That's why for AMD, since they're banking on longevity rather than robust immediate performance that I need now, they should make their fortune in consoles. I need the performance and I need it now, I dont want them 2 years later when they're finally "figured out" via driver optimization and can proclaim that it's now finally better than its competing same tier card rivals, but where were those performance when I needed it 2 years ago?

Not referring to you. Mostly the folks I see on a certain FB group I'm in. Clearly biased towards AMD, and anything negatively posted gets blasted, even when they know the RX480 is overpriced, and they themselves not buying them. AMD can do no fault according to them.

Their APU, now donno how many years on already and I still see no advantage of using it. It's not like the architecture can miraculously get their best processor to beform like Core i5 or Core i7.

Recently they released the FX-9370, I bashed it kau kau because it like WTH man, your FX-9590 is so ridiculous I already bashed it to bits and now you release an FX-9370 that is not as fast and draw some ridiculous 200W power!

Sadly I still keep the FX-9590 and R9 390 .......... for PSU stress testing purpose.

yea, next time see these posts better take with pinch of salt lol.

haha you seem quite pro-Nvidia it appears to me nothing wrong with that, but have to be fair both sides like abang kentang: blast when blast is due

AMD, they never learned. Or maybe because that's only the best they can do?

I pro-performance. AMD pull a miracle and released a Vega card with performance through the roof that Nvidia cannot answer, I jump ship.

But with tons of caveat. I jumped ship before with the 290X. And AMD lied to me. "Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you, AMD".

What drew you to R9 290X?

haha no wonder la, clam your fire woosh!

The claim that it beats the almighty original Titan at a much cheaper price. But even if I save on the cost of the card, I paid heavily in the other department: power consumption and most importantly, temperature. I'm averse to high temperatures, and I thought that after taming it with liquid cooling, that was it. It was not. Reservoir needed topping up. Coolant evaporating. Serious mindfcuk.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jul 6 2016, 11:16 PM

Well, some people just love underdog.
Tbh, i do hope AMD can catching up with the technology pace.
We just have 2 big players in the GPU market and if AMD keep losing their way, it definitely doesnt serve us, consumers any good. The price released by AMD is quiet competitive for RX480 but when it came to Malaysia, the pricing seems doesnt follow the trend due to pricing markup set either by AMD Malaysia, distributors or retailers.

just wait for gtx 1060 pricing 1st

haha well said
just hope gtx 1060 pricing won't mark up so much like what rx 480

I agree with that sentiment, as long as the product is worth supporting for. I cannot be expected to keep AMD afloat when they're providing crappy product in the face of competition, and is asked to continue support the underdog even when their products aren't compelling. For competition to exists and benefit consumers, both have to be equally competitive. If AMD isnt competitive performance-wise and is expected to be "supported" just to keep Nvidia competitive price-wise, that strategy will not work for long. Nvidia will know their competitor is being supported on the basis of "charity" of their dwindling fanbase and soon enough, their frustrated fanbase will realise that they cannot shoulder this unnecessary burden of carrying AMD on their shoulders any longer. Right now, AMD's position is precarious. They used to be competitive performance-wise during the 7970 days, but those days are long gone. Now all based on promises and "future promises" that their product will become relevant, and yet so far, that hasn't happened, if at all.

tbh, i dont think anyone here understands what your trying to say. your arguments are all over the place. but i applaud the effort your putting to get your points across.

Liddis.

You take Uber balik kampung. You spend a bit more, you get there faster.
You take bus balik kampung. You spend less, you get there eventually, but slower.

Now you ask people who take Uber balik kampung to congratulate people who take bus balik kampung on the basis that it's cheaper for them to get back to kampung, when the Uber car got you back faster and more efficient than a bus.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Guess which one is AMD which is Nvidia.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jul 7 2016, 01:53 AM

both Nvidia.
e.g gtx 1070 and gtx 750ti, one is faster but more expensive, another is cheaper but slower

price points exist for a reason. gtx 1060 will maybe also be around 970/980 performance.
the fact is amd brought the level of performance down to the 200usd price point is what people are exited about.
Had Nvidia done this first, people would be congratulating nvidia instead.
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This post has been edited by damien5119: Jul 7 2016, 09:47 AM

Sure. But in the context of what this thread is all about?

And in the case of the 750Ti, what AMD card powered by PCIE slot alone that has the same comparable performance as it?

R7 360/E variant?
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/?mfgr%5B%...ort=released&q=

750Ti: gets you there like a bus, slow as f**k, still gets you there.
R7 360: it's like walking there. Check Waze for time for arrival.

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R7-360-vs-GeForce-GTX-750-Ti

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jul 7 2016, 09:55 AM

I congratulate the RX480, if I'm in the US. I'm not in the US, so that "performance for USD200" doesn't apply here. It's USD300/RM1299 here. For that price, the "bought the level of performance down to 200USD" doesn't count. Get back to me, when AMD Malaysia get off their ass and bring it back to RM850-950, then I'll wholeheartedly agree with you.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jul 7 2016, 09:57 AM

What if I told u you don't need amd to bring down market price. If u wan high performance u get pascal if u want mid range u get gtx 1060. If u want lower u get used 970 or 980. What the hell amd existed for? All of the card has way better quality build. Run by better software. Higher resale value. Way I see amd is just annoying bug that keep kacao u from making purchase . The way nvidia sells are more time realistic. Precise to what consumers needs. Those who complains high end pascal expensive can only blame the poor competitive level of technology from amd.

Anyhow some will disagree is alright. Everyone has their own perception. But in the end we will see the truth from sale statistic. That's the best way to conclude who s the best isn't it

Hmmmm, I cant agree with you there. The time when 7970 vs 780 and 7970Ghz Edition vs 780Ti, they were competitive. Just that after that, they lost their way. And because they were competitive at that time, prices were slashed left and right. They lost their edge on the higher end after that, Nvidia pulled ahead and price slowly creeping up.

I'm a fan of performance, I rather not see it plateau like how little performance increases there is on the CPU field, because Intel is monopolizing. Nvidia still is improving with their Pascal release, but if AMD isnt there to push them for it, I dont see them releasing monster cards like 1080Ti or Titan Pascal, because they dont have to, when there is no competition. AMD needs to buck up and get competing on the higher end segment, minus all these PCIE overcurrent nonsense and searing hot temps and power-guzzling requirement.

http://videocardz.com/61917/nvidia-geforce...ost-249-299-usd

1060, USD249 MSRP, Founders Edition USD299. July 19th worldwide.







First of all, f**k you Nvidia for that FE extra cost, you're bleeding the freaking budget demographics too!!?

Second of all, still no top view to confirm the existence or disappearance of SLI fingers. IF there's only one SKU, and it's 6GB, and no SLI, that isn't right. So it may be true that the 1060 is 980's performance at stock and encroaching to the domain between 980-980Ti when overclocked. Nvidia scared to cannibalise their own 1070 card sale.

Caveat: provided these slides are real.