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yok70
post Jul 13 2016, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2016, 02:35 AM)
no la... the volatility gets to you - cold feet, very normal. biggrin.gif
looking at the gyrations in the last few minutes, i will hold until tmrw.

maybe api will report +3.3mil instead of experts estimate of -3.3mil.

then maybe eia will report -1mil. tongue.gif

really, hard to think it will rally another 3% after 5% today.
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VIX is low, index is high, broad market is hard to rise strong in coming days.
so ya, bet on bear is relatively safer in a way.
good luck to you! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 13 2016, 02:42 AM)
VIX is low, index is high, broad market is hard to rise strong in coming days.
so ya, bet on bear is relatively safer in a way.
good luck to you!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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will have to see later.

wild swings again tonight, i think:

the American Petroleum Institute on Tuesday showed U.S. crude inventories rose by 2.2 million barrels in the week to July 8 to 523.1 million, compared with analysts' expectations for a decrease of 3 million barrels.
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post Jul 13 2016, 06:58 PM

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since iea made a statement before eia data is released, likely eia will report stock buildup too, like api.

wti retreat to <45?

ok, dow/s&p can continue to rally! biggrin.gif


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/12/oil-prices-...ude-stocks.html
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post Jul 13 2016, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2016, 06:58 PM)
since iea made a statement before eia data is released, likely eia will report stock buildup too, like api.

wti retreat to <45?

ok, dow/s&p can continue to rally! biggrin.gif
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/12/oil-prices-...ude-stocks.html
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commodity seems broadly rebound. I see copper, silver, gold, oil....all rebound.....weak dollar cause all this? maybe world consumption rebound as well....broad world economy recovery begins this 2H16 for real?..... hmm.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 13 2016, 07:29 PM)
commodity seems broadly rebound. I see copper, silver, gold, oil....all rebound.....weak dollar cause all this? maybe world consumption rebound as well....broad world economy recovery begins this 2H16 for real?..... hmm.gif
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it's probably a mixed picture.

china, the main consumer of commodities is showing lackluster performance:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/13/china-june-...ts-decline.html

commodities... some rebounding like mad, some still in doldrums. can't lump them all in one.

crude... many nations depend on it to survive, a sole source of income, cannot pump less. plus all those floaters now with so much in stock.

one thing for sure - we will have cheap petrol and "low inflation" for a long time.

like bnm says:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...-as-risks-mount
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post Jul 13 2016, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 13 2016, 02:15 AM)
i sold too early....5% less.... doh.gif
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if u wait, sell now...27.00 only. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2016, 09:48 PM)
if u wait, sell now...27.00 only. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 10:50 PM

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US crude stockpiles fall less than expected at 2.5 million barrels: EIA


4 out of 5 times, eia data is opposite to api. laugh.gif

so, wti should be going back to 44.xx.

hazardous times... very easily burned by uwti/dwti. sweat.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2016, 10:50 PM)
US crude stockpiles fall less than expected at 2.5 million barrels: EIA
4 out of 5 times, eia data is opposite to api. laugh.gif

so, wti should be going back to 44.xx.

hazardous times... very easily burned by uwti/dwti. sweat.gif
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scary volatility.
if 44.80 can't hold, may look at 43.40.... sweat.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 13 2016, 11:13 PM)
scary volatility.
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becos the oil bulls and bull traders rather keep stocking up looking for profits!

the cold fact is every two humans on the planet can hold one barrel at home now. tongue.gif

and the producers can't stop pumping...



dwti sold 87, nice. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 13 2016, 11:13 PM)
scary volatility.
if 44.80 can't hold, may look at 43.40.... sweat.gif
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Sometimes, I think those numbers (API and EIA) do not matter much but rather cause the kneel jerk reaction
and push prices towards the extreme side of the range if they cross over a technical line.

Right now, we're still in this mid-term range here: 44.50 to 51.50

But, since we're at the low 45 range here for crude and general market at highs, I think if the general market pulls back, crude could likely test that floor and if more bears pile in, that 44.x floor can collapse.
So, better put a tight stop here. nod.gif

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post Jul 13 2016, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 13 2016, 11:19 PM)
Sometimes, I think those numbers (API and EIA) do not matter much but rather cause the kneel jerk reaction
and push prices towards the extreme side of the range if they cross over a technical line.

Right now, we're still in this mid-term range here: 44.50 to 51.50

But, since we're at the low 45 range here for crude and general market at highs, I think if the general market pulls back, crude could likely test that floor and if more bears pile in, that 44.x floor can collapse.
So, better put a tight stop here.  nod.gif
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there's one video i saw yesterday...

the guy said average for 2016 should be 41.

which means we will see 30's again later in the year.

that's trouble! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2016, 11:18 PM)
becos the oil bulls and bull traders rather keep stocking up looking for profits!

the cold fact is every two humans on the planet can hold one barrel at home now. tongue.gif

and the producers can't stop pumping...
dwti sold 87, nice. biggrin.gif
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Nicely done! rclxms.gif

Anyway, thanks for the heads up on SZO but it is difficult to see that chart.
On the other hand, DWTI despite its leverage move for inverse crude, its chart is forming a nice nice saucer-like shape and moving up on the far right side. It looks bullish and readying for another push to 90-100 level.

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post Jul 13 2016, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 13 2016, 11:44 PM)
Nicely done!  rclxms.gif

Anyway, thanks for the heads up on SZO but it is difficult to see that chart.
On the other hand, DWTI despite its leverage move for inverse crude, its chart is forming a nice nice saucer-like shape and moving up on the far right side. It looks bullish and readying for another push to 90-100 level.
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oh, yes...

looking for a chance to dive back in. tongue.gif


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post Jul 14 2016, 12:43 AM

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already testing 44.80 immediate support tonight.....looks like high chance to dive towards 43.40 in coming days....
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2016, 11:49 PM)
oh, yes...

looking for a chance to dive back in. tongue.gif
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now, lucky i sold yesterday. if hold until now, die die already. laugh.gif
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post Jul 14 2016, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 14 2016, 12:43 AM)
already testing 44.80 immediate support tonight.....looks like high chance to dive towards 43.40 in coming days....
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dow is still green at all time high.

if it crashes, will be fun to watch wti. biggrin.gif


also, fri rig count... if rigs added, it'll compound the pressure.

so, will wait for chance to go dwti again later or tmrw.
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wti closed off lows but could not recover above 45.

will see tmrw.

gudnite!

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post Jul 14 2016, 03:46 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 14 2016, 02:29 AM)
Got spammed....  bruce.gif

Can we short sell this business?    devil.gif
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i reported it. devil.gif


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