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post Oct 8 2016, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(imperiumbrothers @ Oct 8 2016, 11:36 PM)
That's what the buyer think. My opinion 7xxk maybe takes time as so many unit comes along together. Traffic & management is the key
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Depending on how many are really brought for Investment.
You are Right, may face very high competition in subsale.

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post Oct 9 2016, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 9 2016, 06:33 PM)
Passby the site today from Astro
Saw a lot of cranes at the size bz doing earthworks
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Crane is means for hoisting.
Earthwork using excavator.
From what I see, they have completed site clearance work.
Now going to start piling already.

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post Oct 10 2016, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Oct 10 2016, 05:50 PM)
the sales status has prove that the HTC factor is still very much relevant regardless how attractive is the pricing.

Those investors who decided to buy HTC facing units be prepare to sell lower than market price or hold long long before finding a buyer.
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To me, despite the HTC,
If total about 300units built on this 3acres land,
I can accept. But not 1000units on 3acres land.
Very scary...
In Selangor, even under zone 1, the maximum units for 3acres land is only 240units (considering 80units/acre).
1000 vs 240 is almost 4 times....

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post Oct 10 2016, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 10 2016, 08:36 PM)
what's the density for this The Havre?

I share this with properties friends, all ask me pull hand brake.. don't buy, not worth looking at the density.

in future, if I want sell.. ppl who got budget won't look at such high density projects..

p/s: no offence to all buyers, don't bash 9 me tq... sweat.gif
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Already mentioned what?
1000units in 3acre,
Means at least 300units/acre innocent.gif
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post Oct 10 2016, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Oct 10 2016, 08:54 PM)
Density is a big concern, but then these days, no area under DBKL will be free from "high density". We have just gotten 5,000 units approved in 1 single project.

No area under DBKL will be free from affordable homes as well. There are just soooo many lining up in the next few years.
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If that is a case,
Also severe increased in density for recent DBKL district development,
If all the above is true,
Then we shall now putting our money on current sub sale property with low density.
Eventually, it will appreciate at the higher pace than those lining up to launch for the upcoming year(s)!
True or not?
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post Oct 10 2016, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 10 2016, 10:18 PM)
I thought condo/apartment value dropping/stagnant if it's "already too old".... please correct me if I'm wrong.

Or we're talking about landed??
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Either high rise or landed,
As far as low density,
The demand will still better than those "new", but high density...
Anyway, it's only my personal experienced.
Especially, for high rise, it has too many aspect need to be considered.....

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post Oct 10 2016, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 10 2016, 10:05 PM)
Most people lack knowledge, opportunity and resources to get higher income, and are blinded by greed out of desperation, more and more will venture into scam and even more people fall into scam.
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Fully agreed with you.
Sometimes,I feel pity that they being con for their hard earn money..... ranting.gif
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post Oct 11 2016, 09:20 PM

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The planned supply for 5000units affordable home in Bdr Malaysia is not uncommon considering the land size as well as major infrastructure and transportation hub for next ten years...to be able to cater for it.

It cannot compare with Bkt Jalil (although both are KL Address) that currently already suffered with very serious traffic jam and still,
DBKL allowing high density and plot ratio development...
I have been stayed in Bkt Jalil for past ten years and can only tell you that the traffic conditions here are getting seriously jam, especially earlier morning.

Hope those DBKL has really asked developers to conduct traffic management system and planning.
So far, those small development like Skyworld, Havre, Exsim all can get away from proving this study...
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post Oct 12 2016, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(-TcT- @ Oct 12 2016, 11:53 AM)
Yup. Subsale condo units will be impacted greatly due to this massive incoming supply.
The game has changed!
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Exactly, when all these pre plan supply coming and lining up,
The first to be affected is subsale.
Unless there is occupier to own stay,
Otherwise, new development will be more attractive for purchasers.
If this market is depending on occupier,
The traffic condition is the first thing to turn down the deal...
Eventually, developer, DBKL, Land owners are all winners....
Who's suffered?

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post Oct 12 2016, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(kayweng @ Oct 12 2016, 06:28 PM)
if DBKL want to develop the bukit jalil, they will do something. Nobody can predict the future ... hopefully coming up events and strategies make the city better ! I try to think positive :/
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Bro, ten years back, according to DBKL RT2020,
Bkt Jalil already categorized under major development southern corridor.
Now that DBKL shall fully aware the traffic condition of Bkt Jalil as Residential association of Bkt Jalil already meeting DBKL mayor officially for several times to discuss traffic chaos condition (ever since the VP of Sean BesaR LRT).
But until todate, still no solution......
Again, DBKL keeping approving high density project and also sell part of the land in the park to Skyworld.
What you all think?

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post Oct 12 2016, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Oct 12 2016, 08:17 PM)
I think so too. Those who bought condo to flip or rent will be impacted by these affordable housing scheme. Good for new home owner for own stay. ..
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That's why, eventually, your return on investment is all depending on "how fast" you being able to flip it.
Affordable components really affected a lot of investors
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post Oct 12 2016, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Oct 12 2016, 08:21 PM)
Just to correct abit. The SkyLuxe has two plots and both plots are originally not part of Park master title. The lands used to be owned by Berjaya and then sold for petrol station and service, which subsequently changed hand to today.
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Thanks for your correction.
But still not suppose to allowing for conversion from Petrol station to high density service Apartment without taking into consideration of traffic condition

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post Oct 12 2016, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Oct 12 2016, 08:28 PM)
The land was for commercial use hence the proposed petrol station etc. Same as most lands fronting Jalan Jalil Perkasa 1. The developer basically just applied a competitive plot ratio (places further away even got higher) and there you go serviced apartments.
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But base on the land title,
The Petrol station land is for limited commercial use (Kegunaan Perdagangan Terhad),
DBKL has got every right to prevent the application and apply to increase plot ratio.
I am very sure that Service Apartment is under (activity tidak dibenarkan) under limited commercial used under (Syarat Nyata) of the land use.

Sorry, bro....my language become rojak already


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post Oct 13 2016, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Oct 13 2016, 04:45 PM)
there is such a thing known as "tukar syarat nyata".
or change in category of use.

otherwise, no developer would be foolish enough to buy without knowing the potential of the land.

remember that entire pj sect 13 also re-gazetted from industrial to commercial?
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Cannot compare with Seksyen 13 because this area of got special provision under Rancangan Kawasan Khas RKK in MBPJ that published officially and transparent enough...

But this one piece of Skyworld land is not publish to Public...
Only DBKL kNow, Skyworld know, u don't know, I don't know... hehe

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post Oct 23 2016, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 23 2016, 02:00 AM)
I thought most rumawip + beside condo = 3xx or more per acre.
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You tough and actual is different.
You won't be able to find more than 300++/acre for residential title condominium.
Unless what u mentioned are those Service Residence with commercial title which are measure by Plot Ratio.

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post Mar 19 2017, 09:00 AM

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The rule of thumb for number of lift require,
Is calculated by every 90units require 1 passenger lift.
The waiting time for lift need to also consider in-out factor as well as travelling time...
Those m and e enginer will know what I means...
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QUOTE(LiNKInPaRk108 @ Mar 19 2017, 11:03 AM)
Any idea what lift brand AK use?
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Bro,

This Jalilmas wip still very long way to go...
I believe they have not even finalising NSC contractors brows.gif


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