This dishonest seller, nikmuhammadhafiz had wasted my 1 week time and finally behave like not selling.
Here's his thread [WTS]Sony Ericsson P800

Yup, as u can see, there's not even a single post/offer from me in his thread. It because all the conversation and deal was done through pm.
This fellas and i had make the deal on 19th Dec and he promised reserve the phone for me until we cod on 27th Dec. Why 27th Dec? He said the phone stil in his brother's hand and he only can hand it to me on 27th Dec, after his brother come back from kl. Well, i have no prob with that 1-week-extend and i agreed as how we want it.

On 27th Dec, he seem like gone missing. I got pm and send message to his ym and asked where to cod but he never reply and answer. Well, fyi, he got my hp number and supposed if there's something make him cant do the cod on that day, he supposed to inform me and not disappear without a sentence like that.
Guess what? He sms me at last, but that was at around 10pm. 10 pm!!! from what we deal, the cod was during day. Since 10pm is not that late so i suggest we cod straight away at somewhere nearby his place. So funny, dunno whether he think i'm such an idiot or what. He tell me he live at "this place", but the fact that place dun have ppl (malay) live. Farking liar!! After i gave a shot on his face bout the location he gave me, he then suggest we cod on the next day, thursday 28th Dec and agreed at 1230. Nvm, i've waited for a week, so not a big deal to wait for one more day.

On 28th' morning, he sms me and told that he could not make it on the promised time and asked to cod somewhere in evening and at higher price . He increased the price at the last minute . He adi agreed with the price before make the deal but then when wan cod, keep on asking for a new higher price. WTF!

So... for ppl who intend to deal with this farking newbie, be extra precautious. This seller dun have a good dealling ethic.

This post has been edited by anQi: Jan 2 2007, 03:05 PM

Newbie
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Member Group: Junior Member
Joined: December 2006

That's why i now avoid doing business (both selling and buying) with those who are newbie, never posted and just come to lowyat for selling stuff, coz the risk is so high it's just not worth the effort.
Guys please check a person's date of joining LYN before thinking of doing business with that person

luckily you havent done payment with him otherwise you will be f***k.
cheers...

yeah, that's mostly true.

luckily...

I think he's a multiple account users of:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=74955 = sekut5186
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=80110 = Xialong
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=86389 = MaxisTradeItem

These are the three acounts that I noticed, being warned by elaineliew88 that he has multiple accounts, then from the way he posted. As in "superb" english, can 90% confrim he's the one.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Dec 30 2006, 11:41 AM

confirm sekut5186 and MaxisTradeItem was same person as this "farking Newbie". Same ym and same item to sell. i beleive this user deserve to get the dispute tag. farking parasite

This post has been edited by anQi: Dec 30 2006, 11:55 AM

Xialong was created to accuse elaineliew88
case here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=354469&hl=

i have this 'sekut" phone no if u ppl want it. and... there's user evr do cod with his bro too.

this user got open multiple thread to sell same item, should be planning to scam and f**k ppl

Payment is thru bank in transfer to my account in any of the following banks:
-CIMB Bank 12150070063524

Yahoo Messenger Y! : hafiz_sekut
Msn: nik muhammad hafiz
My Number : 0179834134

*Credit/topup will be sent after receiving your payment, transaction details and mobile number(for credit/topup).

Thanks.

is there any place we can refer to before making any deal? ie. to check the certain user profile, status, banned account number etc? too many fraud liao le...

This post has been edited by anQi: Dec 30 2006, 12:34 PM

You can have more info about blacklisted forummers here

thakns lotsa. that's many of em

This post has been edited by anQi: Dec 30 2006, 01:38 PM

Hope you guys can make use of this sub-forum here

and have you PM him to come over here to further explain?

This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Dec 30 2006, 01:52 PM

he never bother. had sms n had pm.
I didnt expect to get anything from him by posting here. juz to warn other forumer to be more precautious when/if dealing with this person.

This post has been edited by anQi: Dec 30 2006, 03:07 PM

OMG.. is this the same person who bought the mickey jacket from elaineliew88?

i think you better just forget about it man.. you will get nothing but trouble from him.. he's probably some 13year old kid (read brat) or smthng

yeah, luckily i didn lost much. just a week time and few rm for the sms. should call him, farking brat instead

Luckily i didn't deal with him..pm him but he's answer me kinda rudely...

yea, seems like this "sekut" have numbers of ethical prob.

hmm i remember seeing a SOLD sign at his p800 thread and closed it

something funny going on this guy anyway

his COD location : KL and KB(Kota Bharu) =.=|| east and west msia

he closed the thread after i i asked y he still ofer other on 20th Dec while adi deal to reserve the item for me at 19th Dec. Guess what he ans me? He said he farking forgot to close the thread and then other ppl ofer him. But the fact is... he offered others.

His bro is at kl while he himself at kb. Well that what he told me.

hmm even so, how could he get the phone to his bro? unless he flew there or his bro flew to kb =.=" sounds impossible

just my 2 cents

why not you post his hp no., we all gave him a midnight cal.. ..i dont see much movitation in doing this.he don't earn anything except bad reputation and get f**ked by ppl...

i see so many ppl in the official blacklist...can't we do something about these ppl besides...blacklis them..i mean they can create an account again and start it all over again...

This post has been edited by jimmy_none: Jan 1 2007, 12:45 PM

his bro cod the p800 with 1 of our mamber in lyn ere. Then i currently at kb and he said his bro is coming home (to kb) on wed 27th dec. So.. supposed cod with him at kb. So many excuse from him, keep on change/up the price too. wtf

this few days seems like he didnt on9 ere at lyn. Bet he had created new account de. So.. for those who're intend to deal with newbie, be extra precautious. esp with "superb" english freak.

here's his number n info :-

most streamyx user have this dynamic ip. so, guess not much can be done to permently kick em out of here. what we can do is juz put the ppl detail in the blacklist seller. But... most of us pretty lz to check it

This post has been edited by anQi: Jan 1 2007, 02:34 PM

i buy p800 use maxis rm510 in sim card and i send the sim card to my brother at kuala lumpur to trade with p800 with viking from this lowyat member then the p800 phone at kuala lumpur already trade with viking just now my brother back to kelantan hari raya korban...

and anqi want the phone rm390 only i already sms he tell want rm400 he dont want and i nvm

This post has been edited by nikmuhammadhafiz: Jan 1 2007, 09:38 PM

act we deal at other price. no matter what, u had agreed that and promised reserved and cod. yes, it also u who keep on pm me and ask me to confirm that deal of us. isnt it?
everything juz fine until the cod day, where the morning he sms me and insist for higher price. yes, when we almost want to cod...

this is what taken from our pm

the red font is from me while the rest is his. No editing excep the color to make easier for all ppl here to see. those duit duit duit is refering to the price we agreed. Bro hafiz, how much ha we agreed??

edit:
he make me wait for a week and finally insist for higher price when almost wan cod

This post has been edited by anQi: Jan 2 2007, 09:21 AM

anQi are you from kb? just asking

oh i didn`t catch something, err, izzit, hafiz here ffk you on the cod day and request on a higher price or..?

from kb and currently at kb. i always hop ere hop there due to work's need.
hafiz... erm... in short... we dealed on 19-20th dec. promised cod at 27th dec. on 27th he gone missing n then delayed to 28th dec. on 28th, few hour before we cod, he sms and insist for higher price (400).
can say that he canceled the price we agreed and want for his new price. sort of ffk as well i think...

btw, can anyone tell me what "ffk" mean?

its mean fang fei ji (chinese) converted to cantonese

btw anQi, did u purchase the phone already? and whats your original price? rm 390?

anqi u sms me tell if lebih dari rm390 u taknak pastu taknak takpe la apa plak merungut nie

it's not my original price but from our deal,we agreed at 370. but when wan cod, he asked for 400.
nope i didnt purchase it cause he didnt keep his deal.

yup, that sentence is true. but leh, that was when (ans: 28th dec)? we tied our deal is when (ans: 19-20th dec), what the price u n me agreed (ans: 370)?

my advice... do not deal with ppl la if u not able to completethe deal
apa pulak mau change change at last minute like that?

we anqi ko faham tak telefon tu abang aku baru beli dengan viking budak forum nie minggu lepas beli kat kl rm510 !!

abang aku balik kb hari raya korban hari selasa dia dah buat balik telefon tu dan dia cakap nak rm400 pastu aku sms ko kan cakap rm400 ko cakap last rm390 pastu ko cakap kalau lebih dari rm390 ko taknak pastu aku pon cakap kalau taknak takpe la pastu asal ko bukak thread nie cakap rugi masa ko seminggu aku dha cakap kan abang aku kat kl

funny what lol
me at kota bharu kelantan
and my brother at kuala lumpur then why?

yup, u got mention. i oso got mention in my 1st post. check it out!
when u deal with me, it wask like this "ok. sold to u at 370. make sure u have that money when we cod"
but then when wan cod, it was like this "it's 400, take it or leave it!"

halooooo...

This post has been edited by anQi: Jan 2 2007, 03:04 PM

dan ko cakap kalau lebih dari rm390 ko taknak pastu aku cancel la

malas dah aku layan ko...
aku sekarang bz aku takkan on lowyat again because internet slow

bro hafiz, how much did u SOLD to me that time?? thread there oso still showing SOLD to me.

edit:
meh sini nak bagitau sikit pasal akta kontrak n akta jual beli. Jual "sold" situ adalah pada harga yg telah dipersetujui pada masa & tarikh berkenaan. bukannya pada harga akan datang.

This post has been edited by anQi: Jan 2 2007, 03:16 PM

1 lagi aku nak cakap itu hak aku nak letak berapa harga telefon tu sebab itu telefon aku

aku dah malas layan ko dan aku jarang on lowyat sebab internet slow dan aku sekarang sibuk

aku xsurh ngko layan aku pun. this thread bun bukan btujuan utk suruh ngko buat ape ape. juz nak inform esp to buyer kat lyn ni yg interested kat brg ko spy bhati-hati semasa@kalau nak dealing ngan ngko. tak nak karang jadi senasib ngan aku...

any1, come ere see this... he said the phone was his. so it's his right to sell at any price.

which for me, thats mean... yes he's selling at this price today. but if he wan higher 2moro, that's his right and that's the price u have to pay and the deal b4 is void.

jarang on lyn @ dah bukak username baru???


pipedream, are u from kb?

This post has been edited by anQi: Jan 2 2007, 03:30 PM

it is confirmed that nikmuhammadhafiz and sekut5186 are the same person..refer to their ym nickname - hafiz_sekut

UPDATE - nikmuhammadhafiz,sekut5186,xialong and MaxisTradeItem (so many accounts ) are obviously the same person with same phone no,trading skill(using topup),superb english,place and ym nickname..

same phone no - http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=374734&hl=
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=379511&hl=

using topup to trade -
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=74955
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=374734&hl=

same place - kelantan

ym - hafiz_sekut

so now TE,its time to blacklist and permenantly ban their(his) IP..

This post has been edited by kalakatu: Jan 2 2007, 04:01 PM

99.999% confirm

This post has been edited by anQi: Jan 2 2007, 03:52 PM

Nikmuhamadhafiz, you are a plain stupid, it's you're fault here, you've already agreed on what anqi offered, then why did you mark up the price on last minute?

Yes, it is you're right to sell anything on whatever price you want, but a promise is a promise. Got it?

You've promised to sell that phone to anqi at a price that was agreed before the COD is done, and now you're pleading you're not guilty for cancelling the sales because the buyer didn't agree on the price markup eventhough you already agreed that you're going to sell that phone to anqi at a price that has already been agreed by you and him?

Seriously, you are a plain stupid...

Plain stupid for not keeping you're promise...

Let's us all ignore this kid, and never buy from him again, i believe he will do the same thing in the future again & again...

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Jan 2 2007, 03:53 PM

not 99.999&,its already 100% confirm that they are the same person.
refer to my edited post above..

This post has been edited by kalakatu: Jan 2 2007, 04:03 PM

he deserve that

Bro sHawTY, thanks for ur support

so wonder... for what reason he created so many account here . one of the nick had heard used for framing elaineliew88

This post has been edited by anQi: Jan 2 2007, 04:04 PM

something to do with buying a jacket, if i remember correct

yup..2 cases so far - jacket and photoshoped pm to frame elaineliew88

just check dis out Link

he sold somtin to other forumer... its posibble he just made it up or its a diff ppl.. sold to newbie oso.. maybe can ask dat person how he deal wit dis fella.

adi did such crime, y not TE/admin/mod juz ban his username? admin ere should restict the sign up process lit bit. eg. have this e-mail verification or something.

Best kalau kau ni jangan on forum.lowyat.net lagi lah dari hari ni onwards..
I doubt anyone here welcomes u anymore with ur immature ways..




It's not easy keeping someone out.
Malaysia has dynamic IP so u can't blacklist an ip.
There are thousands of free emails in the internet. If someone wants he can just keep creating and creating.
The only thing we can do is inform others of dishonest sellers like these and hope everyone avoids him, then he hopefully will learn his lesson, or at least go elsewhere.

well i havent see the dispute tag given to him yet.
and i think dispute tag should be given to all his active accounts,not juz nikmuhammadhafiz

need to pm the mod or.... act, who in-charge in this dt awarding?

Mickey Mouse jacket

How come it's written there "item sold to anqi" ?

yup, it juz written there sold to me. and that's before he changed his mind.

mod, faster award this sekut a lovely dispute tag!

tak boleh la macam tu dik, kalau dah dipersetujui harga pada RM370, mesti stick pada harga tu...tak boleh ubah sesuka hati.

hafiz can only be inserted into minor offender list, and not the tag dispute.

then how bout a multiple accounts and elaineliew88's case?

If you follow through elaineliew88's case, you can see that sekut is not satisfied with the jacket that has been bought, and some confusion that happen between her and sekut. Obviously, everyone knows that sekut trying to get back something, but his attitude piss off most of us. Hence, no one entertain him. The multiple account case, use the report button. The admin would know what to do. If you read LYN R&R,

and believe me, they can trace every account or most of the account

There is no point if you give him a tag dispute too. He can just create another new account. This will go forever. Listed in minor offender list at least will let the buyer some eye opener, and if they bother to check the list, they will take precautions.

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Jan 3 2007, 06:05 PM

got see sekut ever on9 this morning, but dunno y never come here left some comment, deny or something. my pm-box currently almost full, 60% was his and... dun1 to keep it there for so long. wan to clear it... but... ltr he come say what what what den no proof to show.

This post has been edited by anQi: Jan 3 2007, 10:51 PM

That mean his topic is misleading already lor..

Perhaps he registered a new account again.

just copy down in notebook or something xD

i dun think he will come justify himself dy la, seeing all the posts here are against him

i believe this sekut should be list at "The Trade Zone Minor Offenders List", how to do that? going to close this thread soon.

Sorry for the delay. Tagging MaxisTradeItem and nikmuhammadhafiz with Bad Trader (rolled over from sekut5186).