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TSgas4martin
post Mar 20 2016, 12:03 AM, updated 10y ago

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We all know our country is extremely humid, with an average of 80-90% humidity level. That's extremely wet and may cause guitar tops and back to swell, high action, lacquer checking, at the same time may also cause the bridge of the guitar to lift.

Wonder if you all dehumidify (dry) it on daily, weekly, monthly basis or never care about doing it at all?

Most of the builders kept the factory at about 40-45% humidity level, so its kinda important for us to maintain our precious instruments.

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You don't have to do this if your guitars are made from Vietnam, Indonesia or China. You can always watch their factory tour on youtube.

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post Mar 20 2016, 08:53 AM

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TSgas4martin
post Mar 20 2016, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Mar 20 2016, 08:53 AM)
i only put my guitar in its case with the silica gel beads...biggrin.gif
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yes. most people in malaysia would rather buy other things than using the money for a proper dehumidifier RM 600- RM 1000. I had a bad experience so i don't want let it happen again.
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post Mar 22 2016, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(gas4martin @ Mar 20 2016, 11:23 PM)
yes. most people in malaysia would rather buy other things than using the money for a proper dehumidifier RM 600- RM 1000. I had a bad experience so i don't want let it happen again.
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what bad experience? care to share...? smile.gif
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post Mar 22 2016, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Mar 22 2016, 09:21 AM)
what bad experience? care to share...? smile.gif
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I remember few years ago, i brought my guitar to bentley music, they didn't offer any advise on dehumidifying it. The top was swelling badly, and all they did was lowering the saddle and adjusting the neck which is total bullshit coz it will make it even worse... long term.

Dehumidifying would actually bring down the swell back to normal.

I also had some lacquer checking on my nitro finish guitar.

4 main scenarios:

1) Top/ back bulging (swelling)
2) Bridge lifted
3) High Action
4) Guitar finish checking


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post Mar 22 2016, 11:02 AM

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i believe that lacquer checking is more a by-product of the top moving...
nowadays also arent there guitars that are made with a slight arch in the back already?

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QUOTE(gas4martin @ Mar 20 2016, 11:23 PM)
yes. most people in malaysia would rather buy other things than using the money for a proper dehumidifier RM 600- RM 1000. I had a bad experience so i don't want let it happen again.
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lol

i chuck desiccants from giant and put a cheap RM5 meter in my guitar case

works tho.
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Mar 22 2016, 11:12 AM)
lol

i chuck desiccants from giant and put a cheap RM5 meter in my guitar case

works tho.
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worse comes to worse, GP can refinish it for u back to brand new USA standards whistling.gif
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post Mar 22 2016, 11:28 AM

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nitro is one of the best finish already used by the oldest guitar company, e.g..martin, gibson.

The worse i've seen is polyurethane finish used by modern guitar builder, for instance... taylor guitars. polyurethane is essentially plastic.

This is what happen to a 900 series taylor

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post Mar 22 2016, 11:32 AM

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post Mar 22 2016, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2016, 11:15 AM)
worse comes to worse, GP can refinish it for u back to brand new USA standards  whistling.gif
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The sound wont be the same after you refinish. It has to be wet sand first.

I rather have the lacquer checking.... Finish checking is mojo in my eyes
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2016, 11:15 AM)
worse comes to worse, GP can refinish it for u back to brand new USA standards  whistling.gif
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and charge me 7k for it

QUOTE(gas4martin @ Mar 22 2016, 11:28 AM)
nitro is one of the best finish already used by the oldest guitar company, e.g..martin, gibson.

The worse i've seen is polyurethane finish used by modern guitar builder, for instance...  taylor guitars. polyurethane is essentially plastic.

This is what happen to a 900 series taylor

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ahh the good ol poly crack, flake, peel

one must be very unlucky to get that
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i believe martin also have a line of poly finished guitars?
while taylors only moved to poly sometime in the late 90s right?
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post Mar 22 2016, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2016, 12:10 PM)
i believe martin also have a line of poly finished guitars?
while taylors only moved to poly sometime in the late 90s right?
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Martin only uses nitro.
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QUOTE(gas4martin @ Mar 22 2016, 12:18 PM)
Martin only uses nitro.
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even on the mexican models?

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post Mar 22 2016, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2016, 12:27 PM)
even on the mexican models?
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Mexican models are satin finish
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post Mar 22 2016, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(gas4martin @ Mar 22 2016, 12:29 PM)
Mexican models are satin finish
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yes, satin...but nitro or poly?
u can also achieve a satin finish with poly.
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post Mar 22 2016, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2016, 12:32 PM)
yes, satin...but nitro or poly?
u can also achieve a satin finish with poly.
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Yup you are right, only x series Mexico made uses Poly but that's not the point Coz it's satin. You won't see any peeling like the ones on poly gloss finish
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QUOTE(gas4martin @ Mar 22 2016, 12:44 PM)
Yup you are right, only x series Mexico made uses Poly but that's not the point Coz it's satin. You won't see any peeling like the ones on poly gloss finish
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hmm i guess that would depend how many coats the satin had...i havent handled an x-series before...so no idea.
but if its a very thin wipe, i guess thats pretty nice...would be just as good as a nitro thin wipe.
but if say a 3 or 4 coat satin finish would very likely still peel.

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QUOTE(gas4martin @ Mar 20 2016, 12:03 AM)
We all know our country is extremely humid, with an average of 80-90% humidity level. That's extremely wet and may cause guitar tops and back to swell, high action, lacquer checking, at the same time may also cause the bridge of the guitar to lift.
Wonder if you all dehumidify (dry) it on daily, weekly, monthly basis or never care about doing it at all?
Most of the builders kept the factory at about 40-45% humidity level, so its kinda important for us to maintain our precious instruments.
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You don't have to do this if your guitars are made from Vietnam, Indonesia or China. You can always watch their factory tour on youtube.
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i put dehumidfying bag and music nomad humireader to monitor the progress.

it works well but the dehumidfying bag needs to be replaced every 2 weeks once. the RH maintains between 46% - 55%.
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