I'm working in MNC, we have another site at China. When i visited china site recently, 95% of the cars are foreign brand (VW are the most, ford, peugeot, and even chevy and citroen).
I asked why not many people drive chinese brand car ? Well, their perception is like our perception against Proton, low quality, cutting corners and also safety concerns. They'd rather drive crappy peugeot 207 than buying a chinese car 

if i not mistaken, the 1st 100 units is CBU, and the rest is CKD, so i assuming the QC is local - will it better than China...?

if i not mistaken, the 1st 100 units is CBU, and the rest is CKD, so i assuming the QC is local - will it better than China...?

Hard to say, local QC wise i guess wont be far off from China QC haha. I will be more worry on the parts being used that are unknown, unless you personally go and check.

Even our perception towards proton kinda bad, at least in proton we know the important parts are using bosch, sanden/denso aircond, continental immobilizer, etc.

I'm working in MNC, we have another site at China. When i visited china site recently, 95% of the cars are foreign brand (VW are the most, ford, peugeot, and even chevy and citroen).
I asked why not many people drive chinese brand car ? Well, their perception is like our perception against Proton, low quality, cutting corners and also safety concerns. They'd rather drive crappy peugeot 207 than buying a chinese car 

Really appreciate on you input, coz i m jz an ordinary driver, to me as long as part easy to find then should be ok

the part that using... i think maybe can bump into their showroom and have a look on this

Thanks!

With your budget, go hrv le haha. This model is about RMB110k in china, which is about rm70k. VW golf/jetta there also RMB110k and it's everywhere in china, what else they can cut to make their model more competitive?

Automotive News


June 19, 2017 7:59 AM
EUROPE CHINA
YANG JIAN

Chinese carmakers declare war on foreign rivals

Yang Jian is managing editor of Automotive News China.


Until recently, Chinese automakers were widely considered to be cheap, low-quality marques that were too weak to compete with global giants.

But in the past two years, several Chinese brands have snatched market share from foreign rivals.

Chinese brands accounted for 44.4 percent of light-vehicle sales in China in the first five months of the year, up 6 percentage points from 2014.

Leading the attack are GAC Motor Co., SAIC Motor Corp. and Zhejiang Geely Holding Group. Over the past year or so, the proprietary brands of all three companies have increased sales more than 60 percent.

What is even more impressive is that they have begun to compete on product, rather than price.

While most of their domestic peers still sell vehicles for less than 70,000 yuan ($10,100), these three companies have launched sales of new sedans and crossovers with starting prices above 90,000 yuan.

That's well within the price range of foreign mass-market brands, which typically price their entry-level vehicles from 80,000 to 100,000 yuan.

One of the chief enablers for the migration up the pricing ladder is improved product quality.

J.D. Power and Associates spotted this improvement in its 2016 Initial Quality Study of foreign and domestic brands sold in China.

GAC's Trumpchi brand ranked sixth, while SAIC's MG car brand ranked 18th. That was a higher score than new models marketed by Volkswagen through its joint venture with SAIC.

To be sure, Chinese brands still engage in price wars. After the government raised the sales tax on vehicles with engine sizes up to 1.6 liters, many domestic brands cut prices to prop up volume.

But Geely has made it clear that it won't follow suit. Supported by four new models -- including three compact crossovers and a sedan -- Geely boasts that it will boost annual sales more than 30 percent this year anyway.

And Geely may pull it off. Late last year, Geely and Great Wall Motor Co. -- China's largest crossover manufacturer -- each created new premium marques.

This year, Geely will introduce a compact crossover for its Lynk & CO brand. In time, the brand also will market sedans and multipurpose vehicles.

All of these vehicles will be based on a compact car platform jointly developed by Geely and its Swedish brand, Volvo.

Meanwhile, Great Wall plans to introduce three crossovers this year for Wey, a brand named after company founder Wei Jianjun.

To ensure good quality, Great Wall has enlisted a wide range of global suppliers.

Both Lynk and Wey are aimed squarely at the foreign competition. Geely CEO An Conghui made this crystal clear during his presentation last week at an industry forum in Chongqing.

In China, foreign luxury brands account for 10 percent of all passenger vehicles sold. The remaining 90 percent is split evenly between Chinese brands and their foreign rivals, An said.

"The Lynk & CO brand's mission is to compete head-on with global [mass-market] brands which still control 45 percent of China’s car market," he said.

For the first time, China's carmakers have declared war on their foreign rivals. Can global automakers afford to ignore them? Let's wait and see.

Good day, as title, anyone had test drive this car before? Or owned it? Can please give some comments?

I am planning to have it, since the price is matching my budget 


Thanks!!   

Then beckon the newer questions : buy this or the  coming Geely Boyue based  Proton ??" Bayu?"??

Geely vs Great wall, the contest they are having back home now imported here.

For 2016, H2 outsold Boyue almost 2:1, not sure how the numbers fare 1h 2017 though

http://chinaautoweb.com/2017/01/best-selli...e-suvs-in-2016/

i think they drop brand name Great Wall, now use brand name Haval H2..

Local Distributor called Go Auto, then renamed it to Haval, even then the M4 they change name to H1 to standardise the series

I had done test drive last week at Puchong showroom, quite a pleasent drive, more comfort than most of the same range car, but the problem i see is, too many electronic controller and LED in the car, which makes me feel worry on the maintenance part. Yes you can always Taobao those part from China, and DIY it

According to the showroom sales person, the service fees is fixed, and the part actually not as expensive as Perodua, so I "assume" that the maintenance is within affortable level, but it is the best if the real owner can share his \ her experience, to clear up those questions that we have

Cheers!

Don't listen to sales person. Get real figures on the parts price.

If the parts can only be sourced from one company the price will be sky high. This has happened before with other makes like Chevrolet and Cherry. You must be able to source the parts yourself from Taobao.

Local Distributor called Go Auto, then renamed it to Haval, even then the M4 they change name to H1 to standardise the series

I had done test drive last week at Puchong showroom, quite a pleasent drive, more comfort than most of the same range car, but the problem i see is, too many electronic controller and LED in the car, which makes me feel worry on the maintenance part. Yes you can always Taobao those part from China, and DIY it

According to the showroom sales person, the service fees is fixed, and the part actually not as expensive as Perodua, so I "assume" that the maintenance is within affortable level, but it is the best if the real owner can share his \ her experience, to clear up those questions that we have

Cheers!

im surprise the SA told you this
Quoted" the service fees is fixed, and the part actually not as expensive as Perodua"
Perodua consider cheap spare part car after proton or similar.. this Haval even cheaper?

No body will take SA words in full    Sales always is the same, cakap besar then peanuts in actual 

Still waiting for real owner review....

Want to buy it but the aftermarket service is unreliable as for i heard.

Since they operated themselves so if you want complain or claim defects will be pain

service it shut be no problem(structure almost same as normal car workshop under big tree also know service) , spare parts also no problem(can taobao),  the worst is like proton lo , here sound there sound ~

Why not go for HRV base spec? Now have RM2.5k discount right?

The Haval costs as much as the HRV I think

They got 50% buy back guarantee for your 5 years used Haval, so i dont think the car value will be a big issue 

Wow where is this news

I've been lurking for some time now but I think it's time I share my experience of owning the Wingle 5 4x2 truck. Granted it is not the H2 but I've had the Wingle for 4 years long, so I think I can safely say something.

If the H2 is CBU, do try to not buy just yet. Wait for the CKD version. My Wingle was CBU and boy, did it give me trouble after 2 years. Loss of power when climbing up roads, non-functioning turbo, black smoke and smelly too even when idling. And it wasn't just me, other owners turned up at the SC complaining about the same problems. All were early buyers like me who got the CBU.

As for the SC, I go to the Glenmarie one a lot. Friendly front-end staff and so-so okay mechanics. Spare parts are very affordable to even my surprise. My normal 5000km service never costs me more than RM200. And they already had the H2 on display then (way before it was officially launched). Most impressive specs, but again I heard it was CBU for the first few hundred units. So, I never bought it.

And o yeah, as for my troublesome Wingle, I got rid of it and bought a great Hilux.

Yah both are about the same price range, but Honda now only have quantity, no quality anymore 

2 of my friends (Jazz and Civic) having parts problem (those interior plastic mounting not "thuck" on correct spot, sudah senget, quite obvious, ask to redo or replace but reject, said this is not faulty    )  My sister Jazz board problem, the workshop said voltage tak ngam, causes sometime the car like no power when accelerate, need change part but waited for almost 2 years from the day they made report

That's what i worried about the CBU unit - the car is tuned based on their country road and weather condition, so will have some difference with us. The non-functioning turbo is scary weii.. especially during the up-climbing road!

Really appreciate on your review!

Hmmmm.... I think if you want problems free buy Japanese cars are the best. Not necessarily have to be Honda.

We have 2 Hondas in my house. One HRV and one jazz. Both terrific cars and problem free.

Not sure what haval appeals to you though but it's very rare and untested here. When you're spending RM90k on a car from your hard earned money, makie sure it's something worth spending on and you're happy with it.

You do not want to be stuck regretting it for making the wrong decision.

After all car is a depreciation and your money will be burnt. Why not choose to burn your money on something good and that you really really like.

I am assuming that you are a lucky one to get a problem free car, congratz to you bro! 

IT is not about where the brands come from, but the reliability of the quality, driving experience, value of money, maintenance, etc. Every single brand will have their own hard time when establishing in new market, but this doesn't mean that they are not as good as established brand in the market. We as consumer shall not blinded by their "shinny" brand - most of the brand become famous because of advertising, not by quality, for example.

I don't mind to spend 90k to get a less well known branded product, as long as it satisfy my needs. For the depreciation, everybody knew it when you bought a car, to be a little bit harsh, don't buy car and stick to motorcycle or take public transport if you don't want your bought item value depreciated 

This thread is for gathering info on this car, so that everybody have some info in their mind if this car is in their list, sharing is caring

Cheers!

just wait for geely boyue ... i believe spare parts and price are even cheaper than haval.. since geely is potong now ...

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40998235

Holy cow but can they pull it through?

Yah this car also in my list now, but when i go through the article posted by paultan website, this is a petrol consuming monster, hopefully it had been fine tuned when landed here

Agree with your point of view. Get the car that you like, not the one that everyone else like.

Reason why continental brands like Citroen, Renault, Peugeot etc. are still around, if everyone have the same mindset in the RV aspect, I don't think we will have much choices left.

This is less concern to me personally, as I am more concern on the car build and fuel consumption 

  Haval H2 CKD Launched – New Rims, New Colour, No More Manual

GOKUL  |  SEPTEMBER 13, 2017 06:43 PM

Haval H2 CKD Launched – New Rims, New Colour, No More Manual

Go Auto, the authorised distributor of Haval vehicles in Malaysia today announced the introduction of the locally assembled H2 SUV, featuring new wheel design and a new colour called the Haval Blue.

The manual variant which was offered at RM89,950 (OTR with insurance) previously, has been dropped. Only two variants are available now:

Haval H2 Comfort Auto – RM98,950 OTR with insurance
Haval H2 Premium Auto – RM101,950 OTR with insurance
Other than a new rim design and colour, the Haval H2 CKD is identical to its CBU version, featuring keyless entry system, push start ignition, a multifunction meter panel, steering wheel control buttons, dual-zone automatic air conditioning, a 6-way electrically adjustable driver sea, as well as an adjustable sunroof.



Powering the Haval H2 CKD is the same powertrain package – a turbocharged, 1.5 litre VVT petrol engine that is paired to a six-speed automatic gearbox, producing 147 PS and 210 Nm of torque.

On the safety front, there are six airbags (dual front, dual front side and side curtain), reverse sensors and cameras, a tyre pressure monitoring system, electronic stability programme and a front active headrest.



Available in 14 Haval showrooms nationwide, the Haval H2, which is currently being exported to Batam, Indonesia and also Cambodia, is also offered with a "Buy Back Guarantee" scheme which ensures that owners will receive 50% of its resale value should the H2 is resold to the company within five years.

Is there any further detail of the "Buy back guarantee scheme"? Only after 5 years, what about the 3rd year or 4th year, if one want to sell? Do we need to purchase a new Haval vehicle and then only GWM will buy back guarantee the 50% value? Also, when we buy the new Haval vehicle, will it be referring to promotion/special discount price or the normal selling price? There is a big different between promotion/special discount price and normal selling price. Need to check in details.

Has anyone bought and driving the CKD Haval H2 already? Please share the driving experience and fuel consumption.

Regards

Is there any further detail of the "Buy back guarantee scheme"? Only after 5 years, what about the 3rd year or 4th year, if one want to sell? Do we need to purchase a new Haval vehicle and then only GWM will buy back guarantee the 50% value? Also, when we buy the new Haval vehicle, will it be referring to promotion/special discount price or the normal selling price? There is a big different between promotion/special discount price and normal selling price. Need to check in details.

Has anyone bought and driving the CKD Haval H2 already? Please share the driving experience and fuel consumption.

Regards

As A Haval M4 owner for the last 3+years, don't listen to the non owners & those fakers who seemed concern of everything China. Plenty of spare parts & can get through WhatsApp without needing you to even go looking for it at spare part shops. Some Haval parts are cheaper than Proton or Perodua and definitely cheaper than Toyota or Honda. Bulk of owners are at the M4 & Haval community FB who can give you real honest first hand ownership.  I have even bought brake pads from Taobao for my M4 to test & use at resonable price during my 6mths ownership that's a great blessing should you need to do so.  The H2 is a pleasant & comfortable car to ride daily and maintenance is minimal unlike issued face with Proton turbo models.

Anyone really own this car yet? I have tested this car in the city. I felt the car is quite lag from pick up. I didn't try in the highway yet so not sure the performance how.
Any experience can share?

I am a dealer 3S and owner of a CBU H2 about a year,comfy on long journey,fuel consumption 600km+ per tank (110~120km/h) not bad for a 1400kg+ vehicle, H2 has been in Msia about 2 years and spare part really no issue (rarely any problems about the car)
just sharing my experience with you all ya ^^

I am a dealer 3S and owner of a CBU H2 about a year,comfy on long journey,fuel consumption 600km+ per tank (110~120km/h) not bad for a 1400kg+ vehicle, H2 has been in Msia about 2 years and spare part really no issue (rarely any problems about the car)
just sharing my experience with you all ya ^^

Just bought H2 during Raya promotion, so sharing my honest opinion after 1 month of driving.

Before making decision, I did look at the major brands as compared to H2; X-trail - 40k extra, CHR - 50k extra, HRV - 20k extra, XV - 40k extra and etc. At the end, the only SUV that is below 100k (93k OTR) and offered the most features is Haval H2 with 5 years warranty or 100km deal.

Also the exterior design is to my liking the most as compared the rest. Interior design I would say among the best. Soft rubber touch all over. You need to go and see and feel it for yourself.

Here are the good stuffs. Driving is fun. Although H2 weight about 1500kg but doesn't feel lack of power, in fact it feels like the car wanted to show more torque especially when turbo fully kicked in. I find myself braking more when turbo kicked in and I am already very near to the car in front, so press brake already. You will get used to it and will manage the turbo more well with more practice. Handling is surprisingly good. Suspension is awesome. Car door is really heavy and solid, some friends need few attempts to close it cos its really heavy. Lots of features I still have not yet fully learn all. Speakers are good. Sun roof is sometimes fun as well. Loving the interior ambient light, welcome light and follow-you-home light. Tires pressure monitoring is really useful.

Here are the bad stuffs. Engine and turbo is a bit noisy and can be heard inside cabin. Driving over 120kmph can hear some wind sound. Also some really minor rattling sound. But all these can be negated once you have music on and you probably wont notice all these at all. The tires that come with it sucks and really noisy. GPS is not included in the multimedia panel which is disappointing. Auto Aircon function sucks, keep switching to blow feet first, then only front (maybe I dunno how to set it, will ask SA), so currently manual manipulating the aircon now. Auto windscreen wiper got clicking sound every time it kicked in, like "click" and then wipe...then "click" and wipe again. A bit annoying but you will get used to it soon. Camera for reverse parking guidance need some time to get used to. I am used to Nissan one. Seat belt reminder sound is really annoying and it wont stop until you buckle it even for side passenger. Thinking of how to disable this.

Fuel consumption really depends on individual driving style. If you want to achieve 600km per full tank, then you will need to drive below 2k rpm (no turbo) and below 100kmph. I am heavy footed and I enjoy the torque when turbo kicked in, I drive 140kmph at highway. I get about 450km per full tank, mostly city driving. If fuel consumption is a make or break deal for you, then maybe think about buying smaller and lighter car lo like Axia. If I want to drive big car I dont really care much about fuel consumption. PH gov got subsidi mah.

Let me know if you want me to share anything else I not covered above. Also this are all my opinion and may not be on the same page as yours. So please no bashing me ya.

Thanks for sharing. I got a question - how many litres for your 450km drive? I need some data for comparison, thanks!

HRV once in my list, but after my sis get her Jazz earlier this year, and then tarik balik to Honda center due to engine failure, i had lost my faith on their quality... although my sis get compensation on exchanging new engine (that's what Honda center told us) but it really had spoiled the reputation...

I m open to the choice of SUV, that's why i m looking at H2 too, it seems promising, however it still a new company n hew model to local market. That's the reason i open a thread to ask around at here

Guaranteed buy back within 5 years at 50% price is roughly 45k, that's decent money so if i buy the next generation of Haval H2 in 5 years time it is still worth it.

I was reading some review of it in Aus, they got this light.
Malaysian model also got?

The buyback gives a sense of good RV, but I am concerned of the company sustaining so long. Go Auto seems to be very slow in expansion, especially outside Klang Valley.

Based on my test drive that day, MY cars do come with the wing mirror light. Unfortunately, many users have complained of water seeping in on heavy storms which requires warranty claim of 6 months to complete... 

i have been lurking around in their forums.
the water seeping was for older models.
they have a fix for that already.

they have enough service centers around the country.
one in every major city is decent enough.

Still seeing the seeping complaint in their fb group 2 months back...
I still find it worrying as one in every major city, yet only the ones in Glenmarie and Plentong is Haval MY where others are just authorised SCs...

i think go auto is just a license holder and great wall is not entering the market themselves.
thus i understand being so small they need to grow organically and mitigate risk by appointing distributors.
cars themselves don't cost so much but maintaining the distribution and service network is.
even big boys like Naza can't expand like crazy even for big brand like Kia.

I guess it also have to do with support from the brand owner and the ambition of the license holder...

In my opinion it’s still very slow for a brand with supposedly good value for money products to grow and expand...further more with a local manufacturing plant already in place...

Interesting you brought up Naza...coz Go Auto stems from that family.. 🤣 which might explain the growth rate...

the ones that are doing great have their principal companies involved.
for the kiasu just buy a toyota or honda.
for everyone else there are other choices depending on the risk vs reward.
more competition is always good for consumers anyway.

Correction. Its for the "KIASI" can always buy Toyota or Honda. Been driving H2 for more than 6 months now, no complain at all. Hope their H5 and H9 hit our market soon.

my hokkien not so good
kiasu and kiasi whats the diff bro?

Kiasu = afraid to lose = egotistical
Kiasi = afraid to die = cowardly

Competitor price out

...

After months of teasing, Proton has finally, officially launched the Proton X70 SUV today. With the launch Proton also revealed the official prices for the X70. There are four variants on offer – Standard 2WD, Executive in either 2WD or AWD and top-of-the-line 2WD Premium.

The prices for the variants are as follows:
1.8 TGDi Standard 2WD: RM99,800
1.8 TGDi Executive 2WD: RM109,800
1.8 TGDi Standard AWD: RM115,800
1.8 TGDi Premium 2WD: RM123,800

All prices include on-the-road costs without insurance.
For a limited time, Proton is offering additional benefits for early buyers. They are:
Five free labour service
Five-year unlimited mileage warranty
Five-year free data (1GB/month)
Low-financing from 2.3% p.a

Thanks for the info sharing, looks like H2 is more worth to have than this X70.

Can someone share what's the interest for H2 now?

Thanks and appreciate!

H2 will not be able to compete with X70. A better comparison will be H6 with X70.

But Go Auto already announced to bring in H9 in 2019. Itching to go Haval HQ to check out the car.

Been seeing quite a few of these on the road lately, glad to see H2 getting some recognition although not as much as the H1/M4...

But still underrated, it has a lot to offer for the price...

Haval is fine for a Chinese car, I think it's way better than Chery.

my fren chery owned for 2 years but 1.5 years mostly in workshop.... thats why from his experience..i wary of the capabilities of china brands... although that was 6 years ago story... hopefully china brands really improved leaps and bounds since then... seen alot of H1 on the road... have 1 fren driving h2 for 3 years already... happy driving experience... but still have small dark spot in my heart now but looking to upgrade to a value for money SUV... x70 lowest spec dont have the whistle and bells of haval h2....

Chery's image was already tarnished, people gave them a chance back in the era of Eastar and Tiggo, but heard that Chery cars were too problematic...

Look how their latest Maxime flopped (like I've only seen 3 on the road), although it looks okay, people already got fed up with Chery...

Haval on the other hand, been coming up with decent and reliable cars so far, at least from what I've heard.

i knew someone using H2 as grabcar.

Recently go China Shanghai and shenzhen
On the road is mainly vw and gm cars.
China cars mainly is haval, wuling BYD.
No Boyue sighted

Build quality for this does seem fairly decent and the local assembler is giving an 8 year warranty on it.

Not too long ago Hyundai used to give this type of warranty in America when its products were known to be low quality but had since improved.

Warranties by the manufacturer isn't cheap so they must have a degree of confidence that the product won't break.