Both University of East London and London Metropolitan University are accredited by LAM. Anything accredited by LAM is accredited by PAM as well. Go HERE to find out more about accredited schools.

Don't bother about RIBA. Instead, look for ARB. ARB is the board that accredits schools and they are the one you would need to register with for Part 1, 2 & 3 in UK, not RIBA. RIBA is an institute much like PAM, but in UK (and almost everywhere else except Malaysia), you don't need to register with RIBA to get Part 1, 2 & 3.

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Added on December 15, 2007, 11:19 pmOh, and both UEL and LMU are accredited schools under ARB.

This post has been edited by clayclws: Dec 15 2007, 11:19 PM

You do what you have with your time. It is listed FULLTIME since the university said the program is so. If you are free, no classes, then go work if you want to. As long as you follow the program laid out by the University, then it's fine. But I assure you, Architecture is supremely hectic. No time for work...at least not during the semester.

Another thing about FULLTIME, some universities, especially overseas, offer programs that can be done PARTTIME, mostly Masters and such. Some even offered PARTTIME and FULLTIME, your choice to make. I saw this within some universities in UK at the BritishCouncil's Education@UK exhibition.

Not only that Benjamin911, architecture will require you to spend a hell lot of money for printing, camera, computer, materials, models, etc. If you can't afford it, study locally or go Singapore

It ain't a big deal unless you are into photography and the arts of visual architecture. Getting a normal digicam is enough. I recommend Canon

This post has been edited by clayclws: Dec 16 2007, 12:32 AM

Not so sure about that jamesngui. have to refer to azarimy to explain. LAM's website didn't accredit LUCT...

1. Yeah, if you plan to study overseas, WORK overseas as well. Don't study there and come back. You'll only be worth something here if you have the experience.

2. My seniors studied locally, worked for 3 years under a notable architect, got lucky, started their own firm designing for expats, and now they are wearing RM3k+ shoes, RM10k+ watches and driving RM300k+ cars. They are very skilled and used the opportunities very well, and of course, extremely lucky to have worked under that particular boss and met those expats. So, you may be in luck and don't have to earn shit...

3. Europe and US...that's where architecture flourishes...at least in my book. Japan is way too expensive to experience. Bosses here pay top dollars for architects from Europe and US...those with experience that is. But usually, as in the case of my seniors, they don't come back after working there. Some even got Part 3 there and settled down...

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Added on December 16, 2007, 11:40 amAnd I really don't get it...why so many Malaysians love Australia? Maybe the exchange rates and the perks are good...but don't you think that Australia is a little too...Asian?

This post has been edited by clayclws: Dec 16 2007, 11:40 AM

That's what I meant...It's very Asian. That's why I would suggest going elsewhere that you can feel an extreme difference

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Added on December 16, 2007, 2:28 pmToo Asian = Very Asian

This post has been edited by clayclws: Dec 16 2007, 02:28 PM

1. You are never too old to be an architect. Unless you succumb to the society's pressure. Do you know that Tadao Ando, a notable architect, worked as a truck driver and boxer before going into architecture, despite never having taken formal training in the field? He is a self-taught architect...

2. Yes, you have to sit for the exams...

Just for everyone's knowledge, as azarimy pointed out on the first page of his post, I think reply number 3 or something...Architectural Schools all differ based upon the direction that the lecturers/architects/tutors want.

A good analogy is fashion. So many types of fashion. If you go to a particular fashion school, you would be tutored under that particular designer's tastes, beliefs and philosophy. It maybe punk, urban, etc. The same goes for architecture.

Normally undergrads take a "year out" (you'll be getting that term a lot overseas) from Part 1 to Part 2. Financially, they study and work like hell - that's how one of my lecturer and another boss of mine survived. There's minimum wage there, around £4.50 per hour (it may be higher now), so, you'll be alright. Study during day, work in afternoon or night...and weekends. But you'll be a workhorse that way. No life apart from architecture and working...but that's cause they want to fund their whole livelihood without asking for a cent from their parents. You can work as waiters/waitresses, cleaners, etc. - all the odd jobs that the locals wouldn't want.

Oh, and one my my bosses, bought a second hand Nissan while he was there. He puts everything he owns in it, park next to the faculty, sleeps in it, eats in it, lives in it (apart from studio) and takes bath in the studio.

This post has been edited by clayclws: Dec 16 2007, 06:21 PM

And so, my turn for questions, Azarimy, how do cope with Masters and PhD in UK? Do you work there? I'm thinking of going over there as well. Funding myself if possible.

Year Out = one year in between Part 1 and Part 2 whereby the Part 1 graduates would go work in architectural firms. It is a requirement in UK to get Part 2, if I'm not mistaken.

If you are PREPARED and WILLING to STUDY AND WORK like HELL with PASSION...you'll be handsomely rewarded, mate Bersusah-susah dahulu, bersenang-senang kemudian.

Note, best to find work in a shop whereby they do material design (graphics on paper). You can master Photoshop or the likes quickly and if lucky, the bosses will always let you use the tools or extra papers for your presentation. One of my sensei did that. She was studying in the US, and she worked in a advertisement design company. She recycled all their materials and the boss was kind enough to let her use the machines for her presentation boards and models.

This post has been edited by clayclws: Dec 16 2007, 06:38 PM

Which scholarship did you get? My dad didn't let me go last time because of financial reasons...I need to go there no matter what Stubborn son, I am. Oh, and you're welcome Trying to help people out before they REGRET making the decision to take up Architecture.

Guess I won't be able to apply for that one Hmm...Gotta gain experience, some savings and hopefully, be able to impress some overseas firm then...

Ah yes, always heard that Ireland is an easier route. But I heard Scotland was too...but it's part of UK...hmmm... Well, Ireland is not bad of a choice for a stepping stone. Non-English speaking countries are not good choices for I have no way of communicating. Less, I get to work for OMA Holland

Dream...dream...dream, dream, dream...dream...

This post has been edited by clayclws: Dec 17 2007, 09:27 AM

Unfortunately, nope. Another point to keep in mind is that, she's doing Part 1 and Part 2 in 2 different universities. This will render her accreditation useless as you are only accredited if, and only if you study in the same university (accredited for Part 1 & 2) as the program is completely different for 2 different universities. Correct me if I'm mistaken, azarimy. that's what I've been hearing all along.

In most cases, the education system in private colleges are better. But there are a lot of difference regarding Professional courses such as Doctor, Dentist, Lawyer, Accountant, Engineer, and of course, Architect. UKM and UM produce the finest Doctors in the country (compared to other local universities - private or government). I can't say the same for Architecture but I can tell you that UTM, UM and USM architectural graduates are highly demanded in the industry, based upon personal experience, seniors, friends, and bosses.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Really want to clarrify that as well. Oh, yeah, it's UTM, UM, UiTM and USM (no particular order) - I just missed out on UiTM. A couple of friends from there...really skillful bunch.

You SHOULD choose to remain and practice in Australia

Yes...and I hope she can really cope there...

I think they meant after an undergraduate has finished Part 1, he/she can "transfer" to those universities for Part 2.

Most Diplomas holder...well, actually all Diplomas holder that I know that entered UM had to start from 2nd Year of Part 1. That's UM...I don't know about any other schools.

Taylor's = 3 years
UM Part 1 = 2 years (assuming you start at 2nd year)
UM part 2 = 2 years
Total = 7 years

Since you started off at Taylor's, why not take their partnering program to Melbourne? If finance is the problem, maybe you should start immediately at IPTA?

This post has been edited by clayclws: Dec 19 2007, 05:48 PM

IPTA = Institut Pengajian Tinggi Awam - That's local universities under the government like UM, USM, UTM, UiTM, UKM, UPM, etc.

IPTS = Institut Pengajian Tinggi Swasta - That's private colleges and universities like Taylor's, LUCT, Curtin, KDU, KBU, etc.

If it is not a problem, why not go for it? Melbourne is going to be an enriching experience. Get some part time work if you want to lower your parents' burden.