Why Do WoWers Confuse

It seems that alot of WOWers misunderstood why tmnet ping is so high to wow.

It is not due to sucky international traffic, not due to sucky tmnet routing, AND NOTHING to do with distance(but it does on a very small scale).

Also it has nothing to do with tmnet limiting your bandwidth.

Its is due to Bandwidth throttling introduced "Smartly by tmnet" since 2003.

Fact 1 : Bandwidth throttling Does not "LIMIT" your download speed.
Fact 2 : Bandwidth throttling Does not "BLOCK" you from international users *hence* p2p

What Bandwidth throttling does is a method of ensuring a bandwidth intensive device, such as a server, will limit ("throttle") the quantity of data it transmits and/or accepts within a specified period of time. Bandwidth throttling helps provide quality of service (QoS) by limiting network congestion and server crashes.
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In Layman terms, It is slowing each packet down and put it in a queue to be sent to international links, Therefore increasing the "Response Time" we get when connecting overseas.

Why diffrent ip have diffrent ping times you asked.

Each set of ip "usually" have a set allocated international bandwidth for them. If that set of ip have more bandwidth OR in some cases LESS P2P users, They will have less Response time due to the fact that the packet takes less queue to be transmitted out.


Okay What happens if theres no throttling?

There will be a degration of service and alot of timeouts. This is when you guys start to whine about lousy tmnet service with timeouts but less lag

This is Unthrottled ping times to wow using a 2.0 M package



OR Do you want this throttled 1.0 M package



This post has been edited by ShaderX: Jan 17 2007, 10:54 AM

Wow needs about 2 kb/s constant transfer and maby 5 - 10 during raid which is absolutely low if they want to cap it till that point.

All they did is put "Again!" Bandwidth throttling to the newly rerouted routes

Edited for diffrent ip. Explained also.

unless p2p user suddenly die of a plauge or tm stop throttling or they buy more bandwidth yeah.. wow will be rubbish

Dude... there is just not enough international bandwidth to go around.

IF they have the bandwidth, they wont even bother throttling.

Okay. If u dont like throttle theres 2 option.

1 ) Throttle my bandwidth and give me high pings but not timeouts

OR

2 ) Dont throttle my bandwidth and give me low pings but timeouts

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This is unthrottled ping times to wow using a 2.0 M package



OR Do you want this "throttled" 1.0 M package



This post has been edited by ShaderX: Jan 14 2007, 09:14 PM

Bt users are genuine as well. They pay money to download thier p2p stuff let aside legal or not.

The only way to have a "WIN WIN" situation is that tmnet purchase ALOT of extra bandwidth Which i doubt will ever happen.

All they can do now is..

Take Off the Damn UNLIMITED BANDWIDTH Advertisment.

If they put limited bandwidth the p2p users WONT 24/7 but us wowers will still be able to play normally and still download p2p stuff

ping times and amount of data sent is different

even u download 2xxkb/s your ping will not be different

i think this should be stickied

If it is capped... we have no prove that tm caps us ...

I can dl simultaneously on diff international peers at around 10 - 60 kb/s which is very very unstable.

Its true.

By the way.. not only TmNet Bandwidth Throttle connections. Bandwidth Throttle is very common in alot of isp nowadays.

Do you think tmnut invented this brilliant technology? omfg. no way. all they did was got some advice from some overseas ISP on how to handle overflowing connections and still provide QoS, hence Bandwidth Throttle.

And heres a link for all the isp who bandwidth throttle. This is to prove that my fact is straight non-bias and true.

http://wiki.filesharingweb.de/index.php/En...throttling_ISPs

Its always been there and its not temporaly. Why you suffer more now is because there is not enough bandwidth to go around to WoWers and P2Pers And hence the throttling increases and therefore more lag.

Its very very easy equation. If i have more bandwidth means theres less throttling means less lag. Easy.

Blame the 24/7 P2P users, and also blame TmNet aswell for not buying additional bandwidth or even take it to the next level like sgers did.

Sgers Maxonline from starhub is a direct international line and hence they have thier on Tier1 Backbone to rely on.

What Tm has? Shared backbone with hk taiwan routed thru japan/taiwan to US.

:/ P2P Users! stop downloading now! You wont die if you dont watch the latest episode of anime right >.<!?

.... still i am getting 2k pings to wow omfg

Okay i am getting full 2k pings. 60.52 Sucks It has too many p2per 60.50 and 60.53 owns Both gets 400 + pings

Lol ok. The ip config is based on the dhcp server in every datacenter. Each location is assign a certain set of ips range. If you are in that location you will be assign to that ip.

Oh yea, this is to reduce ip conflict which is major havoc on a isp.

219 ip varies alot some high some low.