That's why I said hv to wait till 10min to confirm. It's like that ever since I got the car in 2011. Only after i double tinted, I managed to reduce to 5 min

Rm58k to trade off. Reason: getting huge discount on year end sales for camry hybrid. And my current far away work place incurred too much of $$ on fuel.

Since replying in sonata thread, it reminded me to recheck my sun roof. I was surprised to find this. I really wonder how it broke off just like that. Probably already broke at the hand of an angry korean man in the assembly line. At first thought it's rubber lining. Now check properly, it's actually plastic that somehow broke in half, resulting in rattling. Rattling sound reduced a bit with some diy but planning to find a piece of plastic that would fit the gap and glued it down.