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TSkelvintt
post Feb 14 2016, 11:57 PM, updated 10y ago

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Hi guys,

I got quoted recently (Jan 2016) for electrical installation jobs for my new house. All wirings are concealed. Are these prices reasonable (per unit)?

Power Points
- Lay new 13A power point with 2.5mm x 2 + Earth PVC cable c/w PVC piping concealed : RM105
- Extend 13A power point from existing points : RM60
- Lay air-cond/heater/oven/hob/hood point with 2.5mm x 2 + E PVC cable c/w 20A neon switch & PVC piping : RM285

Lighting Points, Etc.
- Lay new lighting/led/T5/T8 point with 1.5mm x 2 + Earth PVC cable c/w PVC piping concealed : RM55
- Lay new ceiling fan point with 1.5mm x 2 +Earth PVC cable c/w fan hook & PVC piping : RM68
- Lay new telephone point : RM180
- Lay new TV antenna point with 5C2V cable : RM180
- Lay new Astro point with RG6 cable : RM285
- Lay new Ethernet point with CAT5E cable : RM285
- Lay new fibre optic point from outside house (e.g. for Unifi) : RM500

Installations
- Install downlight/halogen/T5/T8 : RM20
- Install ceiling fan : RM45

Thanks a lot!! notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by kelvintt: Feb 15 2016, 12:02 AM
TSkelvintt
post Feb 22 2016, 04:29 PM

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Btw, cables are Megacable.
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post Feb 22 2016, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(Richard @ Feb 22 2016, 05:06 PM)
haha.. you seem like expert..

if only 8 nos. 13A socket total maybe 15 lights in the whole house..

you can do?

Bit of advice if doing new living room ask your wireman pull extra conduits from the main TV, central stereo to ceiling/wall satellite speakers..

Place the unifi main equipment in a store room or under the staircase with a cat5e cable to the wireless AP run cat5e from network switch to the main tv/central stereo console and anywhere else you might need it with a 13A socket nearby..

Place a 13A socket  high level outside in case you need it..
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The house plan has 45 lighting points, 25 13A points, 8 aircond/heater/hoob/hod points, etc. House is 2-storey, 24x70. Total quote is ~RM13k.

Thanks for your advices. My initial plan is to put the Unifi equipments on TV console in living room, then connect cat5e to upstairs family area, in case the wifi is weak at 2nd floor. But somehow, I feel those equipments will spoil the TV console view if put there. blink.gif
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post Feb 22 2016, 08:05 PM

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post Feb 22 2016, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(man letrik @ Feb 22 2016, 07:25 PM)
My advice. Dont be too calculative. U willing to spend huge money on renovation. eletric the most important part. Anything wrong with wiring ur house will burn down cause of short circuir. Get licence contractor. Their price higher than normal indon or bangla guy or unregistered contractor. But u know u r safe . Because to certify test for new installation u need to run 3 test. Insulation test. Continuity test and earth resistence test.
Pricing are difference for everyhouse. We calculate the wire run from db box to point. 1 poinr from db to kitchen took 5 ' from ceiling to db 40' up ceiling and 10 ' down to plug point. Its took 50' wire lenght x 3 (life neutral n earth wire) 150' same 50m. 1 megacable cost u RM80 for 100m. 50m cost u RM40 not include cost of hacking plastering piping and labour cosr finally socket with difference brand like clipsal mk pdl and some cheap brand. So my advice pay the contractor the right price with their effoct and their experience and qualification.tq
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I'm not calculative but just afraid of being chop with high price since I don't know what's the market price. Thanks for your advice & sharing on megacable cost.

I somehow don't understand why the air-cond/heater point with 2.5mm cables (same as 13A points) is so expensive (RM285 vs RM105) while the difference is the extra 20A neon switch. Issit because it is 1-to-1 to the DB switch while 13A point can a few points share one DB switch?
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post Feb 22 2016, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(Richard @ Feb 22 2016, 10:25 PM)
This is only one persons unqualified opinion based on cost..

Please base your decision on our electrical code of installation as there are many electrical accidents due to substandard cable sizing and wiring installation..  Electrical system is invisible and travels via electrical conductor and can kill you and burn down your home..
rm45/100m coil for 1.5mm2 (allowed current carrying capacity 14.5A), rm55/100m coil for 2.5mm2 (allowed current carrying capacity 19.5A),  rm110 for 4mm2 and so on..

3 runs of cables to complete a circuit i.e. Live(L), Neutral(N) and protective earth(E) with a mcb for thermal overload to protect the circuit.

You can link as many light points to one circuit within its allowable rating for 1.5mm2 or as many as 2 nos 13A sockets for 2.5mm2.

If you are doing residential wiring you must run 4mm2 pvc cable for water heater or air conditioner with a double pole switch. In addition there should be an individual RCD for water heaters..

The reason you pay more is for a competent wireman to supply and install according to our Malaysian guidelines for electrical wiring in buildings. Its for your safety and the safety of your loved ones.

and yes.. you can employ any bangla or indon worker to pull your wiring.. its just not as safe..
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Should I expect every air-cond/heater/oven/hob/hood point to have their individual RCD? Or how many can be shared?

The contractor said 2.5mm cables are sufficient for air-cond/heater/oven/hob/hood points. My largest air-cond is 2hp. Issit true?
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post Feb 23 2016, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Feb 23 2016, 01:10 PM)
if u are hardworking, u can install the fan yourself and water heater..

this 2 is very easy only..
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I plan to install ceiling fans myself. My toilets all have wall tiles, not sure I'll break the tiles or not if install myself.
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post Feb 23 2016, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Feb 23 2016, 08:29 PM)
For wall tiles you need those drill bit that is for tiles and it won't break it. Than again is quite tricky. Is advisable to drill in between tiles to lesser the chance of breaking it
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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Feb 23 2016, 09:06 PM)
drill slowly. wont break... put a bit water when drilling
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Thanks! I'll try carefully. smile.gif
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post Feb 23 2016, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Feb 23 2016, 10:03 AM)
my quotation from chinese guy

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My quick comparison:
- Lighting point: Mine RM55, Urs RM60
- Fan point: Mine RM68, Urs RM70
- 13A point: Mine RM105, Urs RM90
- Heater/oven point: Mine RM285, Urs RM220
- Phone point: Mine RM180, Urs RM100
- Install light/fan/heater: Mine RM20/45/80, Urs RM10/20/60

Prices are about similar for #1 to #3. I guess it's give & take. If not calculative, should be reasonable.

For heater/oven point, does yours come with a switch (those with small red LED)? If no, then maybe this is why yours cheaper by RM50.

Somehow I feel my phone point price is expensive, by 80%!

Your installation charges are cheaper. Anyway, I think I still can accept mine assuming the contractor keep to his promise of giving his quality finishing/work. From what I surveyed, RM80 for heater is kind of reasonable (with PVC case only, no conceal).

Now left the below items. I feel the prices are kind of high. Eg. Astro & Ethernet same price as heater point, RM285. I don't know if it's because of the cable that is expensive vs electric cable or I only install 1 or 2 points for each of them. Maybe electric sifus here can help to enlighten me. smile.gif

- Lay new telephone point : RM180
- Lay new TV antenna point with 5C2V cable : RM180
- Lay new Astro point with RG6 cable : RM285
- Lay new Ethernet point with CAT5E cable : RM285
- Lay new fibre optic point from outside house (e.g. for Unifi) : RM500
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post Mar 2 2016, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Mar 2 2016, 02:11 AM)
Tumpang a bit. If looping considered one point or seperate? Example 4 down lights with one switch, is that one point or 4 points? My wireman says 4, and he charges RM60 per point.
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My contractor also charged by the number of lighting points. If 4 points, then counted as 4 points although they are controlled by 1 switch.
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post Mar 2 2016, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(newbuyer @ Mar 2 2016, 03:33 PM)
where ur location?
my electrician quote me as below
looping socket RM60 (will free some...can nego)
Lighting point RM45 (includes installation)
Fan point RM55 (includes installation)
Aircon/Heater/Hood RM180

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Mine is at JB. Your prices include conceal? Did he mentioned what cable brand he uses?
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post Jun 26 2016, 09:48 PM

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Hi guys,

Wanna ask, for 1 row of ceiling cove lights with 5 light tubes, does it counted as 1 light points or 5 light points?

 

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