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 PlayStation 4™ Community Official Thread | V14, PS4 Pro Announced - $399 (November 10th)

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4lt4ir
post Aug 8 2016, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Aug 7 2016, 05:53 PM)
Just finished playing Gone Home. What an amazing storyline!!

If u like Everyone's  Gone To The Rapture, u will love this game too
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Been thinking of buying Gone Home for some time now, either on PC or PS4, but never got around to it. How much did u buy it for? Was there a sale?
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post Aug 8 2016, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Aug 8 2016, 09:15 AM)
free for PS+ members.
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Ok, thanks! Will download it now smile.gif
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post Aug 22 2016, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Aug 22 2016, 01:23 PM)
ah not bad. shorter sikit. but wonder how (if real) it does in regards to heat management.
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My thoughts as well. Slimmer version = less ventilation/smaller fan. Hmmm..

As a side note, I'll gladly subscribe to Unifi even though their prices aren't very competitive. If only they were available in my area. For now I have to make do with mobile broadband sad.gif For some applications, it's faster than Unifi but what sucks is the limited monthly quota.
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post Aug 22 2016, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Aug 22 2016, 02:52 PM)
ouch! so no inet at all? even streamyx? play with a few guys on streamyx and not bad. sometimes cannot, but so far i think boleh tahan.
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No unifi, no streamyx, no Time, no astro iptv...currently using a Mifi device with digi simcard inside.
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post Sep 8 2016, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 8 2016, 06:23 PM)
Here's my 2 cents on the PS4 Pro.

The Good
- Sony pushing HDR and HDR is indeed a game changer, it's more impactful than 4k res IMO.
- The price is right, $400/RM1799 is a good balance ground.
- Checkerboard upscaling is actually built into the GPU, so it isn't software post-process based like what Quantum Break uses on the Xbone. This means devs can just flip the switch on and off on their dev tools, then optimize accordingly.
- 4k upscaling is a good move and I'm glad Sony is making it mandatory that every game works on the PS4 and the PS4 Pro with various "modes".
- Polaris architecture is the right move, tbh I had some worries that Sony would use a Fiji based GPU like the R9 Nano but with much lower GPU clocks.
The Bad
- No UHD Blu-Ray drive. This is a seriously stupid omission. Most modern 4k smart TVs can stream Netflix at 4k, why the hell is Netflix 4k a selling point on the PS4 Pro? Also, 4k streaming is pretty shit on Netflix, it's barely comparable to a full 1080p Blu-Ray iso.
- A UHD BR drive adds $15-$22 cost production. Of course if you look at it on a big scale manufacturing, that is a lot of money. But the xbone S has a UHD drive, so if one wants to argue that the PS4 Pro would then have to be priced higher than $400, why isn't the PS4 slim which costs the same as the xbone S have a UHD drive then?
- Sony is promising the moon, but will probably end up giving us the cheese. Remember the PS4 unveiling 3 years ago? 1080p gaming blah blah blah, today we have the PS4 struggling to maintain 30fps on most games.
- Because Sony wants to release the PS4 Pro this year, it really mean that they have no competitor to the Xbox Scorpio. The PS4 Pro is using an underclocked RX 480, a Polaris card. The Scorpio will use presumably, AMD's Vega architecture next year. I feel that Sony is shooting themselves in the foot again, where in the original PS4 they should have gone with a HD7870 based GPU instead of a HD7850 GPU.
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If we forget about the PS4 Pro being a 4k upscaling machine (lelz), but look at it solely as a 1080p60 machine with mostly maxed out visuals on most games, then I feel that the PS4 Pro makes sense at this point, today. Doubling it as the actual companion to the PSVR is also a very sensible choice, because frankly speaking; the PS4 just can't do intensive VR.

TVs then, HDR is a game changer indeed, but be aware that you really need a TV equipped with a HDR hardware processor and not just backlight trickery to produce HDR content properly.
Majority of the 4k TVs today, entry level and up to mainstream mid-range models DO NOT have the necessary HDR hardware to process HDR10 content to its maximum detail. Netflix HDR yes (SMPTE ST2084), but unless games uses the same subpar standard then what most people would see on TV like the Sony X85D is a limited range of HDR (which is ironic).

TV choice will be critical guys and unfortunately, the 4k TVs that really have all the bells and whistles for proper HDR processing, low input lag, and amazing PQ - they cost A LOT. Here's hoping come CES 2017 there will be more midrange 4k TVs with high-end features in them.
Do not buy a PS4 Pro because you want it as a 4k upscaling console or buying into the HDR hype without having the actual equipment to see it in its full glory. Buy the PS4 Pro if your current PS4 breaks or buy it if there will be plenty of games doing 1080p60 OR; buy it to compliment the PSVR.
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Good points.
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post Sep 9 2016, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Sep 8 2016, 11:49 PM)
i just preordered ps4pro for rm1.6k incld postage to sarawak.

was thinking to buy a ps4 slim but it does not have an optical out (i need that for my Chord Mojo amp/dac). not to mention, the price difference is not so significance.

well, i dont have a 4k hdr TV (using Dell U2515H 1440p resolution monitor), so hopefully more developers will follow the Rise of The Tomb Raider graphical options route, giving ps4pro users the options of:
1) uprender to 4k (for those with 4k tv)
2) 1080p same texture quality with normal ps4 but with higher frame rates
3) 1080p but with higher quality texture than normal ps4.
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Wow, you're using a Chord Mojo with your PS4? How do you connect it to the PS4? The difference in sound quality/volume must be significant..no?
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post Oct 22 2016, 10:52 AM

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Is PSN still down? Wanted to play BF1 multiplayer last night but couldn't sad.gif
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post Nov 8 2016, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(blackblackk @ Nov 8 2016, 10:31 PM)
Exactly! I bought COD during the multiplayer-only sale.. always high ping and unplayable.. Built a high end PC, cant let it go now..
Thanks for the feedback, maybe will have to wait for ps4 pro
Sounds good, will jump to ps4 very soon  rclxms.gif
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Do keep in mind that FPS gaming on PS4 will not be as customisable as it is on PC. For example, most FPS games for PS4 the FOV is fixed and narrower compared to PC version. Some hardcore FPS guys can't accept this and prefer to play on PC because of the wider FOV, some say it induces nausea. Also, high end PC graphics will always > PS4...well, the normal PS4 at least, not so sure about PS4 Pro.

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