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post Jun 30 2016, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jun 30 2016, 03:31 PM)
I heard this 2 days ago at one of the Honda dealers, the sales manager screaming on top of her lungs to her salesman "FASTER GET THAT CIVIC OFF THE TRAILER GO PDI THAT CAR, DIFFICULT CUSTOMER WANT IT URGENTLY..!!!" ph34r.gif

And being first batch, later got problem customers fell short of blaming their impatience and blame honda instead for crappy quality...  laugh.gif
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Ahhhla... as usual la. The customer is always right. Rush so much that even during PDI found problem also dun dare fix first. Handover car then tell customer come back service center later. And they close down for raya too.

End up, customer kena trolled only. Haha
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post Jun 30 2016, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(reloadedprimus @ Jun 30 2016, 03:43 PM)
Are they completely cool that we just come wash our cars and not do any coating from them ? some shops i encountered if i dont buy their packages or so they like not very happy.
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Business is business la. Sometimes you know they are at peak period doing lots of big business, you don't go kacau them with your RM60/month car wash which they don't make extra money from la.

Even if they do, nanti cincai wash pulak you not happy kan? When they no business, i am sure they will be very grateful you give them "car wash only" business also lo.

Sell extra service is part of their job, if you don't take up the extra service. There is no point they turn sour la.

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post Jun 30 2016, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 30 2016, 04:13 PM)
Ah, learnt a new term today hehe.

Correct, emulate the traditional shifting where rev goes up and down as the ratio changes. I'm familiar with CVT transmission (Teana and City), both have some sort of "sport" mode where the rpm would stay at much higher side. But this Civic been watching the 0-60 videos, seems like setting to S emulates the traditional shifting (like fixed ratio, but then again knowing it is CVT it is probably just switching the ratio quickly LOL).

CVT style should pick up much quicker than when emulating traditional shifting.
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I need to go get a test drive soon. It sounds interesting from the way you describe it.

CVT is actually a more superior technology if not for some technical issues. Even F1 considered using it once before it was outrightly banned after they seen the Williams FW15C with it.

The concept is very simple, we used to have conventional 3 speed, 4 speed with overdrive, 5 speed, 6 speed, 7 speed and nowadays 8 speed in some lexus, beemer and merc. All this is how the manufacturers are trying to create gear ratios that are very close to improve acceleration yet not losing top end speed. So, the idea of CVT is actually correct where the ratio is never fixed and can change throughout the operation accordingly to maximize speed against optimizing power output.

As i say, CVT does come with it's own set of problems but it is not really a major one.

I don't think CVT will be quicker if it locks into pre-fixed ratios and so call "shift through the gears". The concept of CVT is to allow for the engine to run at peak power output and continually adjust the ratio to increase the speed. It is just like not allowing your engine to drop out of VTEC activation or turbine to drop out of optimal turbine speed and induce turbo lag
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post Jun 30 2016, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(cricketboy @ Jun 30 2016, 04:25 PM)
i booked MAR 2016! can accept such a slow process and lousy service!
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Deng! I had to wait 4 months for my Jazz when they launch and my other half had to wait 6 months for her HR-V not long after they launched leh. No discounts, no free gifts, no special anything wei.

End up the HR-V no buy and fast forward 12 months later, not more than 2 weeks she got her car already. The biggest hold up, loan, trade-in and dunno wat other hassle. Car was sitting at dealership apparently just waiting for someone to go press the push start button.

Just accept it la. Who ask u to go buy pre-order cars jeh. You wait another 6 to 8 months when production is up to full speed. You get your car in no time when pegoh is easily churning out 300- 400 FCs per day.

I too learned through stupidity HM is like that. Just accept or buy the car later. Anyways, later maybe have discount somemore.
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post Jun 30 2016, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(SackBoy @ Jun 30 2016, 04:13 PM)
i think i know where is it, the condo behind is exactly where i stay now. hehehe brows.gif
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Stalker spotted.
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post Jun 30 2016, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 30 2016, 04:39 PM)
Yeap, agreed that the CVT more is a much more efficient in picking up vs. when emulating traditional shifting, but was surprised when I was watching those 0-60 videos out there.

Well I only have a very short test drive on a non registered test drive car... will go for a test drive when the hype is down. Still waiting for my car plate.. hopefully by early 2017, sigh Melaka car plate so so so slow. Take this to observe if any issues on this engine too, until then just envy with the owners who have received their cars!  wub.gif
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I don't think the century sprint is anything to shout about la.

But, if they got turbochargers to work properly. I am just hoping it will be a nice car around town driving. Big cars like this sometimes feel very heavy from standstill and low speed acceleration. So, if they manage to get the torque where it matters. It might be sweet.

I know it is a perception thing at the end of the day. But, if done right. I think it makes a difference by having so much torque so early in the rev band. Just need it to feel like a big diesel engine.
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post Jun 30 2016, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(SackBoy @ Jun 30 2016, 04:47 PM)
Yupe, right now this is the must read forum space, all important information and findings and possibly the best sifus are here. Also the best place to stalk civic before i get my hand on my own, just heard news my black car has arrived too, undergoing those usual procedures at dealer side.
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Good luck mate. Who knows JPJ tutup operation on Monday and you'd be screwed.
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post Jun 30 2016, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(Jeff_lwh @ Jun 30 2016, 06:42 PM)
hihihehe

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11) GeekinE90's dad | 1.5 TC-P | Ruby Red - 30/6/16
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post Jul 1 2016, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(pigin @ Jul 1 2016, 09:44 AM)
guys.. you guys have gotten your cars for a while now...

i have a burning question.

when you guys go over humps or bumpy surface..

do you "Feel" like the suspension is setup just nice for the weight of the car?

i have this very insecure feeling that the suspension is crashing whenever i go over badly paved roads or roads with small lubangs.

when the car goes over it you hear a sharper "ting" or "tang" as opposed to a normal "thump" or "dup" like you get in alot of cars.

its not like the suspension is bad.. just the sound of it..

im half awake so i can't really describe the sound but... i hope you guys get it.

just wondering if its engineered that way or just a run-in thing?
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If you are asking if you can drive the car through a bump at 50kph like a Camry can. The answer is no. Not for Civic and not really for Accord to depending on your tolerance.

As for whether it will fail. It won't lar, it is just the way they set the entire system up and the car just happens to feel that way.
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post Jul 4 2016, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Alternation @ Jul 4 2016, 01:59 PM)
Just did my 1st 1000km service. Nothing is changed. Just inspection. SC said oil change only when 'A' is displayed.
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First 1000km is inspection only. That is why only got labour charges or free service.
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post Jul 6 2016, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jul 5 2016, 11:10 PM)
For now, just drive like normal until you see the indicator for oil change, no need headache to figure this out at the moment. This kind of system sure will have a reminder when reach a certain point. Enjoy your new car  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ala, people wanna change oil, u let him change la. How much does it costs for an oil change?

Honda will gladly take ur money. My other honda did an engine oil change on the first service. Usual service plus atf and coolant change on the 2nd service. They also accept mah, jus pay the money.
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post Jul 6 2016, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(jimmychangas @ Jul 6 2016, 05:15 PM)
So today I was watching a video of a Chinese car show reviewing the Civic in China. The one they were reviewing is apparently the full spec model, complete with chrome door handles, LED headlamps and the 17inch sport rims, just like ours.

I also noticed that their Civic is so richly equipped that it also has the full Sensing suite, LaneWatch, rear air-cond vents, movable rear headrests (albeit only on the sides, none on the middle), 60/40 foldable rear seats, and -- get this -- auto start-stop system, with a button to disable it above the ECON button. Now that's something even the fully decked Civic Touring in the US doesn't have.

And the price for all these goodies packed in one Civic? RM107k after converted. I know it's not fair to compare the price like this, but sometimes I wonder, will we ever get such kits for our cars in the future?
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Yes, if majority does not mind paying above rm150k for a civic. Honda has done the research and determined if needed to pay, no one wants those stuff.

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post Jul 11 2016, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 11 2016, 01:50 PM)
Windscreens always get chipped. And your insurance cover for the windscreen lapses even if u don't use it. So might as well use it.
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I think there was a video before comparing factory installed windshields and replacement windshields. Factory installed windshields are purportedly able to lift the car's weight by itself.

So, i don't see the point of purposely breaking your windshields just to make the most of the insurance.

The insurance is just a betting game. If statistically you have managed to claim the windshield in your previous car multiple times. It might be worth having it. If not, just think of saving aside money spend for the premium of the windshield in case it breaks 4 or 5 years down the road.
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post Jul 11 2016, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(hamrog @ Jul 11 2016, 03:45 PM)
Nothing to worry la brother.

So far, I really start putting some kmh into the car, never crossed the mid mark.
Love the fact that I can hit 160 without touching 3000 rpm

Only complaint is that the FC..... really far from advertised.
Maybe i got lead foot.
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Doing 160 and expect us to believe you are light footed?
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post Jul 11 2016, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(hamrog @ Jul 11 2016, 05:44 PM)
too damn easy to go fast in this car without realising it.
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DAMN YOU!

Time for me to get an FK2R

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 11 2016, 05:54 PM)
Noted.

I've been replacing windscreens almost every year since 2004 on my previous cars. And I always get it done at the authorised service centre (Toyota and Kia). BMW will be a first for me in Dec this year.  biggrin.gif
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That is a bit overkill right. I think they should introduce separate NCD for windscreen and hike up the premiums.
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post Jul 12 2016, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Jeffreynsx @ Jul 12 2016, 08:41 AM)
The main reason is the coolant did not comes with 2nd water reserved tank. In a long run, the engine will ruin if there is any broken of hose due to wear and tear.
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You mean overflow reservoir is it? Overflow reservoir is not for you to keep extra coolant la. It is for the overflowing when the coolant temperature goes up and the expansion causes the extra coolant to flow into the reservoir.
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post Jul 12 2016, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(fawked @ Jul 12 2016, 10:24 AM)
I tried all combos mate. I don't see a difference with econ on or off hence my theory that I'm stuck in econ mode forever... cry.gif
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The econ mode got affect the aircond blower one meh? I dun think got so high tech yet la. Blower dun mess with FC anyway. The compressor however, does.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 13 2016, 09:37 AM)
3 important questions which we need clarification for:

1) What guarantee do we have that the new leather seat covers have taken into account the special stitching required for deployment of the side airbags?
2) Would our warranties with Honda Malaysia be affected by this after market leather seat covers?
2) Who is Carbi's leather supplier and what type of leather are we getting? Nowadays imitation leather is so well manufactured that its very difficult to tell the difference
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I believe it is just more than the stitching / sewing. It is also about a special thread that is used on the covers.


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post Jul 13 2016, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(GeekinE90 @ Jul 13 2016, 09:42 AM)
Workmanship is amazing.  Original seats have grey/black stitching.  I think it will look good with Red stitching and bits of Alcantara.  I find Alcantara much more comfortable vs. leather in our climate and it looks fantastic going with leather and red stitches.  Wonder how much it will cost going with Alcantara + leather...

Mercedes AMG Alcantara + Leather + Red stitching:

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2016 Civic Type R - Black alcantara + red stitching at door panels

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Alcantara is somewhat a bad idea unless you are equipping a sports car who will see some competition use.

Alcantara is hard to take care unlike real leather. It will wear faster, have usage signs on it and not to mention inconsistent wear signs especially on the steering. I have an OMP steering which has some parts lighter than the other because it is the part which i usually grab the most. Not to mention, not quite nice to feel when you are sweaty and stuff.

As for pro's. Not sure, i think it is more grip than leather, maybe flame retardant and not sure what else.
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post Jul 13 2016, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 12 2016, 09:15 PM)
Better be careful with dash cams and reverse cams especially with cars controlled by ECU's.

I installed a 3rd reverse cam on my new BMW and it messed up the on board electronics. Had to get it removed. I've now installed the original BMW reverse cam. Cost me RM4,715.

Might not be an issue with the Civic but best get it checked carefully before installation.
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That is why units like Blackvue is becoming more popular nowadays because it doesn't mess with the wiring. It just plugs into the ciggie lighter and that's it.

If you want to see live, use your phone via wifi. Even rear cam also connects with front cam via wifi. Not really good integration, but also doesn't mess with shit in your car.

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