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Investment THE HAVRE @ BUKIT JALIL | RESIDENSI JALILMAS [OT], The Benchmark of Ownership in KL

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post Sep 12 2016, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 12 2016, 08:26 AM)
For resi....still can use unit density?

These days units are getting smaller....therefore higher density.

How do council control density ratio for so called office but generally used as resi like those sovo or sofo?
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SOHO or SOVO or Service Apartment or Service Residence all controlled by plot ratio already.

That's why, even with smaller size, but not affected since is not measure by density.

Only Condo and Apartment (purely residential with no retail and commercial activity), is measure by density.

Havre is definitely by density because is resi land title and condominium status.

Exam, Under Guideline for Perancangan Pembangunan Negeri Selangor,

Under Zone A (MBPJ, MBSA, MBAJ, MPKJ, MPS..)
Maximum density for Condomium biasa is 60unit/acres
Maximum density for Medium cost apartment (Pangsapuri kos sederhana) is 70unit/acres
Maximum density for Low cost apartment (pangsapuri cost rendah) is 80-120unit/acres

In DBKL, it is not unusual for Developer via Town Planner to apply to increase the density in order to make the development viable, particularly to off set for higher land cost, building construction cost, local and common infrastructure costs, statutory cost..provisional for Rumah SelangorKU..and most importantly, their anticipated profit margin..

The only thing usually DBKL ask for is $$$$$$ (contribution) after their meeting and developers must pay the contribution (receipt) together with KM submission.
As such, one of the reason why the property prices getting higher is partly due to this additional cost imposed.
If wanted to get away from building rumahWIP and PRIMA?
No problem, just pay the fine.....



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post Sep 12 2016, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Sep 12 2016, 10:50 AM)
Lets REVIEW Harve inBOLD n also highlight how 50% of units here are AFFORDABLE HOUSING at HALF the price u pay!
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Good . This had provide some basis for those who interested to know how this development compare with surrounding environment and properties.

Base on your review, can we presume this development is high density either measure by the project it self as well as by the surrounding area.
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post Sep 15 2016, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(emyght2016 @ Sep 15 2016, 11:12 AM)
how's the take up..? passed thru, i think the land looks like a small valley towards the htc, interesting to see whether this project can price to the finish line.. the more i look at it, the other part of bj towards oug i.e. wct's paradigm, may make the cut better.. but guess all down to home-buyers' / investors' budget due to the pricing gap..
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Yes, you are right.
The land is exactly the valley located next HTC PYLON.
In term of Feng Shui, some may not really like valley land due to QI 气 been trapped and unable to flow smoothly.
But anyway, this is personal preference....
Eventually all depend on market and price factors.
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post Sep 17 2016, 04:15 PM

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Look like this development has encountered some issues particularly due to th unfavourablee location.
A good lesson for Kayamas.
Not all valley land can turn into gold mine.

Nowadays, it's not uncommon for most of the developer's want to roll 10million cash flow into 200million. But if the PBT is lower than 25% and with less than 60% taking up rate...
Prepare to get ready to sell their asset for funding the remaining 50% of the development cost..
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post Sep 18 2016, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(keneeth111 @ Sep 18 2016, 10:42 PM)
DS4 boss,

mind to share what issues they encountered?
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It would be good if you can take sometime to read earlier post.
Use your own judgement.
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post Sep 20 2016, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(ck2chan @ Sep 19 2016, 10:51 PM)
Do you think how early people will Q at their office before the official launch and choose units?
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Yes. Particularly to avoid unit facing HTC and proposed Cemerty.

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post Sep 20 2016, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(47100 @ Sep 19 2016, 09:47 AM)
any source for your claim? tq tq~
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This is world of business.
Funding is always key challenges,
Sufficient cash flow to fund the development is critical.
Of corse, it must not be necessary refer to this development. cool2.gif

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post Sep 23 2016, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(ck2chan @ Sep 21 2016, 08:56 PM)
Part time opportunity
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You are smart....
Tough of part time opportunities.
Book those unit facing Lai Ming first....

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post Sep 27 2016, 06:51 AM

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QUOTE(edwardthun @ Sep 27 2016, 12:27 AM)
From my perspective for this project...if for own stay, you have to calm yourself not to believe those HTC will harm your health, and not believe those feng shui stuff at all especially the future cemetery...despite if you get the unit facing opposite of HTC and cemetery, the distance of HTC and unit is still below 100m...for investment purpose, BJ will be mix township with all the races and has too many surrounding projects...all low, middle and high end ppl will be there, so your subsales in future will be very tough, especially this project has the killing point like HTC and future cemetery...when ppl has affordability, they definitely not to choose this project with HTC and future cemetery, since they got so many choices of other projects at that area...just my 2 cents
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To be Frank. The distance between HTC boundary and lot boundary line of this development is 0m (side by side)

However, under TNB requirements, the minimum distance from the Pylon leg to ant building structure need a minimum set back of 100ft.

Within this 100ft buffer zone, there shall be no any structure, utilities, such like water pipe and even road and drainage.

If HARVE TO PAVILION IS ClaimED TO BE 300M , THE DISTANCE BETWEEN HTC TO HARVE CANNOT BE 100M

WILL DEFINITELY BE LESS THAN THAT.

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post Sep 27 2016, 10:00 PM

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At the first place,
This project can get the approved density of more than 300unit/acres
Already broke Malaysia Genius World Record already....
Is the FIRST HIGHEST DENSITY in Malaysia for average unit size 1000psf
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post Oct 1 2016, 06:42 AM

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QUOTE(Maneki-neko @ Sep 30 2016, 09:21 PM)
U can hang your clothes on the wire after washing  biggrin.gif
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Roger.
Than will be "dry fast" or "die fast" rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 7 2016, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Oct 7 2016, 09:58 AM)
I am not buying la.
Looking at the crowd....it looks like buyers dont care about the HTC and potential cemetery.
HTC is for sure there...cemetery is in the plan only. Plan can be changed easily especially if some cash rich developers come and bid up the price for the 'proposed cemetery land'. DBKL can easily rezone the land and assigned another land nearby to be cemetery land e.g. Puncak Jalil area.
Cant blame those Havre buyers...Havre selling around $540psf with approx 7% rebates vs the Park 2 at Pav BJ at i think $800psf.
Besides, the Harve is located in between LRT and Pav BJ and Lai meng school. Some people see 'value' there despite it being super close to HTC and proposed cemetery.
I think most people will choose the units facing east.
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Sorry to inform DBKL is not in authority to rezoned cemetery reserve with getting approval of DBKL Structure plan amendment.
Swapping the land in puncak Jalil is also not possible as this called under MPSJ territory already...

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post Oct 7 2016, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(tangent88 @ Oct 7 2016, 02:19 PM)
those land has been wakaf sebagai tanah kubur can say no way for degazetted back. U hav to get approval from JAIS, JAKIM and many many islam organization, societies  in order to get the land swap to others land. (pls correct me if im wrong my muslim friend) The process is 10 x difficult than u wanna build a residence on a malay reverse land and open the 20% quote to non malay.
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Agreed with u.
When come into Tanah Perkuburan, Chinese Cemetery or anything related to religion.
It is sensitive and process become even more complicated if issues is politicalise....

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post Oct 7 2016, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Oct 7 2016, 08:02 PM)
If that's the case based on DS4 and tangent88 feedback.....May the force be with the Havre buyers.
They will really need a lot of luck then. We will see how this turn out in the next few years.
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Thanks. Whatever is it,
I believe all buyers have had their own perception in determining future land use for the surrounding area.
It is not in my position to comments too much especially on future land use.
(But currently, really gazetted under Tanah Perkuburan)
Actually, time pass a lot of thing may change and solely depending on person who holding powers...


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post Oct 8 2016, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(Yamy @ Oct 8 2016, 08:36 AM)
Will see in future along HTC will be all Affordable home....Havre...Earth...Casa Green...TMNT or X-Men coming soon!
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Yeah.....
Future if you wish to look for affordable home,
Just need to survey along HTC alignment in Google map.....👍👍👍
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post Oct 8 2016, 09:26 AM

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Very very good response considering current market conditions
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post Oct 8 2016, 11:56 AM

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This is the power of property investment.
Regarding student and Bangladesh,
It has created some part time job opportunities.
In fact, any new high density development launching recently,
Majority are part of the next year election fund.
If you brought one, congratulation that you also support the current BN government in part of the fund raising process....
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 8 2016, 12:24 PM)
one is township builder in ulu places...one is just to get the public to support BN... i guess the main diff would be here... haha....
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Haha...only you get my point.
Support this Havre, support BN👍

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post Oct 8 2016, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 8 2016, 04:38 PM)
Looking at the crowd, most likely very limited units available..
U may try luck blush.gif
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No wonder a lot of ppl in this thread also wish purchaser "good luck"

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post Oct 8 2016, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(SSblack @ Oct 8 2016, 06:36 PM)
Still got plenty left over for facing HTC unit, for those facing lai Meng school are seeking fast, I got number 7xx but end up didn't buy, haha. Just went there for free ice cream and food
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Look like u r the smartest investors.😃


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