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 HLA EVERGAIN PLUS, What do you think .. !!

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lifebalance
post Feb 24 2016, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(suns8630 @ Feb 24 2016, 12:30 PM)
Hello ,

I was introduced by a  banca staffs at Hong leong bank ..

Sounds good ,, but I wonder others is offering the similar product ..
Pay 10 K ringgit per year for continue 6 years = 60.0000.00

Returns will be good after 10 years ... Not advice for short time investment ...

Including riders of total permanent disable. And Old age disable ...
PleAse refer photo attached photo .
Please comment comment  and advice
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This kind of policy is an endowment plan where your money is invested and returns at about 4% effective rate

It's suitable if you have some money you would like to set aside for retirement or for your children in a safe mode of investment

If you're an investor yourself then 4% might not attract you.
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post Feb 24 2016, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(suns8630 @ Feb 24 2016, 01:33 PM)
Hello ,

Thank you very much  for the reply ..

Yaaaah .. The gain of 10 years over bull and bear does not sounds right ,

But I do look at the riders benefit .. Which is include of this plan ...
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You will only see the returns more when your plan is abit 15 to 20 years above

First 10 year return is not worth looking at

Which is why this is a long term plan
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post Feb 24 2016, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 24 2016, 09:23 PM)
Pay up six year or not actually is not a main point of consideration at all.

Six year big sum
vs
smaller sum every year for 20 years.

The latter may have more advantage if look from cashflow perspective.
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I did a review on this before

It seems if the shorter the repayment term, the higher is your cash value at the end.

Reason is because 6 year plan deducts lesser commission compared to 20 years plan and due to high initial capital, the returns can be accumulated higher by end of the 20/25 years.

However if budget is constraint then a 20 years payment scheme will be viable albeit lower returns.
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post Feb 24 2016, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 24 2016, 09:32 PM)
Because you throw in more money from the start.
Just like you put FD more in the early year instead bit by bit every year, you get more interest.
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post Feb 24 2016, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Feb 24 2016, 10:20 PM)
actually the problem i'm trying to highlight is not whether you throw money earlier or not, etc. all your points are true but doesn't apply to this HLA product.

for this particular product... the customer pays THE SAME amount of commission whether he pays 6 year or 20 years... now the customer is supposed to pay RM10k for 20 years, then now shorten to 6 years, with reduced insurance coverage, commonly known as paid-up in traditional policy terminology.

commission is not reduced, hence ie customer is really paying same amount for lesser by choosing this paid-up option. not advantageous to the customer.
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hmm.gif Any product disclosure of this plan, then we can find out where the money goes, normally the insurance company is required to show this as it's part of BNM requirement.

From what you said, it seems like a very bad plan then

But it sounds weird that the customer pays "THE SAME" amount of commission because BNM guideline is stated

Commission pay out to be
Yr 1 40%
Yr 2 40%
Yr 3 25%
Yr 4 25%
Yr 5 15%
Yr 6 15%

It can't be 40% all the 6 years ?

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post Feb 24 2016, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Feb 24 2016, 11:42 PM)
er... you misunderstood. my point being the same is not 40% for 6 years..

what i mean is that the above still applicable to this customer. by stopping premium payment after 6 years, it's not advantageous to the customer when the money really start going in on from 7th year and onwards. that's what i'm trying to say.
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hmm.gif i see

well that's what the insurance agent earns when they sell a savings plan.

Sad truth but a golden ticket to MDRT.
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post Mar 1 2016, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Mar 1 2016, 10:28 PM)
Sorry for hijacking your thread but the admin locked mine and suggested me to move over here
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To be honest, I have no clear vision on what to gain from this as it's a spontaneous casual suggestion from the agent (My friend) but I guess low risk investment with some returns is good enough for me
1. No idea but I won't be expecting too much
2. When it hits maturity? (11 years)

BTW I already have a separate insurance coverage so I'm not sure if having another insurance coverage from this plan is a good idea or not
My main concern is that the lock in period, says if I were to purchase a car in future, assuming my salary remain the same, I wouldn't been able to fork out another few hundred ringgit for the installment
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You need someone to plan to road map ahead for this so that you get a clear picture where you're heading
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post Mar 1 2016, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Sunny zombie @ Mar 1 2016, 10:31 PM)
so this HLA gain is endownment traditional plan, investment link or universal product rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Most likely a traditional plan, I could be wrong over the years they've been marketing over the same thing and could have change some of its feature

 

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