takes a strong man to wear pink.

btw mainframe, excellent post.

I'm not LoTH member and just reading what is being typed here.

Casual Gamer vs. Hardcore Gamer discussion looks to be moving on from guild charter definitions to "trying-to-catch-LoTH-leaders-say-something-wrong-in-LYN". From what I see anyways. And if it's protecting the "little people" in in the guild, if you're not a member, I'm assuming that your views may not carry much weight or you have other reasons for pestering LoTH leaders here. Harsh reality but would be true, I would think.

At the end of the day, guild progression is about member's cooperation. The more they give to the guild community, the more they benefit from loot (ultimate aim anyways).

I also think for those of us who aren't in the guild to give Nitrofang and Tentris time to sort themselves out. We're human and will make mistakes.

This post has been edited by myremi: Feb 9 2007, 03:35 PM

I thought you already started playing? Since you're already replying some of the other threads on WoW. If you haven't started playing, it becomes a lot clearer on why are you asking these questions. Some of answers are easily answered or found in the WoW FAQs but you'll need to have played the game a bit.

WoW isn't just an MMORPG. It's a complicated MMORPG. It takes time to learn it and understand it. Hell, a lot of seasoned players are also still learning. You can't compare WoW to free MMORPGs because they aren't as complicated or straightforward. There is grinding yes but there's also intense planning involved when it comes to crafting, questing, instancing and raiding. You could compared it to other subscription based MMOs like Everquest, Vanquard that has complicated crafting systems.

By complicated, I mean that you have to sit down and STUDY and READ UP. It's common to spend a few days planning on what to do next if it gets complicated. Sure, I can understand you're impatient but if you're hoping for a forum posting answer that holds you by the hand, it's not going to happen. There's too many things to do in-game.

Like you, WoW isn't my first MMORPG but it definetely is one of the most time-consuming ones where the game rules changes with every major patch that comes out. Playing other MMORPGs will never prepare you WELL for another MMORPG anyways and I speak from experience.

In a nutshell, when it comes to WoW, you're looking at :

Leveling your character to 70 :
Use http://www.wow-pro.com . There are good leveling guides up till 70 for both Alliance and Horde. To level to 70, you'll have to read other sources or just do all the quests in Outlands. The guide is fast enough for solo leveling.

Building your Talent Build
Goto the WoW Class Forums e.g. Warlocks on Warlock Forums. Or goto the WoW site and click on the class links.

Instancing in 5-man Dungeons
Again, http://www.wow-pro.com for most of the Lvl60 and below dungeons. For Lvl 70 onwards, goto http://www.wowwiki.com or http://www.ampwow.com .

Professions
Goto the Profession Links on the WoW Website.

Raiding
Think about it after you've hit level 70. Why bother to research it now if you're not there yet? Don't try to rush it to 70 either else you'll get burned out very badly that you eventually quit the game.

PvP
There's strategies in the Class Forums about it. Go read.

Some common website sources :

http://www.thottbot.com
http://www.wowhead.com
http://http://www.ampwow.com
http://www.wowwiki.com

I would also suggest that when you post your questions, be more clear on what part of it you do not understand rather than giving generic questions over and over again. Because your questions seem repetitive when the answer would have been found in the links provided or the replies from people. The WoW website and forums have tons of information there as well as other websites with all the information that you're looking for.

Do not expect this game to be like a simple free-to-play grinding MMORPG. It's more diversified than that.

As for having a bad character, it's not too bad. You'll find that you'll eventually have to change your talent build anyways just to try different talent spells for various situations. If you're short of gold, go and grind on humanoids since they drop a lot of gold and cloth (which you can AH it).

I'm evil. Wanted to get bonto to start reading more.

Besides, he wanted a comprehensive answer so I gave him one that will let him find the answers.

I wanted to say more but decided to be a bit more nice.

Kidicarus, I'm so glad you answered because I totally have no idea on what it should be. When it comes to number crunching, urgh, don't look at me. Makes my head dizzy and painful.

deo, I just try to keep things as simple as possible. At the end of the day, I want to max out my damage output as much as possible. I focus more on that point rather than gear performance because it's easier to plan how to play better.

Stats
After level 50, I start focusing more on those green descriptions e.g. crit rating, attack power, heals, spell damage rather than STA, INT, AGI, etc. Those green description details usually gives more damage output than the white stats.

Equipment Level
I'm not sure how bad a nerf this is but I do keep one level40 item for druid tanking(Warden Staff). Haven't found a replacement yet but there should be a drop in one of the higher level instance. It doesn't seem to impact my performance much because of the talent points that's in my build as well as other performance stats from gear that I'm wearing.

Button Smashing Combination
Knowing what moves will give the most damage will be your staple. And you'll tend to be a better player when you're running with PUGs because u'll need to work harder at surprise mob aggro.

Try the game out first, like what we have been telling you for a long time now.

That question shows you haven't been going to some of the links we've been mentioning all these while. Nuff said.

There is a very very good Warlock Talent Guide with various Builds in the WoW Warlock forum. Go read.

Imagine speaking during an Onyxia raid. Suddenly there's total dead silence while you're speaking. LOL! 39 male players all suddenly stop whatever it is that they're doing.

This post has been edited by myremi: Feb 28 2007, 10:56 AM

How about a casual peon UD priest? Thinking of trying out PvP content but on a casual basis to pass time or when fedup.

Plus, to get that awesome siggy. Very pretty.

BTW, how are BE race so far? WIth their Mana Drain/Burn thing, are they strong PvP races for the various classes?

okie dokie. i'll apply tonite, hopefully no downtime or that it's going to be late.

what's your char name there seen? i'll look you up too.

am going to be a new n00b again. never played on pvp server and going to be ganked for sure. but what the hey.

This post has been edited by myremi: Mar 6 2007, 11:28 AM

hell, that means that the patch is going through or they're doing something else.

mad_geist and seen : hee hee. thx for the welcome but wait until I get there lar. I'm a very simple player. Anyway, just to join to be casual. Not serious. Have to manage 2 other chars on PvE. Met Quazecolt the other day in Searing Gorge, LOL!

Having played priest and druid, I prefer priest healing atm because fade and power shield are nice to have. Then again, I'm only respeccing to Resto once I got my Karazhan attunement done.

Mind you, this is in a PvE environment.

pretty siggy. i got one too but malu want to put up. all hordies buat bising afterwards seeing an ally siggy.

oh? i thought he was you becoz he turned around and wave at me. it was a 47 tauren i think. unless someone else on the forum is using that nick but oh well.

To be on the safe side, buy the full key that comes with 30-day subscription. Don't create the account with the trial keys.

It looks like there's a lockdown going on, on any trial account where players are not located in US, Australia, New Zealand or Singapore. They will probably trace based on your IP and ban the account in a few more days. Or they will trace from your credit card details.

running normal WoW (Azeroth) should be ok. not sure about the BC expansion since that one needs a lot of power.

as for FPS being slow, sometimes it's the connection so hard to say lah.

Hunters can be good DPS. My guild has a seriously good MM hunter that outDPS-es fire mages in pre-Karazhan gear. Much to the annoyance of the other guild mages. Hee hee...

Sorry haven't been online lately. Very hard with 2 many characters around.

This post has been edited by myremi: Mar 27 2007, 02:49 PM

I think that mage is critting 4.7K-4.9K with pyroblast atm. But again, pre-raid gear.

Although with every group that hunter has been in, he's topping all DPS. So he claims.

This post has been edited by myremi: Mar 27 2007, 05:06 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mkhx7mkMXa8

When you mentioned kids, I remembered this video.

This is one of the reasons why I don't like to join family guilds.