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TSFlanegan
post Apr 9 2016, 06:12 AM, updated 7y ago

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Since I have nothing to do since I'm back in Malaysia.
Decide to open a new thread and share my experience working in Japan.

Am from Sabah, Ghetto area of Putatan district. Just below the capital city Kota Kinabalu. or where the Airport located at, yup that's literally in Putatan district although the land own by KK City Council.
Am One of the minority where I have to tick "others" or "dan lain-lain" all the time.


Graduate from Australian University, and then out of the blue after working as journalist for a local own-state online news (which is already closed after the GE).
With my 'Follow your bloody heart and go where you wanna go'.

I chose Tokyo as my first step to start my career. The only 'Gaijin' in the creative agencies and lack of Japanese language efficient. It took 3-4 months for me to digest the lifestyle, working culture and understanding their ethical value of daily life.
Somehow, it only lasted for 2 years due to family matters here in Sabah. I have to cancel my visa and working contract and now doing freelance back in KK City.

I will post and share my experience here once in a while.

Nevertheless, if you have any interests or question regarding working or starting a career in Japan (especially creative industry).
Do not hesitate to ask me, will try my best to answer the question.

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As far as I know, there's only 5000 registered Malaysian in Japan.
Majority of them living in Tokyo and Osaka.
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post Apr 9 2016, 06:44 AM

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parking first..this tered maciam best
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post Apr 9 2016, 07:03 AM

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are payment is fine working there?
i heard many working people do not have good life living in japan due to work stress, is it true?

TSFlanegan
post Apr 9 2016, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(Alexander XIII @ Apr 9 2016, 10:03 AM)
are payment is fine working there?
i heard many working people do not have good life living in japan due to work stress, is it true?
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Good Question.

Here's my personal one :

Salary-wise is fine for me, every month or 2, am able to transfer my leftover to my Malaysian bank account. or Sometimes I hold depends on the currency exchange, until the exchange rate stable.

Maybe I got the 'Gaijin' Priviledge so they tend to give me a little bit more freedom and increment 3 months after turning into full-time contract, and then another increment in 6 weeks.
I realize 1 thing about them is, if you're good at what you doing. They appreciate your skills a lot.

Maybe because the Creative Industry is very saturated where jobs come in-and-out like mad.
I'll get stress once in while especially Spring and Winter season. That's the time where all the production going on for upcoming Spring/Summer/Spring/Winter Release.

I've work straight 11 days before in Studio and Outdoor non-stop (3-4 hours break a day, only went home 2 times to take shower) but after that you'll get used to it and the agencies will let us rest for 2-3 days depends on the schedule. The manager will slot rest day for us. But being Japanese, usually they'll only take 1 day break and continue moving on. As for me, I took advantage of the system and take 2 days break, extra 1 day usually I'll explore Tokyo wandering around.

Once a few people recognize you within the industry, I'll get more percentage from any gigs you got assign.
Once in a while in a month I'll get more what I get.

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In General,
Big Corporate Company (The one where most Salaryman and Office-lady works) it's normal for them to stress-out because of 'Senpai-Kouhai Relationship'.
The Japanese hold a very strong traditional value and they seems to accept it althou personally some of them hate it so much. They don't really have the guts to break the 1000years rules and tradition.

After work, it's normal for them to go out to Izakayas with the Boss until late-night because they have to entertain the big boss to maintain their office relationship.
Although the goverment already implement after work, everyone allowed to go home and spend more time with their families. Majority of them still believe office relationship are more important that family relationship.
The local mentality here is very different, sometimes I don't get their common sense. Mind-blowing once in a while!

Once in a while you'll hear a story about a Kouhai got bully in a office. Always got demand to do this and that until the person him/herself doesn't have personal time to relax ended up quitting the job or the worst one commit-suicide because the person can't accept how they treat him/her. or worsts come to worst, some even died from overwork.

Usually this case happen because of Black Company, is a very famous phrase in Japan where most of fresh graduate or Freeter (those who commit working part-time only) avoid those company as much as they can because they know they will overwork and earn less from what they got promise during the interview or in the contract.

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So ya, it depends on personal here.
Since most Japanese I know don't really express themselves and tend to be quite if there's an issue within them. They will keep themselves.
Some able to find a solution to solve the problem and some (usually appear on International News) can't find a solution and bad things happen which is a bum-bum to me.

The Answer is Yes but not in general.
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post Apr 9 2016, 09:36 AM

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Depending on the actual job and what you are going there as too.
I was there 10 years ago, but I dealt with international clients so timing for work and stress differs. I then thought in junior high schools and the stress you face again is different...
Also what you described in your industry is similar to Malaysia's own creative agencies, so really not much difference eh.

Great to see people exploring the world. :-)
TSFlanegan
post Apr 9 2016, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(jonnyha @ Apr 9 2016, 12:36 PM)
Depending on the actual job and what you are going there as too.
I was there 10 years ago, but I dealt with international clients so timing for work and stress differs. I then thought in junior high schools and the stress you face again is different...
Also what you described in your industry is similar to Malaysia's own creative agencies, so really not much difference eh.

Great to see people exploring the world. :-)
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Yup, I opt for overseas. Not keen to move to KL (me bring typical native Sabahan). haha

Not sure about Malaysia's Creative industry, so far I have no luck yet. Most of the jobs are given towards Big Studio side and never heard of representative agencies before like in Japan.
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Apr 9 2016, 10:05 AM)
Yup, I opt for overseas. Not keen to move to KL (me bring typical native Sabahan). haha

Not sure about Malaysia's Creative industry, so far I have no luck yet. Most of the jobs are given towards Big Studio side and never heard of representative agencies before like in Japan.
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ok. i help others ask question can? about the JAV and soapland industry in Japan
TSFlanegan
post Apr 9 2016, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Apr 9 2016, 03:45 PM)
ok. i help others ask question can? about the JAV and soapland industry in Japan
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Haha...

Not an expert about it but it's very common for single desperate guy to go to Soapland during their break time as far as I know..
I knew one guy who are very proud and happy to tell me that 'last night, I went to soapland to chill my spine.' A lil bit of culture shock to me.

I met a few not-so-famous JAV actress thou at a bar. I didn't know who they are until one of my angmoh friend told me the ladies are pronstar.
Bunch of normal looking, one of our gang so curious.. On the way back home, he research on the net while we waiting for our train and indeed a legit one. haha
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post Apr 10 2016, 06:22 PM

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Hi, I would like to ask,

How do you get to work in Japan in the first place? Is there any hope for people who don't speak Japanese? I think they wont hire you unless you already have permit to work there right?
TSFlanegan
post Apr 11 2016, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(RavagerX @ Apr 10 2016, 09:22 PM)
Hi, I would like to ask,

How do you get to work in Japan in the first place? Is there any hope for people who don't speak Japanese? I think they wont hire you unless you already have permit to work there right?
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My original purpose is to go there and study Japanese language for 6months - 1 year while trying to attend as many concert / live house, art exhibition and attending cultural event since I love their neo-modernism culture.
To be honest, I didn't really learn a lot because they taught everything formal and a lil' bit old school, the phrases I learnt and trying to converse with my Japanese friend at first felt awkward because I can't apply in real-life.
I got called "showa gaijin" because the way I speak like stuck in the 70-80's.

Yes, Japanese language is important since most of the people you will work are Japanese and their main communication solely Japanese language.
Unless you have close Japanese friend who are international-ninja (knows outside culture and fluent in English) but rare.

I met like 5-8 Malaysian who only speaks basic conversation and been living for almost 5-10 years.
Most of them working for Big Foreign Company or English Business Teacher for Business English School (ei-kaiwa)or English for Primary School Children, and of course Married to Japanese wife/husband.

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How I get my work in Japan goes like this..

One day, I felt bored after class after 1 month.

I asked my Japanese friend who are in the same industry is it possible for me to work in Japan maybe in long-term since I generally like Tokyo as 1 city and also the convenience of going everywhere without having cars.
They said is possible since I have the skills and unique experience. I only need to find the right person and everything will be fine.
So, they offered to help me, learn a few important phrases, word and structure sentences real-life and send a few agencies recommendation.

Straight 2 months after 1 month in Japan. Beside them helping me looking for vacancy or spread my name to a few agencies they know.
I apply a few agencies and commercial studio that I bookmark a few years ago when I'm in Australia. Send them an email and also post mail just to show my existence and my seriousness.

Out of 100+, I got like 20+ response to visit their office/studio just for meeting and see whether I'm fit to join with my specialty.
Majority of them have the photographer that have similar specialty with me, they're not interested to hire because afraid the job they receive can only support 1 photographer. But we still keep in touch until now.

End of Spring, before Summer season comes on my 3rd month in Japan.
While on the way to Omotesando to check out new sneakers shoe store and chocolate cafe at ura-harajuku.
I got a call back from 1 of the agencies. The President interested to meet me after one of the senior photographer hands him my portfolio. Since I'm on the way to Omotesando Station inside the train already, I ask them whether we can meet up now since I'm around the city center. They say ok..

After meet-up with the president of the agencies, with my chapalang Japanese but understandable.
He ask me a few simple question and random one.. What kind of girls I like.. Will I marry Japanese girl if I stay in Japan long-term.. haha
They hire me on the spot as part-timer since they want me to attend Japanese school for another month or 2.

2 months later, the president invited me to have a lunch with him. This time ask me some serious question.
What if they help me to apply working visa, but I'll pay for the application (which is only 4000yen that time, around RM120+).
The next day, went to immigration applied working visa and 2 weeks later got a call from immigration, brought my passport. Get a new visa and also new resident card.

3 months after living in Japan, Got a working visa and officially employed full-time. biggrin.gif

A month later, I got appointed to do a CM for Sandisk Japan and got send to New Zealand with my Colleague Photographer for 2 weeks.
Quite memorable one out of all the gigs I get while working in Japan.



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post Apr 11 2016, 08:48 AM

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great sharing and can make guide to japan....
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post Apr 11 2016, 11:01 AM

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Thanks for sharing! Actually I would like to consider to work in Japan but do you think there's a chance for us working in the hospitality industry?
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Haha. It seems nice can work abroad and explore different culture.
Btw,since you are back, do you have interest working in Cyberjaya as IT helpdesk(Japanese Speaking)? This position has quite nice remuneration benefits and you will work in a global IT company.
More information please check on this link: IT Helpdesk (Japanese Speaking)
Special Note: Seats are limited for this role and if you refer any friends to us, upon successful hiring, you will be given a 200-300 appreciation token for helping us to close! (Payment made upon candidate start work for 3 months)
Contact Person: Ms Ivy, 601133354262, ivy.cai@epscs.com / ivyyixuancai@gmail.com
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QUOTE(RavagerX @ Apr 11 2016, 02:01 PM)
Thanks for sharing! Actually I would like to consider to work in Japan but do you think there's a chance for us working in the hospitality industry?
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Hospitality Industry, Yes!

Olympics 2020 will be held in Tokyo. Don't go for 4-5 stars hotel.
You'll enjoy more either working with Guest House company or "Foreign Rental House Staff".
Usually they're looking for bilingual or trilingual staff.

Do search online, there's heaps of them.
Just try your luck and apply.
I believe you'll have more chance if you were in Japan and try to apply, of course need to plan out properly.
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QUOTE(IvyCai @ Apr 11 2016, 02:15 PM)
Haha. It seems nice can work abroad and explore different culture.
Btw,since you are back, do you have interest working in Cyberjaya as IT helpdesk(Japanese Speaking)? This position has quite nice remuneration benefits and you will work in a global IT company.
More information please check on this link: IT Helpdesk (Japanese Speaking)
Special Note: Seats are limited for this role and if you refer any friends to us, upon successful hiring, you will be given a 200-300 appreciation token for helping us to close! (Payment made upon candidate start work for 3 months)
Contact Person: Ms Ivy, 601133354262, ivy.cai@epscs.com / ivyyixuancai@gmail.com
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Hi Ivy,
Thank you for your offer. Unfortunately I'm not interested, different profession and I never take JLPT test before..
Learn all my useful Japanese by working and observing my Japanese colleague and friend.

I believe in KL, there's heaps of them who are interested with the vacancy.
I'm based in Kota Kinabalu.
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Apr 11 2016, 12:43 PM)
Hospitality Industry, Yes!

Olympics 2020 will be held in Tokyo. Don't go for 4-5 stars hotel.
You'll enjoy more either working with Guest House company or "Foreign Rental House Staff".
Usually they're looking for bilingual or trilingual staff.

Do search online, there's heaps of them.
Just try your luck and apply.
I believe you'll have more chance if you were in Japan and try to apply, of course need to plan out properly.
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Oh, but my previous exp is with 5 stars hotel. Why do you say that?

Do you mind PM me any source I can use to search? The ones I searched before all require me to already have the visa before going...
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QUOTE(RavagerX @ Apr 11 2016, 04:16 PM)
Oh, but my previous exp is with 5 stars hotel. Why do you say that?

Do you mind PM me any source I can use to search? The ones I searched before all require me to already have the visa before going...
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4-5 stars you need recommendation from the Hotel you used to work. Like Hyatt in KL to Tokyo, my friend ended up got send to Dubai instead.

Have a few friend who's studying hospitality and work in 4-5 stars resort or hotels in KK try to apply in Japan. So far, no one got the job.
I think maybe because of the standard qualities, Japan have tons of Michelin stars restaurant in Hotel's restaurant.

Not sure where you can search, try gaijinpot or hotel's main website on careers page.

As for guest house.
Search Sakura-House online.

Yes, they prefer those who have visa from previous job but I knew a few angmoh who come with 3 months holiday visa able to land a job although they don't have working visa.

So far, Malaysian have good stand from the Japanese. Maybe a few changes since lots of obnoxious incident from the China Tourist.
If you're Malaysian Chinese, just tell them you're Malaysian and don't say "Malaysian Chinese". haha

They think all Chinese in the world are the same now.
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nice thread. i always wanted to try working in Japan but the language barrier is the biggest obstacle. May i ask, typically for engineers, how is their salary payout and is really able to speak in japanese a critical must?\
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QUOTE(key3hky @ Apr 11 2016, 04:37 PM)
nice thread. i always wanted to try working in Japan but the language barrier is the biggest obstacle. May i ask, typically for engineers, how is their salary payout and is really able to speak in japanese a critical must?\
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Average Salary for most in Japan is around 200k Yen - 500k Yen.
Sometimes Fresh Graduate will earn from 150k Yen for a few months before get increment 2-4 months later.

Yes, it is Important to Speak Standard Japanese when it comes to engineers job since they have their own words and terms in Japanese word. Same goes to Science and Maths.
But IT sectors, there's big chance for non-Japanese speaker to work in Japan. Met a lot of Indian Nationals work as IT in Irish Pub (Western Bars, in Japanese Terms) and most of them don't really speak Japanese.
Of course, those single one want to pick-up Japanese girl.. They'll learn their heart out to get one. haha

There's a few Malaysian who study engineering in Japan ended up working in Japan, so far they never complain on financial side so far.
Some even married to their childhood sweetheart or Malaysian wife and move them here.
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QUOTE(wantrader82 @ Apr 11 2016, 11:48 AM)
great sharing and can make guide to japan....
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There's lots of guide you can find in Japan for free.

My guide/life in Japan are more like the local. Most place I visit usually where local hang out which is cheap and reasonable.
Tourist and foreign recommended place the price usually double or triple.
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Thanks...would you still have lobang to pull some strings on getting job there? I'm working as engineer in semi con industry...can't speak japanese.. Only understood few words.. But those words as usually used in body language movie nia
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I think one key point some of you guys are missing is that TS was physically in Japan already as a resident (student) when he networked his way into a job there.

I'd imagine it would be a lot more difficult to find one from offshore especially if you don't speak Japanese. RegentCid
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great post TS! tried applying for engineering role end of last year, didnt make it through the 2nd round =( learning jap now tho. maybe i'll try again this year..

given the chance, you'd go back work again rite?
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nice thread, park here as future reference
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Interesting topic,parking here
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What about freedom? Over here if somebody complain about pm or his party sure to get in deep trouble, can get away what about Japan?
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QUOTE(charsiewking @ Apr 12 2016, 09:27 AM)
What about freedom?  Over here if somebody complain about pm or his party sure to get in deep trouble, can get away what about Japan?
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interesting thread, i been assigned to jap for awhile by my company for some project..
basically people here doesn't care much as long as you dont go and harass others ..
i have seen ppl having political talks and criticized abe openly infrnt of shinjuku station laugh.gif
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QUOTE(charsiewking @ Apr 12 2016, 12:27 PM)
What about freedom?  Over here if somebody complain about pm or his party sure to get in deep trouble, can get away what about Japan?
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QUOTE(Innovation @ Apr 12 2016, 03:44 PM)
interesting thread, i been assigned to jap for awhile by my company for some project..
basically people here doesn't care much as long as you dont go and harass others ..
i have seen ppl having political talks and criticized abe openly infrnt of shinjuku station  laugh.gif
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Yup, you have the freedom to voice out... Public or Online.
How this happens, all started from the 3/11 incident. The Tsunami, Earthquake and Nuclear Reactor Explosion at West Tohoku.

The Japanese, especially young one (millenials) started to voice out more on their opinion and lost trust on their politician.
Since most politician in Japan are comes from family generation, age between 50-70 and doesn't think much about the situation.

Places like Shibuya and Shinjuku always have big demo once in a while or in-front of parliament diet at Kokkaigijidomae.
Got invited to join my bunch of my friend, especially those hip-hop lifestyle friend who believe in changes and new policy for the future of Japan.
They sick and tired of ponzi tax for elderly retirement fund and also negative interest on their bank account especially those who earn a lot.

Of course once in a while if they bump into right wings (those who still believe empire era with black vans and huge microphone and speaker on top of the car wandering around tokyo) they'll exchange abusing words each other or didn't layan them. If you can read Japanese and check some of the right wing troller comments on youtube or blog where normal Japanese voice out. It is actually worst than troll or different extreme supporter like what we read in Malaysia. Some even took to another level and create a scandal just to shut them off. Which causing them losing jobs, hard to find a jobs etc. Yes, worst than the kurang ajar's if you know what I mean.

Yeah, when you got the freedom sometimes you need to fight with those extreme right wing people too.
Sometimes freedom will exploit your personal life if you goes all the way.
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QUOTE(key3hky @ Apr 12 2016, 01:27 AM)
Thanks...would you still have lobang to pull some strings on getting job there? I'm working as engineer in semi con industry...can't speak japanese.. Only understood few words.. But those words as usually used in body language movie nia
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QUOTE(rexona @ Apr 12 2016, 10:59 AM)
I think one key point some of you guys are missing is that TS was physically in Japan already as a resident (student) when he networked his way into a job there.

I'd imagine it would be a lot more difficult to find one from offshore especially if you don't speak Japanese. RegentCid
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Yup, Networking (a.k.a Lubang) is important and easier to get connection. Japanese language is a must, don't need to be super fluent but conversational level where both party understood.

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Bingo!
Rexona get it right.

If you want to work in a foreign land. Not sure what's your plan, maybe for experience or for long-term migration.
There's no luxury or easy path to get a job in foreign-land unless you work for a company who can send you to overseas especially in IT and Banking industry, sometimes tourism.

This is what I learn when I was in Australia, meeting up with my Asian Aussie friend's parents who are basically f.o.b in the 60's. But settled and become Australian and denounce their birth country citizenship.
Took all what they have and move to Australia, try to get a job as fast as you can to get the legal document and work your arse off and forget all the luxury and priviledge you have back home.

At the end of the day, if everything all right with no problem.
Life become content and you live the dream you want.
Like the Aunty and Uncle I met in Australia, of course there's a few regret this and that but everyone always regret in everything mistake they did.

So let's say if I can turn back time or will I do it again if everything settled in Sabah.
For sure I'll do it again from point A. Since I already know the consequences and the struggle for a few months or years at the end of the day you'll get it somehow.
And also I love the lifestyle and super conveniences in Japan.

Most of my friend in Sabah says I'm crazy but at least I showed them everything is possible if there's no opportunity in your own motherland, if you know what I mean.

But if you're married, I encourage don't do that.
If you're single and have nothing to lose (throw aside the ego and pride).. If you want to experience hows life outside, maybe refresh your life with new friends and environment. Go for it.

A little bit of out of topic but just a tiny wee-bit encouragement for those who ever think of getting out of the comfort zone.

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Yup, you have the freedom to voice out... Public or Online.
Yeah, when you got the freedom sometimes you need to fight with those extreme right wing people too.
Sometimes freedom will exploit your personal life if you goes all the way.
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But in Japan I heard all parties get freedom to campaign unlike here? So what do people usually do on saturday and sunday? is it 5 working days a week?
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QUOTE(charsiewking @ Apr 12 2016, 06:32 PM)
But in Japan I heard all parties get freedom to campaign unlike here?  So what do people usually do on saturday and sunday?  is it 5 working days a week?
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Yes, every 丁目cho-me (area) within every district (市) in Wards/Town (区/府) have a special board where the politician can post their campaign propaganda.
Something like this :
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5 working days a week most of the time, but my case in creative production weekend kadang2 ada but will replace the break date on weekdays.

Saturday and Sunday is like any normal weekend in Japan.
Going to cafes, wandering around the cities, going to see their favourite artist/musician open live space,otaku goes to akihabara milk em out, lepak2 at their favourite park, visit any awesome modern township, admire their favourite train passing-by, dating, going to music store and listening good tune, heading to bookstore looking for inspiration, searching for the best ramen or udon or tsukemen, jogging around the riverside etc.

It's more fun in Tokyo because there's more choice and adventure you can do for me personally.

In KK, I tend to get stress out if I want to go out and meet friend or meeting to land a contract because I have to plan my time, stuck in jam, spend another 10mins-30mins looking for parking, have to pay parking, have to focus driving.. Once reaching the destination almost lost my energy already. haha (reserve culture shock problem)

In Tokyo, it's more like commuter/walking society. Everywhere is walkable, once in a while you'll get 'human traffic jam' then I'll opt for taking public bus or taxi if the destination is only 12-15mins.
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Thanks for sharing your experience!

Can you share a little bit on house rentals? I heard that it costs an arm and a leg.. lol..
It's quite difficult isn't it as in financially when relocating to Japan?
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QUOTE(godzlarz @ Apr 15 2016, 08:27 PM)
Thanks for sharing your experience!

Can you share a little bit on house rentals? I heard that it costs an arm and a leg.. lol..
It's quite difficult isn't it as in financially when relocating to Japan?
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Rental will be around 40k-80k yen a month depends on location, distance to train station and also the age of the building. Oh ya, plus the size.
Elite or Prime area will be around 70k-200k yen a month.

Average of normal rental will be cost around 60k yen a month.. If you're lucky enough, 40k yen a month is like jackpot for everyone here.
I manage to get 45k yen a month, 12 mins walk to Station or 5 mins bicycle ride to Station. Neighbourhood located at the riverside between East Tokyo and West Chiba.
Perfect spot for me to have evening breeze walk once in a while...

Depends on your personal financial. Start struggling in the beginning and enjoy the progress like any other Japanese who comes from different prefecture. (Trust me, they are broke as f*ck than any foreigner who move to Japan)
Or save as many saving as you can, start plurge in the beginning and slowly control your budget financially.

I booked a share house room a month in-advanced once I decide to move to Tokyo. Sign a non-duration contract deal and pay 15k yen deposit only and 1 month rental of 50k yen a month which is include electric, water, gas and internet bills. Opposite the Share House is Aeon Supermarket, basically every evening I'll drop by there to buy fresh food and vege and cook decent meal (cost around 300-400yen) for myself every night. Metro Station just 8 mins walk, convenient as f*ck and felt like heaven for the first time.

But I have that dream/ideal place, where I always watch Japanese movie (where those lonely single guy/lady own a cool small studio house or apartment a little bit further down from the station.)
Everyweek for 2 months, I'll visit a real estate agent and tell them I'm looking for my ideal studio house/apartment and hopefully they can find 1 for me with the budget I mentioned.

On 2nd month, Those famous or well-known real estate agent cannot find the criteria I want and I took another alternative way which is go to district local estate agent (those only accept japanese customers). Give it a try with my almost perfect Japanese conversation and ask them I'm looking for a studio house/apartment, in resident housing area and 15-20mins away from any public train.
They have a few on their list, list down to 5 apartment to see. Drove me around the area and have a look at the house or apartment.

Found the one I like, which is a House Studio (attach beside another apartment but separately), 45k yen a month, 12mins walk or 5 mins cycle to Metro Station or another 20mins walk or 9 mins cycle to different Train company station, 2 blocks away from Edo River and there's a jogging track where you can jog the other opposite way to Arakawa River. Decide to go for that Studio House.

At first the landlord reject my application because they a little bit hesitate when it comes to foreigner. And then I was lucky, very lucky to meet up the landlord at the office where she pick-up some document from the estate agency. The guy who help me apply the application point at me and say I'm the guy who applied her Studio House to rent and her first impression thought I'm Japanese instead of Foreigner (look and physically). Had a small chit-chat with the landlord and the landlord decide to cancel the reject application and let me rent her Studio House to me. smile.gif

I had my first own rent studio house in Japan and cheap one 45k yen a month.
The first month I need to pay is :
First month rental : 45k yen
Deposit (You'll get back 50%-75% once you move out): 30k yen
New Key Installation : 8k yen
Real Estate fees : 15k yen.
No Key Money Fees and Landlord Fees, luck again on my side.

Total is : 98000k yen to get the dream house I want. (back in 2012, around RM3.6k)

Basic Monthly bills on my side for own place is :
4500yen for Fiber Optics Internet (Yahoo! Hikari)
500 yen - 2000 yen for Electricity.

Every 2 months :
1200yen for Gas
800yen for Water

Total Rent include bills is : 51500yen a month. Equivalent to RM515 or conversion RM1800+

Separate non-house bills is my Softbank + Iphone Bills which cost 6k yen a month. (Unlimited LTE + Calls, most Japanese use phone mail to contact with each other. Rarely SMS)

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And again, do not convert the yen to Ringgit because you earn your salary in Yen.
The right way to see the living expenses is by seeing the equivalent.

RM1 = 100yen.

While in Malaysia you cannot buy lots of stuff for RM1.
But 100yen you can get Onigiri or Bun in a local bakery shop.

I challenge myself to Survive with only 500yen a day for a month (Breakfast & Lunch).
Surprisingly, I can get lots of stuff for 500yen in a day in Tokyo.
Like 90yen of Melon Bun with 100yen Lemon CC for Breakfast. 300yen Bento for Lunch.

But in Kota Kinabalu RM5, small packet of M&M already cost RM3 or 1 Chicken Pao already cost RM4 for breakfast.
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Very interesting read! It looks like you did get a pretty good deal for the rental! biggrin.gif

Getting hired in Japan is also another problem right?
From what I heard, you need at least a Degree or with professional working experience of 10 years..
I'm not really sure about this..

Thanks again on your long detailed explanation, very informative! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(godzlarz @ Apr 16 2016, 12:59 AM)
Very interesting read! It looks like you did get a pretty good deal for the rental!  biggrin.gif

Getting hired in Japan is also another problem right?
From what I heard, you need at least a Degree or with professional working experience of 10 years..
I'm not really sure about this..

Thanks again on your long detailed explanation, very informative!  rclxms.gif
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At least a Degree, according to Immigration Work Force Law.
Mine is very straight, a Degree Holder and a company willing to provide mandatory document to apply visa. I do all the paper work myself without using Immigration Lawyer, easier but am try to avoid to safe some cash for other stuff.

But I knew a few who don't have Degree or Education Cert but still manage to work legally in Japan.
There's a blackhole within the system for sure, I don't know how they get but maybe working experience or legal help from Lawyer.
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Interesting Thread here. Been working in Tokyo for a few years and basically there are a lot of Malaysian here as well. Most can actually speak good Japanese as they graduated from a Japanese universities. I have a few non Malaysian friends who cannot speak Japanese working here as well. But they were send here initially from their home countries.

Comparing to Malaysia, pay here is good, but the taxes are really high. You need to pay two taxes - municipal and government. Besides that you need to pay to the pension scheme that you most probably wont get back unless you work 25years. Most you can get back is two months worth of salary. On the plus side, since you pay taxes you are treated like a normal Japanese. If you plan to give birth in Japan you get lots of benefits compare to Malaysia.

As for housing, be prepare to live in a small house. If you are single I guess its fine, but with family, you need to get use to it. As mention by @flanegan, you need to pay deposit and Key money as well. However now quite a number of places do not need to pay these. During my negotiation, I negotiated a longer period than the normal 3 years, to get the rent down and no key money. My agent is very good and can speak perfect English. He help me with all the negotiation with the landlord. For two months, every weekend, he drove me around Tokyo to look at apartments/houses until I make a decision. It was really interesting as you get to see lots of Japanese houses design.

Finally you need to be prepare for earthquake. It happens often in Tokyo that it just dont get reported as its not big - average magnitude of 3. But its still unnerving when you feel the building shake.

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Apr 18 2016, 11:37 AM)
Interesting Thread here. Been working in Tokyo for a few years and basically there are a lot of Malaysian here as well. Most can actually speak good Japanese as they graduated from a Japanese universities. I have a few non Malaysian friends who cannot speak Japanese working here as well. But they were send here initially from their home countries.

Comparing to Malaysia, pay here is good, but the taxes are really high. You need to pay two taxes - municipal and government. Besides that you need to pay to the pension scheme that you most probably wont get back unless you work 25years. Most you can get back is two months worth of salary. On the plus side, since you pay taxes you are treated like a normal Japanese. If you plan to give birth in Japan you get lots of benefits compare to Malaysia.

As for housing, be prepare to live in a small house. If you are single I guess its fine, but with family, you need to get use to it. As mention by @flanegan, you need to pay deposit and Key money as well. However now quite a number of places do not need to pay these. During my negotiation, I negotiated a longer period than the normal 3 years, to get the rent down and no key money. My agent is very good and can speak perfect English. He help me with all the negotiation with the landlord. For two months, every weekend, he drove me around Tokyo to look at apartments/houses until I make a decision. It was really interesting as you get to see lots of Japanese houses design.

Finally you need to be prepare for earthquake. It happens often in Tokyo that it just dont get reported as its not big - average magnitude of 3. But its still unnerving when you feel the building shake.
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sound nice any good recommended vacancy
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QUOTE(james 2 @ Apr 18 2016, 01:11 PM)
sound nice any good recommended vacancy
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You can try Rakuten. I know they hired a lot of non Japanese speaking people in their IT department. Google Rakuten jobs and should lead you to their homepage.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Apr 18 2016, 01:07 PM)
You can try Rakuten. I know they hired a lot of non Japanese speaking people in their IT department. Google Rakuten jobs and should lead you to their homepage.
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owh sad i do not have IT qualification
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Great thread, thanks for sharing!
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QUOTE(james 2 @ Apr 18 2016, 02:23 PM)
owh sad i do not have IT qualification
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There are also non IT jobs out there which you just need to find. Of course you will have advantage if you know Japanese. I know a few non Japanese who are doing audit, sales and engineering who are not expat. However you must have a niche skills that makes them want to hire you.
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I see thanks for advise
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heard that even a skilled programmer's salary is relatively low compared to the cost of living there..

do you have anything to talk about programming in japan ?

QUOTE(Flanegan @ Apr 9 2016, 06:12 AM)
As far as I know, there's only 5000 registered Malaysian in Japan.
Majority of them living in Tokyo and Osaka.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Apr 18 2016, 02:37 PM)
Finally you need to be prepare for earthquake. It happens often in Tokyo that it just dont get reported as its not big - average magnitude of 3. But its still unnerving when you feel the building shake.
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Yup, either it will shake vertically or horizontally.. I think both combine are the most scariest one.
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QUOTE(Lozy @ Apr 18 2016, 08:53 PM)
heard that even a skilled programmer's salary is relatively low compared to the cost of living there..

do you have anything to talk about programming in japan ?
5001 soon
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If work in office or corporate style no matter how skillfull you are (unless someone hires you for your skill, different stories.)
You have to start from average salary, then it will slowly increase once you reach or promote to certain position.

I know it sucks, but thats how Japan's salaryman/office lady office culture work.

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Most of Talented or Skillful Japanese friend I know either become Freelance, because they earn more from working in office.
Took a risk, go to Europe, US or Australia working what they good at (Make Up, Painting and Fashion especially)
or Open their own company with a few mates who have the same skills but different specialty.
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QUOTE(Lozy @ Apr 18 2016, 06:53 PM)
heard that even a skilled programmer's salary is relatively low compared to the cost of living there..

do you have anything to talk about programming in japan ?
5001 soon
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I used to be a programmer long time ago but left that industry long time ago. I know a few people who are doing programming for games company but I did not ask further. Also there is a Malaysian here who actually have his own company doing freelance and promoting python.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Apr 19 2016, 10:01 AM)
I used to be a programmer long time ago but left that industry long time ago. I know a few people who are doing programming for games company but I did not ask further. Also there is a Malaysian here who actually have his own company  doing freelance and promoting python.
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Where are you senpai
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Where are you senpai
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I am in Tokyo
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Apr 19 2016, 01:01 PM)
I used to be a programmer long time ago but left that industry long time ago. I know a few people who are doing programming for games company but I did not ask further. Also there is a Malaysian here who actually have his own company  doing freelance and promoting python.
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I think I know who is that guy.. haha
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Sorry senpai, i mean that senpai with his own company xD
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I think I know who is that guy.. haha
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hahaha.......he is a very famous guy in the malaysian community.
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Getting a job there is easier if you graduated from Japanese university right? Any idea how to get into Japanese universities? I already have a diploma though.
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QUOTE(qwertyuioped @ Apr 19 2016, 10:31 PM)
Getting a job there is easier if you graduated from Japanese university right? Any idea how to get into Japanese universities? I already have a diploma though.
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Am a Aussie Uni Graduate, I apply myself thru a partner agent where I'm from, then I took risk to find a job in Japan while study casual japanese language course after graduate in Australia.

I reckon Japan is the same, but you have to take full-time 1 and half years Japanese class in-order to enter Japanese Uni Exam Entrance, from what I heard from a friend who chose Japanese Uni as their education choice.
I wish someone with Japanese Education can answer your q's.
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QUOTE(qwertyuioped @ Apr 19 2016, 08:31 PM)
Getting a job there is easier if you graduated from Japanese university right? Any idea how to get into Japanese universities? I already have a diploma though.
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Just apply.......there are lots of information in the web and I am sure you can find it. There are a few universities in Japan that offer classes in English but subjects are limited. If not you will need to take at least one year full time Japanese class before you can really start your degree as all classes will be in Japanese. You need to read the website to know what is the qualification needed. I did my post graduate in Japan but since its quite specialized its all in English.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Apr 20 2016, 10:10 AM)
Just apply.......there are lots of information in the web and I am sure you can find it. There are a few universities in Japan that offer classes in English but subjects are limited. If not you will need to take at least one year full time Japanese class before you can really start your degree as all classes will be in Japanese. You need to read the website to know what is the qualification needed.  I did my post graduate in Japan but since its quite specialized its all in English.
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Are you working in japan now? It seems that taking degree in japan gonna take atleast 5 years including 1 year japanese class. I think better take degrer here and then cont masters in japan. But would it be easier to get job that way?
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QUOTE(qwertyuioped @ Apr 20 2016, 11:41 AM)
Are you working in japan now? It seems that taking degree in japan gonna take atleast 5 years including 1 year japanese class. I think better take degrer here and then cont masters in japan. But would it be easier to get job that way?
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Yup I have been working here for a few years even though my Japanese is not at the business level yet. Well the question is do you still want to spend 2-3 years of your time and money to do your masters? really depends what you want.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Apr 20 2016, 12:22 PM)
Yup I have been working here for a few years even though my Japanese is not at the business level yet. Well the question is do you still want to spend 2-3 years of your time and money to do your masters? really depends what you want.
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It would be nice if we can migrate to Japan. Malaysia is not that good also except the food. I'm already 22, if i go japan now and take degree I'll probably graduate like 27-28? Thats too old i think. Also I heard theres age discrimination when it comes to finding jobs, is that true? Mind sharing your experience how you land a job there?
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QUOTE(qwertyuioped @ Apr 20 2016, 12:34 PM)
It would be nice if we can migrate to Japan. Malaysia is not that good also except the food. I'm already 22, if i go japan now and take degree I'll probably graduate like 27-28? Thats too old i think. Also I heard theres age discrimination when it comes to finding jobs, is that true? Mind sharing your experience how you land a job there?
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Migrate to Japan? For work maybe yes, but for retirement, dont think so as it will be too expensive. But everyone has his/her preference. You might like it here. There is still some age discrimination but its not that bad. Now the trend is changing. Last time people will work for one company for life. Not anymore. The people I hire so far, non has been a graduate and the oldest I hired was 48, though at manager level. And alot of companies are also hiring mid career. So as long as you have the skills, then its fine.

My case is simple. My company ask me do you want to work in Japan....so here I am. So this is another option that you can try. smile.gifc
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QUOTE(qwertyuioped @ Apr 20 2016, 02:34 PM)
It would be nice if we can migrate to Japan. Malaysia is not that good also except the food. I'm already 22, if i go japan now and take degree I'll probably graduate like 27-28? Thats too old i think. Also I heard theres age discrimination when it comes to finding jobs, is that true? Mind sharing your experience how you land a job there?
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Apr 20 2016, 03:55 PM)
Migrate to Japan? For work maybe yes, but for retirement, dont think so as it will be too expensive. But everyone has his/her preference. You might like it here. There is still some age discrimination but its not that bad. Now the trend is changing. Last time people will work for one company for life. Not anymore. The people I hire so far, non has been a graduate and the oldest I hired was 48, though at manager level. And alot of companies are also hiring mid career. So as long as you have the skills, then its fine.

My case is simple. My company ask me do you want to work in Japan....so here I am. So this is another option that you can try. smile.gifc
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Like what sacwon mentioned,
Never ever retire in Japan, unless you married to a local. Then let's call Japan is your home. But not retirement after work from different country, confirm your savings drain faster because of the unwritten rules tax.
Thank god the artist agencies I used to work help me to settle all the tax for me.

Migrate to Big Cities like Tokyo or Osaka, Actually overall whole Japan while working with Corporate Company as Salaryman is not a good choice if you know hows the tax and retirement ponzi scheme works here.
Unless you know hows the market in Japan where you believe can earn decent money until you have enough savings without worrying paying tax for the elderly. Then different story.

If you have the cliche skills that available in Japan. For example my case taking Celebrity/Talent Photograph or Photograph for certain brand related with People product, then you have the chance to work under agencies representative, very competitive but you'll get certain job because the market here is over-saturated.
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Apr 20 2016, 02:55 PM)
Like what sacwon mentioned,
Never ever retire in Japan, unless you married to a local. Then let's call Japan is your home. But not retirement after work from different country, confirm your savings drain faster because of the unwritten rules tax.
Thank god the artist agencies I used to work help me to settle all the tax for me.

Migrate to Big Cities like Tokyo or Osaka, Actually overall whole Japan while working with Corporate Company as Salaryman is not a good choice if you know hows the tax and retirement ponzi scheme works here.
Unless you know hows the market in Japan where you believe can earn decent money until you have enough savings without worrying paying tax for the elderly. Then different story.

If you have the cliche skills that available in Japan. For example my case taking Celebrity/Talent Photograph or Photograph for certain brand related with People product, then you have the chance to work under agencies representative, very competitive but you'll get certain job because the market here is over-saturated.
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I guess the grass is not much greener on the other side. hmm.gif
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I guess the grass is not much greener on the other side. hmm.gif
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It's greener if you don't think of earning a million. or money at all.
Malaysia is still a heaven place for bankers, businessman because they know they can earn money in long-term.
Malaysia is still consider cheap when it comes to taxes, opening business or even earn a small small decent money as pocket money.

Japan, on the other side.. Not a place for person to work easily, earn easily and retire easily.
You need to work seriously, earn the money you want and get respect your value or work and become advisor or have small businesses once you reach age where young generation already took over the industry (70 y/o+)

You can get a lot's of stuff here..
The Food are good (I prefer food in Tokyo than in KK), Their public transport are the best (don't need to worry of owning a car), To own a car is cheaper (RM100k+ for BMW) or RM30k for normal Suzuki/Toyota-kei car, Very convenient (Groceries, Supermarket are everywhere, their Vending Machine are usable not for decoration), Entertainment (Music, Movie, Theatre, Concert) happens everyday anywhere.

I have lots of friends in KK (where I'm from) kept on asking me to introduce a job to them in Japan like they thought how's the system work in Malaysia.
I told them, once they move and work there.. They'll forget all their interests on Japan (especially the Otaku) because you realize you have to pay to watch anime and also there's no subtitle when it release the manga or anime on TV, haha. You'll be busy focus on the job, tired every night and forget to catch up your favourite show.

I always tell them a joke.. If you want to live in Japan and still enjoy your Anime stuff. Better be Danny Choo or anyone who are now trying to catch their dream job in Japan.
Some become Game Developer (Final Fantasy), Some become Manga Writer (got scouted and hire to do one) or become a Talent (Appear on TV Show and recently got chosen to be ambassador for a beauty product).

It's about, you want to do it or not with you own will.
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Apr 20 2016, 03:20 PM)
It's greener if you don't think of earning a million. or money at all.
Malaysia is still a heaven place for bankers, businessman because they know they can earn money in long-term.
Malaysia is still consider cheap when it comes to taxes, opening business or even earn a small small decent money as pocket money.

Japan, on the other side.. Not a place for person to work easily, earn easily and retire easily.
You need to work seriously, earn the money you want and get respect your value or work and become advisor or have small businesses once you reach age where young generation already took over the industry (70 y/o+)

You can get a lot's of stuff here..
The Food are good (I prefer food in Tokyo than in KK), Their public transport are the best (don't need to worry of owning a car), To own a car is cheaper (RM100k+ for BMW) or RM30k for normal Suzuki/Toyota-kei car, Very convenient (Groceries, Supermarket are everywhere, their Vending Machine are usable not for decoration), Entertainment (Music, Movie, Theatre, Concert) happens everyday anywhere.

I have lots of friends in KK (where I'm from) kept on asking me to introduce a job to them in Japan like they thought how's the system work in Malaysia.
I told them, once they move and work there.. They'll forget all their interests on Japan (especially the Otaku) because you realize you have to pay to watch anime and also there's no subtitle when it release the manga or anime on TV, haha. You'll be busy focus on the job, tired every night and forget to catch up your favourite show.

I always tell them a joke.. If you want to live in Japan and still enjoy your Anime stuff. Better be Danny Choo or anyone who are now trying to catch their dream job in Japan.
Some become Game Developer (Final Fantasy), Some become Manga Writer (got scouted and hire to do one) or become a Talent (Appear on TV Show and recently got chosen to be ambassador for a beauty product).

It's about, you want to do it or not with you own will.
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For me working here is about money and experience. I prefer working life back home. People are much more open and "nicer' to work with. And as you mention working as a salaryman, is not fun at all. You cannot really make real friends in the company. Its all about business.

Thought of going back, but difficult to find a job that pays what I am getting now and also the nature of my job is too specialized and not many open position in Malaysia

I always tell my friends, coming to Japan as a tourist is fine......but to stay back and work, you need to think twice!
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Apr 20 2016, 06:45 PM)
For me working here is about money and experience.  I prefer working life back home. People are much more open and "nicer' to work with.  And as you mention working as a salaryman, is not fun at all. You cannot really make real friends in the company. Its all about business.

Thought of going back, but difficult to find a job that pays what I am getting now and also the nature of my job is too specialized and not many open position in Malaysia

I always tell my friends, coming to Japan as a tourist is fine......but to stay back and work, you need to think twice!
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Yup, but am in different industry thou.
I'm quite enjoy working as Photographer in Japan, like you mentioned.. The pays is darn good and nature job doesn't exist in Malaysia.
Kinda miss the busy life in Japan.

Now back in KK, I have no idea what to do.. Job are in-consistent. hehe

I know it's hard to make friend especially in office environment, but gaman-kudasai.
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I wanted to go work in japan, still working on my japanese. am in IT line but my japanese is still chapalang level despite having JLPT N3 (going N2 this year).

Is there any job portal besides rakuten ? I believe there are headhunting agencies as well in Japan?
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For me working here is about money and experience.  I prefer working life back home. People are much more open and "nicer' to work with.  And as you mention working as a salaryman, is not fun at all. You cannot really make real friends in the company. Its all about business.

Thought of going back, but difficult to find a job that pays what I am getting now and also the nature of my job is too specialized and not many open position in Malaysia

I always tell my friends, coming to Japan as a tourist is fine......but to stay back and work, you need to think twice!
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Sacwoc, what kind of position you work on? Your "too specialized" makes me have quite interest on the position.
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Sacwoc, what kind of position you work on? Your "too specialized" makes me have quite interest on the position.
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I actually change "jobs" alot in the same company. I worked in IT, PMO for M&A, Communications and now supply chain in Japan. In a nutshell, need to ensure that products we export/import have the necessary documents for customs, reach customer on time - not too late or early, production runs smoothly, etc.
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This thread is interesting as I used to work in a Japanese Restaurant. Japanese head chef was really strict.

So having been to Japan, how is the actual Japanese food compared to Malaysia's Japanese food?

Is it true that Tokyo don't have some special food like takoyaki?
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Apr 20 2016, 03:45 PM)
For me working here is about money and experience.  I prefer working life back home. People are much more open and "nicer' to work with.  And as you mention working as a salaryman, is not fun at all. You cannot really make real friends in the company. Its all about business.

Thought of going back, but difficult to find a job that pays what I am getting now and also the nature of my job is too specialized and not many open position in Malaysia

I always tell my friends, coming to Japan as a tourist is fine......but to stay back and work, you need to think twice!
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so much truth on this....i been working in tokyo for about 5 months and i can't wait to go back to Malaysia once my project end. The salaryman life is no joke here... dry.gif dry.gif

office culture is abit weird as well. Maybe we can hangout and have fun in izakaya after work but the next day in the office, they behave like a stranger n "cold" towards each other.

YES!! go jap as a tourist is fine, but if for working....for me is abit puke.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Apr 22 2016, 12:40 PM)
This thread is interesting as I used to work in a Japanese Restaurant. Japanese head chef was really strict.

So having been to Japan, how is the actual Japanese food compared to Malaysia's Japanese food?

Is it true that Tokyo don't have some special food like takoyaki?
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Chef here are really strict in how they prepare their food. Hence there are quite a lot of Michelin Restaurants in Tokyo. But nowadays a lot of restaurants are cutting corners and there are some food scandals as well.

Of course you cannot compare between Japan and Malaysia. Its about business and food are made to suit the taste of the customers. I have eaten a RM40 wan tan mee in tokyo that cannot compare with a RM5 that I can get in KL! The ingredients alone are already different, sure there will be a lot of difference.

You can practically find takoyaki anywhere in Tokyo. Someone fed you the wrong information. Takoyaki is not really "special food"
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For food, go for Tabelog (食べログ). They have tons of recommendation.
I have my own fav place around Tokyo, Osaka, Fukuoka, Sapporo area if I drop by the city. Am a big eater of Ramen and food in a bowl (ドン) especially Matsuya's ビビンどん.

Maybe I come from a very mixture family, so I don't really have particular favourite malaysian food in me. Maybe Char Kuey Teow only.. haha
Tokyo's Indian Community version of Roti Canai is one hella flavourful food, especially Nepalist food.

Takoyaki is not a special food, you can get anywhere every 2-3 blocks in the town area.

Everything is strict in Japan (厳しい) and if you look at their work. It's all about Details and Quality (細かい) of the product that are USABLE. If it's nice but meaningful, they will trash out the idea and create another one immediately. I learn a lot from that during production.

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hi TS, let's say if i want to migrate to Japan without any work. I earn my income from my investments in Malaysia and stock market in SG/MY. Can i get a non-employment visa to stay in Japan as a resident?
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hi TS, let's say if i want to migrate to Japan without any work. I earn my income from my investments in Malaysia and stock market in SG/MY. Can i get a non-employment visa to stay in Japan as a resident?
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Nope, either you need to get a business visa with 5 million yen capital.
or You can get Self-Employed visa with at least a proof earnings of at least 200,000yen a month to survive in Japan, but this one only applies to those who previously work in Japan with 'Working Visa'.

Since Malaysian passport don't need to apply for Visa anymore.. You can just come to Japan and stay for 3 months tourist visa.

Japan Immigration Lawyer might help you to with this issues.
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Apr 23 2016, 03:18 PM)
Nope, either you need to get a business visa with 5 million yen capital.
or You can get Self-Employed visa with at least a proof earnings of at least 200,000yen a month to survive in Japan, but this one only applies to those who previously work in Japan with 'Working Visa'.

Since Malaysian passport don't need to apply for Visa anymore.. You can just come to Japan and stay for 3 months tourist visa.

Japan Immigration Lawyer might help you to with this issues.
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hmm 5 mil yen capital that is very low. but dont think will go for this route as i dont plan to do business there.
how about buying a house there?
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Awesome thread! Looks like Japan is a pretty sweet place to be. Maybe I'll see if I can get a job there once I'm done with my stint here in China tongue.gif
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Parking for strong interest, while question wise... Well I wonder do they have legal casino there? Working in one should be interesting.
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Parking for strong interest, while question wise... Well I wonder do they have legal casino there? Working in one should be interesting.
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Hmmmm... Casino, I don't think so.
But there's a lot of Pachinko every 2-3 blocks around Japan.

It's like a legal gambling area with Metal Ball Slots.
I knew a guy, very dodgy one able to make a living by playing Pachinko everyday.
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Awesome thread! Looks like Japan is a pretty sweet place to be. Maybe I'll see if I can get a job there once I'm done with my stint here in China tongue.gif
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As long company willing to help you with Working Visa, you can work and live here.
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Last week I checked with a Japanese agent and telling him that I'm looking for a condominium (with full facility like swimming pool, tennis court, etc) in Osaka City. I was given few options but I'm wondering how come their condominium is just like normal apartment (probably with nice lobby). What should I tell the Japanese agent if I want to look for "condominium with facilities"? or there isn't such a thing in Japan at the first place?
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QUOTE(z21j @ Apr 25 2016, 03:34 AM)
Last week I checked with a Japanese agent and telling him that I'm looking for a condominium (with full facility like swimming pool, tennis court, etc) in Osaka City. I was given few options but I'm wondering how come their condominium is just like normal apartment (probably with nice lobby). What should I tell the Japanese agent if I want to look for "condominium with facilities"? or there isn't such a thing in Japan at the first place?
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Not much, but to be honest No Such Thing since there's lots of Facilities all around the Town area of Wards itself and it's walking distance.
So mostly Apartment/Mansion are only have house.

But here are the terms in Japan, the usage for accommodation :

Apartment - アパート (A Paa To.), is a typical Apartment or House. Mostly made by wood. Very common all around Japan.
Mansion - マンション (Mahn Sh-on), is like Malaysian's Condominium. It's a cement building, modern and mostly new tall building. Some of them have Facilities like Gym and Swimming Pool.
Serviced Apartment - サービス・アパート (SaBisu aPaTo), majority of this Apartment/Manshon taking care by certain big real estate company have facilities like Swimming Pool or Attendance in Lobby. Mostly those 10% of Japanese Population who can afford (or no other place or land to stay, celebrities etc..) will stay.

Either you have to find an Apartment/Mansion where there's a nearby Municipal Wards Sports Center where you can go to Gym and Swimming (It's cheap! 200yen, depends location thou).
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Flanegan Do you think you could copy the format or something like the working in singapore thread and replicate it for the working in japan thread?
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Parking for strong interest, while question wise... Well I wonder do they have legal casino there? Working in one should be interesting.
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Gambling is illegal in Japan. There is a lot of pachinko around but technically they are not gambling. If you have seen the news a few of their badminton players was ban from playing because they visited some illegal casino. They was a plan previously to actually setup a casino but I think that discussion have stalled.
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QUOTE(z21j @ Apr 25 2016, 01:34 AM)
Last week I checked with a Japanese agent and telling him that I'm looking for a condominium (with full facility like swimming pool, tennis court, etc) in Osaka City. I was given few options but I'm wondering how come their condominium is just like normal apartment (probably with nice lobby). What should I tell the Japanese agent if I want to look for "condominium with facilities"? or there isn't such a thing in Japan at the first place?
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Pretty much depends on your budget Japan is not like Malaysia where space is a premium here. If you have those facilities, be prepare to pay a premium not only in rent but maintenance fees. There might be some apartment with swimming pool, but tennis court, I am not too sure.
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Flanegan Do you think you could copy the format or something like the working in singapore thread and replicate it for the working in japan thread?
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Will try my best..
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In Japan, even if you are a part time staff, you are required to pay for employment pension (usually 8%-10% of gross salary).

What if a person leaves Japan subsequently? Does he/she got to wait until 50 y/o then only can claim, or he/she can make lump-sum withdrawal upon leaving the country?

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Any chance to work in Japan without Japanese language?
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English teacher but you need to be from "English speaking country"

Basically, there is no job that does not require Japanese at all. If there is, you will still need know some Japanese to live there.
If you got some special skills or knowledge, that Japanese don't have, then that is a different story.
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QUOTE(z21j @ May 6 2016, 10:40 PM)
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English teacher but you need to be from "English speaking country"

Basically, there is no job that does not require Japanese at all. If there is, you will still need know some Japanese to live there.
If you got some special skills or knowledge, that Japanese don't have, then that is a different story.
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Thanks for the info guys, seems like 0.09% chance bye.gif
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QUOTE(z21j @ May 2 2016, 04:53 PM)
In Japan, even if you are a part time staff, you are required to pay for employment pension (usually 8%-10% of gross salary).

What if a person leaves Japan subsequently? Does he/she got to wait until 50 y/o then only can claim, or he/she can make lump-sum withdrawal upon leaving the country?
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That is not really true. Alot of this so call part timers are not paying to the employment pension which is one of the main reason the pension system is close to collapsing.

The pension system is not like our EPF. Its more similar to our govt pension scheme where you get monthly allowance after you retire. You need to work a certain numbers of years (I think its 26 years now) before you are eligible to get a monthly pension. If you do leave Japan, with less than these numbers of years, the most you get back its just 2 months (if not mistaken) of your last drawn salary.
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Thanks for the info guys, seems like 0.09% chance  bye.gif
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If you never try you never know. smile.gif
Admittedly most foreigners I know here are being transferred from their parents companies in their home countries, but there are one or two who actually travel to Japan and found a job/wife here and settle down.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ May 9 2016, 12:45 PM)
That is not really true. Alot of this so call part timers are not paying to the employment pension which is one of the main reason the pension system is close to collapsing.

The pension system is not like our EPF. Its more similar to our govt pension scheme where you get monthly allowance after you retire. You need to work a certain numbers of years (I think its 26 years now) before you are eligible to get a monthly pension. If you do leave Japan, with less than these numbers of years, the most you get back its just 2 months (if not mistaken) of your last drawn salary.
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Ok. Thanks for the explanation. Which part of Japan that you are in currently?
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Ok. Thanks for the explanation. Which part of Japan that you are in currently?
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Currently in Tokyo。
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but now i'm exhausted working in sg. the desire is evaporating.

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used to dream to work in japan after graduated in 2013.

but now i'm exhausted working in sg. the desire is evaporating.
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If u were given a chance now will u stil got over?
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Apr 15 2016, 10:19 PM)
At least a Degree, according to Immigration Work Force Law.
Mine is very straight, a Degree Holder and a company willing to provide mandatory document to apply visa. I do all the paper work myself without using Immigration Lawyer, easier but am try to avoid to safe some cash for other stuff.

But I knew a few who don't have Degree or Education Cert but still manage to work legally in Japan.
There's a blackhole within the system for sure, I don't know how they get but maybe working experience or legal help from Lawyer.
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I can vouche OP info on black company lol. I worked in one for almost 3 years at a Game Company (lived in Japan for 5 and a half year)
Fark black company I hate em.

Also I'm one of the one that dont have a Degree but still get to work in Japan.
Loophole : You need a certificate from a Japanese college (senmon-gakkou) 2 Years minimum.
Then you can work in Japan but there is limitation as you can't work outside that certificate specialty. If you got Comp Sci, then you can't be Salesman.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ May 10 2016, 08:41 AM)
Currently in Tokyo。
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Seems that tokyo is a hot spot for malaysians
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Seems that tokyo is a hot spot for malaysians
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If you're in Creative or Music Industry... Along with Manga/Anime Industry.
Yup, Hot Spot because the Tokyo people really appreciate and supportive in what you doing.
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Seems that tokyo is a hot spot for malaysians
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Besides student there are actually a lot of Malaysians here in various industry. Quite a few are in high position who are not an expat. This means they work their way up. And of course currently we have Iris, the Malaysian girl who appears in a TV show and she is getting famous now in Japan. I think she even have her own album now.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ May 9 2016, 12:54 PM)
If you never try you never know. smile.gif
Admittedly most foreigners I know here are being transferred from their parents companies in their home countries, but there are one or two who actually travel to Japan and found a job/wife here and settle down.
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I need to change to Japanese MNC then hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ May 12 2016, 12:50 PM)
Besides student there are actually a lot of Malaysians here in various industry. Quite a few are in high position who are not an expat. This means they work their way up. And of course currently we have Iris, the Malaysian girl who appears in a TV show and she is getting famous now in Japan. I think she even have her own album now.
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She's famous because of the hitchhiking kan. lol
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Anyone in osaka city then?
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She's famous because of the hitchhiking kan. lol
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Yeah. I think she appears in a few episode but I only saw one. Suddenly she becomes famous and have her first album.
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I know one guy who have been working there for about 10 years. I am sure there are more especially students.
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Also to add on, the community here is Malaysian and not Chinese, Malay or Indian. We meet up or chat in FB, talk about politics, argue, and even sometimes about sensitive topics or religion. Its always intellectual discussion and then we move on to the next topic.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ May 13 2016, 01:18 PM)
Also to add on, the community here is Malaysian and not Chinese, Malay or Indian. We meet up or chat in FB, talk about politics, argue, and even sometimes about sensitive topics or religion. Its always intellectual discussion and then we move on to the next topic.
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Not only in Japan dude, whenever you're away from Malaysia, more Malaysian you are..
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Anyway guys I just got back from Japan (for interviews) and I got a job in Japan, and we are processing stuff for my visa.

I got a question tho for those who are living there. I had a hard time last time to transfer money back home, like going to the head office of Mizuho Ginko in Shinjuku just to do transfer and it takes days. Have anyone found out easier way to do it? Preferably online and fast?
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Anyway guys I just got back from Japan (for interviews) and I got a job in Japan, and we are processing stuff for my visa.

I got a question tho for those who are living there. I had a hard time last time to transfer money back home, like going to the head office of Mizuho Ginko in Shinjuku just to do transfer and it takes days. Have anyone found out easier way to do it? Preferably online and fast?
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You can try Western Union or Shinsei bank.
However all this need processing fees. Both have English websites and you can check them out.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jun 23 2016, 12:27 PM)
You can try Western Union or Shinsei bank.
However all this need processing fees. Both have English websites and you can check them out.
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Thank you, do you need to go to the office to do the transfer? or you can do it online?
Will check it out.

I heard a trick while I was there, with getting a citibank account and give the atm card to the person in Malaysia, and they can withdraw it directly from citibank atm without the need to wait for transfer. Not quite sure if its applicable now, and I never really had the chance to try it.

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Thank you, do you need to go to the office to do the transfer? or you can do it online?
Will check it out.

I heard a trick while I was there, with getting a citibank account and give the atm card to the person in Malaysia, and they can withdraw it directly from citibank atm without the need to wait for transfer. Not quite sure if its applicable now, and I never really had the chance to try it.
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For WU I think you need to go to their agent. For Shinsei you can open an account with them and then do the transfer.

As for Citibank, they have already pull out from Japan. So that would not work. If you talk about international banks, there is not many left here in Japan that do private banking. Cannot think of any actually.....
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@Flanegan, thank you for your sharing. I hope you can answer some of my questions below. My husband and I are transferring over between late Q3-Q4 this year. My questions are as follow:

1. You mentioned that your rental was 45k/mth, how big was your place?
2. I'm a creative by profession and will be giving up my job because I will be getting a dependent visa, which I can't work full time there. I know that I can apply to work part time and my annual salary cannot be more than a certain amount. I'm now building up my portfolio as a portrait photographer for engagements, maternity, newborns etc. I'll never work for an agency. My question is, is there a market for freelance photographer for such services there?
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jun 23 2016, 12:37 PM)
For WU I think you need to go to their agent. For Shinsei you can open an account with them and then do the transfer.

As for Citibank, they have already pull out from Japan. So that would not work. If you talk about international banks, there is not many left here in Japan that do private banking. Cannot think of any actually.....
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Shinsei bank sounds magical! Thank you for the info.

http://www.shinseibank.com/goremit/en/

This one right? Or were you talking about shinsei bank normal account?
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Shinsei bank sounds magical! Thank you for the info.

http://www.shinseibank.com/goremit/en/

This one right? Or were you talking about shinsei bank normal account?
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Yup this is the one. But I think you need to check with them in details what are the service charges.
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International driving license and converting it to Japanese license, anyone here ever done this before? Lots the the info on the web is for mericans, so I wonder what are the difference for us.

*hopefully the visa application goes thru without a hitch*
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International driving license and converting it to Japanese license, anyone here ever done this before? Lots the the info on the web is for mericans, so I wonder what are the difference for us.

*hopefully the visa application goes thru without a hitch*
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I havent done it before and the reason is you will need to take a driving test and also theoretical exam. Theory is easy but practical not so. Have a friend who took 3 times to pass. If you plan to buy a car, do take into account cost like car park, shaken....etc.
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Apr 11 2016, 08:44 AM)
My original purpose is to go there and study Japanese language for 6months - 1 year while trying to attend as many concert / live house, art exhibition and attending cultural event since I love their neo-modernism culture.
To be honest, I didn't really learn a lot because they taught everything formal and a lil' bit old school, the phrases I learnt and trying to converse with my Japanese friend at first felt awkward because I can't apply in real-life.
I got called "showa gaijin" because the way I speak like stuck in the 70-80's.

Yes, Japanese language is important since most of the people you will work are Japanese and their main communication solely Japanese language.
Unless you have close Japanese friend who are international-ninja (knows outside culture and fluent in English) but rare.

I met like 5-8 Malaysian who only speaks basic conversation and been living for almost 5-10 years.
Most of them working for Big Foreign Company or English Business Teacher for Business English School (ei-kaiwa)or English for Primary School Children, and of course Married to Japanese wife/husband.

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How I get my work in Japan goes like this..

One day, I felt bored after class after 1 month.

I asked my Japanese friend who are in the same industry is it possible for me to work in Japan maybe in long-term since I generally like Tokyo as 1 city and also the convenience of going everywhere without having cars.
They said is possible since I have the skills and unique experience. I only need to find the right person and everything will be fine.
So, they offered to help me, learn a few important phrases, word and structure sentences real-life and send a few agencies recommendation.

Straight 2 months after 1 month in Japan. Beside them helping me looking for vacancy or spread my name to a few agencies they know.
I apply a few agencies and commercial studio that I bookmark a few years ago when I'm in Australia. Send them an email and also post mail just to show my existence and my seriousness.

Out of 100+, I got like 20+ response to visit their office/studio just for meeting and see whether I'm fit to join with my specialty.
Majority of them have the photographer that have similar specialty with me, they're not interested to hire because afraid the job they receive can only support 1 photographer. But we still keep in touch until now.

End of Spring, before Summer season comes on my 3rd month in Japan.
While on the way to Omotesando to check out new sneakers shoe store and chocolate cafe at ura-harajuku.
I got a call back from 1 of the agencies. The President interested to meet me after one of the senior photographer hands him my portfolio. Since I'm on the way to Omotesando Station inside the train already, I ask them whether we can meet up now since I'm around the city center. They say ok..

After meet-up with the president of the agencies, with my chapalang Japanese but understandable.
He ask me a few simple question and random one.. What kind of girls I like.. Will I marry Japanese girl if I stay in Japan long-term.. haha
They hire me on the spot as part-timer since they want me to attend Japanese school for another month or 2.

2 months later, the president invited me to have a lunch with him. This time ask me some serious question.
What if they help me to apply working visa, but I'll pay for the application (which is only 4000yen that time, around RM120+).
The next day, went to immigration applied working visa and 2 weeks later got a call from immigration, brought my passport. Get a new visa and also new resident card.

3 months after living in Japan, Got a working visa and officially employed full-time. biggrin.gif

A month later, I got appointed to do a CM for Sandisk Japan and got send to New Zealand with my Colleague Photographer for 2 weeks.
Quite memorable one out of all the gigs I get while working in Japan.


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nice share bro

btw where do u stay and how much is the rent?
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Jun 23 2016, 03:15 PM)
Anyway guys I just got back from Japan (for interviews) and I got a job in Japan, and we are processing stuff for my visa.

I got a question tho for those who are living there. I had a hard time last time to transfer money back home, like going to the head office of Mizuho Ginko in Shinjuku just to do transfer and it takes days. Have anyone found out easier way to do it? Preferably online and fast?
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I had 2 bank account.
One is MUFG Bank for work (where salary, guarantee fees transfer to this account).
Second one is Shinsei Bank (where I'll bank-in as my savings, won't transfer to my Msian bank until I reach certain amount. The more you have the cheaper the transfer fee).

But if like my Dad or Sis ketuk me for pocket money.
I'll use Western Union.. Just go to their website and check available location nearby where you stay and send the money back to Malaysia.
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Jun 27 2016, 09:12 AM)
International driving license and converting it to Japanese license, anyone here ever done this before? Lots the the info on the web is for mericans, so I wonder what are the difference for us.

*hopefully the visa application goes thru without a hitch*
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Irony, International License only last for a year and you have to go back to Malaysia and apply again.
Long term, you have to take Driving Test in Japan.

I didn't take thou because I have the priviledge to ride the subway or bus to anywhere .....and once in a while I'll get pick up at the station nearby where I stay and straight away head to production location.
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QUOTE(Fujihime @ Jun 23 2016, 04:46 PM)
@Flanegan, thank you for your sharing. I hope you can answer some of my questions below. My husband and I are transferring over between late Q3-Q4 this year. My questions are as follow:

1. You mentioned that your rental was 45k/mth, how big was your place?
2. I'm a creative by profession and will be giving up my job because I will be getting a dependent visa, which I can't work full time there. I know that I can apply to work part time and my annual salary cannot be more than a certain amount. I'm now building up my portfolio as a portrait photographer for engagements, maternity, newborns etc. I'll never work for an agency. My question is, is there a market for freelance photographer for such services there?
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Please check your PM.
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Sorry guys.. Been away from the Internet Social Media World for almost 20 days.
I believe others who are currently lives in Japan will respond some of your Q's. lol
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QUOTE(lifeofkuli @ Jun 27 2016, 05:39 PM)
nice share bro

btw where do u stay and how much is the rent?
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Am back in Kota Kinabalu already.
2 years period I moved 3 times.

Upon reaching in Tokyo, Nishi-Kasai (Edogawa-ku) opposite Aeon Mall.
Very small room for a month... Sharing with bunch of people. Can be quite havoc and chaotic sometimes. I think I paid around 48k yen for a month, not worth it but convenient because Mall just in-front of the apartment.

A month later, found a studio apartment 30mins walk from Nishi-Kasai in a small Neighbourhood area. Higashi-Kasai, close to river where I can spend my freetime wandering around. I have my own Balcony front and back for only 45k yen a month. Best rent ever..

Then when things happen at home and decide to go back after visa expired.
Last 3 months I move to Arakawa-ku staying with a friend of mine who have extra room for me. He ask for 40k yen a month, very cheap since it's very convenient. Convenient Store, Big Supermarket and 2 stations just around the corner.
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Jun 27 2016, 04:59 PM)
Am back in Kota Kinabalu already.
2 years period I moved 3 times.

Upon reaching in Tokyo, Nishi-Kasai (Edogawa-ku) opposite Aeon Mall.
Very small room for a month... Sharing with bunch of people. Can be quite havoc and chaotic sometimes. I think I paid around 48k yen for a month, not worth it but convenient because Mall just in-front of the apartment.

A month later, found a studio apartment 30mins walk from Nishi-Kasai in a small Neighbourhood area. Higashi-Kasai, close to river where I can spend my freetime wandering around. I have my own Balcony front and back for only 45k yen a month. Best rent ever..

Then when things happen at home and decide to go back after visa expired.
Last 3 months I move to Arakawa-ku staying with a friend of mine who have extra room for me. He ask for 40k yen a month, very cheap since it's very convenient. Convenient Store, Big Supermarket and 2 stations just around the corner.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jun 27 2016, 10:24 AM)
I havent done it before and the reason is you will need to take a driving test and also theoretical exam. Theory is easy but practical not so. Have a friend who took 3 times to pass. If you plan to buy a car, do take into account cost like car park, shaken....etc.
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Thanks. Not a car tho, that is wayyy to expensive. Was thinking about a bike. I read that some country like Thailand and Singapore can just convert their licenses into Japanese License with only eye exam. So will probably take the test if I plan to stay longer then a year, and take rental car to travel.

QUOTE(Flanegan @ Jun 27 2016, 04:43 PM)
Irony, International License only last for a year and you have to go back to Malaysia and apply again.
Long term, you have to take Driving Test in Japan.

I didn't take thou because I have the priviledge to ride the subway or bus to anywhere .....and once in a while I'll get pick up at the station nearby where I stay and straight away head to production location.
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Thanks. After 5 years in Japan the last time, I think I'm not quite fond of the rush hour and packed train every single day, so I was thinking 50cc motor for commute and 250cc for travel on the highway (since I heard only 125cc and above can go onto highways, and 125cc above parking in tokyo is like double for those 125cc and under)
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Jun 28 2016, 10:33 AM)
Thanks. Not a car tho, that is wayyy to expensive. Was thinking about a bike. I read that some country like Thailand and Singapore can just convert their licenses into Japanese License with only eye exam. So will probably take the test if I plan to stay longer then a year, and take rental car to travel.
Thanks. After 5 years in Japan the last time, I think I'm not quite fond of the rush hour and packed train every single day, so I was thinking 50cc motor for commute and 250cc for travel on the highway (since I heard only 125cc and above can go onto highways, and 125cc above parking in tokyo is like double for those 125cc and under)
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you can actually chose an apartment that goes against the "traffic flow". That was one of the criteria I gave my agent when he find an apartment for me.
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All of you who are working in Japan can speak Japanese?
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i have 4years working exp in IT field(mostly 1st and 2nd line support)
only have local diploma no deg,
able to speak/understand basic japanese.
do i able to land even 0.1% chance to get a job in japan if i were to try for job hunting in japan?
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jun 28 2016, 10:06 AM)
you can actually chose an apartment that goes against the "traffic flow". That was one of the criteria I gave my agent when he find an apartment for me.
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Thanks for the advice, but going against the traffic flow means you will live inside Tokyo, as most traffic coming from outwards to the inner yamanote line. I bet it'll be quite expensive. My workplace will be at shibuya station.

QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Jun 29 2016, 04:39 PM)
i have 4years working exp in IT field(mostly 1st and 2nd line support)
only have local diploma no deg,
able to speak/understand basic japanese.
do i able to land even 0.1% chance to get a job in japan if i were to try for job hunting in japan?
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Unfortunately 0% chance (getting a job offer is not that hard, but getting the visa is). Minimum req for an engineer visa is a degree or 10 years of exp.
There is a loop hole for non degree holder, but it's sketchy even for someone who had been working there before like me.

Of course there is another type of visa, but google will probably be more help.

This post has been edited by Riolis: Jun 29 2016, 10:40 PM
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Thanks for the advice, but going against the traffic flow means you will live inside Tokyo, as most traffic coming from outwards to the inner yamanote line. I bet it'll be quite expensive. My workplace will be at shibuya station.
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That's true, but you can ask your agent about it. Am sure they are able to recommend. Unless you are renting it yourself, than its different story. There is no perfect solution though. If you want cheaper and bigger apartment, then will be outskirt like Kawasaki but pack like sardines. If you are willing to pay a bit more for a smaller apartment you can stay close to shibuya. It took me 2 months to find my current place. My agent was very kind and took me around tokyo nearly every weekend to look at houses/apartment.
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Jun 29 2016, 10:28 PM)
Thanks for the advice, but going against the traffic flow means you will live inside Tokyo, as most traffic coming from outwards to the inner yamanote line. I bet it'll be quite expensive. My workplace will be at shibuya station.
Unfortunately 0% chance (getting a job offer is not that hard, but getting the visa is). Minimum req for an engineer visa is a degree or 10 years of exp.
There is a loop hole for non degree holder, but it's sketchy even for someone who had been working there before like me.

Of course there is another type of visa, but google will probably be more help.
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thx for the feedback
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jun 30 2016, 09:21 AM)
That's true, but you can ask your agent about it. Am sure they are able to recommend. Unless you are renting it yourself, than its different story. There is no perfect solution though. If you want cheaper and bigger apartment, then will be outskirt like Kawasaki but pack like sardines. If you are willing to pay a bit more for a smaller apartment you can stay close to shibuya. It took me 2 months to find my current place. My agent was very kind and took me around tokyo nearly every weekend to look at houses/apartment.
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Yep, which what prompt my idea about living in the outskirts and driving a motocycle into Shibuya avoiding the packed train. Chances are both will end up costing about the same, on one side, fuel + parking fees per month, and on the other hand, higher rent. I guess the other factor is less concrete jungle, bigger place vs smaller place but more convenience (like conbini is 1 min walk away).

For now I'm just going to read up on stuff and think it through, for the first few months I will be living in a guest/shared house anyways.
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Hmm... Potential thread & TS same state with me smile.gif
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Yep, which what prompt my idea about living in the outskirts and driving a motocycle into Shibuya avoiding the packed train. Chances are both will end up costing about the same, on one side, fuel + parking fees per month, and on the other hand, higher rent. I guess the other factor is less concrete jungle, bigger place vs smaller place but more convenience (like conbini is 1 min walk away).

For now I'm just going to read up on stuff and think it through, for the first few months I will be living in a guest/shared house anyways.
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Dont forget that Japan is a four season country. During winter its cold and summer it rains a lot. So you really have to look at the pro and cons.
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Guys I have a question. I have been looking in Gaijinpot and multiple other jobsites...anyway, most of them are saying you must currently reside in Japan, or already holding a work permit before they consider to hire you.

So basically,

No work visa= no job offer
No job offer= no work visa

So how does one exactly get the employer to sponsor you in the 1st place? This is really hard for anyone that is not under "Skilled labor" category. This neverending cycle is BS. And not only Japan, I believe a lot of countries like AUS or TW also apply this rule as well...
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jul 2 2016, 11:44 AM)
Dont forget that Japan is a four season country. During winter its cold and summer it rains a lot. So you really have to look at the pro and cons.
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yeah, I guess when that time comes, suffer packed train. *sigh*

QUOTE(RavagerX @ Jul 4 2016, 04:51 PM)
Guys I have a question. I have been looking in Gaijinpot and multiple other jobsites...anyway, most of them are saying you must currently reside in Japan, or already holding a work permit before they consider to hire you.

So basically,

No work visa= no job offer
No job offer= no work visa

So how does one exactly get the employer to sponsor you in the 1st place? This is really hard for anyone that is not under "Skilled labor" category. This neverending cycle is BS. And not only Japan, I believe a lot of countries like AUS or TW also apply this rule as well...
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You didn't provide the most important info, what kind of jobs are you trying to look for? I got a job without visa and what not in the first place, only via skype interview, and later went there for face to face.
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yeah, I guess when that time comes, suffer packed train. *sigh*
You didn't provide the most important info, what kind of jobs are you trying to look for? I got a job without visa and what not in the first place, only via skype interview, and later went there for face to face.
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Um, I applied mostly for jobs in hospitality field. Like in hotels.

How did you do that?
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Um, I applied mostly for jobs in hospitality field. Like in hotels.

How did you do that?
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Hmm, your one is a tough one. I have heard people who work in hotels under "Specialist in Humanities Visa / International Services Visa", you just need a degree to be qualified for that visa.

Tough as in, your job is not portfolio based, like me and OP, but rather people-skill based. So people don't really hire over skype for that. So chances you are getting a job while staying in Malaysia is practically near nil. But I'm not saying you can't work in Japan, you just need to do it differently.

Here is what I think should work for you :
- Go to Japan, you should be able to stay there for 3 months max, stay in really cheap ass place and start applying and going to interview. Without Japanese skill, your choices will be narrow and some jobs can be dodgy.
= 50-50 chances of getting a job and visa sponsorship

- Go to Japan, learn Japanese, because your job is customer facing, need to talk to foreigners AND Japanese. So go and learn it, you only need at most 1 year to get your Japanese to Business level easy. Can be quite expensive if self-fund (but part-time work in Japan pays quite alot and can actually support you school fee/rent/living expenses easily, I only have money for 3 months of living, but cover everything with part time), but there is other ways like this thing I saw spammed here in Lowyat ( http://japan-school.com/ ) Then apply for job at the end of your school year. This should be 100% chances to get a job if you don't play around. I mean even a uni dropout dumbasses like me can get a job easy with this path, so if you don't play around should be no problem.

There are seriously shitload of job vacancy for your position. Just go there and get it if you want it. Even in gaijinpot shows alot of hotel jobs with visa sponsorship.

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Riolis, thx. That's what I thought...

I did applied to the Japan school thingy. They told me the session for this year has ended. Opening again at April 2017. I don't think I can just fly direct to Japan with totally no guarantee about the job and burn through my whole saving. I suppose the Japan school program is my best bet now.
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Jul 5 2016, 12:04 AM)
- Go to Japan, learn Japanese, because your job is customer facing, need to talk to foreigners AND Japanese. So go and learn it, you only need at most 1 year to get your Japanese to Business level easy. Can be quite expensive if self-fund (but part-time work in Japan pays quite alot and can actually support you school fee/rent/living expenses easily, I only have money for 3 months of living, but cover everything with part time), but there is other ways like this thing I saw spammed here in Lowyat ( http://japan-school.com/ ) Then apply for job at the end of your school year. This should be 100% chances to get a job if you don't play around. I mean even a uni dropout dumbasses like me can get a job easy with this path, so if you don't play around should be no problem.

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One year and learn Japanese Business? I have been here for mroe than 3 years and its still struggling. Even though I understand the conversation, I still need my staff to help me to translate. Normal conversation and daliy life is fine. Maybe I am bad with language.
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One year and learn Japanese Business? I have been here for mroe than 3 years and its still struggling. Even though I understand the conversation, I still need my staff to help me to translate. Normal conversation and daliy life is fine. Maybe I am bad with language.
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don't be down! so far what have u done to improve ur japanese language? i find that writing a diary in the language i'm learning helps. and of course i get someone to correct the entry.




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Is it really that easy for a gaijin to secure a job there legally?

For the working visa, is it really that easy to obtain? Just need your hiring company to fill your application & your passport? That's all? Validity is one year?

It had been my dream working in Japan since I am young.

But from your reply the average salary is only 500k yen, that is not a lot for an expensive city like Tokyo.
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Make a Japanese friend, approach your japanese colleague. Trust me.
Your 日本語 ability will improve faster, and also if you work with a company that require to speak formal language request them to give you their 'manual book'.

You'll learn faster from there.
I took 1 year Japanese course, but quit 3 months later because I realize I didn't learn much from the school.

I can 'sound' almost like native 6 months later but of course vocabulary wise am still learning something new everyday if I meet new people and observe how the way they use their own 'slang' and how the way they speak.


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QUOTE(deeplyheartbroken @ Jul 5 2016, 01:48 PM)
Is it really that easy for a gaijin to secure a job there legally?

For the working visa, is it really that easy to obtain? Just need your hiring company to fill your application & your passport? That's all? Validity is one year?

It had been my dream working in Japan since I am young.

But from your reply the average salary is only 500k yen, that is not a lot for an expensive city like Tokyo.
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Trust me, Tokyo ain't that expensive.
My lifestyle is more easier and carefree in Tokyo compare to my home here in Kota Kinabalu.
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QUOTE(yo_yo @ Jul 5 2016, 11:25 AM)
don't be down! so far what have u done to improve ur japanese language? i find that writing a diary in the language i'm learning helps. and of course i get someone to correct the entry.
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Haha...not down actually. Have sort of given up on business japanese even though I have a nihongo sensei provided by the company. I just leave it to my staff to do the communications while I pretend I dont understand. smile.gif
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QUOTE(deeplyheartbroken @ Jul 5 2016, 11:48 AM)
Is it really that easy for a gaijin to secure a job there legally?

For the working visa, is it really that easy to obtain? Just need your hiring company to fill your application & your passport? That's all? Validity is one year?

It had been my dream working in Japan since I am young.

But from your reply the average salary is only 500k yen, that is not a lot for an expensive city like Tokyo.
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500yen is consider more than average. Average in Japan is about 4million yen annually. Rent will be the most expensive. Transportation to work is normally paid for by the company so what left for you to spend is normally food.
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Jul 5 2016, 12:18 PM)
Trust me, Tokyo ain't that expensive.
My lifestyle is more easier and carefree in Tokyo compare to my home here in Kota Kinabalu.
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If it is a life without commitment, only rental & daily expenses in Tokyo I guess it is ok with 500k yen.

Currently I still have commitments such as family & loans to settle in Malaysia though, so with only 500k yen (~RM 20k) I believe it will just be a break-even for me currently

Guessed I should have started this journey long ago.

By the way on the visa question, appreciate your advice.
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500k is considered not a lot!? You will be in for a shocker when you come here dude >.> My fresh grad salary is 210k only.
You need to work in those so called global company to get over 500k.

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I failed badly at BM and English in SPM as well, so language is not my strong point. But everyday full time Japanese language course does help (for the writing and reading part), and I guess doing part time work after that and have to talk to people in Japanese counts as well I guess (for convo). Those people in construction work did teach me how to speak in 敬語 and all that crap.

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Nothing ventured nothing gain bud. I burn through my life savings the first time I went. Living in Japan is not that expensive if you know how to save. Live in those dorms or capsule hotel that cost around RM 3k per month. Air asia ticket is not even that expensive. Food is cheap cheap eat yoshinoya or matsuya everyday, half price bento at supermarket after 9pm, etc etc.

But yeah, Japanese language school route is probably the best and I'd recommend it whole heartily. Since you can work part time and supplement your income while learning hows working there is like.

And yeah, Japan school all starts in April~ Sakura season.

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Lucky you. My past experience in the IT field is not so carefree and easier.

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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Apr 23 2016, 03:18 PM)
Nope, either you need to get a business visa with 5 million yen capital.
or You can get Self-Employed visa with at least a proof earnings of at least 200,000yen a month to survive in Japan, but this one only applies to those who previously work in Japan with 'Working Visa'.

Since Malaysian passport don't need to apply for Visa anymore.. You can just come to Japan and stay for 3 months tourist visa.

Japan Immigration Lawyer might help you to with this issues.
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Hi Flanega, may I know how to apply for a setting up a business in Tokyo with 5 million yen capital which is about MYR200k. Do you know of a visa lawyer
who can do business set up and visa application together ?

I would like to do some trading business in Tokyo.. biggrin.gif
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Hi, I have a question here for those who experienced in Japan be it TS or anyone else.

May I know how the mobile phone work in Japan? I read there are SIM free and not SIM free, can I continue to use my smartphone in Malaysia over there?

Also, how's it for a foreigner to apply a mobile phone? I mean like getting a Maxis line, do I need to pay extra deposit? Which Telco company u recommend?

Other than that, how about internet? Is it as easy as here or I need a guarantor or something? Also, which ISP is recommended?

Thank you in advance!
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Jul 5 2016, 04:43 PM)
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Lucky you. My past experience in the IT field is not so carefree and easier.
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Let's say the Creative Industry in Japan really take care of creative people here lah. haha

Everything got taken care off such as food and transport (pre-production, production and post-production)..
All I need to do is attend meeting, listen to briefing and guide before production.
Then start shooting. Less worry and anxious to what am currently do now, because I have to take care of everything from A to Z (pitching, looking for crew, set budget, set time etcs) in production and the final outcome didn't turn out really well because everyone rely on me only.

Tokyo are more on rely on each other, let's say working in a team to produce good work.
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Hi Flanega, may I know how to apply for a setting up a business in Tokyo with 5 million yen capital which is about MYR200k. Do you know of a visa lawyer
who can do business set up and visa application together ?

I would like to do some trading business in Tokyo.. biggrin.gif
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Sorry, I don't know any Japan visa specialize lawyer.
I believe you can google a few good recommendation.
Or try searching Malaysia/Singapore Business in Japan on Facebook group, maybe those can help you.


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QUOTE(deeplyheartbroken @ Jul 5 2016, 04:42 PM)
If it is a life without commitment, only rental & daily expenses in Tokyo I guess it is ok with 500k yen.

Currently I still have commitments such as family & loans to settle in Malaysia though, so with only 500k yen (~RM 20k) I believe it will just be a break-even for me currently

Guessed I should have started this journey long ago.

By the way on the visa question, appreciate your advice.
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If you have tons of things to settle at home. I don't think is a good choice, i recommend just come for a vacation visit.
I knew a few business owner themselves don't own salary more than 500k yen a month.
Maybe 1 or 2 because they hustle their way up in music industry, they can get ギャラ-fee average 200k-400k yen per appearance to perform per show.
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QUOTE(hwa107 @ Jul 5 2016, 10:54 PM)
Hi, I have a question here for those who experienced in Japan be it TS or anyone else.

May I know how the mobile phone work in Japan? I read there are SIM free and not SIM free, can I continue to use my smartphone in Malaysia over there?

Also, how's it for a foreigner to apply a mobile phone? I mean like getting a Maxis line, do I need to pay extra deposit? Which Telco company u recommend?

Other than that, how about internet? Is it as easy as here or I need a guarantor or something? Also, which ISP is recommended?

Thank you in advance!
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If you move to Japan for a long period. No you cannot use your Malaysia Smartphone in Japan.

The only available prepaid simcard you can get in Japan is 'database' simcard which cause a lot 3k yen a month via b-mobile. (No Number, only data)
It will be very troublesome especially your colleague or friends try to contact you.

As long you have Japan Residence card, you can go to any official mobile provider store and apply for a new phone plan.
Normally you'll get between 3k-6k yen monthly with a smartphone for 2 years contract.
or like my friend, she directly purchase unlock iphone from softbank with standard 4k yen call/unlimited data plan with no contract. Basically she can cancel her plan anytime and bring back her unlock japan iphone back to Malaysia.

Any provider is fine in Japan just depends which plan you prefer.
Since my phone bill got covered by the company I work for.. I just pick Iphone unlimited data plan with number under Softbank Japan with 2 years contract. (between 3k-5500yen a month, once am reaching 500mb data they will automatically charge me 5500yen a month. or If my data didn't exceed 500mb, I only pay 3kyen a month).
Once am back in Malaysia, I just pay RM450 to unlock my Japan Iphone.

I know a few using NTT Docomo too...
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Jul 6 2016, 12:06 AM)
If you move to Japan for a long period. No you cannot use your Malaysia Smartphone in Japan.

The only available prepaid simcard you can get in Japan is 'database' simcard which cause a lot 3k yen a month via b-mobile. (No Number, only data)
It will be very troublesome especially your colleague or friends try to contact you.

As long you have Japan Residence card, you can go to any official mobile provider store and apply for a new phone plan.
Normally you'll get between 3k-6k yen monthly with a smartphone for 2 years contract.
or like my friend, she directly purchase unlock iphone from softbank with standard 4k yen call/unlimited data plan with no contract. Basically she can cancel her plan anytime and bring back her unlock japan iphone back to Malaysia.

Any provider is fine in Japan just depends which plan you prefer.
Since my phone bill got covered by the company I work for.. I just pick Iphone unlimited data plan with number under Softbank Japan with 2 years contract. (between 3k-5500yen a month, once am reaching 500mb data they will automatically charge me 5500yen a month. or If my data didn't exceed 500mb, I only pay 3kyen a month).
Once am back in Malaysia, I just pay RM450 to unlock my Japan Iphone.

I know a few using NTT Docomo too...
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Really can't use Malaysian phone? And I thought Malaysian phones all are unlocked, therefore can just pop in any SIM card.

The phone can't be use is due to the band (GSM/CDMA) right? Not because of phone being unlocked or not?

By the way thanks for the reply.
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CAn use malaysia phone no problem. Now got sim free MNVO provider. Google it. Just be careful of the band and what not.
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Jul 6 2016, 01:06 AM)
If you move to Japan for a long period. No you cannot use your Malaysia Smartphone in Japan.

The only available prepaid simcard you can get in Japan is 'database' simcard which cause a lot 3k yen a month via b-mobile. (No Number, only data)
It will be very troublesome especially your colleague or friends try to contact you.

As long you have Japan Residence card, you can go to any official mobile provider store and apply for a new phone plan.
Normally you'll get between 3k-6k yen monthly with a smartphone for 2 years contract.
or like my friend, she directly purchase unlock iphone from softbank with standard 4k yen call/unlimited data plan with no contract. Basically she can cancel her plan anytime and bring back her unlock japan iphone back to Malaysia.

Any provider is fine in Japan just depends which plan you prefer.
Since my phone bill got covered by the company I work for.. I just pick Iphone unlimited data plan with number under Softbank Japan with 2 years contract. (between 3k-5500yen a month, once am reaching 500mb data they will automatically charge me 5500yen a month. or If my data didn't exceed 500mb, I only pay 3kyen a month).
Once am back in Malaysia, I just pay RM450 to unlock my Japan Iphone.

I know a few using NTT Docomo too...
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Not true. I am still using my Maxis line with the cheapest package. I still need it due to those bank TAC.

Also if you have Japan Residence Card you can get a lot of sim free card here.The government have open up the market and you can also get lock free phone now in the market. Those sim free card you dont even need to sign a two year contract and you can terminate it anytime. They run on SOftbank/NTT/KDDI network. I haven try it though, so not sure how reliable are they.
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I failed badly at BM and English in SPM as well, so language is not my strong point. But everyday full time Japanese language course does help (for the writing and reading part), and I guess doing part time work after that and have to talk to people in Japanese counts as well I guess (for convo). Those people in construction work did teach me how to speak in 敬語 and all that crap.
Unfortunately I dont have the luxury of doing the full time Japanese course. My lesson is only one hour a week now. But yeah those intensive course will really help and its fun as well. When I did my post grad here and have a friends who took this courses under Monbusho and they really enjoy it.
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Good stuff you are sharing over there. Thanks ts
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Unfortunately I dont have the luxury of doing the full time Japanese course. My lesson is only one hour a week now. But yeah those intensive course will really help and its fun as well. When I did my post grad here and have a friends who took this courses under Monbusho and they really enjoy it.
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Hahaha yeah laugh.gif After you start working, your Japanese don't really improved at all (in my case). As the morning meeting 朝礼, and general meeting is mostly you listening and nodding, and the documents are mostly specialized, but at least your listening skills will be epic. I supplement it by reading newspaper, manga, and light novels, but I'm not passing N1 anytime soon without hard work.

1 hour per week will take forever O.O
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Hahaha yeah laugh.gif After you start working, your Japanese don't really improved at all (in my case). As the morning meeting 朝礼, and general meeting is mostly you listening and nodding, and the documents are mostly specialized, but at least your listening skills will be epic. I supplement it by reading newspaper, manga, and light novels, but I'm not passing N1 anytime soon without hard work.

1 hour per week will take forever O.O
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My company is not a Japanese company and there are a few gaijin besides me who cannot speak Japanese. Also we dont tend to follow strictly Japanese rules and we also have flexi hours. If there are non Japanese in the meeting then it has to be in English. Internal mail are also in English, so no point for me to improve my Japanese. smile.gif Unlike student time, goals have changed. After work its family time, so not much time for me to learn Japanese.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jul 7 2016, 11:19 AM)
My company is not a Japanese company and there are a few gaijin besides me who cannot speak Japanese. Also we dont tend to follow strictly Japanese rules and we also have flexi hours. If there are non Japanese in the meeting then it has to be in English. Internal mail are also in English, so no point for me to improve my Japanese. smile.gif Unlike student time, goals have changed. After work its family time, so not much time for me to learn Japanese.
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OMG, you will get nothing but jealousy from me. Where do I send in my resume sad.gif
If it were me, I'd say screw Japanese and take that family time.

Here's what in my 内定 offer.
"報酬には月45時間分の見込み残業手当を含む"

These people are very creative when they really want to, and what a magical way to not pay overtime work. laugh.gif
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OMG, you will get nothing but jealousy from me. Where do I send in my resume sad.gif
If it were me, I'd say screw Japanese and take that family time.

Here's what in my 内定 offer.
"報酬には月45時間分の見込み残業手当を含む"

These people are very creative when they really want to, and what a magical way to not pay overtime work. laugh.gif
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I am not able to claim OT though,so all the more for me to work the minimum. smile.gif My staff can claim OT though and I need to monitor it.
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Which is good for a non-Japanese company. Unfortunately from my prev experience, work to minimum and leaving office on time is very very bad for your valuation of your next salary increment. So with this crazy new system of not paying OT, means I'll be doing alot of service OT and not getting paid for it.

Buuuut, thats what I signed up for, and ready for that. I wished I knew about it the first time around and didn't have rose coloured glass on, else I'd still be in Japan, and not trying to go back in again. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Jul 8 2016, 10:46 AM)
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Which is good for a non-Japanese company. Unfortunately from my prev experience, work to minimum and leaving office on time is very very bad for your valuation of your next salary increment. So with this crazy new system of not paying OT, means I'll be doing alot of service OT and not getting paid for it.

Buuuut, thats what I signed up for, and ready for that. I wished I knew about it the first time around and didn't have rose coloured glass on, else I'd still be in Japan, and not trying to go back in again. laugh.gif
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Increment in my company is quite standard. Based on your performance and x the % agreed with the union. However increment is very negligible due to taxes. Also my company is result/performance oriented. We management have been encourage by the company to show example to our staff by not working late! So as long as I finish my work I just leave.
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I want to confirm, what kind of socket do Japan use? I search online it's like this:

user posted image

One big one small, is it true? What about the type with 3 pins?

user posted image

Is it common?


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QUOTE(hwa107 @ Jul 13 2016, 03:49 AM)
I want to confirm, what kind of socket do Japan use? I search online it's like this:

user posted image

One big one small, is it true? What about the type with 3 pins?

user posted image

Is it common?
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the first one....totally didn't see the 3pin during my visit there smile.gif

info: http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2225.html
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Well shit @_@

I thought CoE supposed to take a month or longer, not a single effing week, applied on 5th got today. Now I only have 2 week to prepare (the company wants me to come in on the 1st of August), apply visa, find temp housing, apply for international license, buy a suitcase, find a way to reject mimos job which I'm supposed to join next week *panik mode* I don't even have my todo list done yet.
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QUOTE(aLertz @ Jul 13 2016, 10:20 AM)
the first one....totally didn't see the 3pin during my visit there smile.gif

info: http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2225.html
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And I bought the wrong adapter... doh.gif

QUOTE(Riolis @ Jul 13 2016, 02:42 PM)
Well shit @_@

I thought CoE supposed to take a month or longer, not a single effing week, applied on 5th got today. Now I only have 2 week to prepare (the company wants me to come in on the 1st of August), apply visa, find temp housing, apply for international license, buy a suitcase, find a way to reject mimos job which I'm supposed to join next week *panik mode* I don't even have my todo list done yet.
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I'm joining my new company 1st of August too, but my CoE is on it's way.

May I know which company you are joining? Feel free to PM me if you feel uncomfortable to say here.
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QUOTE(hwa107 @ Jul 13 2016, 03:59 PM)
And I bought the wrong adapter...  doh.gif
I'm joining my new company 1st of August too, but my CoE is on it's way.

May I know which company you are joining? Feel free to PM me if you feel uncomfortable to say here.
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oh you applying when? on its way as in via fedex?
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Jul 13 2016, 05:26 PM)
oh you applying when? on its way as in via fedex?
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Yup, on it's way mean still with FeDex, so I haven't apply from the Japanese embassy yet, will do once I receive the CoE.
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QUOTE(hwa107 @ Jul 13 2016, 03:49 AM)
I want to confirm, what kind of socket do Japan use? I search online it's like this:

user posted image

One big one small, is it true? What about the type with 3 pins?

user posted image

Is it common?
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I have both type of socket in my room but the first one is more common
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Japan got both of those, the top is Type A, the bottom is Type B. The type A adapter will work on both those socket. So just buy that type and never need to worry.
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Jul 13 2016, 03:42 PM)
Well shit @_@

I thought CoE supposed to take a month or longer, not a single effing week, applied on 5th got today. Now I only have 2 week to prepare (the company wants me to come in on the 1st of August), apply visa, find temp housing, apply for international license, buy a suitcase, find a way to reject mimos job which I'm supposed to join next week *panik mode* I don't even have my todo list done yet.
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Welcome to Japan! Which part of Japan? TOkyo? Look at the bright side....after a week of work, its summer holidays!
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jul 14 2016, 09:01 AM)
Welcome to Japan! Which part of Japan? TOkyo? Look at the bright side....after a week of work, its summer holidays!
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ROFL I don't think I will be eligible for summer holiday during trial period. Not quite sure if my company even have summer holiday @_@;;

Shibuya Tokyo will be my office, still not sure where to stay yet.
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Yesh! CoE is 5 years! Time to raid the embassy and hopefully get a 5 years visa
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ROFL I don't think I will be eligible for summer holiday during trial period. Not quite sure if my company even have summer holiday @_@;;

Shibuya Tokyo will be my office, still not sure where to stay yet.
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Two more weeks and not sure where to stay? Your company not arranging anything for you?
Last year when I hire someone over from Malaysia I arrange a trip for her to come to Tokyo for a week to familiarized and look for a house. Not as rush as yours though.

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jul 14 2016, 12:27 PM)
Two more weeks and not sure where to stay? Your company not arranging anything for you?
Last year when I hire someone over from Malaysia I arrange a trip for her to come to Tokyo for a week to familiarized and look for a house. Not as rush as yours though.
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Well considering you are an international company, I'm not surprised. No arranging no helping except for applying the CoE, hwa107 might have better luck in that helping department, but for a typical fully Japanese run company I think this is pretty much the norm. Heck I went for final interview with the 役員 is with my own dime. laugh.gif

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Well considering you are an international company, I'm not surprised. No arranging no helping except for applying the CoE, hwa107 might have better luck in that helping department, but for a typical fully Japanese run company I think this is pretty much the norm. Heck I went for final interview with the 役員 is with my own dime. laugh.gif
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How did you managed to find this "So japanese" company? 10 years ago, I have worked in a traditional JP company and its really not for me, even though my boss at that time is quite "open minded" They must be paying you well, for you to go through all this!
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jul 14 2016, 01:53 PM)
How did you managed to find this "So japanese" company? 10 years ago, I have worked in a traditional JP company and its really not for me, even though my boss at that time is quite "open minded" They must be paying you well, for you to go through all this!
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Like any other jobs laugh.gif Head hunter laugh.gif Paying me well? I can place a bet that I'm probably getting 1/2 of what your salary is, or maybe 1/3, I don't get bonus as well sad.gif Oh you been to Japan 10 years ago?? I've been to Japan 7 years ago working in the same "so japanese"-type company and it wasn't for me as well laugh.gif mega_shok.gif But this time I'm know what to expect.

It probably not gonna end well, but its my last hurrah/YOLO moment before I settle down. A redo I suppose. Honestly I didn't have any plans to go back at all laugh.gif I just got a comfy job at Mimos and supposed to report in Monday next week. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Now I'm having sleepless night on how to reject them at the last minute, and all that.

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Like any other jobs laugh.gif Head hunter laugh.gif Paying me well? I can place a bet that I'm probably getting 1/2 of what your salary is, or maybe 1/3, I don't get bonus as well sad.gif Oh you been to Japan 10 years ago?? I've been to Japan 7 years ago working in the same "so japanese"-type company and it wasn't for me as well laugh.gif mega_shok.gif But this time I'm know what to expect.

It probably not gonna end well, but its my last hurrah/YOLO moment before I settle down. A redo I suppose. Honestly I didn't have any plans to go back at all  laugh.gif I just got a comfy job at Mimos and supposed to report in Monday next week.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif Now I'm having sleepless night on how to reject them at the last minute, and all that.
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I already have my last hurrah moment. smile.gif. Came back here its all because of the $$$. Frankly speaking I like working Msia much more than Japan. Malaysian are much more easier to work with compare with Japanese. If you plan to be a father, Japan would be a good place, simply because you are treated as a local as you pay taxes. This means, most of your hospital fees will be covered, including check up for your wife, child vaccination, etc. Your child will also be getting one year free for any visit to the doctor or pharmacy.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jul 14 2016, 02:45 PM)
I already have my last hurrah moment. smile.gif. Came back here its all because of the $$$. Frankly speaking I like working Msia much more than Japan. Malaysian are much more easier to work with compare with Japanese. If you plan to be a father, Japan would be a good place, simply because you are treated as a local as you pay taxes. This means, most of your hospital fees will be covered, including check up for your wife, child vaccination, etc. Your child will also be getting one year free for any visit to the doctor or pharmacy.
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Wow you must make a bomb there. Because personally I save more with Malaysian salary compared to Japan. If divided by cost of living, I'm making peanuts in Japan laugh.gif But totally agree, working in Malaysia is way better for your mental health compared then working in Japan, in a Japanese company. Its more relaxing, and honestly less taxing. Better and bigger house space as well not to mention cheaper. Having a car is relatively cheap.

Oh is that under the National health care or is it company specific? I never really think that far into the future. But I'm quite skeptical and very unsure about education in Japan. Its a culture of memorizing rather then a culture of thinker. And alot of weird social problems that I'm a bit scared of.

For me its more about the experience, and more currency stability to support my part time education. If Msia money keep dropping I'll be forking out more money to pay for tuition fees, I mean sure I can take local private Uni, but considering I have to spend 1 extra year to learn this stupid nonsensical subject. ughh. I'll take a 3 year online degree from RMIT any time of the day.

I've done quite alot today that I'm so beat, applied and got my International driving license, got CoE and then went to embassy and applied for visa, quite fast, they say tomorrow can come collect already. Book a hotel, and tonight need to start short listing temp accommodation and mailing them.
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Wow you must make a bomb there. Because personally I save more with Malaysian salary compared to Japan. If divided by cost of living, I'm making peanuts in Japan laugh.gif But totally agree, working in Malaysia is way better for your mental health compared then working in Japan, in a Japanese company. Its more relaxing, and honestly less taxing. Better and bigger house space as well not to mention cheaper. Having a car is relatively cheap.

Oh is that under the National health care or is it company specific? I never really think that far into the future. But I'm quite skeptical and very unsure about education in Japan. Its a culture of memorizing rather then a culture of thinker. And alot of weird social problems that I'm a bit scared of.

For me its more about the experience, and more currency stability to support my part time education. If Msia money keep dropping I'll be forking out more money to pay for tuition fees, I mean sure I can take local private Uni, but considering I have to spend 1 extra year to learn this stupid nonsensical subject. ughh. I'll take a 3 year online degree from RMIT any time of the day.

I've done quite alot today that I'm so beat, applied and got my International driving license, got CoE and then went to embassy and applied for visa, quite fast, they say tomorrow can come collect already. Book a hotel, and tonight need to start short listing temp accommodation and mailing them.
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Actually my salary is not a lot. smile.gif Its more of the add on I get like housing and travelling, etc. Company pay for my daily commute and that save alot as in Msia I have a car to maintain. I did some hard negotiation with them for my package. Basically I told them I want to maintain my lifestlye like I have in Msia and not an upgrade. So if roti canai cost RM2 I compare it to nan which is 500yen. smile.gif

Its actually part of the tax I pay for the municipal and also insurance. Its a combination of these. Also if your wife is working, she can take 1 year maternity leave and still get at about 67% of her salary! Of course I wont let my kid study in a Japanese school....now looking at some exit plan. smile.gif International school will be way too expensive. There are actually some really good international University in Japan if you really look into it. For economics or business try, Hitotsubashi. Lots of famous economist in this university.

You plan to drive in Japan? I am too lazy to take the exam as I heard you need to take at least 2-3 times before they pass you. For accomodation, where are you looking at? Kasai? or Roppongi? smile.gif
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jul 15 2016, 09:52 AM)
Actually my salary is not a lot. smile.gif Its more of the add on I get like housing and travelling, etc. Company pay for my daily commute and that save alot as in Msia I have a car to maintain. I did some hard negotiation with them for my package. Basically I told them I want to maintain my lifestlye like I have in Msia and not an upgrade. So if roti canai cost RM2 I compare it to nan which is 500yen. smile.gif

Its actually part of the tax I pay for the municipal and also insurance. Its a combination of these. Also if your wife is working, she can take 1 year maternity leave and still get at about 67% of her salary! Of course I wont let my kid study in a Japanese school....now looking at some exit plan. smile.gif International school will be way too expensive. There are actually some really good international University in Japan if you really look into it. For economics or business try, Hitotsubashi. Lots of famous economist in this university.

You plan to drive in Japan? I am too lazy to take the exam as I heard you need to take at least 2-3 times before they pass you. For accomodation, where are you looking at? Kasai? or Roppongi? smile.gif
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But train.... so packed bangwall.gif God I hate the sardine pack train. Can really drain you after a long day at work. Good you have housing because rent is a bitch there.

I totally I agree with you there is alot of international university there. Waseda is pretty good as well. But the local school, is omg, not so good. Imagine they have the same amount of English learning classes in school which is the same as us, but their English ability is dismal. Passing test is about memorizing flash card, I didn't have to think when I did the entrance exam to my college years ago in Japan, all about spending time memorizing stuff. International school is expensive as hell, and most company don't really subsidize that so most are out of luck. University (Local) cost a bomb as well too.

Exit plan? You can probably go back to Malaysia and live quite comfortably considering the experience you have. laugh.gif

Yes planning after my international license expire, sucks to be us because we are not Thailand or Singapore, because they can just convert their license to Japanese one with just eye exam. Mainly I just going to drive motorcycle to work and back, and weekends, rent a car and drive to place with more greenery laugh.gif

Since Shibuya is a hub for quite alot of line there is plenty of place I can find actually, right now I'm considering somewhere in Saitama. Around 1 hr+ train ride. Roppongi? Kasai? Noooo~ laugh.gif Not looking forward to live inside Tokyo. Last time I lived in Tokorozawa in Saitama it was fun. Got park nearby, not many tall buildings can see the sky unlike when I was living in Nakano. That day was depressing (while its great I can just walk home from work and no need to care about train) But living inside the concrete jungle is not something I look forward too. Open window see white wall. @_@;;

Arakawa-ku was pretty good tho, with the tram line running on street, it was cool to see that, and Arakawa-river. Fireworks! omg it was pretty.

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Got my visa for 5 years rclxm9.gif The consulate was so empty now that you don't need visa to enter Japan, so I got my visa printed in like less then 24 hours @_@ And I actually missed to fill in some section. They probably don't even read the forms.

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But train.... so packed  bangwall.gif God I hate the sardine pack train. Can really drain you after a long day at work. Good you have housing because rent is a bitch there.

I totally I agree with you there is alot of international university there. Waseda is pretty good as well. But the local school, is omg, not so good. Imagine they have the same amount of English learning classes in school which is the same as us, but their English ability is dismal. Passing test is about memorizing flash card, I didn't have to think when I did the entrance exam to my college years ago in Japan, all about spending time memorizing stuff. International school is expensive as hell, and most company don't really subsidize that so most are out of luck. University (Local) cost a bomb as well too.

Exit plan? You can probably go back to Malaysia and live quite comfortably considering the experience you have. laugh.gif

Yes planning after my international license expire, sucks to be us because we are not Thailand or Singapore, because they can just convert their license to Japanese one with just eye exam. Mainly I just going to drive motorcycle to work and back, and weekends, rent a car and drive to place with more greenery laugh.gif

Since Shibuya is a hub for quite alot of line there is plenty of place I can find actually, right now I'm considering somewhere in Saitama. Around 1 hr+ train ride. Roppongi? Kasai? Noooo~ laugh.gif Not looking forward to live inside Tokyo. Last time I lived in Tokorozawa in Saitama it was fun. Got park nearby, not many tall buildings can see the sky unlike when I was living in Nakano. That day was depressing (while its great I can just walk home from work and no need to care about train) But living inside the concrete jungle is not something I look forward too. Open window see white wall. @_@;;

Arakawa-ku was pretty good tho, with the tram line running on street, it was cool to see that, and Arakawa-river. Fireworks! omg it was pretty.
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Actually local university is not expensive especially if you are a foreigner compare to AU or UK. Most gives you some discount in tuition fees and some full scholarship as well. In fact they treat a foreigner better than their own people!

Not thinking of going back to Malaysia so soon....unless company send me back as an expat. smile.gif Talking to my boss to see if there is any opportunities in the States or Europe.

Saitama?? Thats far. Wont you get tired with all the commuting? There are some nice place with grenery like Kichijoji or Nerima or even daikanyama. smile.gif Since you are single, you have more choices then.
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any advice on healthcare industry ?
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Actually local university is not expensive especially if you are a foreigner compare to AU or UK. Most gives you some discount in tuition fees and some full scholarship as well. In fact they treat a foreigner better than their own people!

Not thinking of going back to Malaysia so soon....unless company send me back as an expat. smile.gif Talking to my boss to see if there is any opportunities in the States or Europe.

Saitama?? Thats far. Wont you get tired with all the commuting? There are some nice place with grenery like Kichijoji or Nerima or even daikanyama. smile.gif Since you are single, you have more choices then.
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Saitama is the home of crayon shin chan! laugh.gif *cough* I mean, reasons for getting a motorcycle laugh.gif But yes, can be very very tiring. 2 hours lost coming from and to. But it's just an idea, nothing concrete yet, gonna go and actually see anywhere 30mins out that is reasonable. I can go towards Chiba tho, using the sky tree train line, that is uncharted territory for me laugh.gif
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The feels when you transform a huge stack of RM 50 into a small stack of Yukichi. T_T
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Can i apply work VISA from KL Japan Embassy? Besides Coe, what other documents i should bring for this applications and how long it takes the VISA to be approved?

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Can i apply work VISA from KL Japan Embassy? Besides Coe, what other documents i should bring for this applications and how long it takes the VISA to be approved?

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http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/pd...pplication1.pdf

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Yes, you can apply KL Japan Embassy, you just need your passport, below application form that I link and your CoE. And it usually takes a day or two.

http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/pd...pplication1.pdf

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Nice to hear some of y'all settled your Working Visa.

If possible try to avoid staying around Tozai Line (from Nishi-Funabashi to Minami-Sunamachi Station) if you're working time around 8am-9am.

The train will be packed a.f no matter how many train shuttles every 2 minutes during peak hours unless your working time is at 10am, then no worries because the train will back to normal.

I decided will be moving to Tokyo too again next year (after 3 years away) as part of my last Y.O.L.O/Y.O.D.O moment before I decide where to settle.

Hopefully this Hustle moment gonna went well and able to land a gigs within my 3 months visa. haha
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#YOLO because why not laugh.gif Would be great to see you back there.

Good luck and we should do a gathering of lowyat peeps in Tokyo laugh.gif
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For those who is coming this August laugh.gif FIREWORKS!!!

http://hanabi.walkerplus.com/list/ar0313/

I'll probably be visiting every weekend till it all ends around Saitama area laugh.gif
The one by the place I'm living starts next week laugh.gif with the stall and all.
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Jul 31 2016, 07:46 PM)
For those who is coming this August laugh.gif FIREWORKS!!!

http://hanabi.walkerplus.com/list/ar0313/

I'll probably be visiting every weekend till it all ends around Saitama area laugh.gif
The one by the place I'm living starts next week laugh.gif with the stall and all.
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Last weekend fireworks was in Sumida-kawa, Asakusa......saw it on TV though....too hot to go and join the huge crowd!
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Aug 1 2016, 04:59 PM)
Last weekend fireworks was in Sumida-kawa, Asakusa......saw it on TV though....too hot to go and join the huge crowd!
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Yeah I prefer to go to the smaller fireworks events which is not as bad as sumida-kawa. At least you can see alot of hot girls on train wearing kimono. I can't imagine anyone wearing that in the heat tho, and rain and heat laugh.gif

I just learn I might has wasted all that time and money to make IDP, because IDP only for tourist, and if you have a resident visa, you can only drive with a Japanese driving license. So pretty much screwed until I can muster enough money to move into a house with a frigging parking spot, and then start taking lesson to do the conversion.

Some suggested those electric assisted bicycle. 10man, have anyone every tried those? I'm not willing to spend that much just to ride it and not help much.
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Yeah I prefer to go to the smaller fireworks events which is not as bad as sumida-kawa. At least you can see alot of hot girls on train wearing kimono. I can't imagine anyone wearing that in the heat tho, and rain and heat laugh.gif

I just learn I might has wasted all that time and money to make IDP, because IDP only for tourist, and if you have a resident visa, you can only drive with a Japanese driving license. So pretty much screwed until I can muster enough money to move into a house with a frigging parking spot, and then start taking lesson to do the conversion.

Some suggested those electric assisted bicycle. 10man, have anyone every tried those? I'm not willing to spend that much just to ride it and not help much.
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I thought you know about the IDP? If not mistaken you still can drive for a year and after that you need to convert to a Japanese license. You still need the IDP to do the conversion. Theory should be easy but not practical. Know a few friends that have taken at least 3 times to pass.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Aug 2 2016, 08:59 AM)
I thought you know about the IDP? If not mistaken you still can drive for a year and after that you need to convert to a Japanese license. You still need the IDP to do the conversion. Theory should be easy but not practical. Know a few friends that have taken at least 3 times to pass.
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I asked in reddit, it seems that the law says if you have a resident visa >3 months, then you are required by law to have a japanese drivers license. Only tourist are able to use IDP.

I'll paste the link later.. so sleepy.
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Two questions:

1. Just how much prospect can I work with Japan with my current education?
Current Institute: Muroran Institute of Technology, Hokkaido (National University)
Years: 3 years
Course: Architectural and Civil Engineering (Undergraduate)

2. Just how is the working environment in Japanese companies anyway? I kept hearing rumors about black company (ブラック企業) in Japanese corporate.

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Aug 2 2016, 08:59 AM)
I thought you know about the IDP? If not mistaken you still can drive for a year and after that you need to convert to a Japanese license. You still need the IDP to do the conversion. Theory should be easy but not practical. Know a few friends that have taken at least 3 times to pass.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/comments...xsoz3?context=3
Here's the thread, all the vets says that the law is unclear and police might fuck you up for that. IDP seems only for people on tourist visa and not residents.


QUOTE(sonicstream @ Aug 6 2016, 12:13 AM)
Two questions:

1. Just how much prospect can I work with Japan with my current education?
    Current Institute: Muroran Institute of Technology, Hokkaido (National University)
    Years: 3 years
    Course: Architectural and Civil Engineering (Undergraduate)
   
2. Just how is the working environment in Japanese companies anyway? I kept hearing rumors about black company (ブラック企業) in Japanese corporate.
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1. Not sure why are you asking this? You will have a Japanese degree and I assume with business level command of Japanese. Just go to your 就職活動サーポートセンター in your University and ask for jobs lisitng you wanna do and apply. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2. Don't think there are much black company any more, but if you join a mainly Japanese company, there is an expectation for you to work extra 2-4 hours for free, working on Sat or Sun or whole night is possible if project demands it. They won't push you to do it, but you will be looked down upon if you leave early. Its how the culture work. But unlike a black company, you will be paid for that overtime or can exchange that time as a replacement holiday if the OT hours exceed 8 hours. Still they keep finding creative ways to not pay your OT laugh.gif fucking japs.


P.S. Fireworks~!!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(Riolis @ Aug 6 2016, 08:41 AM)
https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/comments...xsoz3?context=3
Here's the thread, all the vets says that the law is unclear and police might fuck you up for that. IDP seems only for people on tourist visa and not residents.
1. Not sure why are you asking this? You will have a Japanese degree and I assume with business level command of Japanese. Just go to your 就職活動サーポートセンター in your University and ask for jobs lisitng you wanna do and apply. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2. Don't think there are much black company any more, but if you join a mainly Japanese company, there is an expectation for you to work extra 2-4 hours for free, working on Sat or Sun or whole night is possible if project demands it. They won't push you to do it, but you will be looked down upon if you leave early. Its how the culture work. But unlike a black company, you will be paid for that overtime or can exchange that time as a replacement holiday if the OT hours exceed 8 hours. Still they keep finding creative ways to not pay your OT laugh.gif fucking japs.
P.S. Fireworks~!!!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Firework in my area is over because summer in Hokkaido is short. I wished winter come soon because I love skiing. rclxm9.gif
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Well fark. @_@

Its my 2nd week, and when I was on my way to work yesterday I saw a dead body of a girl in her 20s, got hit by those Sagawa truck and there is plenty of cops around trying to cover the scene with a tarp. But obviously still visible.

And she got hit on a traffic light zebra crossing infront of my office. Not sure who is at fault, the driver or the girl?, but either ways that now make me terrified to cross the road.

Japan have been eventful but this on my 2nd week is a bit crazy. Whats gonna happen on my 3rd week T_T After they clean it up, they pull out a banner that wrote 死亡事故発生現場

Damn so young and so pretty. RIP
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hi, currently I’m in japan and finding job and got an invitation to attend the company 内定式懇親会. Since this is my first time attend this kind of event, any sifu that work in Japan can share what to prepare for it? I think probably MUST memorize all the 敬語?
I’m really worried on my Japanese speaking skills although I passed JLPT N2. I’m really worried on my Japanese speaking skills although the HR recruiter said my Japanese is good enough to survive because some of the gaijin in the company have weaker Japanese skill than me when they join the company.

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OMG, you will get nothing but jealousy from me. Where do I send in my resume sad.gif
If it were me, I'd say screw Japanese and take that family time.

Here's what in my 内定 offer.
"報酬には月45時間分の見込み残業手当を含む"

These people are very creative when they really want to, and what a magical way to not pay overtime work. laugh.gif
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内定 offer provided after attend 内定式?
after 内定 still need to go through a lot interview and test right?
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Is it really that easy for a gaijin to secure a job there legally?

For the working visa, is it really that easy to obtain? Just need your hiring company to fill your application & your passport? That's all? Validity is one year?

It had been my dream working in Japan since I am young.

But from your reply the average salary is only 500k yen, that is not a lot for an expensive city like Tokyo.
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500k yen? i saw most offer for entry level only 180k-250k yen only
same here Its my dream to work in Tokyo, and hopefully can become volunteer for Olympic 2020

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I work in Japan before and really didn't like the culture there. They work too hard and stressful. smile.gif Anyway, if you can take that, do go ahead... smile.gif
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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 08:06 PM)
hi, currently I’m in japan and finding job and got an invitation to attend the company 内定式懇親会. Since this is my first time attend this kind of event, any sifu that work in Japan can share what to prepare for it? I think probably MUST memorize all the 敬語?
I’m really worried on my Japanese speaking skills although I passed JLPT N2. I’m really worried on my Japanese speaking skills although the HR recruiter said my Japanese is good enough to survive because some of the gaijin in the company have weaker Japanese skill than me when they join the company.
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Naitei in essence is an offer letter, if you get that you already got the job. Considering you got are invited for the naitei shiki you are confirm for a job already, since its like orientation day, they invite you and they give speech and all that. You dont need to do all of that, you should be good already, its just like a formality. And yes you do need to practice your keigo, but its not a necessity, its all about welcoming you to the company rather then to test you. You already got the job yo, so congrats.

Did you get an offer letter? then that is the naitei thinggy.

N2 is fine yo. You will learn as you go.

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I work in Japan before and really didn't like the culture there. They work too hard and stressful. smile.gif Anyway, if you can take that, do go ahead... smile.gif
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Ya, overtime seems to be normal in Japan, don't like but no choice want to get oversea work experience

QUOTE(Riolis @ Sep 20 2016, 08:53 PM)
Naitei in essence is an offer letter, if you get that you already got the job. Considering you got are invited for the naitei shiki you are confirm for a job already, since its like orientation day, they invite you and they give speech and all that. You dont need to do all of that, you should be good already, its just like a formality. And yes you do need to practice your keigo, but its not a necessity, its all about welcoming you to the company rather then to test you. You already got the job yo, so congrats.

Did you get an offer letter? then that is the naitei thinggy.

N2 is fine yo. You will learn as you go.
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Thanks, I just got a call from Japanese friend in Japan, seems naitei is confirmation to them, but really without black and white formal document i don't really trust, hopefully more info provided after attend the naitei

No offer letter that's why

Hopefully will improve after work, anyway I enjoy watch Japanese bangumi especially matsuko, 家ついてっていいですか thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:20 PM)
Ya, overtime seems to be normal in Japan, don't like but no choice want to get oversea work experience
Thanks, I just got a call from Japanese friend in Japan, seems naitei is confirmation to them, but really without black and white formal document i don't really trust, hopefully more info provided after attend the naitei

No offer letter that's why

Hopefully will improve after work, anyway I enjoy watch Japanese bangumi especially matsuko, 家ついてっていいですか thumbup.gif
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How many interviews did you had? did you already had the interview with the director class?
No salary offer yet?

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QUOTE(Riolis @ Sep 20 2016, 09:30 PM)
How many interviews did you had? did you already had the interview with the director class?
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I go to a job fair in Japan, interview by hr recruiter, and on second meet up she offer the naiteisiki, that's why I think not confirm yet since no test no interview with technical people and director, maybe because I have 8 years working experience in Malaysia that's why can skip?

Probably naitei only

No offer letter

But I heard from Japanese they say unlike Malaysia Japan company don't directly offer the position, need to go through OJT and then only assign position

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:35 PM)
I go to a job fair in Japan, interview by hr recruiter, and on second meet up she offer the naiteisiki, that's why I think not confirm yet since no test no interview with technical people and director, maybe because I have 8 years working experience in Malaysia that's why can skip?

Probably naitei only

No offer letter

But I heard from Japanese they say unlike Malaysia Japan company don't directly offer the position, need to go through OJT and then only assign position
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Are you a fresh grad recruit? how big is the company?
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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:35 PM)
I go to a job fair in Japan, interview by hr recruiter, and on second meet up she offer the naiteisiki, that's why I think not confirm yet since no test no interview with technical people and director, maybe because I have 8 years working experience in Malaysia that's why can skip?

Probably naitei only

No offer letter

But I heard from Japanese they say unlike Malaysia Japan company don't directly offer the position, need to go through OJT and then only assign position
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Oh there is no skipping, I have 10 years exp I still have to go thru the interview. Maybe its because of the job fair thinggy, I'm not really sure, I dont have much experience in this kind of recruitment. I went for the normal interview -> job offer
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Sep 20 2016, 09:51 PM)
Are you a fresh grad recruit? how big is the company?
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8 years work experience, 0 in japan
1k employee, 10% is gaijin

QUOTE(Riolis @ Sep 20 2016, 09:59 PM)
Oh there is no skipping, I have 10 years exp I still have to go thru the interview. Maybe its because of the job fair thinggy, I'm not really sure, I dont have much experience in this kind of recruitment. I went for the normal interview -> job offer
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wow 10 years experience senpai
probably after the neiteisiki there will be more interview then
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I think now Japanese companies are moving towards globalization. Met a Malaysian recently in Tokyo who knows no Japanese but working in a very Japanese company. He says that the company is expanding overseas and hence need some foreigners to work there. Now you can even work in convenience store like Lawson and Family Mart with N3.
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Aug 11 2016, 06:45 AM)
Well fark. @_@

Its my 2nd week, and when I was on my way to work yesterday I saw a dead body of a girl in her 20s, got hit by those Sagawa truck and there is plenty of cops around trying to cover the scene with a tarp. But obviously still visible.

And she got hit on a traffic light zebra crossing infront of my office. Not sure who is at fault, the driver or the girl?, but either ways that now make me terrified to cross the road.

Japan have been eventful but this on my 2nd week is a bit crazy. Whats gonna happen on my 3rd week T_T After they clean it up, they  pull out a banner that wrote 死亡事故発生現場

Damn so young and so pretty. RIP
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OK, I know this may sound morbid and kinda related to this thread but I do have a question in mind and I hope that anyone has been thinking the same thing. Have you or anyone experienced where someone has committed suicide due to work related stress? Many people outside of Japan has heard about the suicide rate over there and I'm really surprised when I heard about that.
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Those earning yen should be happy now, Yen to MYR rate going to break 10 years high.
Do anyone heard japan going to face another bubble economy soon?
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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:35 PM)
I go to a job fair in Japan, interview by hr recruiter, and on second meet up she offer the naiteisiki, that's why I think not confirm yet since no test no interview with technical people and director, maybe because I have 8 years working experience in Malaysia that's why can skip?

Probably naitei only

No offer letter

But I heard from Japanese they say unlike Malaysia Japan company don't directly offer the position, need to go through OJT and then only assign position
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So what happened? are you in Japan now?
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Oct 18 2016, 08:49 AM)
So what happened? are you in Japan now?
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Attended the naitei welcome ceremony, now waiting for further instruction for what to do
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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Oct 18 2016, 02:18 PM)
Attended the naitei welcome ceremony, now waiting for further instruction for what to do
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Hmm what a weird company, no interview and what not afterwards?
Did you figure out what the hell that ceremony is about?
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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 23 2016, 01:44 PM)
Those earning yen should be happy now, Yen to MYR rate going to break 10 years high.
Do anyone heard japan going to face another bubble economy soon?
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Japan government would probably print money soon and bring down their currency. Their main source of income is export, with the increase in Japanese yen, the export income maybe significantly affected.


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QUOTE(z21j @ Oct 18 2016, 08:25 PM)
Japan government would probably print money soon and bring down their currency. Their main source of income is export, with the increase in Japanese yen, the export income maybe significantly affected.
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Thats why I am slowly moving yen out ....

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QUOTE(Riolis @ Oct 18 2016, 03:58 PM)
Hmm what a weird company, no interview and what not afterwards?
Did you figure out what the hell that ceremony is about?
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Purpose of the ceremony just to invite all the candidate that will join the company to gather together, then some simple briefing on the company, and socialize among the candidates with the existing employee inside the company.

Its the culture of japan, before i try search for job i dont even know this thing exist. Company even pay for the transportation fees for all the candidates. Waste so much money for this simple gathering.
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So~
Is there a community here for Malaysian people?
Where do you guys/gals meet up with other Malaysians or everyone is out there on their own?
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Dec 7 2016, 04:29 PM)
So~
Is there a community here for Malaysian people?
Where do you guys/gals meet up with other Malaysians or everyone is out there on their own?
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We do have our own community here. IF you are a student there is a Malaysian Student group.....cannot remember the name that works close with the embassy. Besides that there is a close Facebook group where most members are base in Japan. Sometimes we do organized makan makan. Of course its Tokyo-centrci but I am sure there are other groups out there. For me though, my group is mostly foreigners working in Japan, not necessary Malaysian.

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HI sifus. I have a question here. I may be considering an international assignment of 1 yr to Yokohama but my company will be paying me in MYR instead of Yen. Will I be double taxed as in income tax in Msia & Jpn or only kena tax in Msia? How about other taxes like EPF & stuff?
Was trying to read up articles on this, a good read up found at PWC website (https://www.pwc.com/us/en/hr-international-assignment-services/assets/japan-folio.pdf)
but the more i read, the more confusing it is @_@
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QUOTE(aska @ Dec 11 2016, 11:07 AM)
HI sifus. I have a question here. I may be considering an international assignment of 1 yr to Yokohama but my company will be paying me in MYR instead of Yen. Will I be double taxed as in income tax in Msia & Jpn or only kena tax in Msia? How about other taxes like EPF & stuff?
Was trying to read up articles on this, a good read up found at PWC website (https://www.pwc.com/us/en/hr-international-assignment-services/assets/japan-folio.pdf)
but the more i read, the more confusing it is @_@
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The question is what status will you be? Non-resident or resident? Will you be getting a work visa here in Japan? I think all this you have to ask your company. I presume you will be consider a delegate and your company will help you to settle all the taxes?

Unless of course you come in here as a tourist and leave the country every 3 months, then you dont need to pay taxes, though you may be question by immigration.
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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:35 PM)
I go to a job fair in Japan, interview by hr recruiter, and on second meet up she offer the naiteisiki, that's why I think not confirm yet since no test no interview with technical people and director, maybe because I have 8 years working experience in Malaysia that's why can skip?

Probably naitei only

No offer letter

But I heard from Japanese they say unlike Malaysia Japan company don't directly offer the position, need to go through OJT and then only assign position
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May I know when was the job fair or any details I can read this up on internet? I too have close to 8 years of technical experience. Planning for N2 now and start trying my luck after that.

Would love to see more experience shared by senpai how they gotten their offer/ interview.

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So anyone here succeeded on getting a credit card?
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So anyone here succeeded on getting a credit card?
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Good question! I got mine after a few try. Normally bank CCs are the hardest. Try shopping complex like Isetan/Takashimaya. They are the easiest. That was my first card. Heard that Rakuten is easy as well. Been told that the reason its difficult for foreigners is because we do not have any credit information. Once you get your first one, use it for while to build up your credit history then it will be easy.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Dec 16 2016, 09:37 AM)
Good question! I got mine after a few try. Normally  bank CCs are the hardest. Try shopping complex like Isetan/Takashimaya. They are the easiest. That was my first card. Heard that Rakuten is easy as well. Been told that the reason its difficult for foreigners is because we do not have any credit information. Once you get your first one, use it for while to build up your credit history then it will be easy.
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Ah which shopping complex and how many years when you are here before you apply btw?
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Dec 16 2016, 10:46 AM)
Ah which shopping complex and how many years when you are here before you apply btw?
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Isetan. Got it after 6-9months in Japan. Cannot really remember exactly when. When first arrived, I tried banks that I have an account and yodobashi but got rejected.

Most big players, like ISetan, Aeon Takashimaya have thier own CC. During promotion period, they even give you cash voucher just to apply. So just apply and you have nothing to lose even if it is rejected!


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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Dec 16 2016, 11:00 AM)
Isetan. Got it after 6-9months in Japan. Cannot really remember exactly when. When first arrived, I tried banks that I have an account and yodobashi but got rejected.

Most big players, like ISetan, Aeon Takashimaya have thier own CC. During promotion period, they even give you cash voucher just to apply. So just apply and you have nothing to lose even if it is rejected!
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yeah I tried applying to Life, and Amazon card and got rejected.
I remember reading on reddit, the more you get rejected, you will get rejected when you are applying for the next card.

Will go to Aeon tomorrow and see if theres those guys who always pester people to register.
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QUOTE(Riolis @ Dec 16 2016, 12:35 PM)
yeah I tried applying to Life, and Amazon card and got rejected.
I remember reading on reddit, the more you get rejected, you will get rejected when you are applying for the next card.

Will go to Aeon tomorrow and see if theres those guys who always pester people to register.
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I am not too sure about that. At that time I did apply a lot and even though I got my first card I was still getting rejection from bank. But now I have quite a few like Rakuten, ANA, etc. Some I just apply due to the voucher (sometimes 3000yen) and then reject it if I get it. smile.gif
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hi there, i would like to know whether civil engineers are sought after there?

i'm just a fresh grad with 1 year experience, is it unlikely that i'll be able to stand out and be noticed? since i'm not that experienced yet and haven't really acquire any special skills set.

or what kind of skills do you think they'll be looking for?
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QUOTE(jaskknd @ Dec 19 2016, 05:44 PM)
hi there, i would like to know whether civil engineers are sought after there?

i'm just a fresh grad with 1 year experience, is it unlikely that i'll be able to stand out and be noticed? since i'm not that experienced yet and haven't really acquire any special skills set.

or what kind of skills do you think they'll be looking for?
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Perhaps ur Japanese language and network?
Also, show your prospect employer abt what u did in the past one year
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jul 6 2016, 08:52 AM)
Not true. I am still using my Maxis line with the cheapest package. I still need it due to those bank TAC.

Also if you have Japan Residence Card you can get a lot of sim free card here.The government have open up the market and you can also get lock free phone now in the market. Those sim free card you dont even need to sign a two year contract and you can terminate it anytime. They run on SOftbank/NTT/KDDI network. I haven try it though, so not sure how reliable are they.
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Sorry, backtracking a little , regarding on mobile phones in Japan.
Anyone tried using prepaid sim card on their Malaysia Phone? I will be there for a one year assignment only so I don't see the need to get a postpaid plan. Heard a lot about Iijmio sim card & its affordability. So was just thinking about getting it & using on my phone. Anyone tried this method before? confused.gif
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QUOTE(aska @ Jan 10 2017, 11:52 PM)
Sorry, backtracking a little , regarding on mobile phones in Japan.
Anyone tried using prepaid sim card on their Malaysia Phone? I will be there for a one year assignment only so I don't see the need to get a postpaid plan. Heard a lot about Iijmio sim card & its affordability. So was just thinking about getting it & using on my phone.  Anyone tried this method before?  confused.gif
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Yup you can. In fact I am doing it now. Currently there are a lot of packages around and I am using the one offered by AEON. Took the cheapest package of 500yen/month with 1GB and SMS. No calls though as I dont need it. As it is running on NTT network, the internet is really fast. Currently there are a lot of these providers out there. YOu just need to ask them which network are they running on. Also they will need some identification before they sell you the card.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jan 11 2017, 08:51 AM)
Yup you can. In fact I am doing it now. Currently there are a lot of packages around and I am using the one offered by AEON. Took the cheapest package of 500yen/month with 1GB and SMS. No calls though as I dont need it. As it is running on NTT network, the internet is really fast. Currently there are a lot of these providers out there. YOu just need to ask them which network are they running on. Also they will need some identification before they sell you the card.
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cool, thanks for sharing, Sacwoc. That really helps a lot. I dont need to signed up a 2 year contract then, hehe.
Btw, which phone are you using? Iphone? Samsung?
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QUOTE(aska @ Jan 11 2017, 09:02 PM)
cool, thanks for sharing, Sacwoc. That really helps a lot. I dont need to signed up a 2 year contract then, hehe.
Btw, which phone are you using? Iphone? Samsung?
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I am using an iphone 5. You can just tell them the type of SIM card you need and it fine. However in Japan whatever you do there is admin fees. Cost me 3000 yen as admin fee. Good thing is that I can cancel it anytime without paying a penalty
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Hi there. I just want to ask is it possible for American companies in Japan to hire someone with very very basic knowledge of Japanese probably N5 to work there? In accounts line
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Yo, I will be in Tokyo this March for 3 weeks.
Meeting with a few Creative Agencies there, convincing them to help me apply Artist Visa. haha

I will be staying in Hibarigaoka area. Let's have meet-up yumcha!
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Great sharing experience dude!! nice to read though! haha would love to go there oneday
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Yo, I will be in Tokyo this March for 3 weeks.
Meeting with a few Creative Agencies there, convincing them to help me apply Artist Visa. haha

I will be staying in Hibarigaoka area. Let's have meet-up yumcha!
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Just let me know when you are here.
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Hi there. I just want to ask is it possible for American companies in Japan to hire someone with very very basic knowledge of Japanese probably N5 to work there? In accounts line
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Not sure if this is the correct place to ask. I am sure your HR in Japan will know better.
For reference my company have hired a Malaysian girl directly from KL with 0 knowledge in Japanese to do Finance.
No idea what my HR did. As far as I know, Japanese is not so important for visa.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Jan 13 2017, 12:57 PM)
Not sure if this is the correct place to ask. I am sure your HR in Japan will know better.
For reference my company have hired a Malaysian girl directly from KL with 0 knowledge in Japanese to do Finance.
No idea what my HR did. As far as I know, Japanese is not so important for visa.
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I see. Alright thanks
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Apr 11 2016, 08:44 AM)
My original purpose is to go there and study Japanese language for 6months - 1 year while trying to attend as many concert / live house, art exhibition and attending cultural event since I love their neo-modernism culture.
To be honest, I didn't really learn a lot because they taught everything formal and a lil' bit old school, the phrases I learnt and trying to converse with my Japanese friend at first felt awkward because I can't apply in real-life.
I got called "showa gaijin" because the way I speak like stuck in the 70-80's.

Yes, Japanese language is important since most of the people you will work are Japanese and their main communication solely Japanese language.
Unless you have close Japanese friend who are international-ninja (knows outside culture and fluent in English) but rare.

I met like 5-8 Malaysian who only speaks basic conversation and been living for almost 5-10 years.
Most of them working for Big Foreign Company or English Business Teacher for Business English School (ei-kaiwa)or English for Primary School Children, and of course Married to Japanese wife/husband.

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How I get my work in Japan goes like this..

One day, I felt bored after class after 1 month.

I asked my Japanese friend who are in the same industry is it possible for me to work in Japan maybe in long-term since I generally like Tokyo as 1 city and also the convenience of going everywhere without having cars.
They said is possible since I have the skills and unique experience. I only need to find the right person and everything will be fine.
So, they offered to help me, learn a few important phrases, word and structure sentences real-life and send a few agencies recommendation.

Straight 2 months after 1 month in Japan. Beside them helping me looking for vacancy or spread my name to a few agencies they know.
I apply a few agencies and commercial studio that I bookmark a few years ago when I'm in Australia. Send them an email and also post mail just to show my existence and my seriousness.

Out of 100+, I got like 20+ response to visit their office/studio just for meeting and see whether I'm fit to join with my specialty.
Majority of them have the photographer that have similar specialty with me, they're not interested to hire because afraid the job they receive can only support 1 photographer. But we still keep in touch until now.

End of Spring, before Summer season comes on my 3rd month in Japan.
While on the way to Omotesando to check out new sneakers shoe store and chocolate cafe at ura-harajuku.
I got a call back from 1 of the agencies. The President interested to meet me after one of the senior photographer hands him my portfolio. Since I'm on the way to Omotesando Station inside the train already, I ask them whether we can meet up now since I'm around the city center. They say ok..

After meet-up with the president of the agencies, with my chapalang Japanese but understandable.
He ask me a few simple question and random one.. What kind of girls I like.. Will I marry Japanese girl if I stay in Japan long-term.. haha
They hire me on the spot as part-timer since they want me to attend Japanese school for another month or 2.

2 months later, the president invited me to have a lunch with him. This time ask me some serious question.
What if they help me to apply working visa, but I'll pay for the application (which is only 4000yen that time, around RM120+).
The next day, went to immigration applied working visa and 2 weeks later got a call from immigration, brought my passport. Get a new visa and also new resident card.

3 months after living in Japan, Got a working visa and officially employed full-time. biggrin.gif

A month later, I got appointed to do a CM for Sandisk Japan and got send to New Zealand with my Colleague Photographer for 2 weeks.
Quite memorable one out of all the gigs I get while working in Japan.


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Very interesting experience and story bro. Are you back in Kk for good? Do you miss Japan lifestyle?
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Apr 15 2016, 08:17 PM)
Rental will be around 40k-80k yen a month depends on location, distance to train station and also the age of the building. Oh ya, plus the size.
Elite or Prime area will be around 70k-200k yen a month.

Average of normal rental will be cost around 60k yen a month.. If you're lucky enough, 40k yen a month is like jackpot for everyone here.
I manage to get 45k yen a month, 12 mins walk to Station or 5 mins bicycle ride to Station. Neighbourhood located at the riverside between East Tokyo and West Chiba.
Perfect spot for me to have evening breeze walk once in a while...

Depends on your personal financial. Start struggling in the beginning and enjoy the progress like any other Japanese who comes from different prefecture. (Trust me, they are broke as f*ck than any foreigner who move to Japan)
Or save as many saving as you can, start plurge in the beginning and slowly control your budget financially.

I booked a share house room a month in-advanced once I decide to move to Tokyo. Sign a non-duration contract deal and pay 15k yen deposit only and 1 month rental of 50k yen a month which is include electric, water, gas and internet bills. Opposite the Share House is Aeon Supermarket, basically every evening I'll drop by there to buy fresh food and vege and cook decent meal (cost around 300-400yen) for myself every night. Metro Station just 8 mins walk, convenient as f*ck and felt like heaven for the first time.

But I have that dream/ideal place, where I always watch Japanese movie (where those lonely single guy/lady own a cool small studio house or apartment a little bit further down from the station.)
Everyweek for 2 months, I'll visit a real estate agent and tell them I'm looking for my ideal studio house/apartment and hopefully they can find 1 for me with the budget I mentioned.

On 2nd month, Those famous or well-known real estate agent cannot find the criteria I want and I took another alternative way which is go to district local estate agent (those only accept japanese customers). Give it a try with my almost perfect Japanese conversation and ask them I'm looking for a studio house/apartment, in resident housing area and 15-20mins away from any public train.
They have a few on their list, list down to 5 apartment to see. Drove me around the area and have a look at the house or apartment.

Found the one I like, which is a House Studio (attach beside another apartment but separately), 45k yen a month, 12mins walk or 5 mins cycle to Metro Station or another 20mins walk or 9 mins cycle to different Train company station, 2 blocks away from Edo River and there's a jogging track where you can jog the other opposite way to Arakawa River. Decide to go for that Studio House.

At first the landlord reject my application because they a little bit hesitate when it comes to foreigner. And then I was lucky, very lucky to meet up the landlord at the office where she pick-up some document from the estate agency. The guy who help me apply the application point at me and say I'm the guy who applied her Studio House to rent and her first impression thought I'm Japanese instead of Foreigner (look and physically). Had a small chit-chat with the landlord and the landlord decide to cancel the reject application and let me rent her Studio House to me. smile.gif

I had my first own rent studio house in Japan and cheap one 45k yen a month.
The first month I need to pay is :
First month rental : 45k yen
Deposit (You'll get back 50%-75% once you move out): 30k yen
New Key Installation : 8k yen
Real Estate fees : 15k yen.
No Key Money Fees and Landlord Fees, luck again on my side.

Total is : 98000k yen to get the dream house I want. (back in 2012,  around RM3.6k)

Basic Monthly bills on my side for own place is :
4500yen for Fiber Optics Internet (Yahoo! Hikari)
500 yen - 2000 yen for Electricity.

Every 2 months :
1200yen for Gas
800yen for Water

Total Rent include bills is : 51500yen a month. Equivalent to RM515 or conversion RM1800+

Separate non-house bills is my Softbank + Iphone Bills which cost 6k yen a month. (Unlimited LTE + Calls, most Japanese use phone mail to contact with each other. Rarely SMS)

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And again, do not convert the yen to Ringgit because you earn your salary in Yen.
The right way to see the living expenses is by seeing the equivalent.

RM1 = 100yen.

While in Malaysia you cannot buy lots of stuff for RM1.
But 100yen you can get Onigiri or Bun in a local bakery shop.

I challenge myself to Survive with only 500yen a day for a month (Breakfast & Lunch).
Surprisingly, I can get lots of stuff for 500yen in a day in Tokyo.
Like 90yen of Melon Bun with 100yen Lemon CC for Breakfast. 300yen Bento for Lunch.

But in Kota Kinabalu RM5, small packet of M&M already cost RM3 or 1 Chicken Pao already cost RM4 for breakfast.
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The electricity bills seems very cheap there. And meals as well.

One question is that I see normally a lot of Japanese still use flip phones and not smart phones. So in this modern era, why?
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For me working here is about money and experience.  I prefer working life back home. People are much more open and "nicer' to work with.  And as you mention working as a salaryman, is not fun at all. You cannot really make real friends in the company. Its all about business.

Thought of going back, but difficult to find a job that pays what I am getting now and also the nature of my job is too specialized and not many open position in Malaysia

I always tell my friends, coming to Japan as a tourist is fine......but to stay back and work, you need to think twice!
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What field of work are you specialised in? Also you talk about hiring people so I think you are in a managerial position ?
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so much truth on this....i been working in tokyo for about 5 months and i can't wait to go back to Malaysia once my project end. The salaryman life is no joke here... dry.gif  dry.gif

office culture is abit weird as well. Maybe we can hangout and have fun in izakaya after work but the next day in the office, they behave like a stranger n "cold" towards each other.

YES!! go jap as a tourist is fine, but if for working....for me is abit  puke.gif
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What field of work are you specialised in? Also you talk about hiring people so I think you are in a managerial position ?
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I am leading my company supply chain here. Its not my specialization though. As manager you just manage and lead. smile.gif
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I feel that Japanese companies tend to be very rigid, less transparent, "just follow the process", maintain status quo, compared to American companies.
Is this true even there in Japan?

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I feel that Japanese companies tend to be very rigid, less transparent, "just follow the process", maintain status quo, compared to American companies.
Is this true even there in Japan?
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Mine is MNC who just have a company setup here in Japan. Even our MD is non Japanese. But the mentality is the same as you mention. I am pushing my team to change, be more vocal and think out of the box. Most companies are trying to change their culture cause they realized they need to in order to survive in globalization.
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my company in Malaysia were just bought / take over by a Japanese public listed company. They send 2 experience Japanese worked with here in Malaysia. What do you expect how they run / implementation that will apply to my company ?
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Hi there. I just want to ask is it possible for American companies in Japan to hire someone with very very basic knowledge of Japanese probably N5 to work there? In accounts line
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I think its possible? My case is an oversea assignment to the US MNC based in Japan. I am in the accounts line too. Pass my N5 but my kanji is horrible. Kinda forgotten most of it that were in N5 exam.
Now just waiting for my work permit to be completed before I hop off to Yokohama tongue.gif
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I think its possible? My case is an oversea assignment to the US MNC based in Japan. I am in the accounts line too. Pass my N5 but my kanji is horrible. Kinda forgotten most of it that were in N5 exam.
Now just waiting for my work permit to be completed before I hop off to Yokohama  tongue.gif
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Haha normally accounts line won't get overseas transfers or assignment. You requested or they assigned you?
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Haha normally accounts line won't get overseas transfers or assignment. You requested or they assigned you?
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There was internal posting so I applied for it. Went for an interview & gotten the assignment. My advantage over the other candidates was because I know japanese & have relevant experience smile.gif
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There was internal posting so I applied for it. Went for an interview & gotten the assignment. My advantage over the other candidates was because I know japanese & have relevant experience smile.gif
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How is life so far in japan? Based in tokyo? What about the work culture? Same senpai kouhai thing? Dont go back home till late?
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How is life so far in japan? Based in tokyo? What about the work culture? Same senpai kouhai thing? Dont go back home till late?
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Not yet based in Yokohama yet. Still awaiting my working permit to be done smile.gif
Will definitely share my experience once I am there!


Now I am just worried whether my unlocked Samsung S7 can use the prepaid sim card in Japan.
Was just surfing online & came upon a post stating that S7 doesnt work which made me go 'WTF'. : http://www.japan-guide.com/forum/quereadisplay.html?0+149703
Anyone here tried using their S7 in Japan? hmm.gif
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Not yet based in Yokohama yet. Still awaiting my working permit to be done smile.gif
Will definitely share my experience once I am there!
Now I am just worried whether my unlocked Samsung S7 can use the prepaid sim card in Japan.
Was just surfing online & came upon a post stating that S7 doesnt work which made me go 'WTF'. : http://www.japan-guide.com/forum/quereadisplay.html?0+149703
Anyone here tried using their S7 in Japan?  hmm.gif
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You worried too much. I think that is a one off. Normally if you buy those cheap SIM card, the stores can only do so much because the phone is yours.
So far my wife S7 is working fine. Or why not ask you company to give you a phone? Tell them its for emergency purposes, since you dont know much Japanese and contracts in Japan normally takes two years.
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You worried too much. I think that is a one off. Normally if you buy those cheap SIM card, the stores can only do so much because the phone is yours.
So far my wife S7 is working fine. Or why not ask you company to give you a phone? Tell them its for emergency purposes, since you dont know much Japanese and contracts in Japan normally takes two years.
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Haha, I shall take your advise to heart, Sacwoc. I think I am worrying too much ahead since it's my first oversea assignment blush.gif blush.gif
My company kiam on mobile phone lah, already asked them. Lol
But since yours is working fine, I shouldn't worry much, hehe.
Thanks for the advice!!
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hey everyone~
Finally settled down in Yokohama in Mar 2017. My Samsung S7 is working fine with Illjimio prepard sim card data (thank goodness)!
A bit of a culture shock here where things are a bit quiet here, compared to the msian kepoh environment tongue.gif
Although its a US company, the culture here are still leaning towards Japanese culture; super detail, very obvious manager-subordinate level thinking.....
Hmm, I want more freedom in my job....haha....
Everyone having the same culture in the worklife?
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hey everyone~
Finally settled down in Yokohama in Mar 2017. My Samsung S7 is working fine with Illjimio prepard sim card data (thank goodness)!
A bit of a culture shock here where things are a bit quiet here, compared to the msian kepoh environment tongue.gif
Although its a US company, the culture here are still leaning towards Japanese culture; super detail, very obvious manager-subordinate level thinking.....
Hmm, I want more freedom in my job....haha....
Everyone having the same culture in the worklife?
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Hahaha.....I understand what you mean. My ex-company (non Japanese) are the same. Very quiet and you can hear a pin drop unless someone is on the phone. As for management style I was quite flexible and let my staff have all the freedom. Initially they are not comfortable and still refer back to me for help. But after a while they got use to it and actually enjoy the freedom. So basically it still depends on your boss.
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I heard a lot of big company in Japan start to hire foreigner with only English as language... it is true?
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I heard a lot of big company in Japan start to hire foreigner with only English as language... it is true?
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I know of a few people who cannot speak Japanese at all got hired. In fact its not only big companies. I know a Malaysian got hired to a small Japanese manufacturing company who plans to expand overseas. He was hired from Malaysia and cant speak Japanese. Not sure how he got hired. Companies now are trying to be globalized but I am not sure if by just hiring foreigners will actually change their working culture over night.
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I know of a few people who cannot speak Japanese at all got hired. In fact its not only big companies. I know a Malaysian got hired to a small Japanese manufacturing company who plans to expand overseas. He was hired from Malaysia and cant speak Japanese. Not sure how he got hired. Companies now are trying to be globalized but I am not sure if by just hiring foreigners will actually change their working culture over night.
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It's not about working culture for me, it's more to a chance to work in Japan. rclxms.gif It's good to hear this news anyway.
May I know your friend is from which industries? thumbsup.gif
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sounds like the internship program
http://www.internshipprogram.jp/english/foreign/

but they got bad press about it, not sure if true or not or what the current situation is
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Its so interesting to read about your experience. I'm also aiming to go there for some work experience, but I prefer to wait till I've got at least an N2 (just started my classes not long ago, taking the N5 end of the year).

Generally, based on your experience there - how safe is it for a lady to work and stay in Tokyo on her own?
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It's not about working culture for me, it's more to a chance to work in Japan. rclxms.gif It's good to hear this news anyway.
May I know your friend is from which industries? thumbsup.gif
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He is in engineering but not sure which field. Know a few other people who cant speak Japanese who are in various field, like accounting, HR (head hunting), IT. Rakuten have quite a number of IT people who are non Japanese as well.
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Its so interesting to read about your experience. I'm also aiming to go there for some work experience, but I prefer to wait till I've got at least an N2 (just started my classes not long ago, taking the N5 end of the year).

Generally, based on your experience  there - how safe is it for a lady to work and stay in Tokyo on her own?
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If you take away the natural disaster like earthquake, it is very safe. I know a Malaysian lady, mid 20s, who came here and staying in a shared house. As she is in Finance, she works late sometimes and no issue going back alone using public transport late at night.
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If you take away the natural disaster like earthquake, it is very safe. I know a Malaysian lady, mid 20s, who came here and staying in a shared house. As she is in Finance, she works late sometimes and no issue going back alone using public transport late at night.
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Agree on earthquake. A lot of people comment that its not safe due to this. An ex-colleague studied in a Japanese University in Tokyo, and one day earthquake happened. He was forced to jump down from the building's window and broke his arm. He recovered, but could no longer play guitar.

As for crime, it is no stranger where ever we stay (regardless of country). Just that I noticed most of the residential area tend to be very quiet from 9pm onwards and it gets a little intimidating walking alone back. I stayed in AirBnB throughout my visits to both Tokyo and Nagoya and thus observed this. Probably depends on area as well.
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Agree on earthquake. A lot of people comment that its not safe due to this. An ex-colleague studied in a Japanese University in Tokyo, and one day earthquake happened. He was forced to jump down from the building's window and broke his arm. He recovered, but could no longer play guitar.

As for crime, it is no stranger where ever we stay (regardless of country). Just that I noticed most of the residential area tend to be very quiet from 9pm onwards and it gets a little intimidating walking alone back. I stayed in AirBnB throughout my visits to both Tokyo and Nagoya and thus observed this. Probably depends on area as well.
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Generally there is no place that is 100% safe. You still have to take some precautions but compare to Malaysia its still safe. If you live in a housing area definitely it will be very quiet. My wife sometimes work late and she have no issue taking the 15 mins walk from the station.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Apr 19 2017, 08:51 AM)
Generally there is no place that is 100% safe. You still have to take some precautions but compare to Malaysia its still safe. If you live in a housing area definitely it will be very quiet. My wife sometimes work late and she have no issue taking the 15 mins walk from the station.
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Yes, my point was that there's no guarantee any place is absolutely safe in this world, but at least you'll feel a little better residing in a country/ area with low crime rate. Anyway, thanks for your sharing!
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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Apr 18 2017, 06:21 PM)
Its so interesting to read about your experience. I'm also aiming to go there for some work experience, but I prefer to wait till I've got at least an N2 (just started my classes not long ago, taking the N5 end of the year).

Generally, based on your experience  there - how safe is it for a lady to work and stay in Tokyo on her own?
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Very Safe, but if you're like 1000 years rare beauty kind of look. Just beware of Stalker, Stalker in Japan are quite scary. Scary than robber or gangster you see in KL.

Just don't think too much on the JLPT, unless you want to work for the government.
My Filipino friend recently got a Job as Immigrant Officer and she's not really fluent in Japanese.
The Government are desperate for more people now because of Low Population among Young Japanese.

As long you're capable to speak like How Japanese speak everyday (Ordering Food, Asking Simple Stuff, Normal Conversation and Basic Polite Language Form).
You will be fine...

When I move to Tokyo, My Japanese is chapalang. But after working with All japanese and observe how the way they talk, am able to converse normally 2 months later.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Apr 18 2017, 09:04 AM)
Hahaha.....I understand what you mean. My ex-company (non Japanese) are the same. Very quiet and you can hear a pin drop unless someone is on the phone. As for management style I was quite flexible and let my staff have all the freedom. Initially they are not comfortable and still refer back to me for help. But after a while they got use to it and actually enjoy the freedom. So basically it still depends on your boss.
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I believe it really depends on your boss loh....my boss has been in the company for 10 years++ so it figures that he is still practicing the old style....haha
let me slowly try to influence him brows.gif freedom onegaishimasu!
& one thing very funny that i observe. In msia, we usually leave the front seats empty in meeting for 'vips' who come in late. Here, they really separate the sitting style by management level...walaueh...I didnt know that & sat at that area...haha, i can feel the stares from people rolleyes.gif
I guess this is japanese style too?
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Apr 21 2017, 10:45 PM)
Very Safe, but if you're like 1000 years rare beauty kind of look. Just beware of Stalker, Stalker in Japan are quite scary. Scary than robber or gangster you see in KL.

Just don't think too much on the JLPT, unless you want to work for the government.
My Filipino friend recently got a Job as Immigrant Officer and she's not really fluent in Japanese.
The Government are desperate for more people now because of Low Population among Young Japanese.

As long you're capable to speak like How Japanese speak everyday (Ordering Food, Asking Simple Stuff, Normal Conversation and Basic Polite Language Form).
You will be fine...

When I move to Tokyo, My Japanese is chapalang. But after working with All japanese and observe how the way they talk, am able to converse normally 2 months later.
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Stalker sweat.gif reminds me of some of the movie I've seen.

Hmmmm I think I feel insecure without a proper level of the JLPT. I'm afraid I couldn't cope with work, and without an edge - they wouldn't take me in. I mean, what would be a good reason for them to want to recruit someone if they have no technical knowledge of something? (Eg. I'm no engineer/ designer/ programmer etc).

Are you still in Tokyo?
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re payment is fine working there?
i heard many working people do not have good life living in japan due to work stress, is it true?
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Japan have the highest suicide rate due to work related. Recent news is about a young girl who graduated from a top university killing herself due to over work in one of the biggest company in the world. So yes there is stress but it still depends how you handle it. Like anywhere else, not all jobs are like that. You just need to know how or where to find one.
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re payment is fine working there?
i heard many working people do not have good life living in japan due to work stress, is it true?
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And I recently stumble upon this, if it interests you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_company_(Japanese_term)
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QUOTE(Leo Teng @ Apr 25 2017, 04:48 PM)
re payment is fine working there?
i heard many working people do not have good life living in japan due to work stress, is it true?
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Corporate work in Japan is different than what you will expect compare to Western Country and Malaysia (maybe South East Asia as whole).
If you work with big company, you will be the company's slave.

I think I mentioned it before, take advantage of the 'gaijin privilege'.
Maybe because I didn't study in Japan, straight away found an agency to represent me. So I don't feel any stress at all. But very productive work, everyday do the things I like and got paid on-time.
I know a few who studied and graduate in Japan. Worked there and stress out a lot because they follow the rules 100%.

What I mean by "Gaijin Privilege' is instead of go fully Japanese.
Be yourself, as long you respect them and they respect you. Always remind them you're not Japanese. And also try to bring your A game once in a while.

Naturally, Japanese aren't decision maker and they need us 'Malaysian' to decide a.s.a.p to ensure there's no decision delay and everyone can go home.
And also if you're not the supervisor or manager, you can pressure them to decide rationally without thinking too much.
Hard to explain, I think once you're working with them you know what's the weaknesses.

I believe why the Fukushima Power Plant explode in the first place because the authority can't decide whether to switch off the power plant manually or not when the Earthquake and Tsunami came.
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And I recently stumble upon this, if it interests you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_company_(Japanese_term)
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If possible always avoid Black Company.
Sometimes what they promise in the contract you don't really get what you want.

Just beware...
And don't be too desperate, ask many question as you can regarding about the job.
Make sure you know what you position is and when they ask you be firm with your answer.

Don't say.. "Etto~~" or "Daijoubu to omoimasu." if they say something doesn't related with the work you want to do.
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If possible always avoid Black Company.
Sometimes what they promise in the contract you don't really get what you want.

Just beware...
And don't be too desperate, ask many question as you can regarding about the job.
Make sure you know what you position is and when they ask you be firm with your answer.

Don't say.. "Etto~~" or "Daijoubu to omoimasu." if they say something doesn't related with the work you want to do.
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Indeed, would avoid the ones labelled as "black company". We've only got 1 life, gotta take care of it. But what do you mean by the last part?
"Don't say.. "Etto~~" or "Daijoubu to omoimasu." if they say something doesn't related with the work you want to do."
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Indeed, would avoid the ones labelled as "black company". We've only got 1 life, gotta take care of it. But what do you mean by the last part?
"Don't say.. "Etto~~" or "Daijoubu to omoimasu." if they say something doesn't related with the work you want to do."
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When you say those word while thinking to give an answer, it give a hint to the interviewer you are unsure with the job. They know they can take advantage if they hire you and ask you to do extra work. I mean more than volunteer extra work.

Just be firm lah.
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Yo, I will be in Tokyo this March for 3 weeks.
Meeting with a few Creative Agencies there, convincing them to help me apply Artist Visa. haha

I will be staying in Hibarigaoka area. Let's have meet-up yumcha!
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hey everyone~
Finally settled down in Yokohama in Mar 2017. My Samsung S7 is working fine with Illjimio prepard sim card data (thank goodness)!
A bit of a culture shock here where things are a bit quiet here, compared to the msian kepoh environment tongue.gif
Although its a US company, the culture here are still leaning towards Japanese culture; super detail, very obvious manager-subordinate level thinking.....
Hmm, I want more freedom in my job....haha....
Everyone having the same culture in the worklife?
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Wow, that's a very nice place. Been there for a business trip to JGC last year and I really love that place.
Food wise not that expensive, still cheaper than Singapore.
The place is very clean and quiet at night.
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Just left Japan and having spend a few years there, not much you can do to reduce income tax. Normally if you have a house, or a child you can have some deduction. Buying insurance or also proof that currently you are supporting your parents is also tax deductible. How to show proof you have to ask around....
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ May 15 2017, 04:33 PM)
Just left Japan and having spend a few years there, not much you can do to reduce income tax. Normally if you have a house, or a child you can have some deduction. Buying insurance or also proof that currently you are supporting your parents is also tax deductible. How to show proof you have to ask around....
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Aww left already?
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Aww left already?
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Amazing bro - with limited exposure to native language you could survive there being able to grab a job quickly. you must be good in interpersonal skills to impress them personally =)

may i know what is your study during university?
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ May 15 2017, 04:33 PM)
Just left Japan and having spend a few years there, not much you can do to reduce income tax. Normally if you have a house, or a child you can have some deduction. Buying insurance or also proof that currently you are supporting your parents is also tax deductible. How to show proof you have to ask around....
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I got a friend just back to Msia for good (after 2 years) complaining that she can't save much at there due to the costs of living - working as analyst in Experian.
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I got a friend just back to Msia for good (after 2 years) complaining that she can't save much at there due to the costs of living - working as analyst in Experian.
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Really depends on your lifestyle. I have family and able to survive and save some $$ as well. I am sure you friend can withdraw the EPF(about two months of last drawn salary) and also the retirement scheme that the company bought for her/him.
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Really depends on your lifestyle. I have  family and able to survive and save some $$ as well. I am sure you friend can withdraw the EPF(about two months of last drawn salary) and also the retirement scheme that the company bought for her/him.
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It is around 80k rm per annum for senior executives level and she sustains a simple lifestyle over there.
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It is around 80k rm per annum for senior executives level and she sustains a simple lifestyle over there.
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That is low for a senior executive. Basically that is the salary of a fresh grad.
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That is low for a senior executive. Basically that is the salary of a fresh grad.
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That is the fact maybe because she's not entirely expatriate but just quit Experian malaysia and join the regional office at there.

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That is the fact maybe because she's not entirely expatriate but just quit Experian malaysia and join the regional office at there.
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Thats still low. I hired a Malaysian from KL who cant speak Japanese and I pay more than that, which also include some housing allowance.
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Very low. Thats fresh grad, senior would get double of that easily. How old is she?
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Very low. Thats fresh grad, senior would get double of that easily. How old is she?
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She's 32, and got higher after transferred to Aussie now =P
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Thats still low. I hired a Malaysian from KL who cant speak Japanese and I pay more than that, which also include some housing allowance.
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Boss sacwoc, I should recommend her to submit resume to you in future. She is graduate with 1st class honour and have experience working in US MNC.
Which field / qualification you will usually require? tongue.gif

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Boss sacwoc, I should recommend her to submit resume to you in future. She is graduate with 1st class honour and have experience working in US MNC.
Which field / qualification you will usually require?  tongue.gif
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Hahaha.....dont send to me...I left Japan already a few months back. But with her qualification, I am sure she can look for other jobs in Japan. That salary is really low
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I really really really want to work and stay at Japan. Currently working as System Engineer (IT & Instrument) in Oil & Gas Industry. Always a fan of Japan culture & product. Even sometimes considering to work as a factory worker at Japan. Haha...

I'm totally cannot read & speak Nihon but can understand a bit what their speak. Visit to Japan once before for holiday
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I really really really want to work and stay at Japan. Currently working as System Engineer (IT & Instrument) in Oil & Gas Industry. Always a fan of Japan culture & product. Even sometimes considering to work as a factory worker at Japan. Haha...

I'm totally cannot read & speak Nihon but can understand a bit what their speak. Visit to Japan once before for holiday
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Working and traveling are too totally different things. After a while all you can think of is work and with the added pressure of not knowing Japanese. Of course thats not to say you cannot survive or enjoy yourself.
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Been wanting to do that since few years ago..got put off with own experience working with japanese comp locally.
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QUOTE(Noobnity @ Jul 4 2017, 06:46 PM)
I really really really want to work and stay at Japan. Currently working as System Engineer (IT & Instrument) in Oil & Gas Industry. Always a fan of Japan culture & product. Even sometimes considering to work as a factory worker at Japan. Haha...

I'm totally cannot read & speak Nihon but can understand a bit what their speak. Visit to Japan once before for holiday
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Japan is an easy place to find a job if you can speak Japanese, some would even hire if you are outside of Japan.
You can try Rakuten if you want a job without knowing Japanese, other than that just study Japanese hardcore in one year, then I can refer you to a recruiter knows company that will hire oversea after you can speak business Japanese.


P/S: Easy in IT in general, no idea in O&G specifically.
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As a degree student studying game programming who is currently planning to work in japan, anyone whos in the same boat as me or have any advice that I could consider?

Working in Japan has been my goal for awhile now and I have read alot of articles about the harsh work life in Japan, but honestly I am willing to go out of my comfort zone and give Japan a shot.
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As a degree student studying game programming who is currently planning to work in japan, anyone whos in the same boat as me or have any advice that I could consider?

Working in Japan has been my goal for awhile now and I have read alot of articles about the harsh work life in Japan, but honestly I am willing to go out of my comfort zone and give Japan a shot.
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While searching, pls learn some Japanese. If you dont have work experience in game programming, its pretty difficult to get a job there. My ex office was next to a game company and I see ppl going to work like they just woke up from bed. Also know a French guy who work in Konami and he can speak passable Japanese. But he really has a very good portfolio before he join.
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While searching, pls learn some Japanese. If you dont have work experience in game programming, its pretty difficult to get a job there. My ex office was next to a game company and I see ppl going to work like they just woke up from bed. Also know a French guy who work in Konami and he can speak passable Japanese. But he really has a very good portfolio before he join.
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I immagine the cheaper route to japan would probably be studying japanese during and after my degree. Maybe work in Malaysia for 2 years and hopefully get a job in Japan. But lets be real here, that's really optimistic. Or the expensive alternative would be to attend a japanese language school either locally or in Japan but I would be loosing work experience.

Self studying japanese locally would be tough I immagine especially for someone like me who don't have a chinese education background. But I do enjoy the japanese language.

I would love to hear more experiences about Malaysians seeking for jobs in Japan.

Thanks for your insights ☺
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QUOTE(Kenolion @ Aug 10 2017, 03:57 PM)
I immagine the cheaper route to japan would probably be studying japanese during and after my degree. Maybe work in Malaysia for 2 years and hopefully get a job in Japan. But lets be real here, that's really optimistic. Or the expensive alternative would be to attend a japanese language school either locally or in Japan but I would be loosing work experience.

Self studying japanese locally would be tough I immagine especially for someone like me who don't have a chinese education background. But I do enjoy the japanese language.

I would love to hear more experiences about Malaysians seeking for jobs in Japan.

Thanks for your insights ☺
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There is one more alternative. Find a job in Malaysia and hope that they will transfer you to Japan as an expat.
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anyone worked with Rakuten before ? How was it in office culture, stress, pay grade?
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anyone worked with Rakuten before ? How was it in office culture, stress, pay grade?
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I have a friend who work there as a product manager. She seems very happy and her colleague seems quire diverse with people from around the world. They just moved into their own building that is quite nice and I think the cafeteria is free or cheap.
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I have a friend who work there as a product manager. She seems very happy and her colleague seems quire diverse with people from around the world. They just moved into their own building that is quite nice and I think the cafeteria is free or cheap.
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your friend working in Japan ?
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Hey guys, I will be heading to Tokyo next month for an opening photo exhibition which I'm part of it.

Will update more soon on the opening date.

Those in Tokyo, feel free to come during the opening day.

More post later..
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4th years student in Japanese university and soon to be fresh graduate. I got formal offer from construction company in Japan.

After 2-3 years of working at company headquarter in Tokyo, I heard I will be send to international department in SEA. (Either Malaysia (Johor Bahru) branch or Singapore branch) Survey for desired assignment location will be taken next February.

So which one is more easy to live in? Annual salary is roughly 300K RM. (Local regional salary (MYR or SGD)+ salary same amount with salary paid to salaryman in Japan(JPY) at the same times monthly)

I want fast internet and bigger property to live in.

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eh, just wondering, how's software engineer in japan? Is it true that ppl work from morning until evening time?
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eh, just wondering, how's software engineer in japan? Is it true that ppl work from morning until evening time?
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That is the general impression you will get. But in reality it depend on your team or company culture.
There are companies who have more healthy working lifestyle, try to get as much information on this during interview, or check glassdoor or similar sites to see how is the team/company culture is like.
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just read through 17 pages of this and was just thinking to post this real quick. what about taxes? like, what's the rate?
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just read through 17 pages of this and was just thinking to post this real quick. what about taxes? like, what's the rate?
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http://japantaxcalculator.com/
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Hi, I will start working in Japan at the end of this year.

For some foreigner especially Chinese and Korean, they can display their name in Kanji on their Zairyu (Residence) card. So, is Malaysian Chinese can do this too? Any Malaysian try this before?

If it is possible, what documents that I need to prove my name and should I write my Chinese name on the application form on the certificate of eligibility too?

Thank you very much.
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Hi, I will start working in Japan at the end of this year.

For some foreigner especially Chinese and Korean, they can display their name in Kanji on their Zairyu (Residence) card. So, is Malaysian Chinese can do this too? Any Malaysian try this before?

If it is possible, what documents that I need to prove my name and should I write my Chinese name on the application form on the certificate of eligibility too?

Thank you very much.
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Your resident card must correspond to your passport/IC if I remember correctly. So you won't have your Mandarin name on it, and it is not like all Mandarin words can be pronounced in Japanese. It's sort of hard since Birth Certificate, Passport and IC does not have Chinese name available for registration as least for my generation.
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Hey, need some advice here. I have been to Japan previously and fall in love with the country. I've been studying about Japan work culture and on how to work in Japan but always meet a dead end. Im on my last year in Bachelor of International Business and looking for any opportunities.
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Hey, need some advice here. I have been to Japan previously and fall in love with the country. I've been studying about Japan work culture and on how to work in Japan but always meet a dead end. Im on my last year in Bachelor of International Business and looking for any opportunities.
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Go to Gaijinpot (search on google) and look job vacancy there.
There's lots of open position in Tokyo that are are to fill-in but some industry are on demanding now and very competitive between the locals and foreigner.

My recommendation is to take Japanese course, learn the basic conversation and also business conversation just incase the some company require their employee able to speak Japanese with their colleague.
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QUOTE(Dinz96 @ Sep 3 2018, 03:02 PM)
Hey, need some advice here. I have been to Japan previously and fall in love with the country. I've been studying about Japan work culture and on how to work in Japan but always meet a dead end. Im on my last year in Bachelor of International Business and looking for any opportunities.
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Being a fresh graduate and not able to speak Japanese it is really difficult. Furthermore you are in Malaysia and that will lower your chances. Try finding some local companies that have business in Japan and hope that they send you over. I brought a staff over from Malaysia a few years back who cannot speak Japanese. At least she has 3 years of working experience, but getting her a visa is really a challenge.
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Go to Gaijinpot (search on google) and look job vacancy there.
There's lots of open position in Tokyo that are are to fill-in but some industry are on demanding now and very competitive between the locals and foreigner.

My recommendation is to take Japanese course, learn the basic conversation and also business conversation just incase the some company require their employee able to speak Japanese with their colleague.
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is degree diploma cert important for working in japan?
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is degree diploma cert important for working in japan?
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Yes it is. Most jobs you need it. Its easier to get a working visa if you have a degree. If not you need to proof that you have tons of working experience.
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Yes it is. Most jobs you need it. Its easier to get a working visa if you have a degree. If not you need to proof that you have tons of working experience.
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ahhh, this is a sad case...i no have any cert sad.gif
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ahhh, this is a sad case...i no have any cert sad.gif
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Next year they have a new type of visa for certain fields that do not need any degree. Mostly hard labour job though. You can check it out.
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Next year they have a new type of visa for certain fields that do not need any degree. Mostly hard labour job though. You can check it out.
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hi all,

not sure if this thread is still alive or not, but just here to ask for some opinions.

I am keen to pursue my career in Japan ever since 15 years back (when i was still studying).
But due to financial and lack of network reasons, the intention was dropped off when i was in the 20s.
But i continue to study japanese. Currently with N2 under my belt, passed in Dec 2017.

My background is in project management and am working as a project manager.
I tried to search for job in several japan job websites, they require someone with JLPT N2 at least.
But i do not have the confidence, even with N2, i find that i still quite lacking in term of conversational and writing skill
(PM work really writes and communicates alot with different people)

Just wondering, is there any recommendation in term of project management job which require English for now?
I am planning to take up japanese in Japan if i am working there, i believe i can get the hand of it in few months with my basics and constant usage of it

sidenote, in terms of work culture...well, i was in too much office politics here in Malaysia and OT without additional compensation.
So i think i will be fine in a japanese working culture
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hi all,

not sure if this thread is still alive or not, but just here to ask for some opinions.

I am keen to pursue my career in Japan ever since 15 years back (when i was still studying).
But due to financial and lack of network reasons, the intention was dropped off when i was in the 20s.
But i continue to study japanese. Currently with N2 under my belt, passed in Dec 2017.

My background is in project management and am working as a project manager.
I tried to search for job in several japan job websites, they require someone with JLPT N2 at least.
But i do not have the confidence, even with N2, i find that i still quite lacking in term of conversational and writing skill
(PM work really writes and communicates alot with different people)

Just wondering, is there any recommendation in term of project management job which require English for now?
I am planning to take up japanese in Japan if i am working there, i believe i can get the hand of it in few months with my basics and constant usage of it

sidenote, in terms of work culture...well, i was in too much office politics here in Malaysia and OT without additional compensation.
So i think i will be fine in a japanese working culture
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PM as in computer or engineering? If its computer, try Rakuten which might have a few English speaking jobs.
Normally if you meet client, you need to know Business Japanese which can be different from JLPT, which is very much for academic. But I am sure you can pick it up easily. Since you are in Malaysia, it is much more diffcult to find an opening in Japan unless you have a niche skills or some contact there.


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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Dec 3 2018, 06:01 PM)
PM as in computer or engineering? If its computer, try Rakuten which might have a few English speaking jobs.
Normally if you meet client, you need to know Business Japanese which can be different from JLPT, which is very much for academic. But I am sure you can pick it up easily. Since you are in Malaysia, it is much more diffcult to find an opening in Japan unless you have a niche skills or some contact there.
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PM as in banking sector, managing IT transformation project.
yea, JLPT is very exam based, which isn't beneficial for business use. But as u said, with constant use of japanese and i plan to join 日本語専門学校, i think a few months time some be no problem

As per ur last comment, yea, it is hard as i do not have any network in japan. Maybe i will try rakuten. Thank you
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PM as in banking sector, managing IT transformation project.
yea, JLPT is very exam based, which isn't beneficial for business use. But as u said, with constant use of japanese and i plan to join 日本語専門学校, i think a few months time some be no problem

As per ur last comment, yea, it is hard as i do not have any network in japan. Maybe i will try rakuten. Thank you
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Jobs you mention do really need Japanese unless you only serve foreigners. These jobs are available but most people I know were transfer from thier own country. Example a banker from Bank of China who only serves Chinese customer so Japanese is not needed. Alternative for you is to find a job in Malaysia that have the possibility to transfer you to Japan.

As for 日本語専門学校, what is your plan? If you were to work in Japan, I suggest to get a private tutor rather than joining school as it gives you more flexibility to change your time. Also you can take a risk of studying full time Japanese and at the same time look for a job.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Dec 4 2018, 09:08 AM)
Jobs you mention do really need Japanese unless you only serve foreigners. These jobs are available but most people I know were transfer from thier own country. Example a banker from Bank of China who only serves Chinese customer so Japanese is not needed. Alternative for you is to find a job in Malaysia that have the possibility to transfer you to Japan.

As for 日本語専門学校, what is your plan? If you were to work in Japan, I suggest to get a private tutor rather than joining school as it gives you more flexibility to change your time. Also you can take a risk of studying full time Japanese and at the same time look for a job.
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well, a pm can be flexible, doesn't really have to be in banking, most of the time, pm is in IT based sector. I know that a PM job is to deal and communicate a lot of people in the team and clients, which makes me less desirable for Japanese to hire me if my command of japanese is not business level.

For the bold part, highly unlikely after much searching as future career advancement will still stuck in Malaysia rather than transferred over to japan.

Regarding 日本語専門学校, they do not offer night class or weekend class in japan? If i get a job in japan, i am thinking to attend class after work or on weekends though.
I have another route suggested by my japanese sensei at the japanese institute i am studying now. But her recommendation is that i need to study full time japanese for half a year in japan, then i will 100% get a job after that, and assigned to one of the companies collaborating with the institute.
I really wanted to go, but couldn't resolve my financial commitment here (house and car loan) without a job for half a year. i need to secure a job first to pay for my commitments sadly.

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well, a pm can be flexible, doesn't really have to be in banking, most of the time, pm is in IT based sector. I know that a PM job is to deal and communicate a lot of people in the team and clients, which makes me less desirable for Japanese to hire me if my command of japanese is not business level.

For the bold part, highly unlikely after much searching as future career advancement will still stuck in Malaysia rather than transferred over to japan.

Regarding 日本語専門学校, they do not offer night class or weekend class in japan? If i get a job in japan, i am thinking to attend class after work or on weekends though.
I have another route suggested by my japanese sensei at the japanese institute i am studying now. But her recommendation is that i need to study full time japanese for half a year in japan, then i will 100% get a job after that, and assigned to one of the companies collaborating with the institute.
I really wanted to go, but couldn't resolve my financial commitment here (house and car loan) without a job for half a year. i need to secure a job first to pay for my commitments sadly.
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Not sure about the market now but while I was working in Tokyo about 2 years back, I met a few Malaysian who were transfer over from Malaysia. Depends very much on luck. I was transfer over to replace the department head who is about to retire. Right place at the right time.

As is night and weekend school but if you are a PM I am sure your working time is not fix. A private tutor gives you more flexibility in taking the lessons. This comes from experience. smile.gif But then this is just thinking too far ahead and will be least of your worries.

Being in Japan physically really helps. If its really your dream, then you need to take the risk. There are a few head hunter that cater to foreigners which you can find easily in the web which is in English. But then, they will still prefer you to be there physically.
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Not sure about the market now but while I was working in Tokyo about 2 years back, I met a few Malaysian who were transfer over from Malaysia. Depends very much on luck. I was transfer over to replace the department head who is about to retire. Right place at the right time.

As is night and weekend school but if you are a PM I am sure your working time is not fix. A private tutor gives you more flexibility in taking the lessons. This comes from experience. smile.gif But then this is just thinking too far ahead and will be least of your worries.

Being in Japan physically really helps. If its really your dream, then you need to take the risk. There are a few head hunter that cater to foreigners which you can find easily in the web which is in English. But then, they will still prefer you to be there physically.
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ok, then i may opt for private tutor if i am able to work in japan.

For the last paragraph, it is hard for me, i wish i can throw away all my commitments here but too many parties affected, so i am pretty much tied down financially. Oh well, looks like i have to go with the conventional way to search on job sites and with plenty of luck. laugh.gif

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ok, then i may opt for private tutor if i am able to work in japan.

For the last paragraph, it is hard for me, i wish i can throw away all my commitments here but too many parties affected, so i am pretty much tied down financially. Oh well, looks like i have to go with the conventional way to search on job sites and with plenty of luck. laugh.gif
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Frankly speaking, after I started to work, I am too lazy to study. Since company pay for it, my session is just about checking emails, and work related questions without any syllabus.

Moving to a new country is not an easy thing. If you do get a job, you have to think how soon can you move over. Having moved to 2 countries, its really tiring mentally and physically.
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Frankly speaking, after I started to work, I am too lazy to study. Since company pay for it, my session is just about checking emails, and work related questions without any syllabus.

Moving to a new country is not an easy thing. If you do get a job, you have to think how soon can you move over.  Having moved to 2 countries, its really tiring mentally and physically.
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whether i am going to have any change of mind on studying when i reach there, well, there is no way to know unless i know about my workload etc.

for the 2nd point, after serving 3 months at current company and get the visa ready in japan, i am able to move immediately. Tiring or not, well, that's secondary, since i do not have a family of my own

Of course, anything mentioned above is hard to be proven unless i get a job offer first

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whether i am going to have any change of mind on studying when i reach there, well, there is no way to know unless i know about my workload etc.

for the 2nd point, after serving 3 months at current company and get the visa ready in japan, i am able to move immediately. Tiring or not, well, that's secondary, since i do not have a family of my own

Of course, anything mentioned above is hard to be proven unless i get a job offer first
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Going alone is so much easier, especially if you are moving just with a suitcase. Try emailing some recruting firm like enworld. They have a few consultant that is non Japanese and see what are your chances. Good luck!
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Going alone is so much easier, especially if you are moving just with a suitcase. Try emailing some recruting firm like enworld. They have a few consultant that is non Japanese and see what are your chances. Good luck!
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enworld, thanks
any other site for recommendations?
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enworld, thanks
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I think there are a few more sites that you can find via the internet. Reason I recommend enworld is because I work with them before. You can also try linkedin.
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I think there are a few more sites that you can find via the internet. Reason I recommend enworld is because I work with them before. You can also try linkedin.
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oh, i see, thanks for the recommendation, will submit my resume to them
LinkedIn has limited selection, and most of the time receive contact from Malaysia firm though, so it wasn't helpful for my case
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Is this Thread dead? I hope it's not! It has been awhile since the first post back in 2016, after i read thru all the way down till the latest post. Minnasan dou desuka? minna genki? How are u guys doing now? @Flanegan @sacwoc @Innovation @Riolis @honesty tan. I'm sorry i dont know how to tag u guys properly, I hope u guys are doing awesome!, i'm looking forward to hear from u guys again. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Is this Thread dead? I hope it's not! It has been awhile since the first post back in 2016, after i read thru all the way down till the latest post. Minnasan dou desuka? minna genki? How are u guys doing now? @Flanegan @sacwoc @Innovation @Riolis @honesty tan. I'm sorry i dont know how to tag u guys properly, I hope u guys are doing awesome!, i'm looking forward to hear from u guys again. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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What do you want to hear?
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I wanted to know what u guys are doing now? Having a great life?

Btw, i really enjoyed reading this thread.
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Have left Japan. Before that life has its up and down. In Tokyo there are so many things to see or do during the weekend, unlike in HK....
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Owh so u (sacwoc) are in Hong Kong now? What about the other people? i mean what is your current job?
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i wonder is it hard to get a job in japan?
qualification just until high school
i do have an admin experience but i wouldnt mind to work in factory jobs
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Hi @orangegurl, i think it is hard if you dont have skills that are outstanding, like maybe software engineering, and etc, it's easier if u have degree, about speaking japanese, i think it depends on company, and honestly, i just started worked here for almost 1 week already, and i found out that every fcking thing is in Japanese, but of course there r sometimes got abit of english like the kiosk and etc, everything related to government stuff is all in Japanese (service, fill up document, etc). I got a degree in Electrical engineering, but i taught myself software engineering stuff, now i work as Software Engineer here in Sapporo. You can ask me anything related to work and etc on my email: herodotus94@gmail.com
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i wonder is it hard to get a job in japan?
qualification just until high school
i do have an admin experience but i wouldnt mind to work in factory jobs
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working in Japan need to know Japanese right? And if foreigner like us working in Japan, do we need to follow their working culture? Like OT = hardwoking, if i leave on time will be judge as lazy ?
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Do you need to know Japanese in order to work in Japan? it also depends on the company, and also what kind of job, for example if sales kind of job of course you need good japanese, as for my case we just focus on coding and make great products, we dont need to talk to client and stuff (keigo), BUT!, we still need to able to speak basic Japanese in order to communicate with the Japanese in the company especially the HR staffs, besides that, u also need to be to communicate with the officer here in order to deal with the government and other stuff like post office, or create bank account and etc. You MUST at least know the basic, at least able to have a conversation in japanese, once you have that, the officer will try their best to help you out. Unless your company provide you a human translator or do everything for u.

Must follow their working culture? It really depends on the company you are working at, different company has different culture, but the still the general Japan culture is still there, but as for my case, all the Software Engineers in my company are foreigners, and the management staffs (all japanese) they understand and want us to work our best by letting us work with flexible hour and we are able to work remotely. Of course some japanese here also they dont work OT, like once their work is done, they just go back, of course they would say Osaki ni shitsurei shimasu biggrin.gif , and inside your Malaysian heart would whisper aiyah beh hiao kin lah, just go bak and get a good rest lah dont worry. Nowadays japanese people are changing i guess? My company people are different from what i had in mind before i work there.

Anyway, i'm working on the story of how i change from fresh graduate as E & E engineer to become Self-taught software engineer and got employed in Japan. It's going to be on Medium. Stay tune~
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Do you need to know Japanese in order to work in Japan? it also depends on the company, and also what kind of job, for example if sales kind of job of course you need good japanese, as for my case we just focus on coding and make great products, we dont need to talk to client and stuff (keigo), BUT!, we still need to able to speak basic Japanese in order to communicate with the Japanese in the company especially the HR staffs, besides that, u also need to be to communicate with the officer here in order to deal with the government and other stuff like post office, or create bank account and etc. You MUST at least know the basic, at least able to have a conversation in japanese, once you have that, the officer will try their best to help you out. Unless your company provide you a human translator or do everything for u.

Must follow their working culture? It really depends on the company you are working at, different company has different culture, but the still the general Japan culture is still there, but as for my case, all the Software Engineers in my company are foreigners, and the management staffs (all japanese) they understand and want us to work our best by letting us work with flexible hour and we are able to work remotely. Of course some japanese here also they dont work OT, like once their work is done, they just go back, of course they would say Osaki ni shitsurei shimasu biggrin.gif , and inside your Malaysian heart would whisper aiyah beh hiao kin lah, just go bak and get a good rest lah dont worry. Nowadays japanese people are changing i guess? My company people are different from what i had in mind before i work there.

Anyway, i'm working on the story of how i change from fresh graduate as E & E engineer to become Self-taught software engineer and got employed in Japan. It's going to be on Medium. Stay tune~
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how you get the job here? what's your motivation to work in jp? why not stay in MY?
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QUOTE(moon004 @ Jun 2 2019, 09:53 PM)
Do you need to know Japanese in order to work in Japan? it also depends on the company, and also what kind of job, for example if sales kind of job of course you need good japanese, as for my case we just focus on coding and make great products, we dont need to talk to client and stuff (keigo), BUT!, we still need to able to speak basic Japanese in order to communicate with the Japanese in the company especially the HR staffs, besides that, u also need to be to communicate with the officer here in order to deal with the government and other stuff like post office, or create bank account and etc. You MUST at least know the basic, at least able to have a conversation in japanese, once you have that, the officer will try their best to help you out. Unless your company provide you a human translator or do everything for u.

Must follow their working culture? It really depends on the company you are working at, different company has different culture, but the still the general Japan culture is still there, but as for my case, all the Software Engineers in my company are foreigners, and the management staffs (all japanese) they understand and want us to work our best by letting us work with flexible hour and we are able to work remotely. Of course some japanese here also they dont work OT, like once their work is done, they just go back, of course they would say Osaki ni shitsurei shimasu biggrin.gif , and inside your Malaysian heart would whisper aiyah beh hiao kin lah, just go bak and get a good rest lah dont worry. Nowadays japanese people are changing i guess? My company people are different from what i had in mind before i work there.

Anyway, i'm working on the story of how i change from fresh graduate as E & E engineer to become Self-taught software engineer and got employed in Japan. It's going to be on Medium. Stay tune~
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Hi your post caught my eye, I'm just wondering what are my chances to work in Japan if currently I have 1.7 years of experience? I'm working as front-end dev, focusing on React.
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Do you need to know Japanese in order to work in Japan? it also depends on the company, and also what kind of job, for example if sales kind of job of course you need good japanese, as for my case we just focus on coding and make great products, we dont need to talk to client and stuff (keigo), BUT!, we still need to able to speak basic Japanese in order to communicate with the Japanese in the company especially the HR staffs, besides that, u also need to be to communicate with the officer here in order to deal with the government and other stuff like post office, or create bank account and etc. You MUST at least know the basic, at least able to have a conversation in japanese, once you have that, the officer will try their best to help you out. Unless your company provide you a human translator or do everything for u.

Must follow their working culture? It really depends on the company you are working at, different company has different culture, but the still the general Japan culture is still there, but as for my case, all the Software Engineers in my company are foreigners, and the management staffs (all japanese) they understand and want us to work our best by letting us work with flexible hour and we are able to work remotely. Of course some japanese here also they dont work OT, like once their work is done, they just go back, of course they would say Osaki ni shitsurei shimasu biggrin.gif , and inside your Malaysian heart would whisper aiyah beh hiao kin lah, just go bak and get a good rest lah dont worry. Nowadays japanese people are changing i guess? My company people are different from what i had in mind before i work there.

Anyway, i'm working on the story of how i change from fresh graduate as E & E engineer to become Self-taught software engineer and got employed in Japan. It's going to be on Medium. Stay tune~
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VERy true in what you say. Cultures do depends much on the company though I can say most are still very traditional. Games/Software engineers I think are more open now. WHen I was working in Tokyo, the company beside mine is a game developer. I see quite alot of them dress so casually in shorts and tshirt. Also most company pays for OT if you are below managerial level and transport cost from your home to work are cover as well.

If you are in Tokyo, now a lot of kuyakusho documents have a few language. They have translator as weill to help you especially Chinese as they are the most gaijin in Tokyo. Banks will be a bit difficult though, especially Japan Post. Most branches still have problem conversing in English.
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QUOTE(moon004 @ Apr 18 2019, 03:15 AM)
Is this Thread dead? I hope it's not! It has been awhile since the first post back in 2016, after i read thru all the way down till the latest post. Minnasan dou desuka? minna genki? How are u guys doing now? @Flanegan @sacwoc @Innovation @Riolis @honesty tan. I'm sorry i dont know how to tag u guys properly, I hope u guys are doing awesome!, i'm looking forward to hear from u guys again. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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I'm doing good.. My 2nd stint here in Japan.

Currently based in Awaji Island in Kansai Region as part of fellowship program before moving to Tokyo.
Very excited for this stint this time.

I will try to visit this thread and forum as much as I can whether anyone wants to know hows the situation here.

Anyhow, here's some video I've uploaded on my Youtube channel so far.

Leaving Malaysia to Japan


Living in Japan's Countryside


Short trip to Tokyo


To see more... feel free to visit My Youtube Channel, I try to upload often during my free time.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbnUcbSmDDF44l6rjL-fxew

Hope everyone is doing well y'all.
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QUOTE(moon004 @ May 19 2019, 05:08 PM)
Hi @orangegurl, i think it is hard if you dont have skills that are outstanding, like maybe software engineering, and etc, it's easier if u have degree, about speaking japanese, i think it depends on company, and honestly, i just started worked here for almost 1 week already, and i found out that every fcking thing is in Japanese, but of course there r sometimes got abit of english like the kiosk and etc, everything related to government stuff is all in Japanese (service, fill up document, etc). I got a degree in Electrical engineering, but i taught myself software engineering stuff, now i work as Software Engineer here in Sapporo. You can ask me anything related to work and etc on my email: herodotus94@gmail.com
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Software Enginee? Kind of interested. Got any lubang? biggrin.gif
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Hi. Just curious.if say I am earning around 18k, how much should I expect in Japan
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Hi. Just curious.if say I am earning around 18k, how much should I expect in Japan
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Question is too generic. Dont even know which field you are in. The skills you have might be niche in Malaysia but not in Japan or vice versa. Just google and look for salary guide.
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Need advise. Just graduated from business school. I'm looking for a career that can make me work in Japan as Gaijin. Right now I'm stuck with a well-known company which offer good salary but the it is not what I wish for.

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Need advise. Just graduated from business school. I'm looking for a career that can make me work in Japan as Gaijin. Right now I'm stuck with a well-known company which offer good salary but the it is not what I wish for.
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Lots of start-up company in Tokyo.
Try to contact them via LinkedIn. The new generation is very different compared to the old Japanese way.

Lots of my friend, non-Japanese regularly create content what they are passionate at on Linkedin, sharing their opinion in a very professional manner.
Some got hired by Japan Hyatt, some got hired by Zozo and also Rakuten.

So far, they are happy with their job and life/work balance.
You cannot have the Gaijin card most of the time when you work under a big company.

Best of luck!
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Does anyone know that with Malaysian driving license, can we just swap to Japanese Driving license by paying some top up fee?

Or do we need to take the driving license test from zero and pay 300,000 yen for it?

*I am currently working in Japan full time.

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Hi your post caught my eye, I'm just wondering what are my chances to work in Japan if currently I have 1.7 years of experience? I'm working as front-end dev, focusing on React.
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I'm not sure about front-end engineer demand here in Japan, but u will have higher chance if u are a full-stack engineer, but i believe u will have a good chance here in Japan if u give it a try. Ganbatte Kudasai~ But of course it is waaayy better if u can speak japanese, because it shows that you are interested in Japanese culture and etc. They really like those people who loves japanese culture.

And By the way guys, my journey as a self-taught developer story is ready! You can read it on HERE on Medium.
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Lots of start-up company in Tokyo.
Try to contact them via LinkedIn. The new generation is very different compared to the old Japanese way.

Lots of my friend, non-Japanese regularly create content what they are passionate at on Linkedin, sharing their opinion in a very professional manner.
Some got hired by Japan Hyatt, some got hired by Zozo and also Rakuten.

So far, they are happy with their job and life/work balance.
You cannot have the Gaijin card most of the time when you work under a big company.

Best of luck!
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Hi there thanks for this. I think I'll take the first step to learn their language first and possibly take JLPT to test it out. This is gonna take lot of money and time. I'll do my best to achieve this.

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Went to Japan previously. Fell in love with them. I've been to a lot of countries before but Japan still get me going. Gotta admit, my interest in Anime also started from there. Knowing Japan has long working hours still doesn't stop me wanting to live/work there. Eventhough, I'm seeking a career that I wouldn't call it a job. I hope someday I can find such thing in life.

There is something in Japan that piqued my interests. I'll go there to find it out someday.
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QUOTE(moon004 @ Jul 19 2019, 02:06 PM)
I'm not sure about front-end engineer demand here in Japan, but u will have higher chance if u are a full-stack engineer, but i believe u will have a good chance here in Japan if u give it a try. Ganbatte Kudasai~ But of course it is waaayy better if u can speak japanese, because it shows that you are interested in Japanese culture and etc. They really like those people who loves japanese culture.

And By the way guys, my journey as a self-taught developer story is ready! You can read it on HERE on Medium.
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Hi org kampung. Just read your writing there and I could say it is very inspiring. Wish I have the courage and talent like you. But who knows I might get the chance to work abroad too in the future. biggrin.gif
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Hi org kampung. Just read your writing there and I could say it is very inspiring. Wish I have the courage and talent like you. But who knows I might get the chance to work abroad too in the future.  biggrin.gif
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You know, i don't think i have talent in the first place, if you live together with me, u'll find out i'm actually quite dumb, i mean, i have been thru many hardships, i always make mistakes and feel so dumb every time making it, and sometimes i repeat the same mistakes, it feels like i am not born for doing anything awesome (i mean awesome is subjective), plus i always wish i was born in First world country so that i can have better life (yeah in the past i always thought life is great overseas), but little did i know being born in this family and being born in Malaysia is one of the best lottery that i have won. I think the most important 'talent' everyone should have is DONT BE LAZY, if you are born without any serious handicap, i think you can achieve your dreams if u work hard enough.

The reason why i kept going is because i feel like i have a purpose in life. So i hope u could find one (it doesnt have to be super awesome), and life would be adventurous, fun and meaningful ahead.

There is this short paragraph i found on Youtube comment for this song called I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For by U2. And i want to share it.

People spend their lives trying to look for happiness with no success and it is most likely this will happen to you if you try to look for happiness. You will spend a miserable journey trying to look for something that is not there. Happiness is not something that you look for because happiness comes from within. Happiness is you. stop looking and live in the now. Experience the moment. get away from your computer, stop comparing yourself to others, be happy. happiness is living confronting things with fear but with the courage to face them, to do things that you have never done before. fail, get back up again, live with uncertainty, live unpredictably, don't comfort yourself with living comfortably. Happiness is for the ones who live in the struggle, happiness is not something you can achieve. Happiness is something you live.

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Does anyone know that with Malaysian driving license, can we just swap to Japanese Driving license by paying some top up fee?

Or do we need to take the driving license test from zero and pay 300,000 yen for it?

*I am currently working in Japan full time.
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You cannot just convert like what I did in HK. You would need to take the exams again. As far as I know, the 300,000yen is the full course that you pay for the driving school. I think you can do it yourself which will be a more time consuming. Thats why I gave up getting a driving license.
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QUOTE(benny838 @ Aug 13 2019, 08:05 PM)
Is there any Malaysian community in Tokyo?
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Yes there is a big community in Tokyo and they do meet up once a while and they communicate via a close FB group. Sometimes they organized some gathering in the Malaysian restaurant in Shibuya.

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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Aug 27 2019, 11:27 AM)
Yes there is a big community in Tokyo and they do meet up once a while and they communicate via a close FB group. Sometimes they organized some gathering in the Malaysian restaurant in Shibuya.
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Any link that I can refer or join?
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post Sep 3 2019, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(benny838 @ Sep 1 2019, 10:53 AM)
Any link that I can refer or join?
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Search for JAGONG Malaysia in FB. Its a close group and just request to join.
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QUOTE(sacwoc @ Sep 3 2019, 10:45 AM)
Search for JAGONG Malaysia in FB. Its a close group and just request to join.
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Thanks ya.
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QUOTE(SkyHermit @ Jul 19 2019, 04:47 PM)
Does anyone know that with Malaysian driving license, can we just swap to Japanese Driving license by paying some top up fee?

Or do we need to take the driving license test from zero and pay 300,000 yen for it?

*I am currently working in Japan full time.
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If you already have license in Malaysia. You don't need to pay 300k yen.

Just take the 10 question test and driving test.

Convert your license and official paper from JAF - 700yen
Exam around 5000yen
driving test around 2500yen once.
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post Sep 7 2019, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Sep 7 2019, 12:19 AM)
If you already have license in Malaysia. You don't need to pay 300k yen.

Just take the 10 question test and driving test.

Convert your license and official paper from JAF - 700yen
Exam around 5000yen
driving test around 2500yen once.
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Have you done it this way?

I remember I saw a list of countries that collaborate with Japan and there are like 20+ countries which are mostly in Europe and these countries do not have to pay the 300k yen to convert, and Malaysia is not one of it.

Edited :
https://www.japanistry.com/converting-a-for...rivers-license/

Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Korea, Luxembourg, Monaco, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, The Netherlands, U.K.

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post Sep 17 2019, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(SkyHermit @ Sep 11 2019, 07:00 PM)
Have you done it this way?

I remember I saw a list of countries that collaborate  with Japan and there are like 20+ countries which are mostly in Europe and these countries do not have to pay the 300k yen to convert, and Malaysia is not one of it.

Edited :
https://www.japanistry.com/converting-a-for...rivers-license/

Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Korea, Luxembourg, Monaco, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, The Netherlands, U.K.
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This means that you still need to sit for exams which @Flanegan did mention. 300K course is actually not about converting your license. Its about taking a full driving course. Normally this is what the Japanese do. They can actually also pay the few thousand yen to take the test if they want but most just take the full course offer by a driving school.
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Hi all.

I'd like to actually try to live in Japan as well as work there. Tried to apply for a job at web such as Gaijinpot, Daijob but nothing came up. I'm currently working with Malaysian Satelite System but it felt void. My passion with Japan since last 4 years still with me eversince I visited Tokyo. I studied their culture, even though they got long working hours I actually don't mind.

I just had my convocation on my bachelor and currently seeking any cable to pursue this dream.
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QUOTE(Flanegan @ Sep 7 2019, 12:19 AM)
If you already have license in Malaysia. You don't need to pay 300k yen.

Just take the 10 question test and driving test.

Convert your license and official paper from JAF - 700yen
Exam around 5000yen
driving test around 2500yen once.
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