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psychoactive
post Mar 27 2016, 05:17 PM, updated 10y ago

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Forumer you are complaining against: unknown yet, 3rd party involved, PANG ZHEN YANG (011 3865 1775, this is most likely a temporary number to con people, look below) mad.gif

Bank Account Number:
MAYBANK 506249104410 PANG ZHEN YANG
PUBLIC BANK 4535352936 PANG ZHEN YANG


Item being sold/bought: MSI Radeon HD7950 3GB GDDR5 Graphic Card

Original thread link: A respond to my phone number via whatsapp in my thread: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3868611&hl=

Date of transaction: 23 March 2016 14:50:07PM of amount RM550 to 506249104410 MAYBANK PANG ZHEN YANG

Details of the complaint :
Day 1 (25/3) - this person contacted me thru whatsapp attempted to sell his MSI HD7950 to me. he was playing a noisy guy that trying to chat casually with me, that day i was in good mood so i played along. Negotiated with the price and terms and upon agreement between us, He accidentally gave me his public bank account no instead of CIMB and the transaction didn't go thru. Then, he gave me another maybank number and i have paid a total amount of RM550.00 into the MAYBANK account (506249104410 PANG ZHEN YANG).

Told me he's from Sibu and sending to Melaka needs 3-4days, i was feeling fishy about that.. was thinking that maybe he needed more working days to get it sent.

Day 2 (26/3) - Checked the tracking number and it has no records. I asked him in regards of that if it's in case the tracking number is incorrect, wanna make sure the item is being processed. No reply from him.

Day 3 (27/3) - Afterwards at midnight, I noticed his profile pic in whatsapp has gone out and i couldn't see his last seen. Most probably he blocked me. i was feeling uneasy about this, sent a message to ask him take picture of the consignment note, only single tick. Tried to call in the number and it couldn't reach. Probably dumped the number? I was going to sleep and wait until next day afternoon to see any reply from him. No reply as of now. 6:54pm

Screenshot of WhatsApps conversation
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I have gone through some online investigation here and there.
First, i googled his details slowly 1 by 1, finally the account number hit me up with a result that linked to a facebook page. Apparently its a business page... meanwhile the bank accounts are on the post. oh well, got the number and address as well.
From there, it seem they even included the link to their personal profile in the business page profile. sweat.gif Link here
I noticed that he's a head of a family and married. Lives in Cheroh Raub, Pahang, not Sibu as "he" stated. Meanwhile, found another number. hmm.gif his FB profile

Details:
Pang Zhen Yang
27620 Cheroh, Pahang, Malaysia
MAYBANK 506249104410 PANG ZHEN YANG
PUBLIC BANK 4535352936 PANG ZHEN YANG
011-3865 1775 (fake/temp number)
018-313 0158 (real number)
017-768 7860 (real number)


To anyone know or traded with "him" before, please let me know and tag "his" lyn name here. (011 3865 1775)


UPDATE:
3:53pm - I have tried to contact the number 018 313 0158, talked to a guy that he claimed he is the real Pang Zhen Yang and he did not know about any case of selling the GPU HD7950. He also told me that his personal number is 017 768 7860 and he did not recognize the number 011 3865 1775. I assume this is either he's playing it or it is someone pretended as him to fake the transaction between him and me. It might be someone buying his service and faked my transaction as to him.

He told me that he will check on this and the transaction during midnight and trying to resolve this with me. I'll update here again.


UPDATE2:
28/3 - Midnight he told me that it is not under his realization that the guy faked my transaction to him, he reloaded alipay to the conman as well. He sent me the screenshot between him and the conman's conversation to buy alipay. I requested a refund from him as the fund was forwarded to his account and he had not doubt the validity of the transaction even tho i written "radeon hd7950, psychoactive" on the transaction reference. He said he wont be paying any responsibility on this. Ended up, i did not get any cent from him. I will personally report this a scam case to PDRM provided what he has told me regarding there's an another person.


Current leads:
The person might be staying in Johor, her personal information has something to do with the number 88083. Might have the name "kai" on his name.
Used the number 011 3865 1775. The number is not longer online. (Might be still active)
Not too familiar with speaking/typing English, a lot of error happened in his language during our conversation.
Uses Alipay. Most likely to reload game credits/virtual currency.
SUSPECTED leads:
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I'm offering bounty for this person search. Let me know if you know this person in particular then show me the evidences.

This post has been edited by psychoactive: Apr 2 2016, 06:18 PM
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post Mar 28 2016, 11:10 AM

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Sorry for the lost RM550 but this "real" Pang Zhen Yang should make police report together with you to prove him not working together with the scammer.

But common sense when selling something & received payment with different description should raised a flag already.

Few years ago I already encounter same situation when selling something.

Received payment with different description, so I dig around to find the actual person who transfer the money.

It took me few days to reach that person & all resolved in good matter. The scammer, as always in-reach-able.
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post Mar 28 2016, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(acexii @ Mar 28 2016, 11:10 AM)
Sorry for the lost RM550 but this "real" Pang Zhen Yang should make police report together with you to prove him not working together with the scammer.

But common sense when selling something & received payment with different description should raised a flag already.

Few years ago I already encounter same situation when selling something.

Received payment with different description, so I dig around to find the actual person who transfer the money.

It took me few days to reach that person & all resolved in good matter. The scammer, as always in-reach-able.
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I agree, i think partially its his fault to acknowledge the fraud payment from the guy. doh.gif
I have asked. He doesn't want to help me in reporting the case anyway.

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post Mar 28 2016, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(psychoactive @ Mar 27 2016, 05:17 PM)
Forumer you are complaining against: unknown yet, his name is PANG ZHEN YANG (011 3865 1775, this is most likely a temporary number to con people, look below)  mad.gif

Bank Account Number:
MAYBANK 506249104410 PANG ZHEN YANG
PUBLIC BANK 4535352936 PANG ZHEN YANG


Item being sold/bought: MSI Radeon HD7950 3GB GDDR5 Graphic Card

Original thread link: A respond to my phone number via whatsapp in my thread: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3868611&hl=

Date of transaction: 23 March 2016 14:50:07PM of amount RM550 to 506249104410 MAYBANK PANG ZHEN YANG

Details of the complaint :
Day 1 (25/3) - this person contacted me thru whatsapp attempted to sell his MSI HD7950 to me. he was playing a noisy guy that trying to chat casually with me, that day i was in good mood so i played along. Negotiated with the price and terms and upon agreement between us, He accidentally gave me his public bank account no instead of CIMB and the transaction didn't go thru. Then, he gave me another maybank number and i have paid a total amount of RM550.00 into the MAYBANK account (506249104410 PANG ZHEN YANG).

Told me he's from Sibu and sending to Melaka needs 3-4days, i was feeling fishy about that.. was thinking that maybe he needed more working days to get it sent.

Day 2 (26/3) - Checked the tracking number and it has no records. I asked him in regards of that if it's in case the tracking number is incorrect, wanna make sure the item is being processed. No reply from him.

Day 3 (27/3) - Afterwards at midnight, I noticed his profile pic in whatsapp has gone out and i couldn't see his last seen. Most probably he blocked me. i was feeling uneasy about this, sent a message to ask him take picture of the consignment note, only single tick. Tried to call in the number and it couldn't reach. Probably dumped the number? I was going to sleep and wait until next day afternoon to see any reply from him. No reply as of now. 6:54pm

Screenshot of WhatsApps conversation
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image
I have gone through some online investigation here and there.
First, i googled his details slowly 1 by 1, finally the account number hit me up with a result that linked to a facebook page. Apparently its a business page... meanwhile the bank accounts are on the post. oh well, got the number and address as well. Link of business page
user posted image

From there, it seem they even included the link to their personal profile in the business page profile. Oh wow, +2 points for me.  sweat.gif  Link here
user posted image
I noticed that he's a head of a family and married.  Lives in Cheroh Raub, Pahang, not Sibu as "he" stated. Meanwhile, found another number.  hmm.gif  his FB profile
user posted image
user posted image
Details:
Pang Zhen Yang
27620 Cheroh, Pahang, Malaysia
MAYBANK 506249104410 PANG ZHEN YANG
PUBLIC BANK 4535352936 PANG ZHEN YANG
011-3865 1775 (fake/temp number)
018-313 0158 (real number)
017-768 7860 (real number)
Wife name: Lum Xue Li


To anyone know or traded with "him" before, please let me know and tag "his" lyn name here. (011 3865 1775)
To Pang Zhen Yang (in case you see this), I will print all the evidence and pictures out then report this to PDRM within this week if you never respond/reply to my dispute or whatsapp me. It's either you make sure that the GPU is being send to me within the day you see this or full refund to me.


UPDATE:
3:53pm - I have tried to contact the number 018 313 0158, talked to a guy that he claimed he is the real Pang Zhen Yang and he did not know about any case of selling the GPU HD7950. He also told me that his personal number is 017 768 7860 and he did not recognize the number 011 3865 1775. I assume this is either he's playing it or it is someone pretended as him to fake the transaction between him and me. It might be someone buying his service and faked my transaction as to him.

He told me that he will check on this and the transaction during midnight and trying to resolve this with me. I'll update here again.


UPDATE2:
28/3 - Midnight he told me that it is not under his realization that the guy faked my transaction to him, he reloaded alipay to the conman as well. He sent me the screenshot between him and the conman's conversation to buy alipay. I requested a refund from him as the fund was forwarded to his account and he had not doubt the validity of the transaction even tho i written "radeon hd7950, psychoactive" on the transaction reference. He said he wont be paying any responsibility on this. Ended up, i did not get any cent from him. I will personally report this a scam case to PDRM provided what he has told me regarding there's an another person.
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WTF WTF WTF......... My rm350 kena goreng la.....

his LYN id is kai.88083

i transfered rm350 to his account last friday.. bought gtx660i from him..
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post Mar 28 2016, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(ganabathi @ Mar 28 2016, 07:05 PM)
WTF WTF WTF......... My rm350 kena goreng la.....

his LYN id is kai.88083

i transfered rm350 to his account last friday.. bought gtx660i from him..
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Any mod mind to investigate on this? I suspect its the same person since the guy pang zhen yang fowarded me the guy with that nick, kai.88083.
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This post has been edited by psychoactive: Mar 28 2016, 07:20 PM
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post Apr 2 2016, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(psychoactive @ Mar 28 2016, 07:18 PM)
Any mod mind to investigate on this? I suspect its the same person since the guy pang zhen yang fowarded me the guy with that nick, kai.88083.
Apis_LuaLua
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Hi Bro, that scammer make use of Pang Zhen Yang IC and account, i got same issue with use and contact Pang to verify just now. you should remove Pang's personal info or unfair to him otherwise.

make this as lesson, i will not deal with any non-verified supplier anymore.
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post Apr 2 2016, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(psychoactive @ Mar 28 2016, 07:18 PM)
Any mod mind to investigate on this? I suspect its the same person since the guy pang zhen yang fowarded me the guy with that nick, kai.88083.
Apis_LuaLua
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大家好,我是pang zhen yang,也是受害者。
1.我并不知道kai 是谁。我也在此声明,我并没做任何买卖电脑配件。
2.我是专做中国支付宝充值。我并不知道他是如何向你们交易。
3.也谢谢这受害者帮我澄清一部分的事件,希望大家搞清楚,我不是那个骗子。

若有其他受害者也遭到这问题出现,在此先向你们抱歉。我只能提供有关骗子的一些交易资料。
kai.88083@gmail.com wechat:Cwah
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post Apr 2 2016, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(freodol pang @ Apr 2 2016, 06:29 PM)
大家好,我是pang zhen yang,也是受害者。
1.我并不知道kai 是谁。我也在此声明,我并没做任何买卖电脑配件。
2.我是专做中国支付宝充值。我并不知道他是如何向你们交易。
3.也谢谢这受害者帮我澄清一部分的事件,希望大家搞清楚,我不是那个骗子。

若有其他受害者也遭到这问题出现,在此先向你们抱歉。我只能提供有关骗子的一些交易资料。
kai.88083@gmail.com  wechat:Cwah
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english plz
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post Apr 2 2016, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(freodol pang @ Apr 2 2016, 06:29 PM)
大家好,我是pang zhen yang,也是受害者。
1.我并不知道kai 是谁。我也在此声明,我并没做任何买卖电脑配件。
2.我是专做中国支付宝充值。我并不知道他是如何向你们交易。
3.也谢谢这受害者帮我澄清一部分的事件,希望大家搞清楚,我不是那个骗子。

若有其他受害者也遭到这问题出现,在此先向你们抱歉。我只能提供有关骗子的一些交易资料。
kai.88083@gmail.com  wechat:Cwah
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english plz
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post Apr 2 2016, 09:45 PM

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Wow suddenly a dupe pang appear...

Honestly, if there has been more than 1 person got scammed using the same MO, to the same seller, you guys should report it to the police. One transaction, you missed the description, fine and acceptable. If 2 transactions, that is a red flag already. Might be the scammer and the seller working together. Hence the seller reluctant to assist to report to the police. If he is really not involved, wouldn't it be more logical that he assist with the police investigation. This will help to clear his name. Instead, he is taking an opposite stance toward this. To me, I will consider this too fishy.
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post Apr 2 2016, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(even_steven @ Apr 2 2016, 09:45 PM)
Wow suddenly a dupe pang appear...

Honestly, if there has been more than 1 person got scammed using the same MO, to the same seller, you guys should report it to the police. One transaction, you missed the description, fine and acceptable. If 2 transactions, that is a red flag already. Might be the scammer and the seller working together. Hence the seller reluctant to assist to report to the police. If he is really not involved, wouldn't it be more logical that he assist with the police investigation. This will help to clear his name. Instead, he is taking an opposite stance toward this. To me, I will consider this too fishy.
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Thanks, thats why im saying that i feel unreasonable for the reason he's not paying any of us for any sort of compensation.
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post Apr 3 2016, 12:54 AM

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the Pang and the scammer r same person, i think so
did u make a report?
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post Apr 3 2016, 03:20 AM

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common trick, use 3rd person innocent guy usuallly money exchanger or top up seller as receiver of stolen fund, then real scammer run away scott free.
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post Apr 3 2016, 06:26 AM

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QUOTE(even_steven @ Apr 2 2016, 09:45 PM)
Wow suddenly a dupe pang appear...

Honestly, if there has been more than 1 person got scammed using the same MO, to the same seller, you guys should report it to the police. One transaction, you missed the description, fine and acceptable. If 2 transactions, that is a red flag already. Might be the scammer and the seller working together. Hence the seller reluctant to assist to report to the police. If he is really not involved, wouldn't it be more logical that he assist with the police investigation. This will help to clear his name. Instead, he is taking an opposite stance toward this. To me, I will consider this too fishy.
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Fully support this statement. Just report to the police that this guy pang did it. Tell him about it and see if him still dont want to co operate or not
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Apr 2 2016, 09:45 PM)
Wow suddenly a dupe pang appear...

Honestly, if there has been more than 1 person got scammed using the same MO, to the same seller, you guys should report it to the police. One transaction, you missed the description, fine and acceptable. If 2 transactions, that is a red flag already. Might be the scammer and the seller working together. Hence the seller reluctant to assist to report to the police. If he is really not involved, wouldn't it be more logical that he assist with the police investigation. This will help to clear his name. Instead, he is taking an opposite stance toward this. To me, I will consider this too fishy.
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+1, agree. There working together. you not the only one who transfer. The account holder stupid or the scammer.
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post Apr 3 2016, 11:38 AM

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Hey dude, same case, the thing is, he made deals with seller who can credit money in some sort of like Alipay(debit card some sort of function). Then by using our transaction details, he forward to the seller and told, "hey I credit this amount to you, please credit that amount to my Alipay account cuz I sold my stuff and asked the buyer to pay directly to you".

That is why we would not be able to check on the details. His details especially. My investigation outcome can only find that the name related to YU KAI WANG. Still undergoing. If anyone can crack this, we all would appreciate the assistance.

So long short story, to any SELLER OUT THERE WHO DOES CHINESE CREDIT THINGY. Please tell your buyer/client to pay directly to your account, and not by third party.
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post Apr 3 2016, 06:04 PM

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fyi, cases like these have been there for years, and many scammer alert pages of malaysia in fb have shared such cases

1. Conman places order in sites that provide Renminbi top up in Alipay (all these service providers usually have automated system in sites, like http://go-f2u.com/)
2. Try to fish victim into transferring to bank account of the top up seller the amount of the order
3. Conman sends the receipt provided by the victim to the top up service provider.
4. Conman receives his top up. Top up service provider receives their money.
5. Victim receives nothing.

In the end,

*there is nothing you know about the conman except his mobile phone.

*you know about the bank account holder name, but it is usually innocent third party sellers that USE their OWN NAME in bank account instead of COMPANY NAME under current account.

No one wants to have their name on scammer list, so these people who genuinely provide service have their rights to disclaim any responsibility on the crime conceded by the conman.

again, such is the risk to trade in the internet.

usually i will only transfer online for amateur seller when they can prove that they are the account holder themselves. For instance, if their name is ABC, i will transfer only if the name of the account holder is ABC. If they give CDE, i will ask who is this CDE, then will proceed to check if CDE is in any scammer list. In addition, I will ask seller to provide necessary details of the CDE that will remove all the risks. Otherwise, just ciao and buy from others.
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bro same i just got scam.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3912870
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QUOTE(psychoactive @ Mar 27 2016, 05:17 PM)
Forumer you are complaining against: unknown yet, 3rd party involved, PANG ZHEN YANG (011 3865 1775, this is most likely a temporary number to con people, look below)  mad.gif

Bank Account Number:
MAYBANK 506249104410 PANG ZHEN YANG
PUBLIC BANK 4535352936 PANG ZHEN YANG


Item being sold/bought: MSI Radeon HD7950 3GB GDDR5 Graphic Card

Original thread link: A respond to my phone number via whatsapp in my thread: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3868611&hl=

Date of transaction: 23 March 2016 14:50:07PM of amount RM550 to 506249104410 MAYBANK PANG ZHEN YANG

Details of the complaint :
Day 1 (25/3) - this person contacted me thru whatsapp attempted to sell his MSI HD7950 to me. he was playing a noisy guy that trying to chat casually with me, that day i was in good mood so i played along. Negotiated with the price and terms and upon agreement between us, He accidentally gave me his public bank account no instead of CIMB and the transaction didn't go thru. Then, he gave me another maybank number and i have paid a total amount of RM550.00 into the MAYBANK account (506249104410 PANG ZHEN YANG).

Told me he's from Sibu and sending to Melaka needs 3-4days, i was feeling fishy about that.. was thinking that maybe he needed more working days to get it sent.

Day 2 (26/3) - Checked the tracking number and it has no records. I asked him in regards of that if it's in case the tracking number is incorrect, wanna make sure the item is being processed. No reply from him.

Day 3 (27/3) - Afterwards at midnight, I noticed his profile pic in whatsapp has gone out and i couldn't see his last seen. Most probably he blocked me. i was feeling uneasy about this, sent a message to ask him take picture of the consignment note, only single tick. Tried to call in the number and it couldn't reach. Probably dumped the number? I was going to sleep and wait until next day afternoon to see any reply from him. No reply as of now. 6:54pm

Screenshot of WhatsApps conversation
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image
I have gone through some online investigation here and there.
First, i googled his details slowly 1 by 1, finally the account number hit me up with a result that linked to a facebook page. Apparently its a business page... meanwhile the bank accounts are on the post. oh well, got the number and address as well.
From there, it seem they even included the link to their personal profile in the business page profile. sweat.gif  Link here
I noticed that he's a head of a family and married.  Lives in Cheroh Raub, Pahang, not Sibu as "he" stated. Meanwhile, found another number.  hmm.gif  his FB profile

Details:
Pang Zhen Yang
27620 Cheroh, Pahang, Malaysia
MAYBANK 506249104410 PANG ZHEN YANG
PUBLIC BANK 4535352936 PANG ZHEN YANG
011-3865 1775 (fake/temp number)
018-313 0158 (real number)
017-768 7860 (real number)


To anyone know or traded with "him" before, please let me know and tag "his" lyn name here. (011 3865 1775)


UPDATE:
3:53pm - I have tried to contact the number 018 313 0158, talked to a guy that he claimed he is the real Pang Zhen Yang and he did not know about any case of selling the GPU HD7950. He also told me that his personal number is 017 768 7860 and he did not recognize the number 011 3865 1775. I assume this is either he's playing it or it is someone pretended as him to fake the transaction between him and me. It might be someone buying his service and faked my transaction as to him.

He told me that he will check on this and the transaction during midnight and trying to resolve this with me. I'll update here again.


UPDATE2:
28/3 - Midnight he told me that it is not under his realization that the guy faked my transaction to him, he reloaded alipay to the conman as well. He sent me the screenshot between him and the conman's conversation to buy alipay. I requested a refund from him as the fund was forwarded to his account and he had not doubt the validity of the transaction even tho i written "radeon hd7950, psychoactive" on the transaction reference. He said he wont be paying any responsibility on this. Ended up, i did not get any cent from him. I will personally report this a scam case to PDRM provided what he has told me regarding there's an another person.


Current leads:
The person might be staying in Johor, her personal information has something to do with the number 88083. Might have the name "kai" on his name.
Used the number 011 3865 1775. The number is not longer online. (Might be still active)
Not too familiar with speaking/typing English, a lot of error happened in his language during our conversation.
Uses Alipay. Most likely to reload game credits/virtual currency.
SUSPECTED leads:

I'm offering bounty for this person search. Let me know if you know this person in particular then show me the evidences.
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Hello everyone, I am a pang zhen yang, also victims.
1. I do not know who kai Is
I also declare that I did not do any trading of computer accessories.
2. I specialize in Chinese Alipay. I do not know how he is to you transaction.
3. It also victims Thank you to help me to clarify a part of the event, we hope to find out, I did not cheat.

If there are other victims also suffer this problem, in this Xianxiang you sorry. I can provide some information about the transaction liar.
kai.88083@gmail.com wechat: Cwah

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QUOTE(acexii @ Mar 28 2016, 11:10 AM)
Sorry for the lost RM550 but this "real" Pang Zhen Yang should make police report together with you to prove him not working together with the scammer.

But common sense when selling something & received payment with different description should raised a flag already.

Few years ago I already encounter same situation when selling something.

Received payment with different description, so I dig around to find the actual person who transfer the money.

It took me few days to reach that person & all resolved in good matter. The scammer, as always in-reach-able.
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Hello everyone, I am a pang zhen yang, also victims.
1. I do not know who kai Is
I also declare that I did not do any trading of computer accessories.
2. I specialize in Chinese Alipay. I do not know how he is to you transaction.
3. It also victims Thank you to help me to clarify a part of the event, we hope to find out, I did not cheat.

If there are other victims also suffer this problem, in this Xianxiang you sorry. I can provide some information about the transaction liar.
kai.88083@gmail.com wechat: Cwah

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