pulau sapi corals are dead.......
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OWD in confine beach.. lotsa corals.. dead ones

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post Jul 3 2016, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(kentmeng @ Jul 3 2016, 02:01 PM)
Too bad...At D lagoon perhentian. I had pick up a instant noodles cup under the seabed surrounded with corals. Dive leader show me a tumb. 😁
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well bully for you,cleaning the ocean 1 instant noodle cup at a time thumbsup.gif

theres your second thumb tongue.gif

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post Jul 3 2016, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(kentmeng @ Jul 3 2016, 01:56 PM)
Yes, D Lagoon. Turtle and dunno what Ray... Haha.
And spotted a lot of small sharks at beach Infront coral bay resort while snorkeling.. And some fish bite me...
Pinnacle current was strong. Haven start to dive already get exhausted because of need to kick hard to the dive point before descend.
Found when my weight is just good at starting. After my tank go less then 35bar. my buoyancy go positive and I can't manage to stop ascend. can't stop at safety stop.
Next dive need add weight then..
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Why wait until you have 35bar? cowboy style diving?
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QUOTE(kentmeng @ Jul 3 2016, 03:56 PM)
Found when my weight is just good at starting. After my tank go less then 35bar. my buoyancy go positive and I can't manage to stop ascend. can't stop at safety stop.
Next dive need add weight then..
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To give you an idea how much weight you need to add...
Every 10 bars of air in that tank weighs ~ 140g
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QUOTE(vmt @ Jul 3 2016, 11:23 PM)
Why wait until you have 35bar? cowboy style diving?
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When my tank left 40bars. Instructor already know. Besides, I'm already near to safety stop level. About depth less then 8meters. And many pro divers around me. So, no worry, just keep hanging around to finish tank. Haha. But who knows it goes positive buoyancy. ==

if in uncomfortable environment, sure I will make early ascend and will not plan to finish my tank. Haha.

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post Jul 4 2016, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(kentmeng @ Jul 4 2016, 12:56 AM)
When my tank left 40bars. Instructor already know. Besides, I'm already near to safety stop level. About depth less then 8meters. And many pro divers around me. So, no worry, just keep hanging around to finish tank. Haha. But who knows it goes positive buoyancy. ==

if in uncomfortable environment, sure I will make early ascend and will not plan to finish my tank. Haha.
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It seemed you have the misconception of 'finish the tank' mindset. First off you need to get the concept right: the tank is not meant to be finished. Finished tank translates to finished life. It does not matter how comfortable or uncomfortable the environment is to you

Secondly, most probably you are just tired from the dive and not exhaling as much air as you did during earlier stage of your dive. The remnant air inside your lung will expand as you gradually ascend, and when you realised you are ascending uncontrollably, you'd try harder to exhale, which in turn will made you pant even more, and before you knew it you are already at surface. Probably it's better to give up and check if there are boat above you. I used to be like that, at a point I'm going down with 6kg and I still helicopter. Last I dive, I was trying to control my breathing and reduce the weight I carry gradually over a few dives, which I informed the dm. Last dive I used 4kg (later dm added another half kg to my tank since she's not entirely confident with me hehe) and did fine with complete safety stop.
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QUOTE(kentmeng @ Jul 3 2016, 01:56 PM)
Yes, D Lagoon. Turtle and dunno what Ray... Haha.
And spotted a lot of small sharks at beach Infront coral bay resort while snorkeling.. And some fish bite me...
Pinnacle current was strong. Haven start to dive already get exhausted because of need to kick hard to the dive point before descend.
Found when my weight is just good at starting. After my tank go less then 35bar. my buoyancy go positive and I can't manage to stop ascend. can't stop at safety stop.
Next dive need add weight then..
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Didn't your instructor teach you proper weighting? Conduct a weight check during the end of your checkout dive if you have not been diving for a while. Especially if you gained/lost (body)weight.

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QUOTE(vmt @ Jul 4 2016, 01:46 AM)
It seemed you have the misconception of 'finish the tank' mindset. First off you need to get the concept right: the tank is not meant to be finished. Finished tank translates to finished life. It does not matter how comfortable or uncomfortable the environment is to you

Secondly, most probably you are just tired from the dive and not exhaling as much air as you did during earlier stage of your dive. The remnant air inside your lung will expand as you gradually ascend, and when you realised you are ascending uncontrollably, you'd try harder to exhale, which in turn will made you pant even more, and before you knew it you are already at surface. Probably it's better to give up and check if there are boat above you. I used to be like that, at a point I'm going down with 6kg and I still helicopter. Last I dive, I was trying to control my breathing and reduce the weight I carry gradually over a few dives, which I informed the dm. Last dive I used 4kg (later dm added another half kg to my tank since she's not entirely confident with me hehe) and did fine with complete safety stop.
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Thank,
actually I plan to do a finish tank training after I got this situation. On the right time, right divers, right place. And there are more then 4 DM that time. Haha.
But I don't think I have this chance anymore.
I have 0 weight belt needed. Buoyancy are good at first 2 dives. On last dive, luckily I use up my air fast and I notice I need add weight to prevent positive buoyancy while I'm low on air.
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QUOTE(TAGreptiles @ Jul 4 2016, 02:08 AM)
Didn't your instructor teach you proper weighting? Conduct a weight check during the end of your checkout dive if you have not been diving for a while. Especially if you gained/lost (body)weight.
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Yup, but I just bought new sets of equipments, so I need to do every check and test myself again. And will get advice from instructor. Thanks.

In case an accident happen in deep underwater and I got low on air. Positive buoyancy will not happen. Else.... Hehe. Anyway, still a lot things to learn to pair with my new sets.

Just to inform myself I need to consider the buoyancy while my air is low. Do a weight check on low air tank as well.
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post Jul 4 2016, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(kentmeng @ Jul 4 2016, 08:52 AM)
Yup, but I just bought new sets of equipments, so I need to do every check and test myself again. And will get advice from instructor. Thanks.

In case an accident happen in deep underwater and I got low on air. Positive buoyancy will not happen. Else.... Hehe. Anyway, still a lot things to learn to pair with my new sets.

Just to inform myself I need to consider the buoyancy while my air is low. Do a weight check on low air tank as well.
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Try to avoid low on air situations unless you are already doing your safety stop.
In general shops do not like people to finish their air as well because water might go into the tank, or so I've been told.

Generally I find it harder to maintain buoyancy at 3m. I normally stay at 5m and fool around.

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post Jul 4 2016, 10:13 AM

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huh huh ... so fast v999999 alrdy ah ...

what's up guys, what's the discussion today about ?
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post Jul 4 2016, 10:28 AM

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Any last minute raya trip I can tag alonggg?
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QUOTE(kentmeng @ Jul 4 2016, 08:52 AM)
Yup, but I just bought new sets of equipments, so I need to do every check and test myself again. And will get advice from instructor. Thanks.

In case an accident happen in deep underwater and I got low on air. Positive buoyancy will not happen. Else.... Hehe. Anyway, still a lot things to learn to pair with my new sets.

Just to inform myself I need to consider the buoyancy while my air is low. Do a weight check on low air tank as well.
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how low is low ?

in case of accident uw, i dont think ur buoyancy are related anymore ... hmmmm doesnt work this way ?
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QUOTE(kentmeng @ Jul 4 2016, 08:39 AM)
Thank,
actually I plan to do a finish tank training after I got this situation. On the right time, right divers, right place. And there are more then 4 DM that time. Haha.
But I don't think I have this chance anymore.
I have 0 weight belt needed. Buoyancy are good at first 2 dives. On last dive, luckily I use up my air fast and I notice I need add weight to prevent positive buoyancy while I'm low on air.
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Sounds awfully dangerous to try this out unless you have briefed everyone in the team and there are specific signals to show that you are seriously in trouble. Response time to help you will need to be immediate. No longer banging for help. .... icon_question.gif

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