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Everdying
post Mar 22 2016, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(juicyliana @ Mar 22 2016, 12:55 PM)
i put dehumidfying bag and music nomad humireader to monitor the progress.

it works well but the dehumidfying bag needs to be replaced every 2 weeks once. the RH maintains between 46% - 55%.
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one thing about that if not mistaken is u should make sure it can cover the whole bag area, and not just a small area where u place it at...else needless to say kinda pointless.
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post Mar 22 2016, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2016, 01:06 PM)
one thing about that if not mistaken is u should make sure it can cover the whole bag area, and not just a small area where u place it at...else needless to say kinda pointless.
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Exactly. Kinda pointless. I rather drying the guitar up
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post Mar 22 2016, 07:45 PM

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post Mar 22 2016, 08:35 PM

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I just googled, they actually do make dry box for guitars shocking.gif

..and I thought they only made them for lens/camera gear biggrin.gif
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post Mar 23 2016, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2016, 01:06 PM)
one thing about that if not mistaken is u should make sure it can cover the whole bag area, and not just a small area where u place it at...else needless to say kinda pointless.
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i clip it to the guitar hole and place the guitar in the case to control the RH in the case instead of the entire room.

does that still work?
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post Mar 23 2016, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(sovtek @ Mar 22 2016, 08:35 PM)
I just googled, they actually do make dry box for guitars shocking.gif

..and I thought they only made them for lens/camera gear biggrin.gif
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I've seen one guy in sg convert a cabinet into a dry box

I'm thinking of doing that laugh.gif
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post Mar 23 2016, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Mar 23 2016, 03:09 PM)
I've seen one guy in sg convert a cabinet into a dry box

I'm thinking of doing that laugh.gif
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If you have one or two guitars is logical. What if you have more than 10 guitars? Buy another cabinet? Houses in sg are small, waste space.
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post Mar 23 2016, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(juicyliana @ Mar 23 2016, 03:06 PM)
i clip it to the guitar hole and place the guitar in the case to control the RH in the case instead of the entire room.

does that still work?
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I don't like the idea of clipping to the sound hole, long term will damage the top, eg. Dent or scratch.

Somehow u need to suck out the moisture out of the wood. The best and faster way is to schedule time like twice a week or once a month or every two months.

You don't need to do this for laminated wood or low end guitar. Well u could do if you want but you don't need to do that often, maybe every 6 months or 1 years once.
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post Mar 23 2016, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(gas4martin @ Mar 23 2016, 04:58 PM)
I don't like the idea of clipping to the sound hole, long term will damage the top, eg. Dent or scratch.

Somehow u need to suck out the moisture out of the wood. The best and faster way is to schedule time like twice a week or once a month or every two months.

You don't need to do this for laminated wood or low end guitar. Well u could do if you want but you don't need to do that often, maybe every 6 months or 1 years once.
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how do u suck out the moisture from the wood?

i do that only to my taylor full solid. the laminated ones just leave it as it is and it is still running good.
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post Mar 23 2016, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(juicyliana @ Mar 23 2016, 03:06 PM)
i clip it to the guitar hole and place the guitar in the case to control the RH in the case instead of the entire room.

does that still work?
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i guess depends how insulated the bag / case is? cos there's always the neck to also look after.
the best way really tho is to be richfag and put in aircon room.

QUOTE(+3kk! @ Mar 23 2016, 03:09 PM)
I've seen one guy in sg convert a cabinet into a dry box

I'm thinking of doing that laugh.gif
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#richfag #TanSriGP
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post Mar 23 2016, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(juicyliana @ Mar 23 2016, 06:09 PM)
how do u suck out the moisture from the wood?

i do that only to my taylor full solid. the laminated ones just leave it as it is and it is still running good.
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Place the dehumidifier facing the guitars, it can store up to 1.8 L. How to know when to dehumidify ? You can feel the neck angle moved and the guitar goes out of tune. After you dehumidify, it will go back to normal.

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post Mar 23 2016, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 23 2016, 08:32 PM)
i guess depends how insulated the bag / case is? cos there's always the neck to also look after.
the best way really tho is to be richfag and put in aircon room.
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You don't need to be rich to use aircon 24/7. All you need is lobang.....

Aircon would work since its a sucker, but make sure the aircon is on 24/7 else temperature and humidity changed would harm the guitar. I remember I had one guitar shipped all the way from extreme dry cold weather Canada to wet humid hot weather in Singapore, end up the guitar had lacquer checking. Dealers and builders won't compensate you for lacquer checking.

In Malaysia you can call someone to adjust the meter, I dunno how they do it but the electric bill won't go beyond RM50. I had a friend who has a huge salted water aquarium, he never turn off the aircon coz it has to be run 24/7 and his paying less than RM 50 every month for electric bill.

Downside he needs to service the aircon every 3 months.

In singapore you don't want to get yourself involve in doing illegal stuff. I don't think anyone wants to do it anyway....

having said that the most practical and economic way at least for myself is to use a dehumidifier

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post Mar 24 2016, 10:49 AM

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Large used dehumidifier @ super cheap price.

Dehumidifier Carousell (USED)

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post May 24 2016, 02:58 PM

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Just put it into the case, and place in aircond room. The aircond only on during night when u sleep and sometimes in the day...no need 24/7.
The proper case will restrict the fluctuations of humidity.

As for the dehumifier beads...tried that route before..even bought a whole large metal can of it...and even the giant store humidifiers where it collects water...place inside the case.. use to do that only when u do not have air cond.

Been storing my taylor 310 that way for more than 10 years in aircond room chuck under the bed, and a Norman solid top as well.
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post May 26 2016, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(tcb2010 @ May 24 2016, 02:58 PM)
Just put it into the case, and place in aircond room. The aircond only on during night when u sleep and sometimes in the day...no need 24/7.
The proper case will restrict the fluctuations of humidity.

As for the dehumifier beads...tried that route before..even bought a whole large metal can of it...and even the giant store humidifiers where it collects water...place inside the case.. use to do that only when u do not have air cond.

Been storing my taylor 310 that way for more than 10 years in aircond room chuck under the bed, and a Norman solid top as well.
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post May 30 2016, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(juicyliana @ May 26 2016, 04:54 PM)
how much is your electricity bill in a month?
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Can't quantify the electricity bill, as i only on the aircond during night time mainly and daytime only when in room.
But i do not turn on the aircond specifically just for the guitars, the guitars basically tumpang the aircond only when its switch on for daily use.

But i do believe that quality cases like the Taylor stock hardcase makes a difference in regulating extreme fluctuating in humidity...compared to a bare guitar in a aircond room that switch off-on periodically..
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post May 30 2016, 10:09 AM

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The other DIY method i previously practiced was, i put a few humidifier bead packets into a mini ziplock bags, and punch holes on it. Then i attached a string to that bag, and loop it to the bridge pins. Then the ziplock bag goes into the guitar thru the soundhole, and store the guitar in the case.

When i wanna play, i just pull out the ziplock bag. And change periodically when it turns color.

I was able to buy like 10kgs of these humidifier packets many years ago by chnace from a supplier, but now i got no idea where to source this stuff.
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post May 30 2016, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(tcb2010 @ May 30 2016, 10:09 AM)
The other DIY method i previously practiced was, i put a few humidifier bead packets into a mini ziplock bags, and punch holes on it.  Then i attached a string to that bag, and loop it to the bridge pins. Then the ziplock bag goes into the guitar thru the soundhole, and store the guitar in the case.

When i wanna play, i just pull out the ziplock bag. And change periodically when it turns color.

I was able to buy like 10kgs of these humidifier packets many years ago by chnace from a supplier, but now i got no idea where to source this stuff.
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now i use the cosway dehumidifier and clip it to the sound hole using music nomad humireader. the RH is the case can be maintained between 46% - 52%. once the bag turns fully gel up, the effectiveness dropped and it's time to change a new bag.
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QUOTE(tcb2010 @ May 30 2016, 10:09 AM)
The other DIY method i previously practiced was, i put a few humidifier bead packets into a mini ziplock bags, and punch holes on it.  Then i attached a string to that bag, and loop it to the bridge pins. Then the ziplock bag goes into the guitar thru the soundhole, and store the guitar in the case.

When i wanna play, i just pull out the ziplock bag. And change periodically when it turns color.

I was able to buy like 10kgs of these humidifier packets many years ago by chnace from a supplier, but now i got no idea where to source this stuff.
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post Aug 10 2016, 08:45 AM

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If u put silica gel beads inside the bag with the guitar will it make the guitar too dry?is too dry gonna damage the guitar?

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