A good link to discover the difference between Kia Grand Carnival and Kia Sorento 2.2 Diesel.

http://kensomuse.com/blog/2017/07/27/kia-g...-people-movers/

Kia Ranks Highest among Brands for Second Consecutive Year

COSTA MESA, Calif.: 21 June 2017 — New-vehicle quality is at its highest level ever, improving a significant 8% from last year, according to the J.D. Power 2017 U.S. Initial Quality Study,SM (IQS) released today.

Initial quality in this iconic study is measured by the number of problems experienced per 100 vehicles (PP100) during the first 90 days of ownership, with a lower score reflecting higher quality. In this year’s study, quality improves across seven of the eight categories measured, with 27 of the 33 brands in the study improving their quality compared with 2016.

“Automotive manufacturers are responding to consumer feedback and producing vehicles of the highest quality,” said Dave Sargent, vice president, global automotive at J.D. Power. “The industry has improved significantly in each of the past three years. Today’s vehicles have more things that could go wrong but fewer things that actually do go wrong.”

Following are some of the study’s key findings:

Technology improving but still problematic: Audio/communication/entertainment/navigation (ACEN) remains the area where new-vehicle owners experience the most problems. However, this category shows the most improvement since 2016 with a score of 22.8 PP100, or 2.7 PP100 better than last year.
Early warning bells for autonomous technology: The only category to worsen this year is features, controls and displays. The largest increases in problems are for cruise control (primarily adaptive cruise); lane departure warning; collision avoidance/alert systems; and blind spot warning. These features comprise some of the building blocks of autonomous vehicles, and an increasing number of consumer-reported problems sounds warning bells for automakers and suppliers. Consumers will need to be convinced that these systems are foolproof before they will give up driving control to autonomous vehicles.
Domestic brands continue to show improvement: The “Detroit Three” outperform import brands for the second year in a row but for only the third time since the study was first published in 1987. In 2017, domestic brands receive a score of 93 PP100 compared with 99 PP100 for import brands. Last year, domestic brands also had fewer problems (103 PP100) compared with import brands (106 PP100).
“The Initial Quality Study continues to demonstrate the critical importance of automakers responding to consumer feedback regarding vehicle quality,” Sargent said. “Any automaker that stands still will quickly start to fall behind. For consumers, the great news is that significant improvements are occurring in all model segments, meaning that you don’t have to spend a lot of money to get a quality vehicle.”

Highest-Ranked Brands

Kia ranks highest in overall initial quality for a second consecutive year with a score of 72 PP100.

Genesis (77 PP100) ranks second overall followed by Porsche (78 PP100). Ford and Ram (86 PP100) tie for fourth.

MINI is the most improved brand, with owners reporting 33 PP100 fewer problems than in 2016. Other brands with strong improvement include Ram (28 PP100 improvement), Acura (19), Volvo (18) and Ford (16).

Segment-Leading Models

The parent company receiving the most model-level awards for its various brands is Hyundai Motor Co. (five model-level awards), followed by General Motorsand BMW, each with four.

Hyundai Motor Co. models that rank highest in their respective segments are the Kia Cadenza; Kia Forte; Kia Niro; Kia Sorento; and Kia Soul.
General Motors models that rank highest in their segments are the Chevrolet Silverado; Chevrolet Silverado HD; Chevrolet Sonic; and GMC Terrain.
BMW models that rank highest in their segments are the BMW 2 Series; BMW 4 Series; BMW X6; and MINI Cooper.
Other models that rank highest in their respective segments are the Chrysler Pacifica; Ford Expedition; Ford Mustang; Infiniti QX80; Lexus GS; Mercedes-Benz GLA; Nissan Frontier; Porsche 911; Porsche Macan; and Toyota Camry.

Plant Quality Awards

Toyota Motor Corp.’s Kyushu 2 plant (Japan), which produces the Lexus ES and Lexus RX, receives the Platinum Plant Quality Award for producing models with the fewest defects or malfunctions. Plant quality awards are based solely on defects and malfunctions and exclude design-related problems. General Motors’ Fort Wayne (Ind.) plant, which produces the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra, receives the Gold Plant Quality Award for the Americas region, while Porsche’s Leipzig plant, which produces the Porsche Cayenne and Macan, receives the Gold Plant Quality Award for the Europe/Africa region.

Historical Notes

In 1987, when the IQS was first published, Mercedes-Benz ranked highest as a nameplate while the Toyota Cressida was the highest-ranked model.
Domestic brands have scored better than imports in only three years (2010, 2016 and 2017).
Mass market brands have scored better than premium brands in only three years (2006, 2016 and 2017).
There have been four generations of the study (IQS1: 1987-1997; IQS2: 1998-2005; IQS3: 2006-2012; IQS4: 2013-present). The industry has shown significant improvement in each iteration, with the best IQS scores occurring in the most recent year for each generation.
The U.S. Initial Quality Study is based on responses from nearly 80,000 purchasers and lessees of new 2017 model-year vehicles who were surveyed after 90 days of ownership. The study is based on a 233-question battery organized into eight problem categories designed to provide manufacturers with information to facilitate the identification of problems and drive product improvement. The study was fielded from February through May 2017.

Find detailed information on vehicle quality, as well as model photos and specs, at jdpower.com/quality

For more information about the 2017 U.S. Initial Quality Study, visit http://www.jdpower.com/resource/us-initial-quality-study-iqs

J.D. Power is a global leader in consumer insights, advisory services and data and analytics. These capabilities enable J.D. Power to help its clients drive customer satisfaction, growth and profitability. Established in 1968, J.D. Power is headquartered in Costa Mesa, Calif., and has offices serving North/South America, Asia Pacific and Europe. J.D. Power is a portfolio company of XIO Group, a global alternative investments firm headquartered in London, and is led by its four founders: Athene Li, Joseph Pacini, Murphy Qiao and Carsten Geyer.


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Hopefully the facelift will come to Malaysia. This facelift with rims and color looks quite good


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malaysia unit have panoramic sunroof?

Malaysian specs don't have sun roof. Facelift has not arrived at our shore yet by the way.

FL also dont have sun roof?

FL has not been launched yet in Malaysia, no one can confirm because nothing on the specs has been decided. But there is now a good offer for current Sorento 2.4 Petrol MS version (limited time, limited stock basis), kindly check my sales thread for more info.

2 day Merdeka SPECIAL DEALS from 19th to 20th August only
Sorento 2.4 petrol MS at only 146,888 (OTR without Insurance)
Don't miss this great opportunity to own this highly acclaimed SUV !!

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Is the comparison here between the ls and hs correct?
https://www.carbase.my/car-comparison?id=Fr...VGXq,CFaWCDdcUw,

The ls is heavier and has auto start stop but the hs does not?

After the hu, leather seats and reverse camera upgrade for ls model, what other things which the hs has over the ls?
Super vision cluster, 19 " rim, power seats, 3rd row vents, 2nd row shades. Am I missing anything else?

This post has been edited by mystvearn: Aug 20 2017, 11:36 PM

LS & HS should be of more or less the same weight. ISG (Idle Stop & Go) is also available in the HS diesel.

HS extras are
1) Auto Tail gate
2) LED rear combination lamp
3) HID head lamp
4) Shark Fin antenna
5) 7 inch TFT Color LCD , LS one is 3.5 inch mono color
6) Bluetooth and voice command on steering in the HS
7) Rear windows sunshade blind
8) 3rd row aircon on HS , LS no 3rd row aircon
9) Power driver & front passenger seat on HS , LS is manual only
10 ) Auto up/down power windows (HS all windows, LS driver window only)

You can wait for the facelift if not urgent, or get the current version since they are giving good discount.

I believe the next round Kia brings in they will not be selling the LS model anymore and might just go with the MS or HS.

13xxxx for SUV with this size and power train, don't think it will ever happen for other brands especially in Malaysia.

1. Nice to have. Not sure if can retrofit after purchase.
2. This should be a simple swap with current lights right? I have seen the sorento forum where they are selling aftermarket led lights. http://www.kia-forums.com/#/topics/260353
3. Same with no. 2.
4. This is a simple upgrade. Just style. Not bothered about it.
5. I thought you provided hu upgrade? Or is this the meter cluster?
6. Have used it though not a fan of it especially when everyone in the car hear or wakes up.
7. Nice to have. Not sure if can retrofit. Only problem I see that will this thing become saggy after prolonged use? Another problem is that is it possible to replace. Small kids will pull this out.
8. Not a problem for me but I can see this is a deal breaker for people who use the 3rd row frequently.
9. Manual is fine as long as it has lumbar support. Does it have it?
10. As long as the driver has it, should be fine.

Why is the ls heavier than the hs? Should be other way round right?

Based on previous kia Malaysia facelift updates, it will come around a year. So 2018

Wish to get myself this Sorento 2.2 Diesel

But HS seems to be too expensive and yet very equipped
Can you guys advice which parts from HS can be retrofitted into LS without voiding the warranty ?
Is RM135k deal includes the insurance ?

It is possible to
1) upgrade to leather seat
2) change the head unit to one with GPS, DVD player & reverse camera

So far, not possible to add / upgrade
1) 3rd row Aircon vent
2) auto tail gate

Limited pre-reg units in BLACK still available. At this price point, it is truly value for money.

Hi, can you quote me with 1) upgrade to leather seat & 2) change the head unit to one with GPS, DVD player & reverse camera & 3) Ice cube fog light?

By the way, will this Electric Tailgate Lift Assist System TL105 work on the Sorento UM. Will it void the warranty?

Please check my PM. Thanks

HiHi,

Can quote me also?
the above addons + the 19" alloys

Thank you :-)

Sure, please check my PM to you. Rgds.

How many colours is the sorento? Kia Malaysia website does not tell much. Black, silver, white, bronze? Bronze available on ls as well?