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TSMerlin MY
post Jan 10 2007, 11:13 PM, updated 19y ago

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I'm using a Zyxel P-334WT router and I can't host MP for GOW because of the "STRICT" status which I'm getting for my NAT. I'm already opened port 88 and 3074 but I'm still having a "STRICT" status for my NAT. Other than changing to a new router, is there a solution to this? Anyone else using a Zyxel?
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post Jan 10 2007, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Merlin MY @ Jan 10 2007, 11:13 PM)
I'm using a Zyxel P-334WT router and I can't host MP for GOW because of the "STRICT" status which I'm getting for my NAT. I'm already opened port 88 and 3074 but I'm still having a "STRICT" status for my NAT. Other than changing to a new router, is there a solution to this? Anyone else using a Zyxel?
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i used to have this problem as well but doing port forwarding should open up ur nut nat.

set your xbox360 to have a static ip first before forwarding the ports, which is TCP 88, TCP 3074, and UDP 3074 smile.gif
TSMerlin MY
post Jan 11 2007, 12:51 AM

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ahchak, i've set the static ip also already and the forwarded the ports. no change in the results.
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post Jan 11 2007, 12:54 AM

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Have you tried DMZ your xbox ip and set the DNS as well into your Xbox DNS setting?
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post Jan 11 2007, 12:59 AM

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Some modems just dun seem to like Xbox Live compatible. You should check the list on www.xbox.com

EDIT : Link to Xbox Live Compatible Routers

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post Jan 11 2007, 01:22 AM

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disable Firewall setting of Zyxel should help.
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post Jan 11 2007, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(ferricide @ Jan 11 2007, 12:59 AM)
Some modems just dun seem to like Xbox Live compatible. You should check the list on www.xbox.com

EDIT : Link to Xbox Live Compatible Routers
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my home build ClarkConnect Router, which is my old pc which i installed and it became a router, worked like a charm. I don't think that's Xbox Live Compatible, no? laugh.gif

hmm.. TS, try to disable your router's firewall and try again..
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post Jan 11 2007, 09:32 AM

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as long as ur router do forwarding, i think it should be 'compatible', just that u might need to manually tweak them, as for microsoft 'compatible' router, it simply means they tested with it, and it work automatically usually.
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post Jan 11 2007, 11:33 AM

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Sorry to disturb...just want to get some idea here...

What can when wrong if my XBOX360 could not detect my linksys wrt54g ip address. I've set my router settings to DHCP enable.

If just using my streamyx model, no problem at all....??


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post Jan 11 2007, 11:52 AM

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I've done portforwarding, disabled router firewall, set static ip, manual dns but still can't host a mp game for GOW. i'm missing something but i don't know what and it's driving me nuts!
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post Jan 11 2007, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE
Sorry to disturb...just want to get some idea here...

What can when wrong if my XBOX360 could not detect my linksys wrt54g ip address. I've set my router settings to DHCP enable.

If just using my streamyx model, no problem at all....??

did u set a static ip for ur 360? and did a portforward or assign ur 360 to be in DMZ?

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post Dec 31 2008, 03:59 PM

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I've done portforwarding, disabled router firewall, set static ip, manual dns but still can't host a mp game for GOW. i'm missing something but i don't know what and it's driving me nuts!


hey merlin how did yo solve your problem, now the issue is happening to me.

i'm using a Belkin FD58633-4 v1 (Wireness N modem router)

anyone? help?

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post Dec 31 2008, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Merlin MY @ Jan 11 2007, 11:52 AM)
I've done portforwarding, disabled router firewall, set static ip, manual dns but still can't host a mp game for GOW. i'm missing something but i don't know what and it's driving me nuts!
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how but DMZ??
have u tried it??
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post Dec 31 2008, 06:34 PM

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Yeah I tried DMZ already and NAT is still strict...i dont know if i am doing it right..but i opened some ports (???)

check attached picture below...:
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this is the setting on my xbox...:
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anyone can help me? belkin users anyone?
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post Dec 31 2008, 06:43 PM

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Try this :http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Belkin/F5D8633-4/Xbox_Live_360.htm

hopefully it helps...
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post Dec 31 2008, 07:41 PM

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The last thing you can do is putting IP at DMZ . But to be honest , bad news for your Zyxel modem . Ive deal with many modems before , and it seems that Zyxel has the worst compatibility with Xbox LIVE , because I could never get anything other than Strict NAT with the modem .


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post Jan 1 2009, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Dec 31 2008, 07:41 PM)
The last thing you can do is putting IP at DMZ . But to be honest , bad news for your Zyxel modem . Ive deal with many modems before , and it seems that Zyxel has the worst compatibility with Xbox LIVE , because I could never get anything other than Strict NAT with the modem .
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I'm not using Zyxel modem. actually this thread was started by someone else a long time ago...and i just posted my problem here again coz i did a search and found this thread..so i though no need to start a new thread.

I'm actually using a Belkin F5D8633-4 v1

any advice?

btw ventriloquist, i think i did those steps already? (check my attached pictures above) doesn't seem to work for me...did i do it wrongly? have a look see and let me know?
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post Jan 1 2009, 12:12 PM

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I'm not sure why u use 192.168.2.1 for ur gateway (maybe because im using D-Link and my gateway is 192.168.1.1 and before this im using 192.168.0.1) but what i couldn't understand is ur DNS

Try this :

Streamyx DNS :
PRIMARY : 202.188.0.133
SECONDARY : 202.188.1.5

OpenDNS (currently using since i don't trust Slowmyx/Snailmyx)
PRIMARY : 208.67.222.222
SECONDARY : 208.67.220.220

don't forget to chance the DNS setting at ur router...
Hope its fix ur problem, if not try set DNS to auto

*EDIT : Stupid typo...and another typo...haihh...*

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post Jan 1 2009, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(ventriloquist @ Jan 1 2009, 12:12 PM)
I'm not sure why u use 192.168.2.1 for ur gateway (maybe because im using D-Link and my gateway is 192.168.1.1 and before this im using 192.168.0.1) but what i couldn't understand is ur DNS

Try this :

Streamyx DNS :
PRIMARY      : 202.188.0.133
SECONDARY : 202.188.1.5

OpenDNS (currently using since i don't trust Slowmyx/Snailmyx)
PRIMARY      : 208.67.222.222
SECONDARY : 208.67.220.220

don't forget to chance the DNS setting at ur router...
Hope its fix ur problem, if not try set DNS to auto
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i tried both, and its still strict.. in my router i put the same DNS as what i put in xbox right? both primary and secondary? if i use openDNS on xbox, i should put openDNS for router too?
also weirdly, when i switch my dns to auto on xbox but leave the streamyx DNS in my router, i cant even connect to the internet on xbox. is this suppose to happen?

thanks anyways for the dns!


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post Jan 1 2009, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(kaypopotamus @ Jan 1 2009, 07:18 PM)
i tried both, and its still strict.. in my router i put the same DNS as what i put in xbox right? both primary and secondary? if i use openDNS on xbox, i should put openDNS for router too?
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It's not necessary. If you use manual settings, the DNS on the xbox will override whatever you put in the router.

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also weirdly, when i switch my dns to auto on xbox but leave the streamyx DNS in my router, i cant even connect to the internet on xbox. is this suppose to happen?

Assuming that every other setting is correct, that should not happen.

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post Jan 1 2009, 07:45 PM

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Dah try firmware upgrade ke belum? cuba la upgrade firmware kalau ada latest, mana tau boleh selesai kan masalah ni.
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post Jan 2 2009, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Jan 1 2009, 07:42 PM)
It's not necessary. If you use manual settings, the DNS on the xbox will override whatever you put in the router.
Assuming that every other setting is correct, that should not happen.
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QUOTE(Mr Ez @ Jan 1 2009, 07:45 PM)
Dah try firmware upgrade ke belum? cuba la upgrade firmware kalau ada latest, mana tau boleh selesai kan masalah ni.
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cannavaro - i dont know why is it happening? probably you could figure it out instead? I set my IP to manual and all, DNS to AUTO (dns is auto in router as well) but in xbox live test, I can get to my wireless modem, but not the internet.

Mr Ez - dah, i baru je update but cannot also.

By the way, just thought I want to share this info, if you have the Belkin F5D8633-4 model like I do, you cant find the firmware update on belkin.com, you can find it in belkin.com/uk

Guys, i'm about to yank my hair out already? can anyone figure out what I should do? I have tried putting everything on Auto and turning on uPnP on my router. that WILL NOT show strict. However, when playing its still the same, cant join games and all as though it is Strict. I read somewhere that others experience the same as well.

How do you check NAT status anyways? I only how to see if its Strict coz the freaking error comes up.
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post Jan 2 2009, 02:59 PM

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Friend, im totally lost and had no more idea how to solve ur problem since i don't have the same router as your but why don't you try emailing Belkin and tell them in complete details whats your problem and what u have done to fix it. Send them altogether with screen shot might help. At least now i know that if i want to buy replacement for my current router i won't buy belkin...
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QUOTE(kaypopotamus @ Dec 31 2008, 06:34 PM)
Yeah I tried DMZ already and NAT is still strict...i dont know if i am doing it right..but i opened some ports (???)

check attached picture below...:
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this is the setting on my xbox...:
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I just noticed. This is not DMZ. This is port forwarding.
If DMZ doesn't work, I don't know what will. rclxub.gif

DMZ is simple. You put your xbox ip on DMZ, all of the ports will be opened.
Not a wise thing to do on your internet enabled PC though.

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post Jan 3 2009, 03:54 PM

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yeah thats exactly what i did, i emailed belkin and i got another firmware update. i'm just going to try putting everything on Auto and letting uPnP do the job. see how that goes then i'll let you guys know again..

cannavaro, so DMZ means i leave it on auto and i put whatever ip it assigns me as dmz? yeah i also would like to stay away from dmz if possible
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To use DMZ you must set up a static ip address on your xbox. For example if you put your ip on the xbox as 192.168.1.360, all you have to do to enable DMZ is go to the DMZ tab and simple add 192.168.1.360. Then save and reboot router. For some models you don't have to reboot though.
Something like this:
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No worries man, no hacker in the right mind would waste his time in trying to gain access to your console. Besides, the architecture is totally different, AFAIK the 360 is not even capable to be used as 'zombies' (as armies for DDoS attacks or such) as they call it. If all else fails DMZ is the way to go.






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post Jan 5 2009, 12:11 AM

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thanks cannavaro, will try that later smile.gif

anyways, right now i'm just on all Auto with uPnP enabled. doesn't give me a strict NAT but somehow still the same. I also think maybe its too soon to judge right now right? since some major internet cable gone faulty about a week ago?

anyways, yeah i will try the DMZ again...if it works, does it mean the NAT Strict error wont appear?
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post Jan 5 2009, 04:05 PM

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i had the same issue with my linksys wireless modem router before. tried portforwarding and all the possible settings, but i still got a strict NAT. i guess some routers arent 100% compatible with xbox live.

finally i gave up and just dmz-ed my 360 and the NAT is always open now. like some have said here, putting yr 360 in the dmz is relatively quite ok.


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post Jan 5 2009, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(thurtin @ Jan 5 2009, 04:05 PM)
i had the same issue with my linksys wireless modem router before. tried portforwarding and all the possible settings, but i still got a strict NAT. i guess some routers arent 100% compatible with xbox live.

finally i gave up and just dmz-ed my 360 and the NAT is always open now. like some have said here, putting yr 360 in the dmz is relatively quite ok.
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I just plugged my laptop... compatible all the time.., just afraid to buy the wifi set, if not working with my Belkin 2in1 router...

Have anyone try, connect with proxy, maybe playing XBL at your office... just wondering. Does it work

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post Jan 13 2009, 05:50 PM

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My son keep complaining that the strict nat is inhibiting his games. Finally I played around with the settings on the Zycel modem and somehow managed to get it to open nat. You have to do some port forwarding. If you interested I can check my model for the setting.s

 

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