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post Jun 11 2016, 01:03 PM, updated 10y ago

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Zakaria (kiri) menjual air tuak di Bazar Ramadan Pasir Puteh

Walaupun terdapat pelbagai jenis minuman dijual pada bulan Ramadan, namun air tuak atau nira kelapa tetap menjadi pilihan utama.

Pengusaha, Zakaria Yusof, 60, dari Kampung Kulim berkata, menyadat dan menjual tuak adalah pekerjaan tetapnya pada bulan puasa sejak beberapa tahun lalu.

“Jika bulan biasa, tuak kami gunakan untuk menghasilkan manisan. Pada bulan puasa, kesemua tuak ini untuk dijual kepada pelanggan di Bazar Ramadan Pasir Puteh,” katanya.

Menurutnya, tuak mesti terjamin kebersihannya bermula dari proses mengambil cebisan kayu cengal untuk dimasukkan ke dalam bekas tuak atau tukir.

Katanya, cebisan kayu cengal yang dikenali sebagai ‘laghu’ membolehkan air tidak menjadi masam dalam tempoh dua atau tiga hari.


“Menghasilkan tuak memerlukan sedikit kemahiran kerana kita perlu memanjat pokok kelapa, mencantas mayang serta menadah titisan tuak yang keluar daripada keratan tersebut,” katanya

http://www.sinarharian.com.my/edisi/kelant...amadan-1.531047
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Jun 11 2016, 01:04 PM)
Sijil JAKIM mane?
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Natural source no need

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QUOTE(itanium @ Jun 11 2016, 01:07 PM)
Arak ni
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Tuak?

Ini baru Tuak.

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it has sugar+natural yeast, the bubble on top is definately a fermentation process where sugar is converted to alcohol but should be less than 1% ABV

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QUOTE(LNB1 @ Jun 11 2016, 01:17 PM)
it has sugar+natural yeast, the bubble on top is definately a fermentation process where sugar is converted to alcohol but should be less than 1% ABV
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last i checked even trace amount pun tarak buleh one.. so how?
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wew...really jual tuak???damn..memabukkan hukumnya haroom....aiyakkkk...wdafak mann
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why pasar ramadan is allowed. They are not even halal and selling openly. Halal sign is a must to obtain if not the public will be confused about the cleanliness of the food.
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its air nira. kelantan call it tuak.

its different from tuak here
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QUOTE(asusx @ Jun 11 2016, 01:21 PM)
wew...really jual tuak???damn..memabukkan hukumnya haroom....aiyakkkk...wdafak mann
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Kelantanese drink Tuak...

you can see it being sold as soon as you arrive in Ismail Petra airport... biggrin.gif

but Kelantan Tuak is for sissies compared to tuak made in Sarawak.... that tuak makes you grow hairs on your balls.... laugh.gif

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Tuak rice wine.
Nira from kelapa right?

confuse.
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Most comment seems negative..confirm tokok lebih xpernah minum. This drink is delicious and taste a bit sweet with gasses. New fresh wont make u drunk, unless if you keep it for looong time. It would
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it's the same case for Tapai, you over fermented it sure become alcoholic but with the right and proper way, it wouldn't be a problem

some people here just making fuss over this


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QUOTE(mutan @ Jun 11 2016, 01:31 PM)
Tuak rice wine.
Nira from kelapa right?

confuse.
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just different name calling in some parts of Malaysia

air nira kelapa is most people who know it outside of kelantan in kelantan it call tuak
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jun 11 2016, 01:24 PM)
Kelantanese drink Tuak...

you can see it being sold as soon as you arrive in Ismail Petra airport...  biggrin.gif

but Kelantan Tuak is for sissies compared to tuak made in Sarawak.... that tuak makes you grow hairs on your balls....  laugh.gif

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Agree!Every gawai I'll drink Tuak Pengayu
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This is so damn good after a long day of fasting

Sedap weih

But pricey a bit la
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QUOTE(IMORTALfatahL2401 @ Jun 11 2016, 01:35 PM)
just different name calling in some parts of Malaysia

air nira kelapa is most people who know it outside of kelantan in kelantan it call tuak
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oo like that aaa.
Thanks for the info.
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keep it for another 2-3 days, n itll be a greater drink than it originally is.
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QUOTE(IMORTALfatahL2401 @ Jun 11 2016, 01:33 PM)
it's the same case for Tapai, you over fermented it sure become alcoholic but with the right and proper way, it wouldn't be a problem

some people here just making fuss over this
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newsflash= anything that undergoes proses penapaian will creates alcohol in it...
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Org kampung pggil je tuak, sbnrnya tu air nira. Bila diperam lama baru jd cm arak
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really would like to try it. Cherasgot?
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Bodo la k/ ni nira mai mana arak

Tuak kat kedah refer pada peraman air kelapa
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QUOTE(zaini900 @ Jun 11 2016, 02:16 PM)
Bodo la k/ ni nira mai mana arak

Tuak kat kedah refer pada peraman air kelapa
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... and proses pemeraman produces? brows.gif
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jun 11 2016, 02:34 PM)
... and proses pemeraman produces?  brows.gif
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Peram lama2 baru jadi arak. Takkan yang tu pon xtau
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tuak pantai timur & tuak utara is different, i know coz im half utara & pantai timur
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ini kalau swk org panggil air ijuk. those tree ppl like me sure knew.
less alcoholic compare to langkau.
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QUOTE(maraippo @ Jun 11 2016, 01:24 PM)
its air nira. kelantan call it tuak.

its different from tuak here
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Ada kawan aku, Penang chinese guy.. mati2 ingat "air tuak" kat Kelantan tu sama mcm 'tuak' kat negeri2 lain. Hahaha.

Air nira je pun.
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QUOTE(Faiz_captain @ Jun 11 2016, 02:49 PM)
Maybe it's better for you to keep quiet

Peram lama jadi cuka
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Guess u still butthurt till now.

Kesian, keep hounding me for wat lol
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QUOTE(zaini900 @ Jun 11 2016, 02:16 PM)
Bodo la k/ ni nira mai mana arak

Tuak kat kedah refer pada peraman air kelapa
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dan peraman dalam english ialah?
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honestly speaking, why certain alcholic foods eg. tapai and air nira/tuak are halal? is there any % threshold b4 it turn to non-halal?
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QUOTE(b3ta @ Jun 11 2016, 01:12 PM)
Ini kan minuman tradisional melayu. Apa salahannya
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so chinese jadi muslim can eat sio bak drink beer?

tradisional cina ma laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Fresh nira la. Lama2 basi xleh minum
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QUOTE(natamhanjing @ Jun 11 2016, 02:58 PM)
Fresh nira la. Lama2 basi xleh minum
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honestly speaking, why certain alcholic foods eg. tapai and air nira/tuak are halal? is there any % threshold b4 it turn to non-halal?
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QUOTE(electronictomato @ Jun 11 2016, 02:57 PM)
honestly speaking, why certain alcholic foods eg. tapai and air nira/tuak are halal? is there any % threshold b4 it turn to non-halal?
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Air tapai from sabah sarawak different than normal tapai here.

There, it was fermented until produce alcohol

Air tapai still harom for muslim. But normal tapai ubi/pulut can eat.

And tuak is basically just the name they call air nira in kelantan.

Its different than tuak at everywhere else which is literally an alcoholic drink.

Actually what harom is not alcohol. Harom is whatever intoxicating. Drinks that make you drunk is harommm.

If ketum drink till gets high also haromm. Dadah also haromm.

Then again, ketum in good use give medicinal benefits, so does prescribed drug usage.
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QUOTE(electronictomato @ Jun 11 2016, 02:57 PM)
honestly speaking, why certain alcholic foods eg. tapai and air nira/tuak are halal? is there any % threshold b4 it turn to non-halal?
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Something like not more than 0.5% alcohol content is not considered haram.

Alcohol is not what is haram, things that make you drunk is haram.tapai and tuak are not made in a big factory so the alcohol content may vary.

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QUOTE(torreto @ Jun 11 2016, 01:08 PM)
Hahaha bukan buleh mabuk ke
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setau aku TUAK ni seangkatan dengan SAMSU. dan Seingat aku lagi TUAK ni biasa kat Sabah Sarawak mmg popular.
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lol i minum tuak 3 glasses straigt x mabuk pn, lulz some people are just too sissy
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QUOTE(bumpo @ Jun 11 2016, 01:20 PM)
last i checked even trace amount pun tarak buleh one.. so how?
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No. Malaysia uses under 0.5% rule and any alcohol produced as a by product of food production is permissible.

If trace amounts also cannot wouldn't that make bread haram?
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QUOTE(maraippo @ Jun 11 2016, 03:07 PM)
Air tapai from sabah sarawak different than normal tapai here.

There, it was fermented until produce alcohol

Air tapai still harom for muslim. But normal tapai ubi/pulut can eat.

And tuak is basically just the name they call air nira in kelantan.

Its different than tuak at everywhere else which is literally an alcoholic drink.

Actually what harom is not alcohol. Harom is whatever intoxicating. Drinks that make you drunk is harommm.

If ketum drink till gets high also haromm. Dadah also haromm.

Then again, ketum in good use give medicinal benefits, so does prescribed drug usage.
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air nira we called it air ijuk in sarawak. i knw as i drinks it b4.


QUOTE(heavyduty @ Jun 11 2016, 03:09 PM)
Something like not more than 0.5% alcohol content is not considered haram.

Alcohol is not what is haram, things that make you drunk is haram.tapai and tuak are not made in a big factory so the alcohol content may vary.
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like Shandy jolly la. less % and not make us drunk.

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Btw from what I heard natural fermentation is considered halal. Much like their Christian brother, drink wine boleh, drink whiskey haroom
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QUOTE(electronictomato @ Jun 11 2016, 03:16 PM)
air nira we called it air ijuk in sarawak. i knw as i drinks it b4.
like Shandy jolly la. less % and not make us drunk.
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Official line is that Shandy is haram because the alcohol is from the production of beer but some people do not consider it as haram


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dan peraman dalam english ialah?
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dude, by JAKIM spec. Must be 0.01 alcohol content

and less than 1% ethanol for fermented food.

i dont know why k/ keep trolling about tuak done by fermentation.

you google ja lah Jakim Alcohol content. berlambak reference
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Non-drinker here. I've tasted air nira b4...I don't think there's any alcohol in it.
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QUOTE(XPAWNED01 @ Jun 11 2016, 02:54 PM)
dan peraman dalam english ialah?
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non-intoxicating

less than 0.01 alchohol content.

1% etahnol content.

these are part of JAKIM spec.
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jun 11 2016, 01:24 PM)
Kelantanese drink Tuak...

you can see it being sold as soon as you arrive in Ismail Petra airport...  biggrin.gif

but Kelantan Tuak is for sissies compared to tuak made in Sarawak.... that tuak makes you grow hairs on your balls....  laugh.gif

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If tuak can grow hair on balls..

What about Langkau?
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QUOTE(Faiz_captain @ Jun 11 2016, 02:54 PM)
Err I don't even remember I talk to you before....perasan betul ko ni
Just saw your current posting saying less peram won't have alcohol
Kandungan alcohol tuak ni macam shandy.....
Biasa kalau peram lama dia akan jadi cuka....my grandfather used to make it
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kau bukan islam apa kau tau pasal halal n haram.

pegi baca guidline JAKIM dulu on alcohol Content.
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QUOTE(Faiz_captain @ Jun 11 2016, 03:38 PM)
Wowow ko ni suka kafirkan orang bila dah malu...bila tak berpengetahuan terus kafirkan lain......bodoh gila
Tapi biasa lah orang macam ko ni
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sudah2 la dupe.

nampak sangat kau ni dupe mana hala suka bash islam.

alchohol content JAKIM pun tak tau suka2 cakap any fermentation process yield non-halal air nira, tapai n etc.


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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Jun 11 2016, 03:09 PM)
Something like not more than 0.5% alcohol content is not considered haram.

Alcohol is not what is haram, things that make you drunk is haram.tapai and tuak are not made in a big factory so the alcohol content may vary.
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if the drinks got alcohol even 1% but Moslem drink it still tak mabuk consider halal? like Shandy drinks?

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QUOTE(zaini900 @ Jun 11 2016, 03:41 PM)
sudah2 la dupe.

nampak sangat kau ni dupe mana hala suka bash islam.

alchohol content JAKIM pun tak tau suka2 cakap any fermentation process yield non-halal air nira, tapai n etc.
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QUOTE(Faiz_captain @ Jun 11 2016, 03:44 PM)
Bila aku bash Islam?!?!?
Aku bash Muslim macam ko ni je....I dare you to show my post bashing Islam....
FYI....
Islam = Muslim but Muslim /=Islam

You want to talk about <1% alcohol as fine?would you eat food cook with cooking wine?
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sebab soalan kau macam tak terpelajar.

any muslim with proper education would know basic halal and haram.

tak payah aku cari pon post kau, tiap kali thread bait islam kau yang lebih2 tanya soalan provoke.
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Double standard bigots. Die die dun admit got alcohol.
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Jun 11 2016, 03:47 PM)
if the drinks got alcohol even 1% but Moslem drink it still tak mabuk consider halal? like Shandy drinks?

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This one grey area. Some say can some say can't. Cant because the alcohol is from the production of beer and not a natural process or by product of making shandy.
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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Jun 11 2016, 03:52 PM)
This one grey area. Some say can some say can't. Cant because the alcohol is from the production of beer and not a natural process or by product of making shandy.
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People will probably die from diabetes first before getting drunk on Shandy.
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Meanwhile ayam rilek buka puasa dekat a&w minum root beer.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 11 2016, 03:55 PM)
People will probably die from diabetes first before getting drunk on Shandy.
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Heh that's what JAKIM people told me when I visited their office
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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Jun 11 2016, 03:52 PM)
This one grey area. Some say can some say can't. Cant because the alcohol is from the production of beer and not a natural process or by product of making shandy.
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yeah we should look back at the purpose of the foods processing/making, if it really means to "mabuk" thn it definitely falls onto haram thingy.....

so Meat cooks with Wine, Tapai and Air Nira wont fall into this category
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[KAGET] Air Nira yang Halal itu ternyata mengandung Alkohol Sangat Tinggi
Masih menyangkut trit ane sebelumnya tentang TAPAI/TAPE yang menjadi kudapan khas bangsa kita sehari-hari yang ternyata MENGANDUNG ALKOHOL setara Bir..............

Hari ini ane ingin menyampaikan satu fakta mengagetkan lagi tentang Air Nira....... Ternyata Air Nira yang diHALALkan di negara Bagian Kelantan dan dikonsumsi oleh sebagian besar masyrakat Indonesia di pedesaan, mengandung Alkohol yang Sangat Tinggi, setara Wine dan Whisky............

Tanpa perlu proses fermentasi khusus, Air Nira akan mengalami Fermentasi Spontan dan menghasilkan alkohol dalam kadar yang sangat tinggi melebihi Tapai/Tape. Dengan dicampurkan zat tertentu, maka hasil fermentasi akan menghasilkan Alkohol 2x lipat lebih tinggi dan mengandung alkohol setara Whisky...............

Ini ane sampaikan data hasil penelitian kadar alkohol dalam air Nira terhitung mulai dari Jam penyadapan pertama.............

0 Jam 0%
5 Jam 7,49%
10 Jam 7,5%
15 jam 7,9%
20 jam 9,56%

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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Jun 11 2016, 03:58 PM)
yeah we should look back at the purpose of the foods processing/making, if it really means to "mabuk" thn it definitely falls onto haram thingy.....

so Meat cooks with Wine, Tapai and Air Nira wont fall into this category
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Hmm... I wonder if that kind of cooked food can make people mabok?
Since ethanol is the one responsible for mabokness...

It should have evaporated during cooking process (ethanol boiling point 78 degrees celcius)... so no more ethanol... no more mabok~
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jun 11 2016, 04:16 PM)
Hmm... I wonder if that kind of cooked food can make people mabok?
Since ethanol is the one responsible for mabokness...

It should have evaporated during cooking process (ethanol boiling point 78 degrees celcius)... so no more ethanol... no more mabok~
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Scientifically the ethanol binding will loosen and consequently evaporated during cookin process at certain tempreture and time...... but thosse thing just too technical for certain Religious law maker , it's not clear and written on holy book, take short-cut route....haraaam
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Have anyone tried drinking boiled beer/ wine/ whisky before?
How does it change the taste and their effect to cause mabokness?
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Jun 11 2016, 03:58 PM)
yeah we should look back at the purpose of the foods processing/making, if it really means to "mabuk" thn it definitely falls onto haram thingy.....

so Meat cooks with Wine, Tapai and Air Nira wont fall into this category
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purpose?

so it is tasty la........lel.

if want to mabuk just drink pure synthetic ethanol la.

cheaper
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ni macam nira nipah gak la ni, serupa tapai ubi dgn tapai pulut..

boleh minum + makan, budak pun bole makan..

lain la tuak yg org dayak sarawak buat, yg jenis minum dh mabuk, yg jenis perap lame tu..

tapi nira nipah + tapai ubi dgn tapai pulut ni pun xle makan banyak gak nanti jatuh haram sebab boleh mabuk..

org2 dulu makan sebab nak bagi keluar angin, peluh bagai, tapi bukan kuantiti yang banyak..
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QUOTE(Faiz_captain @ Jun 11 2016, 03:13 PM)
Jangan spread this kinda logic pls....drink shandy or eating food with alcohol(cooking wine has less alcohol content than air nira) wont be intoxicating too but I don't think you will stand up for it.....moderate drinking also good(even Qur'an mentioned about it) but some ppl choose to abuse it....
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Well, malaysia practice syafie school of thought. Its the strictess among others. It rejects everything close to haroomm.
Being in different islamic country might say otherwise. Example, escargot is halal in some islamic country, but still haram here.

Fiqh is different. No problem there. Can practice whichever mazhab. Thats why the saying never argue on khilaf (difference on views) as it can be followed as long is justified by the authorised ulama.
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Nira has been consumed since ages ago, just that some ignorant kids found out about it, contains alcohol, straight say things that they dont quite understand

Lol meanwhile tuak nira still selling like normal and being consumed
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QUOTE(Faiz_captain @ Jun 11 2016, 04:29 PM)
Why you keep refuse to answer my question?
Will you eat food with cooking wine which usual has got lower level of alcohol content compared to this?
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If you'd ask me as long as it's not intoxicating i'll consume it, heck it's even tastier than using normal cuka or whatever lol
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Whiskey / beer / arak - haroom
Tuak = air kelapa = halal...

topkek...
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QUOTE(spamfish @ Jun 11 2016, 04:42 PM)
Whiskey / beer / arak - haroom
Tuak = air kelapa = halal...

topkek...
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Your simple thinking also very topkek
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U want real tuak, go to sarawak

Can geleng geleng kepala masa terawih
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Jun 11 2016, 04:41 PM)
If you'd ask me as long as it's not intoxicating i'll consume it, heck it's even tastier than using normal cuka or whatever lol
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QUOTE(maraippo @ Jun 11 2016, 03:07 PM)

Actually what harom is not alcohol. Harom is whatever intoxicating. Drinks that make you drunk is harommm.

If ketum drink till gets high also haromm. Dadah also haromm.

Then again, ketum in good use give medicinal benefits, so does prescribed drug usage.
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By your statements, it means that muslims can proceed to drink Anglia Shandy now, since shandy only contains 1% alcohol. Drinking 2-3 cans of 1% surely would not be drunk.

So what say you?
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Jun 11 2016, 03:47 PM)
if the drinks got alcohol even 1% but Moslem drink it still tak mabuk consider halal? like Shandy drinks?

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Absolutely haram
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Jun 11 2016, 04:47 PM)
Your simple thinking also very topkek
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the hypocrisy also topkek
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QUOTE(hirano @ Jun 11 2016, 05:09 PM)
By your statements, it means that muslims can proceed to drink Anglia Shandy now, since shandy only contains 1% alcohol. Drinking 2-3 cans of 1% surely would not be drunk.

So what say you?
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Ulama mention only for alcohol naturally exist in food/drinks. Not going through some process. Still, im not the authorised person to decide halal/haram justification. Normally follow what has been decided la. Since it contains alcohol thru process, stil haram for me.

Go to hnnnggghhhhhh section also harom. But i still go anyway. Owaii
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QUOTE(maraippo @ Jun 11 2016, 05:53 PM)
Ulama mention only for alcohol naturally exist in food/drinks. Not going through some process. Still, im not the authorised person to decide halal/haram justification. Normally follow what has been decided la. Since it contains alcohol thru process, stil haram for me.

Go to hnnnggghhhhhh section also harom. But i still go anyway. Owaii
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Ulama mentioned smoking is haram cos it harms health. Yet many ustaz and holier than thou people still smokes anyway.
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Jun 11 2016, 03:47 PM)
if the drinks got alcohol even 1% but Moslem drink it still tak mabuk consider halal? like Shandy drinks?

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cannot coz manufactured in a beer factory and like the others mentioned, not naturally made
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Pernah minum air ni masa belajar di utara dulu...
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QUOTE(hirano @ Jun 11 2016, 05:54 PM)
Ulama mentioned smoking is haram cos it harms health. Yet many ustaz and holier than thou people still smokes anyway.
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Ulama just tells people what is ok and what is not.

To do or not to do is up to the people themselves.

Unless its a mentioned ban in quran like zina, homosexual, theft, etc then is punishable. Other than that is depend on other law.

Like the issue of summons for woman wearing tight, i'd say its overkill. But as to why they decide to implement it? Maybe they thought its an alternative to reduce the rape statistics. Well, at least its a prevention. Maybe backwards, but thats they way they think of.

But does it say in Islam to punish those dress unmodestly, no.

Is it hudud? Then again, no.


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QUOTE(bereev @ Jun 11 2016, 06:14 PM)
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so yummy!
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Lelelel so many ustard surfaced

Kek.

So rugi dun have sub for pork like tis nira for alcohol.
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QUOTE(maraippo @ Jun 11 2016, 06:05 PM)
Ulama just tells people what is ok and what is not.

To do or not to do is up to the people themselves.

Unless its a mentioned ban in quran like zina, homosexual, theft, etc then is punishable. Other than that is depend on other law.

Like the issue of summons for woman wearing tight, i'd say its overkill. But as to why they decide to implement it? Maybe they thought its an alternative to reduce the rape statistics. Well, at least its a prevention. Maybe backwards, but thats they way they think of.

But does it say in Islam to punish those dress unmodestly,  no.

Is it hudud? Then again, no.
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Personally, if it's not in the Quran I don't really care what those songkok haji says.

As for those health bit, it's true that alcohol and tobacco create a cancer risk but then again I got skin cancer because exposure to sunlight.
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QUOTE(whyamiblack @ Jun 11 2016, 05:11 PM)
Anybody knows where to find Tapai?
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Tapai pulut sarimah at my hometown...they have their own blog page...not sure u can order online or not...or if u have spare time....just drive to malacca...
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Haha, too many stupid here who dont know our local food.
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I actually sincerely felt pity for human who let religion dictate what to eat.

Seriously guys? You seriously believe if there's a god, It will care what you eat or not eat?

(not targeting anyone, it just struck me after I reading the comments here)
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Jun 11 2016, 11:34 PM)
I actually sincerely felt pity for human who let religion dictate what to eat.

Seriously guys? You seriously believe if there's a god, It will care what you eat or not eat?

(not targeting anyone, it just struck me after I reading the comments here)
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God create u to worship Him and He ask us to take care of ourself coz human body is just "thing" that God loan to us. Soul is permanent
God will take ur body back someday(die)
So if u loan ur car to ur friend for a long time, did u just let him do anything?Everyday redline, use diesel EO, etc?
Sure u will make agreement what u can do and what u cant do. Same like us ,try to think about it

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QUOTE(maraippo @ Jun 11 2016, 03:07 PM)
Air tapai from sabah sarawak different than normal tapai here.

There, it was fermented until produce alcohol

Air tapai still harom for muslim. But normal tapai ubi/pulut can eat.

And tuak is basically just the name they call air nira in kelantan.

Its different than tuak at everywhere else which is literally an alcoholic drink.

Actually what harom is not alcohol. Harom is whatever intoxicating. Drinks that make you drunk is harommm.

If ketum drink till gets high also haromm. Dadah also haromm.

Then again, ketum in good use give medicinal benefits, so does prescribed drug usage.
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QUOTE(zaini900 @ Jun 11 2016, 03:35 PM)
kau bukan islam apa kau tau pasal halal n haram.

pegi baca guidline JAKIM dulu on alcohol Content.
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why dont you straight up enlighten us? hmm.gif hmm.gif
coz some say 0.5% some say 0.01% some say asal % tak cukup for mabuk some say natural by product is ok

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QUOTE(bereev @ Jun 11 2016, 06:14 PM)
Terengganu or buat sendiri

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“I personally believe it could have been from Malacca because the Ryukyus Kingdom had started trading with Malacca in the 15th century,” said Prof Takara, who has been to Malaysia and Malacca to carry out research on the ancient ties the Kingdom of Ryukyus had with Southeast Asian kingdoms.

From historical records, Prof Takara said, the Ryukyus had started trading with Siam (Thailand), between 1425 and 1570, Malacca (1463-1511), Patani (Southern Thailand) (1490-1543) and several other areas in Indonesia (Palembang, Java and Sumatra) and Cambodia.

“Records also indicate Ryukyuan junks went to Malacca every year for 49 years and carried out trade with local merchants, Arabs and Indians.

“They would bring gold, silver, copper, tin, and Chinese ceramic from mainland Japan and China and trade them for ivory and wine,” he said, adding that there were also correspondence between the rulers of Malacca and Ryuyukus.

Malacca was also known for its high quality wine (believed to be nipah wine), but later years Ryukyuans started buying it from Thailand when Malacca stopped making it.

Okinawa now has its own rice wine known as awamori and there are about 40 factories producing them.


http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2003...okinawa-temple/
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QUOTE(crash123 @ Jun 12 2016, 12:18 AM)
God create u to worship Him and He ask us to take care of ourself coz human body is just "thing" that God loan to us. Soul is permanent
God will take ur body back someday(die)
So if u loan ur car to ur friend for a long time, did u just let him do anything?Everyday redline, use diesel EO, etc?
Sure u will make agreement what u can do and what u cant do. Same like us ,try to think about it
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Who poison such a ridiculous statement in your mind?

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no need to explain what is air tuak in kelantan.who care.
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