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post Jun 29 2016, 04:40 PM

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urgh.. now they talking about BRETURN.. blink.gif
come on.. fea FEAR.. else no high impact opportunities cry.gif

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/after-bre...urse-2016-06-28

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post Jul 13 2016, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 13 2016, 01:37 PM)
Not enough moo to top up now... sad.gif
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http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/mar...s/usmarkets.asp
US major indices all time high or spitting distance

http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/mar...orldmarkets.asp
EU flopping around as usual
Asia Pacific middling-year high

whatcha targetting if ada moolah? notworthy.gif
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post Jul 15 2016, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Amatiel @ Jul 15 2016, 10:43 AM)
u got c wrong or not? 0.766 as of 12/7 le
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maybe he saw the future price gua or bad shrooms/trip tongue.gif

Just checked on FSM: Global Tits at RM 0.7644 (July 13, 2016)
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...-Fund-MYCIMB010

Gave me false hope pulak.. sigh..

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post Jul 21 2016, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 21 2016, 11:57 AM)
I'm so happy, I'm sooooooo happy... at long last, a website that can compare apple to apple; orange to orange insurance product. No need to ask quotation from various agents to hunt for the best deal! Yay!
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wub.gif FSM Insurance!

Xuzen
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Just to share:
i just poked around in there for my personal death & accident term insurance options.

Tokio Marine Life's U for Life is still "more bang for buck" compared to the listed annual cost - like for like coverage (term 5 years & term 10 years; 500,000). Urgh.. was hoping to reduce my cost further tongue.gif

Note - i took total 5 years' & 10 years' premium cost to compare as some term insurance increases yearly or 5/10 years.

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post Jul 21 2016, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 21 2016, 01:07 PM)
I believe the insurance policies distributed on FSM and uforlife is of different class. Uforlife is strict term life with variable insurance charge and what you see for the future premium is only indicative; the ones distributed on FSM are non-participating life insurance policies which is closer to whole life

Happy to learn more from the experts though. adele123 would you like to tell us more?  notworthy.gif
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er.. i chose the stated "Term" as opposed to "Health" insurance on the platform.
not term meh?
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post Jul 21 2016, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 21 2016, 06:22 PM)
Sounds great! just a bit strange that uforlife is so much cheaper than the FSM options if they are similar products
And look forward to intermediary-less insurance products...
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not MUCH cheaper lar, just cheaper
Note - there is even cheaper than U for Life leh, Pub Mut (your unloved) has Group Life policy (underwritten by AIA) & also Hospitalization policy (by LonPac) only for Pub Mutters tongue.gif They are useful for SOME stuff heeheh
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post Jul 27 2016, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 27 2016, 03:51 PM)
@Dasecret,

Local UT company need not reinvent the wheel by creating a fund just to invest in foreign assets. Just create a feeder fund and buy into well established mat-salleh funds lar. Simple, no need to crack head. Example for US equity, why not just create a UTF that buys into Spyder500 that in indexed to S&P which is well know for its ultra low MER of 0.10% p.a.. Let's say this local UT earn another 0.5% for doing absolutely nothing. Even with 0.1 + 0.5 = 0.6% MER, we M'sian investor still gain because industry standard here is charging a whopping 1.5% for all UTF!

In reverse, manage mat-salleh's money when they come into Malaysia.

Goijng forward, with MSCI reducing M'sia percentage in its index, less foreign fund will be coming in. We have to look outside our cocoon to cari-makan liao.

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UTF becoming WTF when one realizes the % charged for mgt fees here
VS things like Vanguard mutual funds or ETFs...
urgh..

the worse "place to be in" is:
Portfolio just big enough to buy ETFs directly
BUT
too hurt (ie. portfolio not big enough to NOT FEEL) the selling-off UTF/transfer to new broker/buying ETFs

ie - if too small to bother, then diam diam UTF lar
if way big enough, then easily worthwhile to move over to ETFs
but in the middle cry.gif

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post Jul 29 2016, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 29 2016, 10:17 AM)
Yeah not sure how many ppl will be willing to have RM100K stuck in a fund for the next 7 yrs with no guarantee of a good return.
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yar.. especially when one can DIY with US stocks & options easily at that amount
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post Aug 1 2016, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Aug 1 2016, 02:45 PM)
The announcement is not formally out yet, but I noticed the list of EPF approved funds are already updated on EPF website

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/en/web/kwsp/...vestment-scheme

Surprises?
Ponzi 2.0 is not on the list - http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10...sh_29072016.pdf
My personal fav RHB Asian Income also not on the list while the useless GEYF is on the list  mad.gif - http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10...sh_29072016.pdf
Affin Hwang and Kenanga doesn't have additional funds on the list
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thumbup.gif CIMB Principal Global Titans in the list
EIS GEMS elek.. doh.gif

Thanks for sharing - was exactly what i asked FSM over weekend email (they responded dunno yet) notworthy.gif
time to move some EPF cash to Global Titans.. waaaay too heavy in MY equities (% wise) sweat.gif

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post Aug 3 2016, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Aug 3 2016, 10:28 AM)
But then if you only chose 1, very unlikely to choose CIMB small cap right? Kenanga Growth Fund and EI Small cap 10 year return is so much higher compared to CIMB small cap, in fact, all durations also better than CIMB small cap

No offense, just trying to say sometimes fundhouse diversification may not work... there was a term for it right? to describe over diversification
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"...over diversification.." = die-worsei-fication? tongue.gif

IMHO - diversification works well only for low-correlated sub-assets (ie within stocks/equity mutual funds/ETFs) or low/negative correlated assets (ie between Fixed Income vs Equities)
not just tabur "across mutual funds coz different mutual funds" sweat.gif

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post Aug 4 2016, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Aug 4 2016, 08:58 AM)
I obviously do not read enough financial literature to be able to quote famous people  tongue.gif
On your POV/argument, there are some merits, but in the basic economic theory, we learn that we have limited resources and therefore the idea is to deploy it to the area where we would gain the most (was it utility?)

So in this instance, you may get some advantages from having 2 small cap funds that may compliment each other a bit in terms of cushioning the fluctuation, but largely they would move in the same direction because they invest in the same market.

Based on what we've seen; the sharpe ratio is significantly more superior for EI small cap compared to CIMB small cap. So if you invest in these 2 funds equally instead of putting 100% in EI small cap, back test would show that you make a lot less. Of course no one can predict the future, but using historical data as a guide, the possibility of CIMB small cap performing at par or overperforming EI small cap is somewhat remote.

Then the question is, does the cost (lower returns) outweigh the benefit (fund house diversification)?
To me, the answer is no, not when both funds are in the same segment.

Diversification across different segment is a totally different topic though. Because the funds in each segment does not move in the same direction, in fact, some move in opposite direction. Then going back to the same cost benefit analysis, the cost is still lower returns, but the benefit is significantly lower portfolio volatility. The answer to me is, yes, it's worth the potentially lower returns, because the portfolio would be a lot more stable
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er.. academic BS coming:
Lower correlation may not equate to lower returns.
There's a very nice BUT long youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rTBEZSL7-4
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post Aug 4 2016, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 4 2016, 11:56 AM)
Fuyoh! The youtube vid is awesome!  bruce.gif  rclxm9.gif

Brings out my geekiness to the max!
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fellow geek, lend me your ear! tongue.gif
makes me hungry with all those "spices & food" laugh.gif
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post Aug 4 2016, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 4 2016, 03:58 PM)
nope did the transaction like monday morning
damn i am jealous! i donno if i am too late for the rat race man im 28 now and seriously thinking am i doing enough to capitalise on myself. I am doing everything by the book. 1/3 into house and car. 1/3 into savings/unit trusts and another remaining onto expenditures but it feels i am not doing enough.
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wah!
which book U read 1/3 into house & car?
unless your house & car MAKES $ for U (net net ya), those are just expenses wor
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post Aug 4 2016, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 4 2016, 04:07 PM)
the star actually. so far my calculations are okay. take home pay is around 7k after minus pcb and EPF.

can live comfortably but still not making alot of progress.
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try this instead:
1. Save >=30% of your net active income (excluding EPF) & 100% of your passive/investment income
OR
2. Save 30% of GROSS income including EPF - yup, 30% BEFORE tax

then U'll see a difference - give it 2 to 3 years
track your net worth & net worth LESS doodads
guaranteed smile.gif

Just to share, below was about 2 years after being nuked by a cut-loss decision (net worth bye bye >50%)
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VS current lately
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Notes:
1. Shared is purposely in % only. % are relevant whether earning $5K or $30K pm

2. U can see how my earlier months/years (36+) grew much faster than recent.
Thus, i think i need to find "ANOTHER" way or extra ways already - focusing on saving & investing only gives great results up to a point tongue.gif

3. Yes yes - i have kids too, not single.
Gave up on lots of "nice but useless stuff" to focus on priority.


PS - whoops - sorry Mods & Pinky, didn't notice i was replying to a FSM thread

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post Aug 11 2016, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 11 2016, 07:39 AM)
it is "easY' to just say it.
care to describe "smart diversify" here for all to share ?
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maybe better words to use "low correlated assets/sub-assets"
than diversify / DieWorseIffy laugh.gif
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post Aug 12 2016, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Aug 12 2016, 03:57 AM)
Where are you guys getting your data streams to do correlation and standard deviation calculations?
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hehe - correlation % freebies only since i'm kiamsiap
morning the star Xray for mutual funds & https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/asset-correlations for ETFs & stocks

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post Aug 13 2016, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Aug 12 2016, 04:46 PM)
This one got records for all funds offered in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(lukenn @ Aug 12 2016, 08:51 PM)
Aren't those denominated in USD ?
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er.. the MorningStar Xray thing has asia / MY mutual funds correlations shown

"the other one" (https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/asset-correlations) i use for US listed ETFs & stocks tongue.gif
"moving" house/focus - mixed-up sweat.gif notworthy.gif
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post Aug 16 2016, 03:46 PM

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adding fuel to fire:
aiya - both does't beat my flexi-mortgage's % & flexibility tongue.gif
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CMF no PIDM
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post Aug 25 2016, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 24 2016, 11:02 PM)
Try working for 8 years in the business and you know the 11 year old kid has 50 years of having a steel rod doing inside her or worst having the worst scoliosis at 60 degrees and daddy doesn't wanna pay because he says government sector can do while you look at their family history of heading to holidays and holding a spanking Samsung edge 7 and you come back to me saying I do not understand them.

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OT WARNING tongue.gif

Bro - i feel U.
Too many a times people bitchin about problem A
BUT don't see that they could easily solve it if it's a priority VS other "less warranted crap" ranting.gif

Painfully stupid - thus, sometimes, the less we care, the less pain is felt - unfortunately.
Try once, twice & if we just can't help steer them logically - bugger it. Some people "choose to be" & "deserves to be" where they are doh.gif
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post Aug 25 2016, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Aug 25 2016, 10:29 AM)
The RHB AM's ex-CIO is so powerful that after he left all the RHB MY eqt funds become worst performing funds?  confused.gif

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/r...-mid-cap-stocks

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So anyone gung-ho to pick up some of the funds that fell >10% already?
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give it -25% to -30%, i'll take a bite tongue.gif

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