Hi and I hope you're having a nice day.

I was wondering on how much do a Safety Officer make per month/year?
Is it a good/stable job in Malaysia?
I would like to know more about this job. I would appreciate it if someone could explain to me on what do Safety Officer do for a living?

This post has been edited by ManLegend: Mar 17 2016, 01:35 AM

same here..i really wanted to know more about it..thnaks

mark_vyz

Before that what is your educational background?

I have a friend whom completed his study in Bach. mechanical engineering (aviation) from UniKL MIAT...two months ago, he took safety officer course at NIOSH Bangi and get the certification of attendance...he's yet to take the exam but decided to go for job since needs money to pay for the exam...
The problem now is he unable to work in safety officer roles (applying for assistant) since all of co.want the green@yellow book holder the experience one...
So, can anybody suggest what roles he should look for with the qualification and hopefully can helps him to start accumulate experience to become safety officer...
Much thanks in advance

Educational background? What do you mean?

He can't get a job as a Safety Officer because he has no experience?

Sorry, what i meant was your qualification prior to taking safety officer's course/

Yes, to become one, he needs to have at least 3 years of exp. related to risk, safety conduct and all related exposure to safety in organisation
Since his first qualification from uni is from engineering n not safety&health@risk management, his road might not easy..even for assistant position they want one with 2-3 years of exp.

Ahh :/

i only got like 4 credits for my spm, got a D for science :c

This post has been edited by ManLegend: Jan 16 2019, 11:56 AM

i dont mind sharing 2 HSEO who works in my team. age 25. Offshore type. Dayrate = Rm600

1 of them is a full time employee somewhere else but just hopped into this project while hes clearing leave. lol. From what i see their quality and workload, actually any joe also can be one HSEO.

only in merehsia, safety officer = hypocrites. can come out with 1000 stats charts but lack of authority, confidence to nurture the practice.


but i heard la (HEARD), its kind of saturated nowadays with HSEO. just like ROV techs pilots all cuz all attracted with the money but no experience

I'm sorry but I do not understand what are you saying..

HSE fella is overcrowded nowadays. Especially in O&G.

Money matters - depend on your experiences. It could go up to 20K per month or more.
Stability - Yes. Its the law..OSHA 1994 & Safety & Health Regulation. But you need to maintain a valid DOSH green book.
Agreed with everyone..its saturated now. The market for HSE is way too saturated. We could see almost everywhere promote SHO course. If you want to start, i suggest you go for SSS first or the yellow book.

mohdyakup Still waiting patiently for any good news...huhu..even vacancy for HSE in OnG is also getting rare except for pengerang

Ehh Chiyoda bercarik SHO for project rah Bintulu. Sikkan sekda Hajar contact kau bro?

Nya mauk triple S bro..site safety supervisor

Sik try mintak Serba Dinamik?

Nowadays, its seems like every tom, dick and harry is studying to be safety officer.

Hi ManLegend,

I'm in safety field more than 7 years and counting. If you want to start a career in HSE, here some of the requirements:

1. Working in any field related with safety, mostly engineering.
2. Acquire the cert through studies (certificates, diploma, degree, etc)
3. Yellow book/card : You got this when you already taken SHO course and pass the exam but did not have 3 years experience.
4 Green book: You got this after completing SHO course, pass all the exams and accumulate 3 years experience in full time job as HSE Exec or any position as HSE.

The pay is vary from RM3k to the sky is the limit, depend on industries you involved in. Its a stable job once you got the green book. The demand are everywhere mostly in manufacturing & construction.

What SHO do:

1. As advisor in HSE matters (law, law, law and more laws...)
2. You do more reporting once you are an SHO. Mostly workplace inspection, safety equipment inspection, personel protective equipment issuance & inspection...more inspection.
3. Prepare documents (policies, procedures, work instruction, workplace inspection report, incident & accident report, etc..)
4. Act as CSI if any incident or accident. Find the root cause based on the evidence and report it to management & statutory bodies (DOSH, DOE).

Its a very nice job if you like what are you doing. Please bear in mind, the green book only valid in Malaysia. I'm not sure about other countries. You need to go for NEBOSH IGC if you want to work as SHO in overseas.

Trust me, once you got the NEBOSH IGC, the SHO world is not the same anymore as what do you see it previously.

Safety market like the others have said is saturated, there are loads of green book holder currently compared to before, but not many GOOD ones. From experience, out of 5 SHO i've ever encountered, only 1 is really good in what he does. IMO it has to do with what background of his tertiary education. fyi he was an engineering grad the other 4 is from business & safety background

This post has been edited by DuFfz: Mar 30 2016, 10:56 AM

Thank you for the great info on this. This is what I was searching for.

Do you really need to get credit in Science to take safety course? cause I got D for science...

Not to complaint but like the forumers here have said about private colleges offering health & safety courses, even if u fail SPM u can enroll.
Basic knowledge of science / engineering is useful in the long run in the case if u happen to explaining safety related stuff to technical personnel such as engineers etc.

safety officer during the O&G glory days can earn up to sgd70k/month on project basis.. but now that fella has been jobless for the past 1 year though..

I have just explained to a yellow and green book SHO with 6 years plus experience on why need to earth flammable cabinet.
He did not know since the last 6 years plus as a SHO.
There are more which I personally experienced really
like you mentioned, the good one is very very less probability to experience.

This is informative enough. I am myself too considering switching from Project Controller to SHO. Thanks sir

If you have "lobang", please let me know.

This post has been edited by tearyheaven: Mar 30 2017, 10:00 PM

mohdyakup duffz feekle mark_vyz


Hi guys, you guys seems to know alot about sho and stuff. I have questions here.
Im a medical assisntant dip holder and planning to become a SO. What should i do next? Should take sss or sho course? Or Bachelor in oshm? Ayam si confused right now. Hope you guys can help me step by step pls. Thanks in advance.

This post has been edited by hakim1994: May 1 2017, 06:00 PM

I myself not in this line, however, I could say that those Safety Officers that have relevant qualifications and professional accreditation will be making a decent living here, as every manufacturing site and warehouse are required to have Safety Officer.

parking here, since ayam is considering HSE / HSO in the future

Hey guys, I am interested in this occupation.
I am going to graduate from MEng Mechanical Engineering soon.
Is this possible for my case?
Also, how can I start, as a fresh graduate?

hi there...

i am a mother of 2 kids. im very interested to do this OSH job since im a radiographer for 9 yrs before this..im also responsible on radiation monitoring in my hospital and i have Radiation Protection Officer as well. the only thing is im really need experience from any female OSH to know about this OSH market. Can anyone who is female safety officer reply?

I heard from my friend who is HR from Construction company.

Of course, there are a lot of construction projects need SSS or SHO. However, normally company only offer contract 1 year to them depends on the duration of project.

Of course, you can earn good salary if you will to accept the contract (no sure that they will renew your contract after 1 year).

However, what I feel is the market got too many site safety supervisor / SHO after O&G industry go down.


This post has been edited by Jesse0916: Aug 20 2017, 06:38 PM

Yes it possible for you..
Just find any safety course offered by NIOSH then take their exam after that..
But the course i can say quite costly, most people got sponsorship.. but i think better you work first see is it in your work surrounding need a safety supervisor / officer and how long usually their contract..
Different field maybe different requirements.. mechanical and civil even though its under engineering still different work surrounding..

anyone took NEBOSH IGC before?

Difficult or not to pass?

And how is the job prospect?

i plan to take the test this year. from the course notes that i received from my colleague, it looks super tough!

i think a basic background in process engineering will help you a lot. ability to 'goreng' is needed but nebosh IGC is really strict with how you answer the questions. must 'goreng' depending on the 'action word' in each of the question. example, EXPLAIN or DESCRIBE will require you to goreng while LIST, IDENTIFY etc will need you to put it in point form.

and need to remember, this is UK level, not the usual Malaysia-style exams..

based on what i know, those who go for this exam usually wanted to work abroad. having this in malaysia slightly adds your value. nothing more..


btw, i am also a safety practitioner.. been working in the field since 2010.. started in construction sector (everly putrajaya is my project site), then move on to oil & gas since 2012. if you guys have question, can tag me in your post and i'll try to give you an answer

This post has been edited by dynames07: Apr 25 2018, 05:02 PM

Thank you for the feedback.

The NEBOSH IGC, is it a course or just an exam?

This post has been edited by billy360: Jan 16 2019, 02:03 AM

Is it even possible to become a triple S / yellow book holder, when u already pass the SHOexam but didnt acquire 3years working exp?

Im not from safety background, so what safety jobs can I apply while possessing only the NIOSH SHO attend cert?

it is an exam actually. but due to the harshness of the question, training center will usually conduct 5-days course for you before the actual sitting in the exam.

4 - 5 days exam > weekend > exam

You can apply to our company as we are an SHE company.

But no fresh grads please, we consider only those with minimum 4 years experience and those who are not jobhoppers.

Do they also use the 'Greenbook' term ? I mean, what certificate will they give to u to approve u as a competent person?

well thank you. May I know the name of ur comp?

Im curious too...Will your company accept nebosh holder?

Yes, assuming you have minimum 4 years experience and not a jobhopper.

i think you misunderstood some of the terms regarding HSE competency..

Green Book = competency as Safety & Health Officer, granted by the Department of Occupational Safety & Health Malaysia and is governed by the OSHA 1994 Act.

recent competency from DOSH are known as yellow book. a bit 'lower class' from green book holder and mostly applicable for construction site.

others is like CIMAH competent person (highly in demand, currently around Malaysia less than 30 people with this competency), industrial hygienist etc.

As for NEBOSH IGC, malaysian employers seldom see this as an added value. those taking this exams usually have their sights set to work oversea in the HSE field. example you want to be SHO in Australia / Singapore, you need to have at least NEBOSH IGC before being considered to work there.

on your first question, you can definitely get the cert, even without actual experience in the field. i personally know a lot of people who backdated their document / evidence just to cut short the duration.

but.. even with the cert i.e. green/yellow book, it is quite easy to identify those who are new and those who use short-cut to get their certs

I actually caught one guy doing this and promptly reported him to DOSH.

We in the safety line cannot be complacent and must guard the profession against unscrupulous people and practises.

totally agree with you bro. and it is so easy to identify who cheated and who is not. ask few basic questions, and see them stumbling to find correct answers. even the use of common terms also got jumble up.

Better look elsewhere

Institutions vomiting too many courses for people hence now there is less and less job for safety practitioners

not to mention, those SHO who practice "lesen gantung" all over malaysia

Is safety officer=security officer?

Would you mind to explain what does "lesen gantung" mean?

for each construction project with a value of 20 million and above, the main contractor must hire a certified safety officer with a valid greenbook. The safety officer would have to register the construction site with DOSH/JKKP using his green book registration

"gantung lesen" is a practice that whereby the main contractor have more than 1 project running concurrently, they would just use the same safety officer to register the construction site. sometimes different main contractor sometimes small project such as construction of a Mosque in some ulu area.

sometimes up to 10 sites at the same time, and the main contractor would negotiate to pay the safety officer RM**** to RM **** (depending on the size and value of the site) for each site. You think O&G safety still the riches among them? to construct a small mosque at some ulu are also they pay the safety officer 2k per month to use his green book, and he does not even have to check up on the site ever, as long there is no incident happen and if it did they will cover up as soon as they can. DOSH don't bother check the site because "not high priority" .

DOSH is trying to kill off this practice, but it is still going rampant, not only that other safety officer is not getting job, even the small Site Safety Supervisor (SSS) can't get jobs.

and institutions is still vomiting out SSS and SHO because they are run by the same old school safety practitioner because they know teaching safety courses is easy money even though when they come out, they wont have any jobs for them

example.
a SSS course is RM2k , average class attendance is 50-60 pax, course length 2 weeks. 1 month 2 batches, you do the math, how much this institutions is earning. Soon people will complain safety susah cari kerja, so better they earn as much as they can before the jigg is up.

Ok kinda guess is this case. My co. projects the main con also have such practice.

I've spoken to a few DOSH officers and it seems that they are having difficulties as you said to kill off such practice.

4 years experience in Safety?

Should I have questions in relation to safety and health in the workplace, would you mind if I pm you for advice/suggestions?

I am still fairly new in the safety field, only 1 and a half years experience, still working to accumulate experience before can proceed to register with DOSH as SHO. So I would grateful if Safety Sifus can share some guidance.

This post has been edited by Gaia34: May 21 2019, 03:15 PM

No prob. Do pm me.

if you're the only safety officer in a company, can you still hold other executive positions, ie, quality assurance executive?