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post Jan 15 2007, 08:58 AM, updated 19y ago

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You took it as personal, didn't you? smile.gif
I have a lot to say about this. Try and shut this one.

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post Jan 15 2007, 09:01 AM

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post Jan 15 2007, 09:04 AM

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post Jan 15 2007, 09:04 AM

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orly?

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post Jan 15 2007, 03:41 PM

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Thread un-invisibled by me.

unknown warrior, please say your piece. You say you have a lot to say but you didn't say anything in your first post.
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post Jan 16 2007, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(fly @ Jan 15 2007, 03:41 PM)
Thread un-invisibled by me.

unknown warrior, please say your piece. You say you have a lot to say but you didn't say anything in your first post.
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Funny, i think i asked the question first. Here's a hint, try reading the title of the thread.
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post Jan 16 2007, 09:49 AM

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unknown warrior, you asked for someone to be assassinated here:-

"why? you think it's funny? i think that moron should be assasinated. rclxms.gif"

That is enough for a 3 day suspension.
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post Jan 16 2007, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(RBR @ Jan 16 2007, 09:49 AM)
unknown warrior, you asked for someone to be assassinated here:-

"why? you think it's funny? i think that moron should be assasinated. rclxms.gif"

That is enough for a 3 day suspension.
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Can anybody die from that kind of statement?
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post Jan 16 2007, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 16 2007, 10:15 AM)
Can anybody die from that kind of statement?

Well, you have no idea who is depressed here. By words that from you, might caused someone behaving wrongly. Please do not judge everyone to be the same level as yours.
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post Jan 16 2007, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Jan 16 2007, 10:18 AM)
Well, you have no idea who is depressed here. By words that from you, might caused someone behaving wrongly. Please do not judge everyone to be the same level as yours.
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If menj actually died from my cursing, i'll happily retract my statement but the way that moron spewd crap, i don't think he'll go down that easily. i can take an educated guess, nobody is that stupid.

btw Who's stupid enough to jump when i say "go jump off the building"? you?

my point exactly.

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post Jan 16 2007, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 16 2007, 10:27 AM)
If menj actually died from my cursing, i'll happily retract my statement but the way that moron spewd crap, i don't think he'll go down that easily. i can take an educated guess, nobody is that stupid.

my point exactly.

Well, I do not know what exactly the story all about. Wait until got people died, ain't that being too late? Perhaps you could show us what exactly the thread happening? I guess many members who reading this, still not really understand the situation. Unless, your thread is serious until being deleted. Then, I think benefits would goes to the person who suspended you. It's their judgement, after all, they are the authority units though. wink.gif

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btw Who's stupid enough to jump when i say "go jump off the building"? you?

To people that under depression, they would seriously go jump off the building as you suggested. dude,... sweat.gif

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post Jan 16 2007, 10:55 AM

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unknown warrior, your argument is baseless. Cursing/swearing and general name calling is against forum rules. Just because nothing happened as a consequence of your actions does not deem your actions appropriate.

Its not just about your particular statement but the general idea behind your statement. If someone should start calling a member of your family <insert really insulting remark here>, and then claim that its not possible for such a statement to be true, would you be happy should we not take action?
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post Jan 16 2007, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Jan 16 2007, 10:41 AM)
Well, I do not know what exactly the story all about. Wait until got people died, ain't that being too late? Perhaps you could show us what exactly the thread happening? I guess many members who reading this, still not really understand the situation. Unless, your thread is serious until being deleted. Then, I think benefits would goes to the person who suspended you. It's their judgement, after all, they are the authority units though.  wink.gif
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Wow! ZOMG! the search function really works! Try it you'll be surprised nod.gif

QUOTE(edifgrto @ Jan 16 2007, 10:41 AM)
To people that under depression, they would seriously go jump off the building as you suggested. dude,... sweat.gif
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Yeah go get depressed, let's see the headlines tomorrow.


QUOTE(se7en @ Jan 16 2007, 10:55 AM)
unknown warrior, your argument is baseless. Cursing/swearing and general name calling is against forum rules. Just because nothing happened as a consequence of your actions does not deem your actions appropriate.

Its not just about your particular statement but the general idea behind your statement. If someone should start calling a member of your family <insert really insulting remark here>, and then claim that its not possible for such a statement to be true, would you be happy should we not take action?
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No my argument is not baseless, heck i didn't even argue anything. All i did was screw menj and menj deserved more than that, try and digest what his opinions are like and how he thinks (www.menj.org), you'll probably thanked me for giving him a piece of my mind on craps like him.

Besides i did not insult any (actual regular nor new) forum members that undeservingly caused my suspension on that day. You know me, i normally take it head on, confronting one to one when the person is online.
Menj wasn't even in the thread that i posted. methaphorically speaking, I was cursing his blog and his website for goodness sake. Thats why it was a figure of speech to me and i echo my stand again, He didn't die. Besides there are some (heartless) forum members who day to day insults other members by claiming they are ever so intelligent and are above all else and insults the victims whole family by posting vast numbers of paragraphs that could amount to a small book and they got away with it. HEck some of mods even support these goons as creative noob whackers and nobody does a thing about it. But here i come posting just a sentence and i got it???? Where's the love man? doh.gif

Secondly,
I would be happy that you don't take any action because IMO, it feeds me. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 16 2007, 11:56 AM

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Oh... for the foremost(or the simplicity) reasonable reason, ZTP already enough to put you in suspension! whistling.gif


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post Jan 16 2007, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Jan 16 2007, 11:56 AM)
Oh... for the foremost(or the simplicity) reasonable reason, ZTP already enough to put you in suspension!  whistling.gif
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Define, what you understand by ZTP? and try and link that to my post. rclxms.gif
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post Jan 16 2007, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 16 2007, 12:05 PM)
Define, what you understand by ZTP? and try and link that to my post.  rclxms.gif

unknown warriorr: "why? you think it's funny? i think that moron should be assasinated. rclxms.gif"

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RWI is for mature and orderly discussions, not for one line 'kopitiam' style replies. Immediate 3 days suspension for violation



Enough logic?! hmm.gif

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post Jan 16 2007, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Jan 16 2007, 12:08 PM)
unknown warriorr: "why? you think it's funny? i think that moron should be assasinated. rclxms.gif"

versus

Zero Tolerance Policy
RWI is for mature and orderly discussions, not for one line 'kopitiam' style replies. Immediate 3 days suspension for violation



Enough logic?!  hmm.gif
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try explaining in your own words instead of copy and paste and do a emoticon. doh.gif
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post Jan 16 2007, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 16 2007, 12:12 PM)
try explaining in your own words instead of copy and paste and do a emoticon.  doh.gif

Rule is there. No more words to describe it. It's clear enough for everyone to understand. Your this thread would end up closed. If you keep denying it.

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post Jan 16 2007, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Jan 16 2007, 12:19 PM)
Rule is there. No more words to describe it. It's clear enough for everyone to understand. Your this thread would end up closed. If you keep denying it.

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Then i guess you should be suspended too? no?

ZOMG! post no#3

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post Jan 16 2007, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 16 2007, 12:26 PM)
Then i guess you should be suspended too? no?

ZOMG!  post no#3
hmm mm,... if only you report me! And the authority units think it reasonable to put me suspended. I very happy to accept that! My fault, I admitted it happily! tongue.gif Now is because you go and search for my posts.

By the way, that thread originally from Kopitiam(later being transferred to RWI)! Hence, it's not enough evidence to charge me yet. You are welcome to search my other posts... blush.gif

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post Jan 16 2007, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Jan 16 2007, 12:33 PM)
hmm mm,... if only you report me! And the authority units think it reasonable to put me suspended. I very happy to accept that! My fault, I admitted it happily! tongue.gif Now is because you go and search for my posts.

By the way, that thread originally from Kopitiam(later being transferred to RWI)! Hence, it's not enough evidence to charge me yet. You are welcome to search my other posts... blush.gif
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Orly?

ZOMG! Post 413

My point is, you're no different doh.gif , so shove back your "holier than thou" attitude back to your self. Besides you're not the "authorities" rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif



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post Jan 16 2007, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 16 2007, 12:45 PM)
Orly?

ZOMG! Post 413

My point is, you're no different  doh.gif , so shove back your "holier than thou" attitude back to your self. Besides you're not the "authorities"  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

It's kind of loser for the way you doing? Please do note when was ZTP was implemented. Your this thread lose its original meaning. From a complaint of your logic. You are found guilty. Now you are doing the other way round.

Dude,... you are talking with me, edifgrto. As i said earlier, if it's my fault. I admit it willingly. That is no need for you to push the ball round and round.


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post Jan 16 2007, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Jan 16 2007, 12:53 PM)
It's kind of loser for the way you doing? Please do note when was ZTP was implemented. Your this thread lose its original meaning. From a complaint of your logic. You are found guilty. Now you are doing the other way round.

Dude,... you are talking with me, edifgrto. As i said earlier, if it's my fault. I admit it willingly. That is no need for you to push the ball round and round.
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Fyi,

RWI had always been practising ZTP, just that it never been put into a header as a warning.

I don't know what's wrong with you but i would politely like you to just scram. Thank you.

Se7en, i'm just requesting that you take out the warning as i still believe it's unjustified. Anyway i have half in mind to just close this thread since "you are talking with me, edifgrto" seems to enjoy crapping here. doh.gif

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erm. threating to kill somebody can never be justified in the first place. Life is more than forcing people to take our own views of the system, let alone our stand, in what ever manner or circumstance.
Even though this is a free country, we still have laws that are governed, even in cyberspace.

Personally I think admins or mods did a good job.
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QUOTE(pakcikDriver @ Jan 16 2007, 01:42 PM)
erm. threating to kill somebody can never be justified in the first place. Life is more than forcing people to take our own views of the system, let alone our stand, in what ever manner or circumstance.
Even though this is a free country, we still have laws that are governed, even in cyberspace.

Personally I think admins or mods did a good job.
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Bla! Bla! Bla!
Great Scott! Another person lost on Lost island. Hey don't mind if i just point out that you just shot yourself in the foot. Try post something more relevant or something that actually surrounds the gist of what this thread is really about? doh.gif

Here let me illustrate what i meant, Read the 3rd paragraph counting from the last at the bottom* (*before comments). There's the word assasination in it. Try and see if that actually meant killing anyone.

Click!

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Edifgrto, lay off the rhetoric arguments here. If you feel like taking this on further with dear unknown here, do it in Kopitiam with him or better still start a missive by PM'ing him, unless you do have some dissatisfaction which you are hiding behind quotes and examples.

As for unknown, I don't know from the head begins and the tail ends here. Your staccato argument (Yes, you are arguing since you're debating vehemently the reasoning behind your suspension) doesn't help with your cause either. Zero Tolerance Policy is an open definition and if so happens your sentence happens to be out of step with the staff suspending you, so be it. Why are you being anally retentive over a few days suspension? Does the your world stop rotating for those few days? This is not the first time you've argued with a staff over your suspension. Your /b/ post of obscenity for some so called "justice" was deemed against the rules and yet you defended it (vehemently again). It's the underlying principle of it. If you're perspective is different from others, fine by it. But if others differ from you, I don't suppose it's fair ramming your POV down their throats fair isn't it? And if you so have much hatred for one on the internuts most misdirected bloggers in Malaysia, bash it in his face since you do say that you're heads on type, right?
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jan 16 2007, 03:27 PM)
Edifgrto, lay off the rhetoric arguments here. If you feel like taking this on further with dear unknown here, do it in Kopitiam with him or better still start a missive by PM'ing him, unless you do have some dissatisfaction which you are hiding behind quotes and examples.

Does that means I chose to silent, means you got it all right... now wanna use your English to mock my statement?
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jan 16 2007, 03:27 PM)
Edifgrto, lay off the rhetoric arguments here. If you feel like taking this on further with dear unknown here, do it in Kopitiam with him or better still start a missive by PM'ing him, unless you do have some dissatisfaction which you are hiding behind quotes and examples.

As for unknown, I don't know from the head begins and the tail ends here. Your staccato argument (Yes, you are arguing since you're debating vehemently the reasoning behind your suspension) doesn't help with your cause either. Zero Tolerance Policy is an open definition and if so happens your sentence happens to be out of step with the staff suspending you, so be it. Why are you being anally retentive over a few days suspension? Does the your world stop rotating for those few days? This is not the first time you've argued with a staff over your suspension. Your /b/ post of obscenity for some so called "justice" was deemed against the rules and yet you defended it (vehemently again). It's the underlying principle of it. If you're perspective is different from others, fine by it. But if others differ from you, I don't suppose it's fair ramming your POV down their throats fair isn't it? And if you so have much hatred for one on the internuts most misdirected bloggers in Malaysia, bash it in his face since you do say that you're heads on type, right?
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Btw, it's nothing to do with forcing my pov down anyone's throat,
All i'm interest is my appeal for reversal of warning bar, which i can see is refused, well if you can, se7en or anybody, pls do so.

I'm closing this thread, LoL looks like edi's on his usual PMS again. rclxms.gif

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Whoops! I should have known better than to re-open this before going off on a two-day vacation. Sorry to the other mods who got dragged into this.

Long story short, I was pretty much ready to revoke your suspension, whatever your reply was, but then you had to go post this:

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 16 2007, 08:50 AM)
Funny, i think i asked the question first. Here's a hint, try reading the title of the thread.
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Such snark! Here's how it works: you're the one who's supposed to be making the justifications here since I already made mine in the 'Reason for Warning' field (MENJ is a touchy character; the last thing we want are lawyer letters from him for allowing death threats in this forum). I opened the door of opportunity by re-visibling your thread and I would have accepted anything, even a 'my dog ate my original post' excuse. But you blew it because somehow you thought that your sarcasm would endear yourself to me and the rest of the team. Too bad!


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