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post Sep 7 2017, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Sep 6 2017, 11:25 PM)
Hello, first time poster in this particular subforum.

I overheard my young relatives discussing about purchasing figmas and figurines (bootleg and otherwise). One of them is based in China and said the bootlegs are very close to the originals for a fraction of the price and he had amassed quite a collection.

This is not about ori vs bootlegs though, but someone suddenly asked "Well, how are you going to bring them back? Bootleg or not, you will be taxed, right?"

The look on his face made us laugh, but that raises a serious question.

Will you get taxed in Malaysia if you bring back your toys and figures, if you carefully repack them into their boxes?
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1. All figures and dolls, dressed or not, are not subject to import duty.

2. GST will be applicable if you exceed a certain amount of value, usually RM500 but im not sure if this limit has been changed. This applies both to shipments or when you hand carry/bring back your loots from Japan on a flight.

3. It is possible to evade being taxed at an airport when you bring back stuff, but that will depend on luck sometimes. For me since im from penang i tend to take transits to penang via KL, my last flight being a domestic one so domestic flights are being overlooked by kastam. But if you carry several large luggage a single person you might raise suspicions. Direct flight between Penang to certain foreign countries like HK do exist, but i usually avoid taking direct flights in case i bring back a large loot.

4. One more way to evade tax, is to buy your stuff in japan, pack into several separate shipping carton boxes and ship them back via EMS or Registered SAL, where you do the following:
- cut off the seals of your figure boxes, but you don't have to open it
- declare content of box as "used toys"
- underdeclare value
- ship one box on each separate day, instead of all in one go
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^ This one my friend shipped RM4k worth of figures back also didnt kena.

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post Sep 7 2017, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Ryutaro @ Sep 7 2017, 08:53 PM)
o.O even with that price?! is that the power of LLer?
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Love Live is by Bandai/sunrise too actually, the same companies behind the Gundam franchise
So, they are actually experts at milking rich and blind fanboys and fangirls

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post Sep 12 2017, 07:48 PM

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I ended up preordering that new Saeki Ai 18sx figure
fk me ...

I already have so many preorders to deal with
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Sep 15 2017, 02:33 AM)
I shouldn't have looked, now I feel I'm falling into a pit. It's like I've discovered a whole new world... An expensive world.
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post Sep 16 2017, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Sep 15 2017, 10:27 AM)
Even bootleg stuff is pricey though (relatively). I see Figmas for USD15-25 on AliExpress and the negative reviews can be really negative. Perhaps the price is actually even lower, but jacked to secret include shipping (they advertise as Free Shipping). Otherwise how do they earn a profit...

Maybe it's because I don't understand the production process, but I find it difficult to see how the pricing is made for these toys (whether original or bootleg). From pictures, the Play Arts figures look nice but they seem to be double or triple the price I'm willing to pay for. Then again, maybe it's because I've never seen or held one yet, and in my mind I still see them as "toys" instead of "works of art".
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Usually, if the figure is cheaper by 20-30% or more in a local shop compared to the official recommended retail pricing, you can always suspect something is not right. Every figure has a MSRP price, you can check it online. If that figure is priced at 12,800yen (a tad bit over RM500), and you see RM3xx local pricing, which is still a lot of money, it is most likely a bootleg. You will only find massively discounted price like these, from 500 down to 300+ in Japan (including online japanese shops). It is best to avoid AliExpress and Taobao if you are inexperienced - there are actually a lot of genuine figures in Taobao. You have to read descriptions carefully - the sellers don't really lie. Buyers get "cheated" mainly because the buyers either don't read item description in detail, or they don't understand the description in the first place.

For those who can read Chinese, terms you should know:
正版 = genuine
正品 = genuine
日版 = genuine (literally, "japanese version")

正版散货 = product was genuine but boxless. Was.
1. If it was originally an expensive scale figure, usually they are quality rejects straight from the factory, but people sell them at a way lower price closer to bootleg pricing. Actually a genuine item but will have paint issues, scratches, etc. Depends. In short, it is a genuine figure with original sculpt but with bootleg quality paintjob, sometimes with missing optional parts - good option for those who have skills in painting/repairing figures or you just wanted to practice painting. Otherwise you should avoid.
2. If it was a genuine prize figure + boxless, most likely it is a displayed-in-shop unit. You may purchase if the seller provided pictures of the actual item if you don mind having no box.

初国版 = bootleg
国产 = bootleg (literally, "locally manufactured")
国产/初国优质版 = high quality bootleg

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post Sep 17 2017, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Sep 16 2017, 09:25 PM)
How reasonable are the prices in AliExpress when making comparisons (taking account of shipping, which AliExpress claims to be free)? Are their quoted prices (examples to show price variance): figmas USD15 (Kirito)- 25 (Gilgamesh), Play Arts USD38 (Deadpool), Sephiroth (USD50) reasonable for being bootlegs?

Edit: I'm not trying to promote bootlegs, just curious after having my interest sparked. I'm the type that gets overly obsessive about knowing stuff once I'm interested. I've made other purchases from AliExpress (after being annoyed with Lazada, and since the same stuff is also shipped from overseas and same pricing...) and curious about the wide range of anime-related goods/toys often promoted there. Recently I was intrigued by an Android-powered console emulator but begged off once I realize it would be subject to import tax.
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Usually the free shipping is for domestic only. They includes their sister company taobao and tmall where some sellers mention free shipping. I don't know how the shipping system in aliexpress works, but in taobao and tmall, they ship the item to a warehouse, and from the warehouse Skynet or any other courier in charge will ship it over to Malaysia. So, you can actually buy several items from different sellers, where all arrive at the same warehouse, and then u combine ship all as one single package.

So there are two payments -
payment 1 = item price + domestic shipping from seller to warehouse (which might be free depending on seller)
Payment 2 = International shipping cost from warehouse to your doorstep. 1st kg is between 23 to 26 yuan, and then the costs go up after that. Volumetric weight calculation will apply if your parcel is too big.

However, from what i know, Aliexpress is more of a middleman than a seller. Meaning they usually don't sell one single item, u need to order at least 10 units. If they do sell one single item only unlikely you will get benefits like lower price point or free shipping.

As for customs and taxes, my experience with taobao - so far not even once. My highest purchase record was rm900 or so but i wasnt taxed.

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post Sep 17 2017, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Sep 17 2017, 05:34 PM)
Your description about Taobao charges is accurate. I actually have a singular experience with Taobao, I bought the Transformers Matrix of Leadership via ezBuy. Unfortunately the item arrived without its stand, but ezBuy managed to negotiate a 1/3 refund for me. Everything else worked very well though, and I managed to light many a darkest hour.

But the entire experience made me feel completely helpless as I am entirely dependent on ezBuy to conduct the transaction and negotiations after I have made my order.
Ah, I think you have confused AliExpress with Alibaba. Aliexpress is for b2c (business to consumer) and they are willing to sell and ship in single units.

The reason I ask about bootleg prices is because they list figmas (USD13-25) and play arts (USD50~) at the prices I mentioned previously and often say "free shipping"; I'm not sure the 'free shipping' is really free or they simply calculated the cost into the product's price.

Alibaba is the b2b (business to business) version and often they would ask for a minimum order of 1000, though there are some who would put sell one unit, and usually at the same pricing and terms as AliExpress. Unfortunately the single units offered are often the same products already advertised in AliExpress, and usually the ones unavailable in AliExpress are the ones that require the said 1000 minimum order from Alibaba.

More on AlieExpress (not anime goods specific):

I moved to AliExpress if the thing I want to buy from Lazada is listed as "shipped from overseas", because that is usually where they got it from anyway lol. The pricing is about the same but AliExpress has a much more intuitive and robust customer protection system. In Lazada I can't even message the seller directly, and in the Q&A section you're not even allowed to put in a sequence of numbers (eg, your order number) to ask the seller for a follow up because the Lazada website thinks you're putting your phone number and 'helpfully' prevents you from posting it.

AliExpress is a middleman and very powerful one at that, they will only release money to the seller after the buyer has acknowledged receipt. Even after that, you can still put in a dispute and get your money back. I had a case of fraud: the seller gave a fake tracking ID and I put in a dispute. Even though at first glance someone might say "according to courier tracking, someone received the goods", I managed to convince AliExpress that it wasn't me (with help from PosLaju) and got my money back. The seller got his store erased from AliExpress.

I'm going to buy a bootleg figma as a test, I'll let you guys know how it goes in 3 weeks.
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Lazada is total shitte
It is the last place i would want to buy things from, half of their inventory does not exist - they ship from China

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QUOTE(sheushen @ Sep 21 2017, 07:54 PM)
Wow! She got pushed to December. T.T
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Good news for my wallet tho

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QUOTE(Ryutaro @ Sep 25 2017, 08:38 PM)
anyone want to preorder anastasia? thinking of doing combine shipping

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gc...033594&page=top
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I ordered ady the moment the link went up
but im in penang anyway
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My latest work, Phat Company's Jibril from No Game No Life.
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Latest photography work, Max Factory's Ikumi Mito

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post Nov 26 2017, 12:21 PM

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Latest photography work: A diorama/replica of Fate Stay Night Heaven's Feel movie poster.

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post Nov 28 2017, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(WingNut @ Nov 27 2017, 09:46 AM)
nice... although me thinks the primary light source should be from above? the berries shadow cast on the dress suggests that the primary lightsource is coming from the left of the camera?
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QUOTE(Ryutaro @ Nov 27 2017, 07:30 PM)
I hold the opposite opinion I think that the lighting should be more dim as heaven feel is actually a pretty sad arc (if I din remember wrongly)
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The light above is indeed the brightest, following the law of nature where sunlight is brightest, but since this is a photography product, the laws of portrait photography should not be broken - background should not be brighter than the main subject (unless we are talking about intentional artistic effects such as making the main subject totally black/in shadow, with a bright background). So i raised the brightness of Sakura with fill lighting until it's just enough, as the main subject especially the face she should not be too dark. The sides and corner are indeed made to be dark to make it seem like the light is only coming in from above.

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QUOTE(WingNut @ Nov 29 2017, 09:08 AM)
don't get me wrong. exkurogane... i understand where you're coming from and it is indeed an awesome setup/photo. it's the berry shadow upon the skirt that gives the impression that the strongest light source is coming from somewhere to the left of the camera. would've been perfect without that shadow cast. then again, i'm no expert  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(hayrol @ Nov 28 2017, 11:37 PM)
Great photo. The figure look pretty impressive, even it was prize figure.

It's been a while I'm visiting this thread.
Anyway, the pre-order figure began to killing my passion on this hobby. The sudden delay & wait really makes me think again to place my order.
Maybe I just wait & just buy at the time it will release, even it will be a bit expansive.

And none of new figure really attract me to buy them. sad.gif
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Yes, nowadays from late 2017-2018 period waiting is 9-12 months. The reason is because a lot of existing figure preorders are running behind schedule. Lots of GSC and Alter figures, both, have been getting an average 2 to 4 months delays at least.

For me Im cutting down my figure orders by half from 2018 onwards because i ordered a new camera to take my figure photography to the next level.
This camera costs RM14,496 for the body only sweat.gif
Nikon D850. Full frame, 45.7 megapixels.
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New figure photos, Max Factory's 1/6 Yuuki Mikan

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post Jan 14 2018, 09:09 PM

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Alter in general intentionally prices things higher than usual for items them know will sell. Love Live and Idolmaster figures' ludicrous pricing are often being blamed on the "Idol tax". Not necessarily because the licensing was expensive, but the prices were jacked because they are idol characters. At least Alter never disappoints in quality.

However I can certainly see SAO and FGO stuff being priced at a premium just because of their popularity. For this reason I'm scared of what the price of Alter's 1/7 Avenger Jeanne Alter will be. I'm predicting as high as up to 25,000yen. Anywhere between 20k to 25k. The prototype is not even painted yet and it already looks like a masterpiece.
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QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Jan 17 2018, 01:40 AM)
Actually maybe kena tahan already... the tracking status change to "Item en route to" half hour ago. I do hope it's actually en route to local poslaju depot instead of en route to Kastam storage.
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I don't think one person can be so unlucky to kena kastam a few times. From what i know it's rare lah, but you are indeed attracting attention of you go for giant ones. My largest xxx figures are only 1/6 scale
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QUOTE(skinny-dipper @ Jan 19 2018, 07:46 AM)
Anyone bought the previous version jibril? Would like to know the roughly shipping cost.

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gc...036430&page=top
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I used EMS (which few people use). It was somewhere between 2700 to 3300yen from what I remember.
SAL parcel could be anywhere between 2300 to 2700yen. Box is quite big. Given the small margin differences of only a few hundred yen that's why i went for EMS.

Will not fit Air small packet (which is available for certain items).
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QUOTE(skinny-dipper @ Jan 19 2018, 03:28 PM)
Sweet. Gonna check nippon yasan rate then decide whr to Po.

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NipponYasan's EMS rates always start at 2700yen. But sometimes if they underestimate they will ask u to pay additional 200, 300yen later on.

This is why for figures with small box i recommend buying from amiami (it's not as high as 2700yen if you use ems. Sometimes it's only 2300yen). For those who dont use EMS, amiami has the cheaper air small packet, nipponyasan's Sal parcel always start from 2100yen (for scales). For big box figures, it's wiser go with nipponyasan. You can even request for underdeclare. Big boxes attract kastam attention but if declared value is lower it will be passed on without getting taxed.
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QUOTE(skinny-dipper @ Jan 19 2018, 04:15 PM)
nippon yasan EMS 3800 yen  shocking.gif ... but figure is 1000 yen ++ cheaper
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Like that one la, some place shipping expensive some place cheap. But actually when u total up with figure price it's more or less the same everywhere. I checked back my order in NY, i paid 3200yen for shipping back then.


QUOTE(Ryutaro @ Jan 19 2018, 05:37 PM)
man this kahotan throwing poison on me really makes me feel like buying the Jeanne d' Arc figurine 

the only problem i see now is the release date is next year February  shocking.gif shocking.gif
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late release date is always a good thing rclxms.gif

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