High dose IV vitamin C therapy doesn't exactly ''cure'' cancer.

It will however, likely shrink the tumors, extend his lifespan, along with
improving his quality of life and reducing the toxic effects of chemotherapy.

In some cases though, the patient recovers fully.

http://www.canceractive.com/commonFiles/do...SE-VITAMINC.pdf


Hugh Riordan in his treatment center in Wichita, Kansas,
was one of the pioneers of this protocol.


https://riordanclinic.org/what-we-do/high-dose-iv-vitamin-c/

http://www.cancertutor.com/vitaminc_ivc/

http://intravenousvitaminc.blogspot.my/200...esearchers.html


http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ca...r-69948082.html




The protocol has been studied by the Koreans and Japanese.


High-Dose Vitamin C Promotes Regression of Multiple
Pulmonary Metastases Originating from Hepatocellular Carcinoma.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4541681/


=
High-dose Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) Therapy in the
Treatment of Patients with Advanced Cancer.

http://ar.iiarjournals.org/content/29/3/809.long



High-Dose Intravenous Vitamin C Combined with Cytotoxic
Chemotherapy in Patients with Advanced Cancer:
A Phase I-II Clinical Trial.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4388666/



Intravenously administered vitamin C as
cancer therapy: three cases.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1405876/



Phase I clinical trial to evaluate the safety, tolerability,
and pharmacokinetics of high-dose intravenous ascorbic
acid in patients with advanced cancer.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3691494/


You could ask the Burmese doctor, Dr Maung Ebrahim, if he
has this treatment. He practices at the Amcorp Mall.

http://www.academycmt.com/











This post has been edited by Tham: Feb 27 2016, 04:31 AM

Do your homework before making such ill-informed remarks.

Common sense will tell you that drinking 15 grams is light years
away from putting 100 grams directly into your blood.

A Phase I Trial of High-Dose Ascorbate
in Glioblastoma Multiforme.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01752491




Ascorbic acid: Chemistry, biology and the treatment of cancer ☆

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3608474/



Antiproliferative effect of ascorbic acid is associated with
the inhibition of genes necessary to cell cycle progression.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2634969/



High concentrations of L-ascorbic acid specifically inhibit the growth
of human leukemic cells via downregulation of HIF-1a transcription.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3633866/



Intravenous Vitamin C as Cancer Therapy.

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v07n03.shtml



Ascorbic acid derivatives as a new class of antiproliferative molecules.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23791877



Hugh Riordan's IV C Protocol.

I think I still have his original protocol which he faxed to me
some 20 years ago kept somewhere.

http://www.doctoryourself.com/RiordanIVC.pdf


The Riordan IVC Protocol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04cOSwZ43II



Riordan Clinic: Dosing IVC for Cancer Patients.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTW9x91RWnY



Riordan Clinic: IVC Case Studies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmr1qsRt8BE



Intravenous Vitamin C - The Riordan Protocal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjHjdc_tBuU



Vitamin C - Alternative Cancer
Treatment at Oasis of Hope Hospital.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU_l7KDA3aU



''How Vitamin C Fights Cancer. ''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PI_rKuQWiE



'' What Really Causes Cancer
(and What You Can Do to Prevent It). ''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyxHUO5MF6o




This post has been edited by Tham: Feb 29 2016, 05:35 AM

You are very naive and extremely ill-informed.

How old are you ? 35 ?

Judging by how your write, it is evident you know little and
this is all very new to you.

IV C has been in use by integrated and alternative cancer centers
in the US, Tijuana, Switzerland and worldwide for over two decades.


Have you even corresponded with its pioneers like the late Hugh Riordan ?

Do you know how to use Medline and interpret studies ?

These are ''anecdoctal reports'', ''non-academic'', ''commercial links''
and ''very little hard evidence'' ?

Did you misplace your glasses or is your IQ below 10 ?

I'm quite sure you haven't bothered to read them (or rather,
don't have the IQ to understand them, so you ''conveniently''
brused them aside).


Phase I clinical trial to evaluate the safety, tolerability, and
pharmacokinetics of high-dose intravenous ascorbic acid in
patients with advanced cancer.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3691494/



High-Dose Intravenous Vitamin C Combined with Cytotoxic
Chemotherapy in Patients with Advanced Cancer:
A Phase I-II Clinical Trial

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4388666/


Antiproliferative Effect of Ascorbic Acid Is Associated with
the Inhibition of Genes Necessary to Cell Cycle Progression.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2634969/


Ascorbic acid: Chemistry, biology and the treatment of cancer☆

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3608474/



Ascorbic acid derivatives as a new class of antiproliferative molecules.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23791877



A study of IV C in glioblastoma is ongoing and you call it ''nonsense'' ?


A Phase I Trial of High-Dose Ascorbate in Glioblastoma Multiforme.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01752491



Who is talking nonsense here - you ?


Have you even finished kindergarten ? If not, go back there
before making a fool of yourself in internet forums.


Without using Wikipedia or Google, do you even know
what cAMP and mTOR is ?

Do you know even know what glioblastomas are ?


Youtube is used not only by commercial enterprises, it is also a
media of communication by many scientific organizations in the
form of video presentations to the public.

Those were by Hugh Riordan's center in Wichita, Kansas.



Let me ask you this :

One fateful day, struck by terminal cancer, lying in bed spending
spending your final hours, body ravaged by chemotherapy, hair all
gone, retching in vomit and nausea, out of options, clutching at straws :

Might the thought of intravenous vitamin C run briefly through
your foggy mind then ?

With your mindset, and having the impression that you have been well
cared for by ''very established treatment options that acually work '',
one would expect not.


( P.S. Cyclophosphamide, around since the end of WW2 and
still in use as one of the first-line chemotherapy regimens for
breast cancer like 4AC, is derived from nitrogen mustard.

Nitrogen mustard = Mustard gas = World War 1 poison gas

So are BCNU (carmustine) and CCNU (lomustine), still in use
for glioblastomas, leukemias and lymphomas. )


So goes the saying :

'' If a bullock refuses to drink water,
it is impossible to force its head down. ''









This post has been edited by Tham: Feb 29 2016, 06:52 AM

Did you read any part where I stated it ''CURES'' cancer ?

Can you point that out ?


I'm not as amateur as to use the term ''cures''.

''Cures'' is a term used by the uninformed on an extremely complex,
disease like cancer with countless genetic mutations as its main
etiology, particularly p53.

In any case, since when did mainstream medicine ''cure'' any deepseated,
chronic, complex disorder, particularly autoimmune ones, apart from
infections subsceptible to antibiotics and conditions amenable by surgery ?

99 percent of the time, when you pick up a medical textbook, chapter
after chapter, they talk about '' Management of ...... ''.

If you had bothered to read my first post in reply to the topic starter
(which presumably again, you hadn't) :


Oh, and no wonder.

When you mentioned ''established treatment options'', I had
half-expected you to be an oncologist or surgeon.

Before dismissing individual case reports on Medline as ''nonsense''
and looking up to double-blind studies as the ''gold standard'' or
''gospel truth'', consider this :

The patient or study participant throws away the drug, herb,
supplement or placebo, and informs the doctor or researcher
that he had taken it diligently as instructed.

I'm sure you know the consequences.


Even a five-year old would have noted that glaring, fundamental
baseline flaw right from the start.

Comes as no surprise why you find conflicting results on Medline
on the same drug, supplement or herb time and again.

Yes, I am well aware of what a double-blind study entails. I knew about
its methodology decades ago.

It's just a fancy sophisticated-sounding name - most people don't realize
that trying to test whether a drug, herb or supplement is effective by giving
half the other participants an inert substance is an ill-thought, extremely crude,
oversimplified and downright idiotic method.

Even in the case of a real medication - part of its efficacy in a patient
will definitely be attrributed to the so-called placebo effect. The mind-body
connection is a powerful one and is the basis in fact why hypnosis works.

In other words - you can never take away the healing power of the mind
- whether medication or placebo.



Our body's own healing abilities, particularly its immune system, does
not work only on the purely physical plane.


The mind-body connection is highly SUBJECTIVE, powerful and
complex - our brain and body's other cells, on external triggers such
as autosuggestion, hypnosis or Reiki, not merely drugs, can also
secrete biochemicals and neurotransmitters, which in turn trigger off
or control the many other biochemical pathways in your body,
including that of our cellular immunity.

Tell me, which two human beings - a very complex organism physically,
mentally and spiritually - are identical, even identical twins ?

How is a ''scientific study'' going to analyze and account for that ?


Alterations in the Th1/Th2 balance in breast cancer patients
using reflexology and scalp massage.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/23136601/


And throwing drugs/placebo away is ''statistically insignificant'' ?

Not true - many supplements are in an absorbable form, which is
why you need to use the right form - in magnesium, for example.

That's why you need to read up more on it and take part in forums
such as that of the Life Extension Foundation.

Most don't require ''promotion by celebrities'', but are known by
those well-informed ones to be useful, and many are backed by
studies too.

There are lots of cancer-fighting supplements, foods, herbs, techniques
and common drugs which you can get at your nearby pharmacy, not
only IV C.

Obviously not - one would not expect the medical faculty of MU
to teach you to give supplements for diseases (other than deficiency
conditions), let alone cancer, in your MBBS.


That this is very new to an MD is not at all surprising - that
is ALWAYS how they react, most with derision and disbelief,
typically in Twitter and Quora.

The same goes for other fields of healing like homeopathy.


That was why from the way you answered in your initial post,
I had the inkling that you were a doctor.

In any case, how many hours of lectures on nutrition/vitamins
did you have in the entire five years of your baseline MBBS ?


IV C is not exactly a ''passion'' for me - it is just one of the many
options for cancer and other diseases that I know of, not just
''cut, burn and poison''.


Vitamins are also not patentable and there's nothing there
for the pharmaceutical giants.

Would you expect Genentech to be researching vitamin C
instead of coming out with imatinib (Gleevec) ?

I'm sure you know how much those tyrosine kinase inhibitors
and monoclonal antibodies cost - some in the region of
several hundred dollars per TABLET, from what I know.

Even simple chemotherapy using an antique drug like bleomycin
in 1996 in Tung Shin Hospital cost this lung adenocarcinoma
woman from an associated Ipoh office of our company some
$ 7,000 per session.


Can you imagine the headline ?

'' Subang Jaya Medical Centre Oncologist Uses Intravenous
Vitamin C to Treat Stage 4 Cancer Patients. ''


Which is likely going to make SJMC laughing stock.





This post has been edited by Tham: Mar 2 2016, 10:06 AM

Your above typical derisive reaction to IV C is best explained by
what the following writers mention about homeopathy, in which
most doctors, and many laymen too, will react with ''placebo'',
''nonsense'', ''snake oil'', ''hocus-pocus'' and ''no scientific evidence''.


'' ..... mainstream scientists can’t explain why, so they chalk it up
to the placebo effect. You have to realize a great deal of so-called
science is “parascience” - the people who call the shots exclude
from consideration any evidence that doesn’t fit what they believe
“must” be true. ''

http://www.cancerdefeated.com/this-217-yea...s-diseases/568/



'' History is littered with tales of the arrogant and the foolish
who have preferred the easier route of reversing that logic or
who have denied that something happens simply because
they can't explain why it does. ''

Chris Woolf, Liskeard, Cornwall


http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries...,,-9542,00.html







This post has been edited by Tham: Mar 2 2016, 10:28 AM

He defintely wouldn't have heard about metformin, mebendazole
or celecoxib against cancer.

When he suggested that we discuss this in private,
I couldn't be bothered - a complete waste of time.

You can tell what sort of mentality he has when he
compared IV C to ''durian juice, mango juice '' .

He's been trained academically for five years to treat
diseases with drugs. This is all very alien to him - just as
the field of life extension would be.

He definitely won't know anything about the offlabel use
of common drugs against diseases, other than what he's been
academically trained on their specific uses.

For example : Paracetamol = Fever, pain.


Do you think he would have thought of prescribing low-dose
paracetamol to women to prevent ovarian cancer ?


'' ..... regular use of acetaminophen, but not aspirin,
may be associated with lower risk of ovarian cancer. ''

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11489759/



'' ...... significant inverse association between paracetamol
use and ovarian cancer risk. ''

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9439495/



Gene expression profile of ABC transporters and cytotoxic
effect of ibuprofen and acetaminophen in an epithelial
ovarian cancer cell line in vitro.


http://www.scielo.br/pdf/rbgo/v37n6/0100-7...37-06-00283.pdf



'' ...... regular aspirin use may reduce incidence of glioma. ''

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26894804/



He won't have more than 10 hours of lectures on vitamins
and nutrition in his entire five years of MBBS.


As my office manager mentioned years ago, particularly
when it comes to this subject :

'' Doctors know the least. ''

Modulation of Cytokines in Cancer Patients by
Intravenous Ascorbate Therapy.

http://www.medscimonit.com/download/index/idArt/895368



The acute effect of high-dose intravenous vitamin C
and other nutrients on blood pressure: a cohort study.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26910646



Effects of High Doses of Vitamin C on
Cancer Patients in Singapore: Nine Cases.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26679971/

http://ict.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/...622010.full.pdf



Pharmacologic ascorbic acid concentrations selectively kill cancer
cells: Action as a pro-drug to deliver hydrogen peroxide to tissues.

http://www.pnas.org/content/102/38/13604.full



Mechanisms of Ascorbate-Induced Cytotoxicity in Pancreatic Cancer.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/41...ncreatic_Cancer


An unpaved journey of vitamin C in cancer treatment.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/27...ancer_treatment



Pharmacological ascorbate induces cytotoxicity in prostate
cancer cells through ATP depletion and induction of autophagy.

http://www.integratedhealthclinic.com/asse...20Depletion.pdf



Intravenous ascorbic acid protocol for cancer patients:
scientific rationale, pharmacology, and clinical experience.

http://functionalfoodscenter.net/files/73514619.pdf



Anti-cancer effect of pharmacologic ascorbate and its interaction
with supplementary parenteral glutathione in preclinical cancer models.

http://www.glutathioneexperts.com/pdfs/glu...l-usages-45.pdf



Pharmacological Ascorbate with Gemcitabine for the Control
of Metastatic and Node-Positive Pancreatic Cancer (PACMAN):
Results from a Phase I Clinical Trial.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3587047/



Pharmacologic doses of ascorbate act as a prooxidant and
decrease growth of aggressive tumor xenografts in mice.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2516281/



Lung Cancer Survival With Herbal Medicine and Vitamins in a
Whole-Systems Approach: Ten-Year Follow-up Data Analyzed.

http://thenaturedoctors.ca/wp-content/uplo...er-research.pdf



Vitamin C: A Concentration-Function Approach Yields
Pharmacology and Therapeutic Discoveries.

http://www.isdbweb.org/documents/file/4db17f55edbd0.pdf



Comment on “Pharmacologic ascorbate synergizes with
Gemcitabine in pre-clinical models of pancreatic cancer”
i.e. All we are saying is, give C a chance.

http://www.clinicofnaturalmedicine.com/upl..._C_a_Chance.pdf



Metabolomic alterations in human cancer cells
by vitamin C-induced oxidative stress.

http://www.nature.com/articles/srep13896



Intravenous Vitamin C (IVC).

http://www.oicc.ca/uploads/iv-vitamin-c-he...rofessional.pdf



The Effects of High Concentrations of Vitamin C on Cancer Cells.

http://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/5/9/3496/pdf



NCI Grantee Explores Vitamin C as Potential Cancer Therapy.

http://cam.cancer.gov/attachments/nci_cam_...spring_2013.pdf



Cytotoxicity of ascorbate to cancer cells: mathematical
modelling, mechanisms and clinical implications.

https://espace.library.uq.edu.au/view/UQ:34..._submission.pdf



Two Grams BID Is an Oral Dosage of Vitamin C to Reduce
the Risk of Recurrence of Superficial Bladder Carcinoma.

http://dx.doi.org/10.4236/jct.2015.62019



The statins have long been known to be cancer fighters.
( Does our consultant gasteroenterologist/hepatologist know this ? )

Simvastatin against cancer.

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-09-stat...mor-growth.html



Phenotype-based high-content chemical library screening
identifies statins as inhibitors of in vivo lymphangiogenesis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/22949700/



Statins and the risk of cancer after heart transplantation.

http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/126/4/440.long



Differential effects of lovastatin on cisplatin responses in normal
human mesothelial cells versus cancer cells: implication for therapy.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/23028957/





This post has been edited by Tham: Mar 13 2016, 03:41 PM

The NAC, along with alpha lipoic acid and artichoke extract
will protect the liver and help to replenish the glutathione.

NAC is a precursor to glutathione.

You can also take supplemental glutathione, but it's not very
well absorbed.


The cyarin content of artichokes is also a cancer fighter.



Long Term Exposure to Polyphenols of Artichoke (Cynara scolymus L.) Exerts Induction of Senescence Driven Growth Arrest in the MDA-MB231 Human Breast Cancer Cell Line.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/26180585/



Cynara scolymus affects malignant pleural mesothelioma
by promoting apoptosis and restraining invasion.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/26136339/



In vitro investigation of cytotoxic and apoptotic effects
of Cynara L. species in colorectal cancer cells.

http://www.apocpcontrol.org/paper_file/iss...ur%20Simsek.pdf




For fever, especially high ones, buy a few capsules of celecoxib.

Since they have only 200 mg ones here (Celebrex), pull open the
capsule and pour half into an empty capsule, or into some water/food.

You'll find that the fever drops rapidly.

Other NSAIDs can also be used to reduce fever.

I've been told indomethacin is very effective, but quite a strong drug
and can cause or aggravate gastritis, since it is an old nonselective drug.
Take with some Zantac, Tagamet or Controloc if you wish to try it.


I haven't tried meloxicam (Mobic) to reduce fever, but it's a cheaper
alternative but less selective than celecoxib. One of the first relatively
Cox-2 selective NSAIDS.


Tagamet is also a long known cancer fighter.



Repurposing drugs in oncology (ReDO) :
Cimetidine as an anti-cancer agent.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/25525463/



Cimetidine and Clobenpropit Attenuate Inflammation-Associated
Colorectal Carcinogenesis in Male ICR Mice.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26907350/




This post has been edited by Tham: Mar 3 2016, 10:52 AM

Doxcycline is indeed a very versatile antibiotic. It fights Alzheimer's,
and now they find it also fights cancer.

Doxycline, developed by Pfizer, used to cost $2.50 each here when
they were marketing it here as ''Vibramycin'' in the 80s, but now
there are many cheap generics.

The studies by Michael Lisanti's group from Manchester University
on doxycycline, chloramphenicol, azithromycin (Zithromax) and other
antibiotics against cancer are here.


Published only last year.


Apparently doxcycline targets cancer stem cells vide hedgehog, one
of the pathways.


Doxycycline and therapeutic targeting of the DNA damage
esponse in cancer cells: old drug, new purpose.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4580062/



Mitochondrial biogenesis is required for the anchorage-independent
survival and propagation of stem-like cancer cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/26087310



Doxycycline down-regulates DNA-PK and radiosensitizes tumor
initiating cells: Implications for more effective radiation therapy.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/26087309




Antibiotics that target mitochondria effectively eradicate
cancer stem cells, across multiple tumor types :
Treating cancer like an infectious disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/25625193/



Antibiotics for cancer therapy.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/25739117/

Targeting mitochondria metabolism for cancer therapy.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/25517383/



Tumor cell metabolism: cancer's Achilles' heel.

http://www.cell.com/cancer-cell/fulltext/S...%2808%2900160-8



The causes of cancer revisited: ‘mitochondrial malignancy’ and
ROS-induced oncogenic transformation - why mitochondria are
targets for cancer therapy.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/41...re_targets_for_



Mitochondria as therapeutic targets for cancer stem cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4369497/



Targeting mitochondria for cancer therapy.

http://www.syntapharma.com/documents/fulda.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/44...Discov_9447-464



Mitochondria and the evolutionary roots of cancer.

http://cancer-insights.asu.edu/wp-content/...Cancer-2013.pdf



Metabolic targets for cancer therapy.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/25..._cancer_therapy



Why mitochondria are excellent targets for cancer therapy.

http://www.linkos.cz/files/klinicka-onkologie/175/4150.pdf



Mitochondria in cancer: at the crossroads of life and death.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/21801601/



Mitochondria in cancer.

http://www.nature.com/onc/journal/v25/n34/full/1209589a.html



Anticancer Drugs Targeting the Mitochondrial Electron Transport Chain.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51...Transport_Chain



The Role of Mitochondria in Cancer and Other Chronic Diseases.

https://riordanclinic.org/wp-content/upload...nd-cancer-1.pdf

Wobenzym, serratiopeptidase and nattokinase are the common
enzymes which have been used in cancer.

You can get them at Iherb.


This combine serrapeptase and nattokinase.

http://my.iherb.com/Doctor-s-Best-Best-Nat...ggie-Caps/50502

You can also buy serrapeptase here, but they have only 5 mg tabs.



http://www.cancerfightingstrategies.com/en...for-cancer.html

http://enzymetherapies.com/9/serrapeptase/...ase-and-cancer/



Here's some local laetrile suppliers.

http://www.cafemlm.com/kesihatan-dan-anda/...dan-kanser.html

http://cancer-b17.blogspot.my/p/therapies-...-metabolic.html





This post has been edited by Tham: Mar 17 2016, 09:21 AM

Intravenous vitamin C is field of orthomolecular medicine.

People like @Py80 would blink their eyes if you ask if they have
heard of it.


http://orthomolecular.org/

http://www.orthomed.org/

https://www.orthomolecularhealth.com/nutrients/

https://www.csom.ca/


The term ''orthomolecular'' was started by Linus Pauling.

Two of its pioneers were Richard Kunin and the late Abram Hoffer,
the Canadian physician and psychiatrist.

I have corresponded with both.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kunin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abram_Hoffer

Abram Hoffer was famed for using megadoses on niacin in shizophrenia.


My father, who had to struggle getting up from his chair with
osteoarthritis, easily got up without effort after just a couple of packs
of Richard Kunin's product here.

http://www.olaloa.com/ola-loa-repair-bone-...supplement.html


I wrote to Richard Kunin in 1986, when @Py80 was still playing marbles
in kindergarten.

I still keep his book, ''Mega Nutrition'' on my office shelves.

http://www.abebooks.com/9780070356399/Mega...-0070356394/plp

I also corresponded with Abram Hoffer in 1996, enquiring about his
protocol for a lady friend with lung adenocarcinoma in one of our
associated offices in Ipoh.


The hypnotic psychologist who posts at ''Zeropoint9'' here, Hiro Koo,
is also familiar with orthomolecular psychiatry.

http://www.newmindcentre.com/2014/08/10-nu...that-cause.html



This looks like the website of local practitioners of this field.

One of them is Steve Yap. I think Jessie Yap is his wife.

http://www.anmp.org.my/board.html


Here's their listing. I believe they are familiar with the IV C prototol.
You can contact them if you wish to know more or try it out for cancer
and other conditons.

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/pract.shtml#mal





This post has been edited by Tham: Mar 17 2016, 11:08 AM

With language like ''bungkus'', one can easily guess your age, mentality
and educational background.

In that case, you would do well to stay put with ''cut, burn and poison'',
and nothing else, when you are unfortunate enough to be struck down
with this disease on that fateful day.

I'm sure you know your chances with this and only option.

Apart from 'HAHA'', so what do you know about cancer that
makes you ''educated'' and qualified to post here ?

Tell me, without referring to Google or Wikipedia, what you
know about the following :


p53
p21
p27
RAS
miRNAs
mTOR
Akt
PI3K
Bax
Bcl-2
Caspase 3
Caspase 9
PPARGamma
NFKappaB
IL-1beta
IL-2
IL-6
IL-10
TNF-alpha


If you can't (and I am quite confident of that), that would
make you nothing more than a typical troll.

As Marina Mahathir emphasized :

'' Hiding behind self-proclaimed piety, they shout their
indignation with name-calling, insults and insinuations.

You have to pity the Malaysian troll. What poor unfulfilled lives
do they lead that the only joy they can get has to come from
making someone else miserable?

How boring are their lives that someone else’s hard-earned
achievement is taken as an offence to their own suspect morals ? ''

http://musingwithmarinamahathir.blogspot.m...-out-there.html

Very young, aren't you ?

Never heard of orthomolecular medicine ?

By calling me silly names again, you've just shot yourself in the own foot
- amply demonstrating what Marina Mahathir described about your kind.

Can't even explain a SINGLE one of the genes that I put forward to you ?


Quite apparent that you haven't gone thru my posts or any other
part of the forum - the same ignorance as that doctor, @Py80.

Whoever said anything about a ''miracle cure'' ?

It's typically your ill-informed, ignorant young type who tends to
use the term ''cure'' when browsing around internet forums on
cancer threads.

You know only two terms in cancer - ''cure'' or death.

It's quite obvious, jumping into this forum from out of the blue,
that you know NOTHING about cancer, apart from making fun
of posts and calling derogatory names.


Why should I even need to bother ''proving'' IV C protocols to
a vagabond idiot hanging around internet cafes who's never
heard of them in his life, apart from the 100 mg C tablets which
he buys at sundry stores ?


If you don't accept it or believe in it, that's your own funeral.


Haven't even read a single one of the studies I put out, showing clearly
the results they achieved or rather, don't have the IQ to understand
any of them ?

If you want further confirmation on ''results'', contact Dr Steve Yap,
Dr Maung Ebrahim or any of the others who are listed above.


But as Marina Mahathir said about your kind, you won't ever do anything
apart from comfortably sitting at your desk, plonking nonsense on the
keyboard, gleefully and childishly poking fun at others in forums everywhere,
the internet being your playground and haven for releasing your childhood
insecurities behind the veil of anonymity, something you can't ever hope
to achieve in real life.


I put forward this information to share with anyone in this forum who
has the BRAINS to consider it.

Don't you think you are being extremely foolish and a complete idiot
by making derisive and skeptical remarks at it ?

What do you hope to achieve ?

Who's the real loser here ?


So what are you going to do when, years later, lying in bed, struck by
terminal cancer, spending your final days, body ravaged by chemotherapy,
out of options, desperately clutching at straws ?


Still laugh at intravenous vitamin C then ?


Will you still, time running out then and out of breath, demand for
''evidence'' of people being ''cured'' by this established therapy before
deciding whether to try it out ?


Enough time wasted on a clown hanging around internet cafes.





This post has been edited by Tham: Mar 20 2016, 04:23 PM