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post Feb 20 2016, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(MissHanz @ Feb 20 2016, 02:14 PM)
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P.P.P.S: Did anyone know that there was a door unlock button near your knee area? It's a very small button, when you press it, all car doors unlock. I did not know of it's existence at all and my SA also never mentioned nor did I see it in the manual book. WHY PUT THERE?? I have been manually opening my car doors via the car door and thought it wasnt very elegant for such a tech rich car. Placement is also weird.
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Talking about hidden buttons, I sent my car for ECU remap & the sifu told me that there's actually a button on the accelerator when you press full to turn on "aggressive driving mode". Never knew about this.

After googling, it's called a Accelerator Pedal Kickdown Switch.
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post Feb 21 2016, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(Whatever111 @ Feb 20 2016, 09:55 PM)
How is your car performance after ECU remap? Any noticeable changes in FC? I'm planning to do a ECU remap for my car as well.
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QUOTE(kluseng @ Feb 20 2016, 10:40 PM)
Where did you do the ECU remap? For RON 95 or RON 97? Any advantage in performance?
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I can't comment on the FC yet as it's only been a day, but I"m loving it so far. The car feels a lot lighter and responsive. I find the stock Mazda 3 sluggish on low speed & rev. Even my old waja had better pickup. But after the remap, it definitely feels alot livelier. I'm actually expecting better FC because I won't need to press down the accelerator for 2 seconds waiting to it to pick up anymore.

I did the remap at AE Tuned. Look for Mr.Chai. They are doing a promo now.

QUOTE(MissHanz @ Feb 20 2016, 11:09 PM)
OH so that's what it is? I sorta had a feeling it was programmed that way to save fuel; sluggish acceleration at first and then sudden increase in acceleration. I always have a sudden burst of power whenever I tekan to overtake a car. Is that why I have to pump petrol every 380km? For me the car is not fuel efficient at all, one full tank definitely cannot reach Penang. My old Vios can go to Penang one tank no problem, coasting at 140-160km. Last pump on the 15th, yesterday 19th had to pump again. Is this unusual? I'm getting 8.8L/100km/h but it doesn't add up. I get about 200km for the first 3 bars, and then the remaining bars goes down really damn quick. By 380km the car range shows I have maybe 49km left, which usually means in real time I can go for another 20km before my pump petrol indicator lights up.

Maybe I need to lay off the kick down. Starting to miss my vios. Only had to pump once every one and a half week.

Do let me know how to ECU remapping turns out.
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Wow, 380km does seem a little low. I'm on 80% city driving and I get more than 500km, and I don't have a light right feet. Might need to get something checked.
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post Feb 21 2016, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(MissHanz @ Feb 21 2016, 12:53 AM)
I asked the mazda service rep whether it was normal when I went to do my 1k service and he said yes. I accelerate a lot and drive anywhere between 110~140kmh now without going any higher because my petrol just goes down like water down the hill. I drive up and down from klang to subang, that's about it. Should I insist to Mazda that this isn't normal? Is anyone else getting a reading close to mine? I don't think even with braking and acceleration as constantly as I do should have such a big difference.. I mean, everyone else is boasting 500~650km/h and I'm here struggling to even get 420km on one tank. Don't tell me everyone who got this car drives on AVG 90kmh!  rclxub.gif
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Do you drive really really aggressively? A lot of heavy breaking & accelerating? Other than driving style, I can't think of another reason. Especially if you're mostly driving on highways. rclxub.gif Maybe try asking in the FB group. A lot of sifu there.
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post Feb 21 2016, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(MissHanz @ Feb 21 2016, 02:05 AM)
I drive 110~140 kmh when road is clear, I drive on highways 80% of the time moving at about 90kmh due to congestion and mild crawl for a short bit near the i-City toll there. 6 times a week. I do accelerate to over take but not very often.

Which FB group? I joined one but hasn't been approved.
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Hm, sounds like reasonable driving style to me. Quite a wonder.

This fb group : https://www.facebook.com/groups/mazda3clubmy/

QUOTE(kluseng @ Feb 21 2016, 09:34 AM)
Thanks for your info. Please update us when you have more experience with your ECU remap. Are you using RON 95 or RON97? I'm more interested in more oomph at low rpm and removing the lag. FC is secondary as I'm already getting very good FC. I get 650km per tank for 60% highway and 40% city driving and I drive 120 - 140 km/h on the highway.
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I'm usually using RON95 at the moment. Damn, I should really try some long distance driving to see how much I can stretch my FC. Too bad where I stay & work has countless speed bumps, traffic lights & jams. I'll report back in a week to see if my FC is affected.
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post Feb 21 2016, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(kluseng @ Feb 21 2016, 06:12 PM)
I've checked out the AE Tuned website and their price looks reasonable. But are you sure the gain in performance is not psychological? Did you do any dyno to compare?
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The on paper figures isn't that big diff. You're not gonna gain that big max HP or torque. Which is expected since our engine is NA and I didn't change any parts. However, the power delivery is more linear.if I'm not wrong the stock Mazda has a real steep curve.

Previously I'd manually downshift to 2nd gear on toll(smart tag) and when I try to accelerate my car takes awhile to accelerate. It's also a little annoying in jams because of slow response.
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post Feb 22 2016, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(MissHanz @ Feb 21 2016, 11:52 PM)
YES. i-Stop also. That's why I turned it off. Mana tau my wallet cannot take it hahaha.
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Yeah, it's a habit of mine to turn it off whenever I step into the car. I hate it when I stop at a car park to take the ticket and the engine just turns off. Grr.
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post Feb 22 2016, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 22 2016, 12:13 AM)
Will remapping via AE tuned void warranty?
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Hm, I didn't ask. But if it's somehow related to ECU and somehow Mazda is able to detect, I'm guessing it would.
Every mod comes with a risk.

QUOTE(MissHanz @ Feb 22 2016, 12:18 AM)
I tried to make the process more automated by turning my air conditioning on at 18c so that I never have to turn i-Stop off every time I start driving but that might probably not be very fuel efficient sweat.gif
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Not fuel efficient indeed. Not sure if you seen this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-7mE-iAbEI
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post Feb 22 2016, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(ZaiZai1989 @ Feb 22 2016, 08:53 AM)
tried a member's car tuned by AE already, to be honest i cant feel the improvement plus it VOIDS warranty for sure, every single remap done will be recorded in the ECU... original mapping is the best dy, balance... if u wan better power, go change drop in air filter, or modify exhaust.. but also lead to warranty void...
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Yeah, most performance mods would void warranty. But don't you find the stock mapping very laggy? Always find that I have to rev above 3k-4k rpm if I want to accelerate to overtake.

Right now I barely need to rev that high. Its not that the car is more powerful after remapping, it just feels just smoother as power comes in quicker. Not to mention, no more speed limiter. lol.
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post Feb 22 2016, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(aimeh @ Feb 22 2016, 09:38 AM)
You dont need to brake that much until I stop kick in to stop a car from moving Try to control.  tongue.gif
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True, but sometimes it's a little hard when there's a slight slope or ramp.

QUOTE(aimeh @ Feb 22 2016, 10:51 AM)
If not mistaken, mazda 3 pre tuned more toward fuel efficiency. On the other hand, Mx Miata which using the same engine as M3 tuned more toward performance.

And I do read some article before, M3 power boost after 3000 rpm and continue. Before 3000 are set to be low rev but still powerful for your need.
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Yeap, I agree. Certainly feels that way. Most reviews will say the same.. Maybe I just prefer instant response. To each their own I guess. Everyone has their own driving style.
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post Feb 22 2016, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Feb 22 2016, 11:49 AM)
Our M3 is good for overtaking when you are travelling at a decent speed like 80-90 km/h but not so responsive when you are starting off from standstill or going at low speed. In that case we have to rev the engine before the power comes after a slight lag. If the remap can give better response at low speed/low rpm I think it is worth it already. But how to test a remapped M3 before deciding? That is the problem.
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Indeed, because at that speed your RPM wouldn't be as far off. I drive 80-90% in the city, which is probably why it ticks me off more than others.

Could organise a TT and test out the members cars that are remapped.

QUOTE(liamlain @ Feb 22 2016, 03:01 PM)
guys finding knight sport bodykit around kl/pj any shop got ?
including paint and installation

anyone knw and can help ?

thanks : )
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Try rexxstyling.
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post Feb 22 2016, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(liamlain @ Feb 22 2016, 03:51 PM)
asked d..no luck too : )
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Hm, I thought I saw them promoting it the other day. There are a few members with the kit in the FB group. Could try asking them. Btw, mind if I ask how do you plan to buy online? I'm looking for some parts that aren't available here too.
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post Feb 23 2016, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(ZaiZai1989 @ Feb 23 2016, 08:23 PM)
yes bro, stock mapping is kinda laggy or i would say its tuned to be more fuel efficient, haha, notice that m3 likes to go to highest gear possible at all times..

i also cannot tahan that, tats why i added a taiwan ultra charger which cost around 1k, and a drop in stainless steel air filter.. believe it or not it does give me more torque in lower end rpm.. not to say a lot, but i feel better response..
yes bro, 3k-4k is really good, i came from persona too... same goes to me, need to rev real high for overtaking.. but i love m3 2nd gear the most, 3k-5k was real fast!  thumbup.gif
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Taiwan Ultra charger? What's that?

QUOTE(kluseng @ Feb 23 2016, 08:28 PM)
Are shift paddles useful to control the gears rather than adding hardware or going for ECU remap?
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Yes you can do that, even just use your gear lever if you have the gl. I was using the paddle shifters before this too, but that just changes the gear. You can downshift to accelerate but you may still need to rev high, 3-4k rpm to get the acceleration needed.

After remapping, I hardly need to do that. In fact most of the time I barely touch 3k rpm because I get enough acceleration from around 2k rpm. Best thing is I don't need to time for the "build up" when I want to overtake.
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post Feb 24 2016, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(albertemmer @ Feb 24 2016, 12:39 PM)
That because of torque.
How much torque increase from your mapping?
Im also interested to do ecu remapping for better acceleration. But i also afraid if it can cause tyre damage bwcause high torque tyre will torn n wear easily
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Exactly what kluseng mentioned. The gained max hp & torque is not much. Less than 10. The difference is the power curve. It won't affect the tyres because it's not like you're doing burnouts. lol
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post Feb 25 2016, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(ZaiZai1989 @ Feb 24 2016, 09:21 PM)
wow.. too bad the local one didnt provide any dyno results for b4 and after tuned.. if local malaysia tuner can get similar result like this, i will go for it for sure! so much of torque gained in low end rpm almost 40nm! tats impressive!
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I think you can opt for that if you pay extra for dyno. I have the dyno example for AE tuned, but it's in my computer back home. Will post it later.
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post Feb 25 2016, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(aimeh @ Feb 25 2016, 02:06 PM)
Any idea on Caltex fuel?
I got few friend which in car servicing business, they recommended me to use Caltex.
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I use Caltex most of the time but only for convenience sake. Because there's a station near where I stay. Personally I don't feel much difference. This kind of debate will get all sorts of answers. It's damn hard to test because of varying traffic conditions / route / driving style.

Don't think there's a right or wrong answer, just try every one out and choose which you like.
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post Feb 25 2016, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(ZaiZai1989 @ Feb 25 2016, 08:24 PM)
bro bro bro.. pls share the dyno result.. hehehehe.. cant wait  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Here you go, it's not my dyno. It's what the tuner showed to me. I suppose he's using similar settings.

Anyways, a slight update for those that want to know about the FC. I just refilled full tank yesterday, and you can see my mileage. Daily travel from Ampang - PJ. So I don't cover that much distance, one tank usually lasts me almost 2 weeks. I'll continue to monitor.

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post Feb 26 2016, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(ZaiZai1989 @ Feb 25 2016, 10:32 PM)
bro it seems like low end torque for stock is even better wor.. coz the torque after tuned only increase at rpm 4.5k which is consider high rpm to me.. i drive 2k rpm most of the time.. maybe suitable for drivers who prefer high rpm driving always.. hehe
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Same here, which is the main reason I tune my car because I find the low end torque for stock isn't enough. My previous ride was the 4G18 waja which had pretty alright torque at the low rpm. Probably why I not use to it.

After tuning my car I rarely rev above 3k. I'm not sure how accurate is the chart since it's not my car. Guess the best way to know is to test it out against a stock car.

Btw previously you mentioned you added some ultra charger, can share what's that?
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post Feb 26 2016, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(kluseng @ Feb 26 2016, 08:33 AM)
The dyno graph doesn't make sense for the response you are getting as it shows that low end torque has decreased and high end torque from 4200rpm increased. The increase is quite marginal also. Based on this graph I wouldn't do any tuning with them as it doesn't show that they know how to tune a SkyActiv engine properly. Do you have dybo results for your actual car?
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Nope. I didn't dyno. Personally I went for Ae tuned because they seem to be more specialised, mostly doing Mazda, Toyota & Subaru only. If the torque actually decreased, I'm sure I would have noticed since I drive in the city daily.

Well at the end of the day it's your car so it's your choice. Im not affiliated with them so i have ntg to gain. Just sharing with fellow members. For me I'm satisfied from the tune especially for such a low cost.
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post Feb 26 2016, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(kskhuaw @ Feb 26 2016, 09:22 AM)
Is that graph is for M3? I also have the dyno graph from AE Tuned but the graph is different.
The air/fuel is decrease after 4.5k rpm.
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Should be, do share yours.
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post Feb 26 2016, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(kskhuaw @ Feb 26 2016, 10:21 AM)
Here you go.
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Nice, looks alot better. I'm guessing every tune is different depends what you tell him. I just asked him for mine. Interested how other tuners are doing it too. As for mine, as far I can see, hardly effect FC.


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