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TSCoffeeDude
post Feb 17 2016, 03:22 PM, updated 10y ago

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A few years ago I withdrew my EPF to buy a condo.
The condo is still owned by me.

Can I now withdraw EPF to reduce my housing loan for another house?
This is an existing house owned by me and my wife.
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post Feb 17 2016, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Feb 17 2016, 03:22 PM)
A few years ago I withdrew my EPF to buy a condo.
The condo is still owned by me.

Can I now withdraw EPF to reduce my housing loan for another house?
This is an existing house owned by me and my wife.
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Pengeluaran untuk mengurang atau menyelesaikan baki pinjaman untuk rumah kedua dibenarkan setelah rumah pertama dijual atau berlaku
pelupusan pemilikan. Pelupusan pemilikan bermaksud ‘hilang pemilikan ke atas rumah pertama yang dimiliki melalui pengeluaran KWSP sebelum
ini’ atas sebab rumah tersebut dilelong, penyerahan harta melalui perintah mahkamah, pindah milik atas dasar kasih sayang, rumah musnah akibat
bencana alam atau kebakaran, projek rumah terbengkalai atau pembatalan pembelian rumah.


in short, you have to let go of 1st house.

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10...13_Jun_2014.pdf
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post Feb 17 2016, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Feb 17 2016, 03:22 PM)
A few years ago I withdrew my EPF to buy a condo.
The condo is still owned by me.

Can I now withdraw EPF to reduce my housing loan for another house?
This is an existing house owned by me and my wife.
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Don't see why not. Anyway, replies here maybe based on /k experience which might not be 100% similar. Why nor just call then and get confirmed answer? wink.gif
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post Feb 17 2016, 03:26 PM

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You mean must sell off first house?
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post Feb 17 2016, 03:27 PM

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nope..not possible..but i think there's a loop hole..

u can withdraw with reason to settle 1st house installment..but take the money to purchase 2nd house..

though do note they did say, wang berlebihan yang tidak diguna untuk bayar installment for 1st house..need to be return back.

so jst withdraw every few mths and acccumulate
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QUOTE(blackrage @ Feb 17 2016, 03:25 PM)
Pengeluaran untuk mengurang atau menyelesaikan baki pinjaman untuk rumah kedua dibenarkan setelah rumah pertama dijual atau berlaku
pelupusan pemilikan. Pelupusan pemilikan bermaksud ‘hilang pemilikan ke atas rumah pertama yang dimiliki melalui pengeluaran KWSP sebelum
ini’ atas sebab rumah tersebut dilelong, penyerahan harta melalui perintah mahkamah, pindah milik atas dasar kasih sayang, rumah musnah akibat
bencana alam atau kebakaran, projek rumah terbengkalai atau pembatalan pembelian rumah.
in short, you have to let go of 1st house.

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10...13_Jun_2014.pdf
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Is that so? Then why they allow to withdraw for purchase of 2nd house? rclxub.gif
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post Feb 17 2016, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Feb 17 2016, 03:22 PM)
A few years ago I withdrew my EPF to buy a condo.
The condo is still owned by me.

Can I now withdraw EPF to reduce my housing loan for another house?
This is an existing house owned by me and my wife.
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Wait a minute ... The first house the EPF was not drawn under your name but your wife only?
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QUOTE(blackrage @ Feb 17 2016, 03:25 PM)
Pengeluaran untuk mengurang atau menyelesaikan baki pinjaman untuk rumah kedua dibenarkan setelah rumah pertama dijual atau berlaku
pelupusan pemilikan. Pelupusan pemilikan bermaksud ‘hilang pemilikan ke atas rumah pertama yang dimiliki melalui pengeluaran KWSP sebelum
ini’ atas sebab rumah tersebut dilelong, penyerahan harta melalui perintah mahkamah, pindah milik atas dasar kasih sayang, rumah musnah akibat
bencana alam atau kebakaran, projek rumah terbengkalai atau pembatalan pembelian rumah.
in short, you have to let go of 1st house.

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10...13_Jun_2014.pdf
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do you have an English version of the document?
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QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 17 2016, 03:29 PM)
Wait a minute ... The first house the EPF was not drawn under your name but your wife only?
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Both house and condo also joint name.
Bank loans also joint name.
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Feb 17 2016, 03:31 PM)
Both house and condo also joint name.
Bank loans also joint name.
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Loan joined name is okay but when purchase first house, both of you withdraw from EPF?
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QUOTE(Armata @ Feb 17 2016, 03:27 PM)
nope..not possible..but i think there's a loop hole..

u can withdraw with reason to settle 1st house installment..but take the money to purchase 2nd house..

though do note they did say, wang berlebihan yang tidak diguna untuk bayar installment for 1st house..need to be return back.

so jst withdraw every few mths and acccumulate
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Which lubang u come from armata? Bayar installment is bayar to bank directly by LHDN. Not owner. So what is da point? Lulz.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 17 2016, 03:26 PM)
Don't see why not. Anyway, replies here maybe based on /k experience which might not be 100% similar. Why nor just call then and get confirmed answer?  wink.gif
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Not possible la..
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post Feb 17 2016, 03:36 PM

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What about withdraw for the first time to buy a second home after the first home is paid off?
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post Feb 17 2016, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(beetch @ Feb 17 2016, 04:35 PM)
Which lubang u come from armata? Bayar installment is bayar to bank directly by LHDN. Not owner. So what is da point? Lulz.
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LHDN???
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
are you in the right tered?
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QUOTE(beetch @ Feb 17 2016, 03:35 PM)
Which lubang u come from armata? Bayar installment is bayar to bank directly by LHDN. Not owner. So what is da point? Lulz.
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u can withdraw out instead of having EPF to xfer to bank...at least that s what i have read..

but i didnt perform such transaction before...

so u confirm can only have EPF to xfer to bank on behalf of u?

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QUOTE(sunami @ Feb 17 2016, 03:39 PM)
LHDN???
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Lulz epf soli soli ayam mistake.
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post Feb 17 2016, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(beetch @ Feb 17 2016, 04:41 PM)
Lulz epf soli soli ayam mistake.
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but one thing..i asked kwsp staff b4 when i go submit form for principle knockoff for my first home....
thy said can take out to pay installment for 2nd house..
this really confusing...
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post Feb 17 2016, 03:44 PM

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Kenot la.

Must sell first house only then can withdraw
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post Feb 17 2016, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(sunami @ Feb 17 2016, 03:43 PM)
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but one thing..i asked kwsp staff b4 when i go submit form for principle knockoff for my first home....
thy said can take out to pay installment for 2nd house..
this really confusing...
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To withdraw 10% is one thing,

Withdraw epf for installment is another thing.
You have to wait 2 years from s&p signed before can withdraw for installment
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post Feb 17 2016, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 17 2016, 03:27 PM)
Is that so? Then why they allow to withdraw for purchase of 2nd house?  rclxub.gif
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You cannot own 2 house at the sametime. This is what the epf mean.

I ask before this.

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