Do your homework before making such ill-informed remarks.

Hi Tham,

Sorry couldn't go through your post in detail. you don't need to quote newspapers and websites with me.

If you can prove a treatments efficacy, whether it be Vit C, Durian juice, or maggi mee daily then publish it for you and yes, even SJMC would use it. Why wouldn't they ? We are not biased against any particular drug. Just the ones that don't have enough convincing CLINICAL data.

Cellular studies like the one you posted are a good starting point, but you need to translate into clinical outcome before you can start bragging about it to the world. Maybe one day.

If its finally proven to work in clinical practice, people will be falling over themselves to give you money to use it.. trust me. Drug companies will be rushing to incorporate it into their existing treatment regimes. I'll be presenting it at international conferences etc.

BTW, the Lancet published years ago that Homeopathy doesn't work. It could never be proven in proper clinical trials... and yes.. the supporters have gone on a rampage about how it cannot be applied in trials and how trials are not accurate blah blah.. basically they are claiming they don't need evidence and what they say is true. sounds like religion no ?

But acupuncture on the other hand did prove effective in pain management in trials and is now even supported by the orthopaedic societies.

I think the medical profession globally may come across as arrogant towards alternative medicine, but in truth, its skepticism and social responsibility. When you are telling a patient or insurance company to pay potentially tens of thousands in medication and treatment fees, are you going to randomly suggest things that have no evidence ? or things that have been proven to work? It would be completely irresponsible to do the former.

However if you have all the money and are willing to pay for anything, then by all means do whatever you want. As long as its not going to make your condition worse.
The discussion has strayed very far. Its moved from Vit C to discussing the world of academic medicine and the clash between alternative and modern medicine.... you could write a book on this subject alone..

Anyway, I will no longer be able to continue this discussion here. I will continue to reply those that PM for advice, but I don't really have the time to keep updating this thread. I won't be replying from now.

Thanks Tham for your lively discussions 
regards

p/s: you never know, maybe years from now if Vit C treatment in cancer becomes established, we'll have to come to you for advice.

He defintely wouldn't have heard about metformin, mebendazole
or celecoxib against cancer.

When he suggested that we discuss this in private,
I couldn't be bothered - a complete waste of time.

You can tell what sort of mentality he has when he
compared IV C to ''durian juice, mango juice '' .

He's been trained academically for five years to treat
diseases with drugs. This is all very alien to him - just as
the field of life extension would be.

He definitely won't know anything about the offlabel use
of common drugs against diseases, other than what he's been
academically trained on their specific uses.

For example : Paracetamol = Fever, pain.
Do you think he would have thought of prescribing low-dose
paracetamol to women to prevent ovarian cancer ?
'' ..... regular use of acetaminophen, but not aspirin,
may be associated with lower risk of ovarian cancer. ''

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11489759/
'' ...... significant inverse association between paracetamol
use and ovarian cancer risk. ''

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9439495/
Gene expression profile of ABC transporters and cytotoxic
effect of ibuprofen and acetaminophen in an epithelial
ovarian cancer cell line in vitro.


http://www.scielo.br/pdf/rbgo/v37n6/0100-7...37-06-00283.pdf
'' ...... regular aspirin use may reduce incidence of glioma. ''

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26894804/
He won't have more than 10 hours of lectures on vitamins
and nutrition in his entire five years of MBBS.
As my office manager mentioned years ago, particularly
when it comes to this subject :

'' Doctors know the least. ''

The NAC, along with alpha lipoic acid and artichoke extract
will protect the liver and help to replenish the glutathione.

NAC is a precursor to glutathione.

You can also take supplemental glutathione, but it's not very
well absorbed.
The cyarin content of artichokes is also a cancer fighter.
For fever, especially high ones, buy a few capsules of celecoxib.

Since they have only 200 mg ones here (Celebrex), pull open the
capsule and pour half into an empty capsule, or into some water/food.

You'll find that the fever drops rapidly.

Other NSAIDs can also be used to reduce fever.

I've been told indomethacin is very effective, but quite a strong drug
and can cause or aggravate gastritis, since it is an old nonselective drug.
Take with some Zantac, Tagamet or Controloc if you wish to try it.
I haven't tried meloxicam (Mobic) to reduce fever, but it's a cheaper
alternative but less selective than celecoxib. One of the first relatively
Cox-2 selective NSAIDS.
Tagamet is also a long known cancer fighter.
Repurposing drugs in oncology (ReDO)-cimetidine as an anti-cancer agent.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/25525463/
Cimetidine and Clobenpropit Attenuate Inflammation-Associated
Colorectal Carcinogenesis in Male ICR Mice.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26907350/

Fully agreed with THAM. But for those who lost alot of weight bcoz of chemo or Cancer itself, cutting carbs is slow death because they will get weaker to survive even if they take good alternative treatments...So how to make them stronger without carbs.?

Is anyone saying that these guys' diet recommendations to prevent cancer are wrong?

Looks predominantly carb based to me. Though high in fiber and water content.

PCRM - Foods for Cancer Prevention

PCRM - Researchers Unveil Six Dietary Guidelines for Cancer Prevention

WCRF - Our Cancer Prevention Recommendations