Hello every sifus here, can I find out with you all what is the difference of Origins(Japan/Korea) vs Indonesia/Thailand made tyres ?

Referring to
Bridgestone Potenza RE003 & Hankook S1 Noble2 .

Need all sifu advice plz.


This post has been edited by lilfunky: Jun 23 2016, 07:50 AM

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Japan make quality tyre, compare indonesia or china make with lousy quality control. Rubber material also different

Perhaps some tyre experts here can comment but my preference in quality of tyres in accordance with country of manufacture is as follows, with the first being the highest quality :-

1. Japan
2. Thailand
3. Malaysia
4. Indonesia
5. China (try to avoid)

Don't know about Korea and not sure where does it fit in though.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Jun 24 2016, 01:05 PM

One thing I noticed my car Indo tyres turn brown during hot days.

Thanks for all review but any review regard hankook? From korea

Thanks for all review but any review regard hankook? From korea

I'm using Hankook S1 Noble 2 215 45 17 made in indonesia 3000km only. Everything is ok except chipping on tyre side thread. Wondering the compound or the material used.
My experience using hankook V8 and V12 doesn't having this problem all made in Korea.

Mine Noble 2 so far so good after 10k KM, also made in indo. you can try to claim warranty...

i have re003 from thai and noble2 from indo

you are comparing two different tayars so it is difficult to tell the differences. i will not comment on the compound because this depends on the brand so i'm only comparing the manufacturing quality.

in term of visual quality, not much difference to be honest. indo made is not so bad but thai made is my pick after japan.

worst is china made. had a goodyear from china last time. even the flying shoe logo cannot be distinguished.

The tyre shop said road condition , wheel spinning and hard cornering la. I said why my previous tyre no problem they said because the material problem. So many excuse. My wife only city drive, bring children to school.
Now contact with hankook distributor and see how.



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this happened to my previous Continental ContiMaxContact MC5. Hard rubber compound is the reason for chipping + hard cornering

For me, no difference in quality between my 2 sets of Hankook tyres, Prime2 from Korea and Noble2 from Indonesia, both equally good in terms of manufacturing quality.

iPhones are made in China.
Sony RX100 was made in Japan, then later in China, still the same quality.

Michelin PS3, made in Thailand, and made for SEA conditions, weather etc.
Parallel imported German made PS3, tends to chip or deteriorate faster.

Then again, these are all generalizations, and other brands/tyres may buck this trend.

Country of origin to me is less important than overall brand quality and whether they are produced and approved for the locale it is sold in.

Yup agree with this! I've used well known branded but Indo, China, and Thai made tires, all no significant difference in terms of built quality! All last and performed as expected, no complains whatsoever. The branding is most important, just avoid those China/unknown brands, but not branded made in China/Indo. FYI Indo made tires actually would/should be tougher coz the driving environment there is much worse: hotter, a LOT more pot holes and much rougher asphalt and joints! Long time ago I had seen Michelin made in France that cannot last and chipped badly when driven in Indonesia but yet the Indo/Thai made tires performed well as expected in such condition.

i was told years ago that Malaysian rubbers are the best, par none. Shouldn't it then translate to Malaysian made tyres being better compared to other countries?

On another note, can the consumers see the country of origin on the side of the tyre?

My Conti CC5, made in Malaysia. last time also chip at the corners like no body business. So I dont know. Im blaming it on soft compound. Rite now only mange to drive less than 1000km. Hankook kinergy EX at the rear is so much more silent than the old chipped n harden CC5 at the front.

Most tyres manufactured, are they using synthetic rubber, or natural rubber? i'd guess that natural rubber would cost more, correct?

Don't know about Malaysian rubber but making good tires is not just about having good rubber! There are a lot of complex technology that goes with it.

Yes you can easily spot the country of origin on the side, but like I said the brand is way more important than the country.

malaysia rubber are export grade. so the one used for manufacture here are ____________
anyway there are much factors beside country.

Make sense... So , it is about that brand itself.. If cap ayam brand made in USA, it is still cap ayam...

Are there any OEM tyres sold in malaysia? What are the brands?

ya. china very lousy. pirelli is owned by china company. bmw merc porsche uses pirelli. sooo damn lousy!

Pirelli made in Italy ,Germany or Britain still very very high performance, that y you only see those super luxury sport car can use Pirelli, no other brand!

but China made Pirelli....i dunno


As we know...Proton for export, come with ABS Air bags as standard spec..
Proton for malaysian, Base line or Kosong...

1 question even though this thread is quite outdated. i had to change my tyres all 4 pieces to potenza re003 Thailand made with a price of rm320 per piece . the shop is somewhere in sungai petani. what can i say is the price is too low compared to what i have been researched for previous months. any possibilities of fake tires?

Never heard of fake tires. There are only retreaded used tires.
What size is your RE003?

that is spec/model

not quality

its 215/45/17
normally i surveyed within klang valley the price range around rm430 - rm500+

RE003 size 215/45/17 is already cheap between 300-350 only. See example below:
http://www.mudah.my/Tayar+baru+2154517+bri...03-55774718.htm

Those who offered you 400-500 were trying to rip you off!

thanks for the enlightment. i'm aware of that now
i dont know whether the tyre origin will reflect the price or not. eg some tokey offered me with so called japan re003 (forgot the size) with the price of rm500+ while i can get wayy cheaper thai made re003

No need to buy Japan made one la, it's still about the same. Even if different it won't warrant such big price difference. I don't think this tire is available in Japan too. Japan made Potenza is usually the S001 which is expensive.

So it should be brand > country manufactured. Agreed?

agree.but as long it is the brand is original,the country manufactured doesnt matter.
for example compare pirelli china to landsail/lionsport china or corsa indonesia sure pirelli is better although those china pirelli are not top range tyres.

But the argument would be... the work ethic and adhering to standards is more prevalent to those europeans, whereas asians are more inclined to cut corners. This holds water?

Even so, the difference should not be too much because they still have to hold a certain std for the brand and the model manufactured. So maybe PS4 made in Thailand might be slightly lesser than PS4 made in Europe but it's still a PS4 that would be superior to Bridgestone S001 made in Japan or Continental CPC5 made in Europe for example. So the brand and model is far more important than the manufacturing country. In fact when I'm buying tires, I almost never pay attention to where they're made! I've used GY F1D5 made in China before and they perform well as expected. I've used Potenza made in Indonesia too and they also performed well as expected.

Now if you have a choice between PS4 made in Thailand vs PS4 made in France for example but the one made in France is 25-30% more expensive just because of that, which one would you buy? For me it's a no brainer, I'd buy the cheaper Thailand made PS4 because the difference in quality or performance would not warrant such price difference.

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