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post Apr 9 2011, 12:45 AM

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Use splitter or fan controller.

This one is splitter or Y-adapter.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ind...oducts_id=28414

OR directly connect to PSU:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ind...products_id=603
cant control the fan if use this, unless you mod the splitter.
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post Apr 10 2011, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ Apr 9 2011, 01:08 AM)
how much is the selling price of splitter or Y-adapter? directly connect to psu must b very loud? i guess the 1st method is better.

i decided to put 1mo fan at front panel, bottom i put exhaust, ok rite?
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The splitter is very cheap, cheaper than a fan controller that is tongue.gif
Directly connect to PSU not loud, the fan will run at Maximum rated power. yeah its loud, any fan speed higher than 1200rpm mean loud for me sweat.gif
If i recall it correctly, Asus mobo can control the fan speed for each fan header, while Gigabyte only one, CPU fan header doh.gif

IF the fans total ampere too high(most mobo only support 1A, MSi support up to 3A iirc.) for your mobo you will need to use the method below:
You can mod the splitter, Black wire connect to PSU, Red and Yellow connect to MOBO fan header.
all you need is just something sharp like needle or knife to push the clip from the connector(the silver thingy), press the silver clip and pull the wire slowly, dont use force else the clip will be left inside.
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Image source: SPCR

Yeah you could try various configuration and see if its suits you. remember too much exhaust fan and if they are running at full speed, dust will enter your casing very easily.
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post Apr 11 2011, 06:15 PM

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Depend on the fans rated Ampere, most fan maker will put the info on the fan's sticker.
Most cheap pc fan usually are 0.1A to 0.3A, server fan will eat alot power, 1A to 3A and may be higher.

You can calculate the power yourself, eg 1A 12VDC fan = 12Watt.
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post May 16 2011, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ May 14 2011, 11:29 AM)
isnt pwm fans were made for bios temp control on mobo's??
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PWM controlling may be more precise, although we still can use normal 3 pins fan, and mobo nowadays already support controlling the fan via PWM or Voltage.
Fan that support PWM controlling is quieter because it can go down to very low RPM, eg 600rpm at idle, even high ampere fan also can do that,

But controlling via voltage has limitation, the fan wont spin if the voltage provided by mobo too low at idle, or when start up the computer, eg 5V. high ampere fan will be noisy even at 5V.
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post May 17 2011, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(Oyaji @ May 16 2011, 08:36 PM)
excalibur review

in forum

some of the review & forum posts.

btw, just curious, can a PWM fan be used with fan controller? hmm.gif
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Only if the fan controller support control pwm fan, or if the fan controller is rheostat-based, controlling by voltage.
RPM/3pin controlling wont work, the pwm fan will spin at full speed.

example of fan controller http://www.sunbeamtech.com/PRODUCTS/Rheosmart/6.html
http://www.zalman.co.kr/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=341
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post May 17 2011, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ May 17 2011, 10:34 AM)
Hi, i haven receive my answer  rclxub.gif , if stack like this fine?
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You can stack as long as you want. sweat.gif
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post May 17 2011, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ May 17 2011, 02:36 PM)
haha, because i afraid stack too much like overdrive, if i stack to 5 fans like a long stick still ok? for better cable management.
what do you mean over drive?
i control 6 fans by only using one fan splitter, 2x 1.3A, 4x 0.75A, total 60W if the fan spin at fullblast rclxms.gif
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post May 21 2011, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(lingloong @ May 21 2011, 02:17 AM)
Which Enermax fan you guys think is da best?  hmm.gif

http://www.enermax.com/home.php?fn=eng/product_a&lv0=4

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Vega duo or Trio? sweat.gif
never tried enermax fan though sweat.gif


Added on May 21, 2011, 2:33 am
QUOTE(881118 @ May 20 2011, 02:58 AM)
i just tested artic f12, xigmatek xlf 120mm, and my old vizo starlet 120mm

side by side, use hand to feel

i feel the vizo starlet airflow is much higher than the f12 n xigmatek
if (i can much stronger wind blowing at my hand)
if vizo is 100%, den f12 is around 70% while the xigmatek is 30%

i dunno about the static pressure thing, but i m totally shocked with this result
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depend on RPM? higher rpm = higher airflow and static pressure + noise,
of course also depend on the fan blades design, thickness, dimension too.

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post Jul 27 2011, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(NoobHacker @ Jul 26 2011, 08:38 PM)
Decided to go for Scythe S FLEX series fan
RM20 cheaper and only produces some more air noises compare to Scythe GT
Dun wan 140mm fan anymore because if i use 140mm fan they will blow wires only rclxub.gif
Scythe S FLEX uses sony fluid bearing
Scythe GT uses sleeve bearing or two ball bearing if i m not wrong

S FLEX wins GT at motor noise and GT wins S FLEX at air woshhh noise
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GT use dual ball bearing, not cheapo sleeve bearing, i doubt anyone would by such expensive fan which only could last for 30k hours if GT use sleeve bearing doh.gif

Btw dont quite understand your last sentence,
SFLEX win GT motor noise? GT is quieter even at full speed, 1850rpm but lower CFM(60) compare to SFLEX G(1900rpm, 72cfm but f--king loud at full blast), many ppl said GT has higher static pressure.
SFLEX F, 1600rpm has similar CFM but its still noisy to my ears lol.
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post Jul 27 2011, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(trisx @ Jul 27 2011, 11:02 AM)
scythe gt 60 cfm only? which fan got over 100cfm in 120mm size.
other than delta. any recommendation?
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Sauce:
http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/acc/051/...1ap_detail.html
98 cubic meter per hour = 57.7 cubic feet per minutes, aka CFM.

there are many fans airflow are over 100CFM but mostly are thick fan, 38mm, or large fan hub.

AVC fans? i got 4 of them running on my casing, 2800rpm max, 120x120x25mm, CFM sure over 100 but its noisy + high ampere.
dun really remember the model name as they are quite long sweat.gif

Btw thick fan are more suitable to use as heatsink fan as the fan hub is smaller, less dead spot on heatsink unless you wanna install the fan shroud, but will make the fans more thicker LOL.
fan with big hug only can use as casing fan. imho.

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post Jul 28 2011, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Jul 28 2011, 11:59 AM)
AVC 120mm

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The Picture from this seller : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/938168
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0.35A is low speed version, plus this one is only 3 pin.
Mine are this http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10544577326
here are the translated spec:
Dimensions: 120mmX120mmX25mm
Bearing Type: TWO BALL
MTBF: 50000 hours
RPM: 3300
Airflow: 107.49 CFM
Noise: 46.5 dB(A)(PWM max temperature)
Voltage :12V DC
Ampere: 0.75 A
Wattage: 9.0 W
Connector type: 4pin
Fan speed monitoring: supported
cable length: 28 cm
net weight: 175 g

I own quite alot rare fans actually tongue.gif
Btw the RPM on spec is not accurate though, i have 4 of them, they only can max out at 2800RPM, one of them only can spin at 2500rpm.

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post Nov 1 2011, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 31 2011, 05:08 PM)
lol...i just want to ask if stacked fan will increase CFM and static pressure, now ask me to buy new casing sweat.gif
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Only increase static pressure:
http://www.nmbtc.com/fans/engineering/multiple-fan-use.html
no airflow increased.
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post Nov 9 2011, 11:55 PM

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I own 2 of the AP 141 fans too, 14cm version, the airflow is very weak(63cfm) despite running at maximum speed, 1500rpm, of course its very noisy(cause placed behind the restrictive fan grills) plus the vibration noise = super loud.(thanks to my lousy flimsy cm690)

cannot use as intake fan because the airflow will be reduce further if use with dust filter...
duno about the airspeed...
prolly still usable if your casing still have plenty of space that still can put one or 2 of these silverstone AP fans, to push the hot air out of your casing.

Get a good casing, and some good fans, install them with correct position is the way to go.
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post Dec 27 2011, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(abang @ Dec 27 2011, 05:21 PM)
Guys, need recommendation here.

Need fan with the highest cfm for pc case exhaust fan.

no need led, fancy2.
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Highest CFM? no noise limit?
buy this, http://www.itocp.com/htmls/19/n-3219-4.html
Nidec Beta V, you will become deaf for a while after you power up your pc with that fan installed, and after that noise shouldnt be a problem sweat.gif

If your casing can install 2 140mm fan on top as exhaust then you probably dont need high CFM fan.

A couple 1600 or 2000 RPM 120x25mm fan is enough, 60CFM to 90CFM, any higher you will need 140mm fan else the noise would be a problem since smaller fan always produce more fan noise than large fan.
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post Dec 27 2011, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(abang @ Dec 27 2011, 10:29 PM)
if like that my current cm 90cfm fan is good enough. im using cm silencio 550. only one exhaust. laugh.gif thanks yo
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cm 90cfm is fake one, especially the CFM rating lol, there are alot of better fans out there, Scythe and Arctic, for example.
Buy a better casing, CM690 aint bad too, if you want to keep your pc cool and quite.
buy 2 cheap 140cm fan as top exhaust guarantee will improve the casing ventilation. bottom and side panel as intake.
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post Mar 14 2012, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(kherel77 @ Mar 14 2012, 01:23 AM)
Looking for 120mm Green LED with PWM function. Most of top brand only carry red & blue. Any recommendation fellow LYN'er~?
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Gelid fan :http://www.gelidsolutions.com/products/index.php?lid=1&cid=2&id=56
Rare fan,
Or the most expensive one, non-pwm though: http://www.enermax.com/home.php?fn=eng/pro...4&lv1=38&no=126 sweat.gif
even more expensive than my 260cfm san ace fan LOL
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post Apr 15 2012, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(WiseguyOPPA @ Apr 15 2012, 04:41 PM)
Just got two deltas today
Purrs like a kitten :3
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whats the ampere of the fans?
and how do you control it? tongue.gif
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post Apr 15 2012, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(WiseguyOPPA @ Apr 15 2012, 05:31 PM)
I used lamptron fc9.... supposedly provides 50w per channel but the fans have some trouble starting up. have to fiddle abit with both or one by one to coax the beasts awake... then they can go max with no problem ^^
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Well yeah, lamptron fan controller control fan by voltage, not pwm, thats why your fan had problem to starting up tongue.gif
High ampere fan usually will not start to spin untill they were supplied with enough voltage, eg 7V.
if controlled by pwm signal they will spin even at the lowest speed(but they still noisy though).
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post Apr 16 2012, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(WiseguyOPPA @ Apr 15 2012, 06:53 PM)
Hmm?

Well with just a little tweaking I could still get the two to spin fast but silent... the airflow feels like 140mm nzxt stock at 1500 rpm
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You didnt get my points sweat.gif
Eventually you will feel tired with fan noise lol, i used to control all the fans with fan controller, but over time it become hassle cause need to control manually tongue.gif
Now all my fans are controlled by mobo, i have 2 fan controllers, one is for testing fan only, the other Lamptron is collecting dust doh.gif
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QUOTE(mrteeheetummytums @ Aug 16 2012, 07:21 PM)
Thanks for the info. I have to ask though what is PWM? I also have been looking at the scythe gentle typhoon, it looks likes a really quite fan. Now i just have to decide between these two. The 140mm I'll probably go with the bitfenix spectre
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PWM = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-width_modulation
many fan maker will advertise their pwm fan as "quietest", because pwn fan can spin at lowest speed, compare to 3 pins fan, which are controller by voltage.
for example i have 2 delta fan, one is 3 pin and a pwm version.
if both fan speed are controlled by cpu fan software/bios, when your cpu is idle, pwm fan can go as low as 800 rpm(depend on model), and it does not have "cold-start" problem tongue.gif
while voltage controlled fan cannot do that, it will spin at at least 1500rpm(high ampere fan only lol) or higher to prevent the fan stopped spinning, some fan will simply stalled cause not enough voltage. and some 3 pin fan usually dont spin(eg noctua flx-p14), until your mobo/cpu warmed up(depend on start up voltage, and how you configure the fan setting via bios/software).

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