Hmm which MSI?

There are many SSD out there, M.2 is just the connector interface and it can either be SATA or PCIe based.

SATA, mSATA, SATA Express, PCIe SSD are some of the examples of SSD.

Hmm a bit confused, so you want mATX or mITX?

Performance is same between H110 and H170, they won't impact the performance, only less add-on features are provided by H110.

M.2 SATA is same as the old school SATA SSD but at smaller form factor, their speed is limited by SATA 3 (6Gbps). M.2 PCIe on the other hand is using PCIe interface (3.0 x4), theoretically the bandwidth provided is up to 32Gbps.

Remember that M.2 is just a connector interface, the actual implementation is depends on the technology used.

Manta is a mITX case while S340 is an ATX mid tower case, both are under different form factor.

Manta is expensive, one of the most expensive mITX cases out there in Malaysia, this will increase the total cost needed to build a rig.

If you were to spend RM 574 for a B150 mobo, I suggest you to go for H170 instead, RM 574 for a B150 is seriously overpriced (oh well almost all Asus products are overpriced in Malaysia due to its premium status), H170 with more features offered are far more valuable in terms of price/performance.

CPU cooler supported depends on the clearance available, usually mITX case comes with limited amount of space, so you need to make sure the 3rd party CPU cooler that you are going to get is able to fit in the case, same goes to the GPU, Manta is a mITX case so you need to check the clearance available before getting the GPU while S340 is a standard ATX size case so the max acceptable length will be much longer than Manta (should support most of the cards in the market).

There are 2 types of CPU cooler (air cooler and liquid cooler), air cooler is far more preferable because it is cheaper and safer than liquid cooler (no need to worry about liquid leakage). For locked CPU (non-overclockable), air cooler is enough because the temperature is very hard to hit the limit before throttle kicks in, liquid cooler will be overkill for your setup, unless you are going for aesthetic purpose.

Just get a single stick of 16GB RAM if you plan to upgrade to 32GB in the future, 16GB DDR4 is available now, no need to get 8GB x 2 anymore for 16GB RAM

Usually only mid/high end mITX/high end Z170/X99 mobo have the on-board WiFi card included, you can always get it externally as in PCIe WiFi card/USB WiFi card for WiFi connectivity.

Since you are going for S340, meaning you can choose ATX size mobo now (not limited to mITX only), so here is my recommendation, get Gigabyte H170-HD3 and a PCIe WiFi card, this combo will cost around RM 500 only.

You don't have to worry too much on the temperature, locked i5 cannot go that far away, average max load on stock cooler is only 75C, unless you have a very bad airflow (or no airflow at all), if you have a ceiling/stand fan then it will be fine.

Just use the stock cooler for the time being, if temperature is high or you aren't satisfied with it after you got your rig then only get a 3rd party cooler like CM TX3/CM Hyper 212X etc, but you need to check the clearance available before making the purchase.

Based on the build list, 450W is more than enough.

It is either PowerColor R9 270 or GTX950 (Palit and Zotac Single Fan version is priced very close to RM 600).

i5 doesn't consume much power (< 70W), as for non-gaming card, I assume you are going to get something that can handle more monitors so most likely low end card (75W - 150W) only, unless you get a high end card for rendering work etc.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 250
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1999
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 249
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 363
NZXT S340 - RM 320

Total: RM 5125 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Dell U2715H 2K WQHD IPS - RM 2265
Acer Predator XB281HK 4K UHD TN GSYNC - RM 2489

Yes, there are 2 versions in Malaysia, one with old school SATA interface, another one with M.2 interface and uses SATA controller (6Gbit/s limitation).

Protocols that power SSD:
1. SATA
2. PCI Express

Physical connectors:
1. SATA (the most common one, 6Gbit/s limitation)
2. mSATA (follows SATA spectifications, still limited by 6Gbit/s)
3. SATA Express (faster than SATA, 10Gbit/s per SATA Express SSD or 2 normal SATA SSD)
3. PCI Express SSD (rides on PCIe x2/x4 speed, up to 32Gbit/s, requires PCIe slot)
4. M.2 NGFF (new connector interface, supports both SATA and PCI Express specifications, actual technology implementation is decided by motherboard manufacturer and the chipset used)

Yea pretty much replaced by PCIe SSD, much faster.

This post has been edited by terence_nwb: Jul 7 2016, 05:13 PM

The build list you have currently is quite un-balance for RM 7500 budget, you opted for a super expensive Z170 mobo which I don't see any reason to pick it, if you were to spend so much for a Z170 mobo, you better off with X99, that's more worth in value.

Only certain brands have international warranty policy (eg. Asus/EVGA), for others, you will have to send back to Malaysia for warranty claim, why don't you buy in Indonesia, less hassle and faster too (no need to wait for custom clearance/potential delay to the parcel etc.)?

The below build list and price are based in KL area.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1289
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 250
Palit GTX970 8GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1999
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 249
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 363
Corsair Carbide 400C - RM 480
Dell UltraSharp U2417H - RM 1139

Total: RM 6424 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

There are 2 types of M.2 SSD, SATA based and PCIe based (you can check the difference online or refer to the few posts above), usually people go for M.2 SATA SSD due to its smaller size which fits well in small form factor build/laptop, if you are getting an ATX case, you can just pick the normal 2.5" SATA SSD, it's cheaper and have similar performance.

On the other hand, M.2 PCIe SSD is still very expensive, unless you have the money or you really want something that is very fast (few times faster than SATA SSD, but hard to notice in real life), then only go for this path, 120GB M.2 PCIe SSD costs nearly the same as an entry level 480GB SATA SSD now.

You can opt for an overclockable build since you have plenty of money left but it is recommended not to have the rig assembled by the shop before sending to you because there is always a risk of liquid leakage during the transit.

GTX1060 is coming soon and the estimated price of GTX1060 is around the price of GTX970, if you can wait then just wait for few more weeks.

Yes, reference model only for now though.

Value RAM = value, cheap, works on every system, for non-overclockers

Regular RAM = basically it is also counted as value RAM

Performance RAM = RAM with higher base clock, for example, the base clock of DDR4 is 2133MHz, so any RAM that has the speed beyond 2133MHz is considered as "performance RAM" and you need certain chipset (Z170 for Skylake) to take advantage of this "performance" RAM, otherwise it will be downclocked to the base clock, which makes it literally a value RAM afterall.

Dual channel (8GB x 2/4GB x 2 etc) is slightly faster than single channel (16GB x 1/8GB x 1 etc), but very hard to notice the performance difference in real life usage unless you carry out benchmark test on them.

Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 485
Asus H110M-K - RM 273
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 130
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
CM Elite Power 350W - RM 126
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 1342 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
MSI B150M Pro-DH (D4) - RM 346
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 130
Sapphire RX 480 8GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1299
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 153
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware F3 - RM 119
BenQ GW2270 - RM 379

Total: RM 3530 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

This build can fit the new GTX1060 (it is said to be faster than RX 480) as well but you have to wait for few more weeks though.

Reference model of RX 480 runs quite hot and with poor overclockability, if you are worried of these issues, please wait for non-reference model instead, should be arriving in next few weeks.

Or in conclusion, wait for GTX1060 to arrive here first before making any decision, otherwise if you rush to get everything now, you might regret later (high temperature of reference RX 480, better performance of GTX1060 etc).

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1295
Asus H110M-K - RM 292
GSKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 169
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 159
Asus DVD SATA ODD - RM 69
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149
TP-LINK TL-WN722N - RM 45
Windows 10 Home OEM - RM 249
Logitech Wireless Combo MK220 - RM 99

Total: RM 2745 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

Acer P166HQL 15.6" 720p - RM 249
Acer K192HQL 19" 720p - RM 299
Acer G206HQL 19.5" 900p - RM 339
BenQ DL2020 20" 720p - RM 329

Yes you can change to RX 480, but I still recommend you to wait for GTX1060 instead (or at least the review), RX 480 is basically a GTX970 in DX11 titles and GTX980 (or slight faster) in DX12 titles with much higher power consumption and runs hotter (with the current reference model, non-reference is yet to be figured out).

Drop the CPU cooler and opt for a better PSU instead, stock cooler works fine on a locked i5 (non-overclockable).

The multi-channel memory architecture in the current LGA1151 platform is dual channel while the higher end LGA2011 is able to support quad channel.

For example, lets say your LGA1151 mobo comes with 4 RAM slots and you have 4GB x 2 (total 8GB) RAM, you need to insert them according to the color pattern of the RAM slots to make it work in dual channel mode, if you have 4GB x 4 (total 16GB), they will be 2 dual channels running in your system.

Dual channel is slightly faster than single channel but it is very hard to notice in real life usage, my personal recommendation is go for at least a single stick of 8GB as minimum per slot.

If you want 8GB RAM, just get 1 x 8GB, don't care about the dual channel mode.

If you want 16GB RAM, either go for 2 x 8GB and run them in dual channel mode or 16GB x 1 in single channel mode, if your mobo only comes with 2 RAM slots (lower end mATX/mITX) then you better go for the second path which is 16GB x 1 so you can add another 16GB in the future when needed.

9k budget is very healthy, since you don't plan to get an overclockable rig, so 9k is quite overkill and potentially have a lot of balance left in the build list.

Just some comments on the your build, I guess you know what you are going to build and why you choose the specific parts/brands.

Asus H170 Pro Gaming - This is an overpriced mobo, I will go for low/mid end Z170 anytime with this price tag which gives me the ability to overclock the CPU and RAM (yes I know you don't have the plan to overclock but at least you can do that without changing the mobo next time when your task is getting heavier and requires a faster CPU & RAM).

Asus GTX1080 FE - Asus FE is more expensive than other brands (+ RM 100), I don't see any reason to go for it since it is basically the same across all the brands due to "FE" status, same clock speed, same design, same cooling solution etc, the only difference is the brands name and warranty length (Zotac's 5 years).

Corsair Hydro H100i v2 - Can be dropped completely, it is not needed in your build because the CPU is a locked CPU, stock cooler runs fine on locked i7, get a mid range air cooler to replace the stock cooler for better heat dissipation instead, there is always a chance of liquid leakage and I don't see any need to increase the risk in this build since air cooler will work just fine.

Case - Very subjective as it is tied to personal preferences, but since you have chosen an ATX mobo so you gonna look for mid tower/full tower ATX case, my favourite ATX cases are Corsair Carbide 400C/Air 540/Graphite 760T/FD Define R5 currently.

Good luck.

Need more info such as the games you play, rig specs and monitor resolution etc.

Depends on your budget and how much you can fork out if you need a top up on top of your current budget.

RX 480 new driver has been released to solve the power draw issue yesterday.

There is no doubt that the GTX980Ti is the best option out there, it even beats the GTX1070 when it is overclocked, but yea that's gonna need some top up if you are targeting to get a GPU with 1.4k budget (assuming you are aiming RX 480 initially).

GTX1060 seems promising but after all the fiasco from AMD RX 480 and the previous GTX970 VRAM issue, it is better to wait for review and local pricing before making the decision.

The games you listed don't need a high end GPU to run.

To save as much money as possible, you can get on board with last gen card such as new R9 380(X)/used R9 390/new GTX960/used GTX970 (below 1k), all of them work well with Dota 2 and other mid-end RPG

If you want to get a new GPU, then you can consider the new RX 480 or upcoming GTX1060 but they are quite overkill for Dota 2 and non-triple A titles TBH.