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post May 16 2016, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(cunnilinguist @ May 16 2016, 07:46 PM)
Any big-ticket purchase from russia is put on hold until some kind of answer (whatever it might be) and closure is provided regarding the MH-17

I don't think the rakyat really care, but problem is that  politicians would spin it around and the macais would swallow it all; hook, line and sinkers.
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U are putting too much hope on that

I highly doubt ppl will start protesting why we go russian just because of mh17. Malaysia easily forget.

Though some macai may be making noise but it will be like a dog barking at a wall. Majority of malaysia does not bit care just what is the cost. From whom is the least of the issue

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post May 17 2016, 02:55 PM

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Look like a total write off.

Wing section torn off upon impact. Though can salvage for sparr parts
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post May 17 2016, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Gregyong @ May 17 2016, 02:50 PM)
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I honestly would have bet it was them MiG29s considering their airframe....... laugh.gif
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Just so u know exceed air frame hour does not mean the plane is not flyable.

It just tat they are not as safe to fly as to when to they are first delivered. Plus, more maintenance required

The marine still fly their f18 despite exceed recommended airnframe hour.
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post May 21 2016, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ May 21 2016, 04:51 PM)

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more interested in this. 2 in one (MPA and AWECS) laugh.gif

SG not getting this upgrade?
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post May 24 2016, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 24 2016, 09:43 AM)
good for RMAF getting few unit too, but seems price also high, UAE order 2 Global 6000 Erieye for $1.27b, maybe include some RnD cost because new plane, at the end still at lease $500m per-plane, about same price to B737 AEW MESA.
other issue is support,
all major private jet company Embraer, Gulfstream, Bombardier, Dassualt service center all in Singapore. seem setup a service center just for 3-4 jet seem not so realistic.
still personal think use A319LR install Erieye AEW system much more logic, since our we have Airbus service center in KLIA. also RMAF operate CJ319and CJ320 for VIP, so much easy for pilot arrangement & training and maintenance.
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Someone have to pay for the integration cost instead of a ready product.

I doubt even offered, will get the most also 2 biji saja.
4 biji is a blessing already.

It offered together with the gripen deal so it might not be tat real exp. UAE was including additional integration cost etc etc.
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post May 24 2016, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(cunnilinguist @ May 24 2016, 06:24 PM)
I would prefer this though

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The issue is the electronic component are from zeonist.

Through raf does not really mind, public sentiment make take effect on eventual selection
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post May 24 2016, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ May 24 2016, 07:40 PM)
so damn kek lar
even Great Muslim Ottoman Empire whistling.gif Turkey do trade and military deal with Israel, but over here close eyes, jari sumbat telinga "lalalala i can't hear you death to juice" doh.gif
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It something started from mahathir time

Somehow it blown out of proportion till everything is anti israel. A same however when we can get alot of goodies if we budy budy with them like jordon


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post May 26 2016, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(RobUlstan @ May 26 2016, 02:21 PM)
I have a question for you more expert guys regarding AEW aircrafts - what is the most important capability that these kind of aircraft should have? I don't mean the electronics but the aircraft itself.

From what I can deduce these aircraft are not going to be on the frontline fighting so speed, maneuverability, etc. would no be that important. Wouldn't it be range and loitering time/endurance?

Seems the aircraft itself not that important as long as there is a suitable platform to put all the electronics in the air.

In that case, would not something like an airship be better?

Appreciate any input.
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Long endurance, smaller size normally equate smaller mantainance requirements.

What those aew need is endurance and space to put all the electronics. So it a bargain of either side. More space mean more advance thing can put in plus also for crew comfort.

U dont want to be in a sardine can right?
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post May 26 2016, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ May 26 2016, 04:17 PM)
9hrs not counting air to air refuel?

Btw y  don't consider modern long haul jets like 787 or 777 they can fly  up 14/15 hrs
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Flight time does not equal to loiter time.

They are not cheap one, second no one want to pay for put all those equipment onto a new jet. All the rearrangment to do again.

Structural strengthening for all those on board equipments. Power requirements for addition equipment mean modification to the APU.

Basically, no that it cant be done is just the matter who want to pay for it

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