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post Jun 25 2016, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(saddient @ Jun 25 2016, 09:16 PM)
selling myr at 33.5.... but i convert using the tool sgd 1000 = myr 2985.076 ... how come ?
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That is 100 unit equivalent to 33.5. Its not direct multiply like that.
The rate is actually 2.9851 (100 / 33.5) * X SGD that u want to change. So, if change S$1000 = RM2985.10.
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post Jul 6 2016, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Jul 6 2016, 07:15 PM)
Hi guys, is is legal and allowed if ur salary being pay full in cash, without contribution to cpf (ur own 20%)
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U can ask your HR and my assumption is they will do it in July, for June and July contribution.
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post Jul 21 2016, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jul 20 2016, 10:58 AM)
my $1300/mth living expenses breakdown :-

weekdays breaky - $4; lunch -$5 & dinner -$5 =$14*22=$308
weekdays transport - provided
weekends feel-good (all-in) - $80*4=$320
room rental/mth - $450
phone/mth - $56
groceries, etc/mth - $160

total $1300

p/note-this is living expenses (comfortably living to me) while, cumulate bigger % on saving/bonus payout, not salary drawn.
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I thought your take home nett $1300. Now I know it is expenditure.

To the rest, I do agree the basic expenses will cost about $1200, which is about comfortable level.
If $900 and below u probably just working machine, eat sleep work and repeat. With minimal outing and misc. expenses.
So to save and bring money back home, I think its best to have take home nett $1500 at least, although bargain power is less cause u need compete with other countries e.g. Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, China etc. But u must also able to save and live comfortably, otherwise its better in KL or MY as at least u are local citizen with certain privileges such as hospital, clinic etc (SG medical fees is one of most expensive in the world, aside from US *Unless u are fully covered by company*). If there is no pulling factor or career/personal future plan I don't seems to find it attractive to come and work here. And of course family should be included into consideration as well.

Happy to see many people earning decent here smile.gif

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post Jul 31 2016, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jul 30 2016, 08:32 AM)
I have to pay on my own la... But company do all the tax filing thing with the payroll system. Just need to file tax refund if any.

I'm not sure if a company can pay tax on behalf/for its employees. hmm.gif

But if can that means the balance from the accumulated 5% pay will be credited back to your account after they pay the tax for you. 5% retention though. No good no good.

But again... You already here in SG or still thinking to accept the offer or not?
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The clause mentioned that it is his responsibilities to pay his personal income tax, so the 5% withhold is only payable to him at certain stage, e.g. after he cleared his tax or annual assessment. There should be a continuation of that clause.


QUOTE(playstan211 @ Jul 30 2016, 11:27 AM)
nope. but TS has passed the min requirement for EP. why is he getting non-ep
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It depends on quota of the company that he/she applied.

QUOTE(shawnmy @ Jul 30 2016, 01:24 PM)
i'm gonna send them the URL that you provide and ask them for clarification.  rclxms.gif
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Yes, please share here what is their response. In addition, if they responded to you, tell them to show u which part of MoM web shows 5% withhold salary instead of last month salary. Lastly, if u are brave enough (Not recommended), ask them if there is any interest of that 5% withhold salary once it is deposited back to u smile.gif

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post Aug 2 2016, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(clofae @ Aug 2 2016, 09:27 AM)
Why my EP only valid 1 year? What happens after that? If re-apply then reject means kena sent home omgomgomg blink.gif
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I think there could be any reasons, but we don't know which one. IMO, one of it is due to market condition too volatile and uncertain. I would think best to ask your manager/HR directly for an answer.

QUOTE(Millennium Falcon 888 @ Aug 2 2016, 06:54 PM)
I have a brother-in-law who is based in Singapore (not to mention several friends who work in SG too) and if I were to try my luck with a job there, how do I start? And can I get my bro-in-law to become a referral or supporter of my application? hmm.gif

I'm 36 and looking at a new challenge, after over 10 years with the same company... rclxms.gif
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Replying on referral only: Anyone that has direct relationship other than employment can't be your referral (For employment), however relatives/family and friends can be one good indicator that u have someone locally which increase adaptability/reduce risk failing to fit into SG environment.

QUOTE(deodorant @ Aug 2 2016, 09:21 PM)
Then I think the question you should ask yourself is ... why? Why bother uprooting yourself and planting in SG when you can't afford to have your family in the same country as you?
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Agree one this.

QUOTE(chloe_yee87 @ Aug 2 2016, 04:09 PM)
Hi guys,

Need your expert help. My employer have applied EP for me 1.5 months ago. The initial result of the application was 'Rejected' so now they are appealing and pending for result. It has been pending for result for about 1 month now and I'm getting worried. The HR can't do anything but to wait for MOM. So, I have researched for alternative and found out that dependent pass can also work in SG, as long as they have Letter Of Consent. Thankfully, my husband is working in SG and I'm eligible to apply for Dependent pass.

Have anyone encountered this problem before? Thanks all!
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I am more interested to know why they rejected your application. If its company side then that is okay, but if its your application side then I am not sure if it makes any different.
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post Aug 5 2016, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(LalaluSan @ Aug 4 2016, 11:36 AM)
Based on my friends explanation, foreigners like us would required to register with MOM for the place we are going to stay. Therefore, ppl like me (1st time staying in SG) are recommended to find an agent, as they will do all this process for us. Correct me if im wrong sifus  laugh.gif
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1) I would suggest that u and other new members read back what are the questions, feedback and comments as all these questions has been answered and discussed previously. (I did that few months back, here is not like /k/ so u surely learn new things every few pages u go through).
2) Online reading and google-ing around will help, some feedback may not be true because everything changes and it will be outdated especially those one-time off process.
3) SG is full of all kind of people comes from many countries, so don't worry everyone u meet not necessary Singaporean also, so don't feel like "foreigners like us" smile.gif

Regarding to room rental question: I believe it depends on what pass u holding, I was informed by landlords that certain pass (Excluding EP) requires them to register at HDB just to ensure that they do not overstay and reachable/contactable by authorities if needed. It is illegal to rent to those do not have valid permit e.g. expired permit and HDB landlord could lose their unit due to this. Not much hassle if EP holder.

QUOTE(TzeThon @ Aug 4 2016, 03:23 PM)
to be honest agent is not necessary. i find it too expensive to pay since most of them are useless.
just try to get a room from websites like ibilik or easyroommate. they are good enough. i got good rooms from easyroommate.
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I agree on this. Take time to make appointments and visit rooms, unless u don't have much time and rush, and want to have hassle-free then u can pay for getting agent sourcing the room for u (At premium because u can look for room yourself without agent so its a premium payment which is not necessary). I myself visited about 13-15 rooms two months back.
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post Sep 5 2016, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(tyjl @ Sep 4 2016, 09:14 PM)
Is there a need to clear tax with current company by the end of current employment?
I believe there should be no such need as I will still be working in Singapore. But, just to be sure.
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If u are not leaving SG with future employment in SG, u can declare it via LOU.

QUOTE(Osho @ Sep 5 2016, 02:39 PM)
Thanks. It helps to get perspective from someone in similar industry to set the appropriate expectation.

I asked this because my MYR salary is slightly off the chart higher than Jobstreet salary report for Senior (MY) and the Jobstreet Salary upper ceiling for SG Senior is a lower than the MY's upper ceiling (SGD to MYR nominal value).
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Personally, I don't think Jobstreet data is correct, as they are purely statistic without sanity checks which is why I don't recommend to compare using their scale. U should be comparing with peers, uni alumni, friends or people that has similar profiles as yours to benchmark. Although, u may not have exact figures but u should be able to tell if u are top 10%-20%, mid-point, or lower point.

QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Sep 5 2016, 09:50 AM)
Everyone else say can. But hey, maybe my opinion might be useful. I dont have tax background, but im from a big 4 audit firm 5+ years exp too back then..

Dont expect a dollar increment, especially if your targeted firms are big 4 or mid tier sort of companies. Friends at the manager level moved over at abt 80% of their myr pay (rm8k to sgd 6k+) for a role in the due diligence / performance improvement side of things. Im sure you are familiar with the standard pay scales of these firms.

So, if you want a job that gives you an increment... The kind of job you are looking for is banks, MNC and govt investment companies (temasek-linked etc). But audit and tax experience (especially your tax exp) is not exactly transferable over to the singapore environment, and not fully relevant to the jobs these kind of companies have.

So....

Here are the odds in my view.

5% increment
15% matching.
80% pay cut.

Good luck. All my.other audit friends came with a paycut (before convert). Those that didnt were not in finance or accounting. (except those at the junior end..  Mid level execs not so)

But.. Its not impossible. Good luck finding that 20%
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I agree on this to certain extend.

My overall view, those that in 5% increment and 15% matching, could be real talent, specialist or revenue-producer, other than that it could also be that they are coming from lower point in MYR as we couldn't benchmark everyone receive same pay. Whoever earning well and receive increment and matching is really good for them, whoever receive cut if it is less than 20% its okay because at the right time right place u will in better path in MY.

On Banks or Financial institution side, it is unlikely better than any industry with current market condition. At least on the skill sets side, it is still transferable between MY and SG on certain areas, at the same time it is also competitive as well as u will be fighting for the "rice bowl" from people all around the world, Ivy league, US, Switzerland, London, other EU, China, Indonesia etc.

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post Sep 7 2016, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(Tally33 @ Sep 7 2016, 05:16 PM)
nope, im not IA, wish to be one tho  rolleyes.gif
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Haha I won't wanna be Internal Auditor though, I have many friends from Accounting course and lasted few years in IA left to other job scope/industry. Crazy working hours during peak, when I mean crazy means work until 4am to 6am, and back to office/client site again at 8am or 10am.
If International Assignee as IA then I wish too tongue.gif
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post Nov 25 2016, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(KilJim @ Nov 25 2016, 09:11 AM)
You didn't have to visit the MOM office at all?
That's pretty good, last year i had to visit MOM to take picture and some other stuff
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I don't think it works that way. I believe what he mean is company/agent courier EP card to him. There is no one can represent on-behalf of others for fingerprinting. This will also allow user to use fast lane than over-counter immigration.
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...required to report personally to the Employment Pass Services Centre (EPSC) within xx days from date of IPA letter for the registration and fingerprinting, as part of the mandatory process to obtain the biometric pass card.


QUOTE(aLertz @ Nov 25 2016, 10:42 AM)
don't do this....
instead of losing it, you'll see the bomb squad there laugh.gif
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Lol agreed! Instant U-turn if saw that haha..
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post Nov 27 2016, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Nov 27 2016, 03:27 PM)
Just submitted last week. No ask. But the officer who served me is Malay la biggrin.gif
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U manage to submit Birth cert in BM format? This is only doc that I have in Bahasa.. Hmm hmm.gif
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post Dec 16 2016, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Dec 16 2016, 01:39 PM)
Hope currency strengthen even more next year.
And property price drop in KL!
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Unlikely, I assume u refer to SGD on currency strengthen.
http://www.mt5.com/forex_news/quickview/2018571

My personal view is property in KL price remain flat or minimal change.


On earlier topic regarding to CNY, I am flying back to East MY via MAS and it is indeed difficult to plan since its Jan and most of us starting the year with zero or few days of annual leave. It is easy with a good conversation with manager well in advance.

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post Dec 17 2016, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Dec 16 2016, 11:50 PM)
Why few days? hmm.gif

I got 10 days brought over + full annual leave for 2017 at my disposal. Enough for one month off work  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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Not everyone can carry forward annual leave mah, especially banking/financial industry. Some of us also started mid/end year don't have many year entitlement plus future planned trip took all remainder days liao..
Next year I plan to bring over more days to the cap biggrin.gif
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post Dec 18 2016, 10:02 PM

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Anyone recently submitted docs to ICA for PR?
I have few docs in Bahasa (I know official language is English and national language is Bahasa) cause I noticed that birth cert and some other certs (SPM, etc) is in Bahasa.
If u have reliable translation done and affordable price will be good too to share with me.
Also, SGD100 is payable upon submitting docs right? Then once submission is approved then there will be one interview session before PR is approve right? Correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks.
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post Dec 20 2016, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Dec 18 2016, 10:29 PM)
Well I nvr translate any doc , same for my frens too , all apprived

No interview, just normal submission documents session , no q&a too, if u consider this as interview than yes ....
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I see, happy to hear it is acceptable without translation! Sounds easy to me, I thought most countries have multiple stages e.g. submit docs, review, interview etc. Thanks!

QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Dec 19 2016, 12:47 AM)
No translate.
No need pay anything also.

Just arrange appointment, prepare docs, submit on the appointment date and time, wait for 8~12 months for the result.
Once approved, go settle remaining stuff and prepare take SPR Blue IC.

Don't really know whether got interview leh.

I also just just just just submitted.
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Oh, good. I saw some fees (SGD100 entry etc) would assume some processing fees for PR application. That was way long wait to go.. haha..
Thanks.

QUOTE(aLertz @ Dec 19 2016, 10:08 AM)
mine not translated also....no issue
submitted last year June if not wrong....got my results 10 months later laugh.gif
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I hope mine will be fine too! Thanks.

QUOTE(Blues89 @ Dec 19 2016, 04:11 PM)
haha...guess still long to go then - -"
just check,still pending :/
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Someone told me, no news is good new biggrin.gif

QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Dec 20 2016, 12:51 AM)
Actually... I don't think even 10% of the landlord in SG do inform HDB.

But the important thing is to update you HR your latest address. At least that way you done your part to keep SG Gov updated biggrin.gif
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Yes, I was told not compulsory for EP, however other passes is required to register with HDB to prevent overstay.
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Wish me good luck.. I am >1Y but still gonna try my luck! Hehe biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Dec 22 2016, 01:13 PM)
Anyone looking for a room to rent?
I'm moving out of mine in Feb, helping my landlady find a new tenant

5-10mins walk from Bishan MRT (or 1 bus stop away)
$650 inclusive of utilities and wifi (air cond at night only)
Large common room, well furnished as I will be leaving some furniture behind (queen sized bed, computer desk, shelf)
Kind landlady that won't bother you and wont have any crazy requirements
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Your unit sound almost same like mine. Nice landlady and distance to MRT and furniture as well.
But mine is EW green line. Mind to share why and which area u heading? biggrin.gif I am looking to move in future as well.
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QUOTE(veger_leong @ Feb 11 2017, 08:15 AM)
I just gotten offer from a Sg bank,HR adviced me to resign first and concurrently they will apply EP for me so that I can serve my notice period earlier. But Isn't it there is a chance if I resign from my current role but then the EP got rejected by Sg government ? 🤔

By the way, can tell the package is not very attractive, currently I'm getting above 5 figures in Malaysia but they can only offer me sgd8k+ and it is without epf, it is like more than 30% slashed but reading the posts seem like everyone can get one to one or some even get increment
Just wonder if anyone get slashed (dollar to dollar)when they move over to Sg ?
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Feb 11 2017, 01:14 PM)
veger_leong the 1:1 generalization is only really somewhat useable at the lower end of the payscale. Our old time member seantang posted some stats last time that as seniority rises, the myr salary rises more than the sgd one (example for illustration, a s$20k job might pay rm30k in kl; a s$30k job might pay rm40-50k in kl).
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First, u should not resign before EP is approved and there is chance of it being rejected. Second, if they want u to start soon then they should pay out your notice period, or wait until u served your notice and join them.
Third, I agreed with deodorant's comment above that u cannot use 1:1 generalization. The example given is also correct. The stats of income bracket in MY and SG is totally different at high level of seniority. And as always mentioned before, u should benchmark based on your experience, skills, job scope and industry to SG market, it is not as simple as 1:1 rule. U can google those benchmark such as glassdoor etc.
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QUOTE(veger_leong @ Feb 11 2017, 05:30 PM)
Hi deodorant wallchecker thanks for the advices.
Ya even I checked with the headhunter she also said that there is like zero chance for Malaysian getting EP so has no worry on that but I still feel not comfortable cause the risk is still there

Just check the role it is like this range but then  if taking into consideration of the living expense in sg, checked at lest like 1500+- for a studio unit so monetary wise it is not really a good move but more like getting international exposure for this move
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I would assume u mean zero chance of Malaysian EP rejection - It is up to u, if u don't feel comfortable then wait until EP is approved. But no one can confirm EP application is 100% approved until it is approved by MOM, so tell that to your headhunter.
The second part is very personal, u have to read up many pages of this thread of previous versions to understand more. In KL, if u are single and earning RM10k plus, u can live comfortably owning a car and one decent condo (500k to 800k). And u still have some saving if u are good in managing expenses. U get to see your family, your partner (or wife) / kids, friends and so on. In SG, if u are single, earning SGD8k, u will be renting a place first (Whichever u like HDB or Studio/condo etc), but u will be far away from home. Traveling back home cost money and time. If this is not an issue that is fine. But people here mostly uses public transport to work (Yes, it is way much better than KL) even those earning 15k and above. Owning a car is expensive and eat up your gross income. A decent private condo usually priced around 800k to few mills (Expert here correct me if I am wrong), and prime location is easily 1.2 mill and above. U can read more yourself by Google on housing here.

Nevertheless, personally if I am in your shoe, I will take this offer up because in long-run working in SG is way valuable than in MY. I don't mean kopitiam "Woah this person work in SG etc etc.." but from personal profile to corporate perspective on u when u return to MY (If u return).

QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Feb 11 2017, 07:59 PM)
above 5 figures . hmmm. means at least rm100k / month. why would u consider going for sgd8k+ if u can make so much in marehsia?
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I am sure he wanted to say 10k and above per month.. I don't think anyone will take SGD8k vs. MYR100k per month biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Feb 16 2017, 12:01 PM)
I got SG EP

looking to move to a higher paying industry like in the BANKING SECTOR

got mou? ada lubang?

I am in construction btw
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Banking/Financial industry is overrated. First, not everyone in the industry earn that much (some people just act like they earn a lot but no saving/asset at all or they are rich first and then banker). Second, retrenchment/lay-off is happening almost everyday, go check stats by MOM see how many % of total from this industry. Third, Google how well they perform and what's their payout, mostly declined % YoY and/or being fined big sum $$$.
Nevertheless, it is still okay but no longer like last time anymore.
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Feb 24 2017, 08:49 AM)
Foreigner (SP/EP) holder they will give SPEP account.

POSB Savings – SPEP Account  S$2.00 per month S$1,000

I also just discovered this last month. Tio charge last 2 months coz now mainly using OCBC always keep below 1k in POSB doh.gif
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Yes, $2 on SPEP account.

FYI to everyone on DBS/POSB account: http://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/support/ban...-below-fee.html

I am going to check out OCBC360 see if it's that good biggrin.gif

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