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 PlayStation 4™ Community Official Thread | V14, PS4 Pro Announced - $399 (November 10th)

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post Apr 28 2016, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 28 2016, 02:07 PM)
- at a normal TV sitting distance, you'll not notice any meaningful difference in picture sharpness for a TV around 40";
define normal distance, optimal distance are determined the size of the screen
heck, even a 240p res movie will look good on a 60" if you're sitting 10 meters away tongue.gif

- there is no 4k gaming console, even the rumor PS4.5 won't have any real native 4k resolution for gaming;
who knows future you might get game patch for 2k/4k res?
What I predict with PS4K is all games will still support 1080p by default, but the developer can add in the option for 4K res, those who wanted 4K may download the patch separately, or the 4K texture can be stored on separate disc, all this has been done before on other console.

- even your Astro HD channels is not full HD (yet they already looks very stunning on the full HD TV);
who still watch Asstro with their so called crappy HD channels?  Sorry their so called HD content still hurts my eyes. tongue.gif
Netflix is the future, full HD content upscaled on 4K TV is already very stunning, not to mentioned there are 4K contents on Netflix as well.

- there is little 4k blu ray movie titles out there.
When was the last time you have a look at Amazon's 4K bluray library?
That's the same thing ppl said when bluray first came out tongue.gif

- it's better to get a quality FHD TV that will last very long than an ayam brand UHD TV with questionable reliability.
Branded UHD TV is getting affordable now, Samsung & LG both having good quality 4K TV for very good price.
Avoid those china brand

So, go grab a 4K TV now wink.gif
own experience from a 4K TV owner wink.gif
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I guess I offended a 4K fanboy here and disturb his sense of superiority......
- when I mentioned normal TV sitting distance I'm referring to 7 feet plus from the sofa for a typical Msian apartment home. Not everyone is wealthy/lucky enough to have 10 meters space between TV and sitting area.
-"all this has been done before on other consoles"? Please tell me which existing consoleS let you pick 4K texture. You have your prediction on rumor PS4.5, I had mine. Unless the console maker want to sell their console with a price tag of of high end gaming rig, the current gen console won't have NATIVE 4K resolution, notice "native", not upscaled.
-I mentioned Astro not because they were the best, but because they are the most subscribed tv show provider locally, which mean most will LIKELY be using on their TV (of course that does not include you since you like to btrag about being superior). Yes some of the HD channels have a bit too much compression and a bit blurry (especially the western channel), but there are those HD channels that shows Chinese drama that absolutely look stunning with crispy picture and vibrant colors (for us commoners at least);
-No, as a commoner I don't source my blu Ray from Amazon. Yes you're more superior.... Yay!!!!!!
- the comparison made regarding the purchase of Ayam brand 4K tv with a branded FHD TV of course is based on the assumption that the price tag would be similar. It's unlikely that a Ayam brand 4K TV has a price tag anywhere near a branded 4K TV, otherwise the Ayam brand will lose its only selling point.

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post May 4 2016, 11:59 AM

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Just found out that Asia PS Plus will be getting different free games compared to other region.
No Tropico 5 for Asia PS Plus, instead we only get another pixelated 16 bit indie side scrolling shooter game doh.gif (seriously any android/ios free game will look much better than this "PS4" game)
Luckily the Table Top Racing game remain, looking forward to racing a few rounds online, hope it's fun rolleyes.gif
Beside Helldivers, I have not enjoy any of the free to play games so far, seriously considering not to renew the PS Plus subscription next year hmm.gif
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post May 4 2016, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ May 4 2016, 12:20 PM)
hehe. you must treat the free games as a bonus. the RM129 is just to play online games actually like black ops or division and such.
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But those free to play games are not really bonus, they are part and parcel to the stipulated package of the PS Plus subscription. Sony is making substantial profit from the PS Plus subscription.
Xbox gold is giving away games with more value so far. I guess those who side with the underdogs will be treated better, when one side with the winner, one gets treated like a beggar. That's not even considering the different treatment/deal given to different region consumers doh.gif
How is Tropico 5 = 8 bit shooter in terms of value????????
This is what R3 subscriber gets to replace Tropico 5........ seriously, nobody would even download this on an android/iOS device.....
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post May 4 2016, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ May 4 2016, 12:24 PM)
ya, them freebies are just gravy.
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This sort of bad gravy will spoil the main dish........ consumers will remember the huge value disparity between Sony and Microsoft online membership when they need to decide which next gen console to get.... that's like just another 2 years time perhaps....
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post May 4 2016, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ May 4 2016, 02:13 PM)
holy shiat. better play on a CRT monitor yo.
wasnt that interested in tropico but better than this. asik asik shooter.
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But even CRT monitor has better resolution than this 8 bit game.....this is obviously a game designed for tiny screen on a very dated handheld device, yet they shamelessly port this onto PS4 platform........ I'm really confused, some people can accept these sort of 8 bit graphic as RETRO art style gaming, but would they have the same tolerance if a modern day 3d game has the graphical quality of PS1 or PS2? doh.gif

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post May 4 2016, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ May 4 2016, 02:29 PM)
i cannot tahan. even minecraft everytime i look at it . pisses me off. but sorta accept it as it allows for crazy building which a higher graphical demand will affect the gameplay. but for these new retro games.... i mean at the time those were the graphical capabilities. they were pushing the boundary. now its like, lets roll back and make retro games. hai... retro games are retro because they are classics, they bring back nostalgia, they are old. dont make new retro games. hai....
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I'm okay with NEW retro game (retro game style with HD graphical polish), like Double Dragon Neon.
Just cannot tahan new game with pixelated graphic disguised as RETRO.

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post May 4 2016, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ May 4 2016, 02:45 PM)
double dragon? macam nice.

but in all honesty I'm not one to bother about console wars nowadays. I just get whatever the majority of my friends are on, or whatever suits my fancy.

consoles are imho, relatively cheaper than what it was back when i was a kid in the 80s and 90s lol.
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I previously play this Double Dragon Neon on Xbox 360, just realised it's also available on PS3 rclxms.gif This is RETRO gaming done right, not new game with lazy pixelated graphic DISGUISED as retro.
Console wars? We need not take side with either console makers, but competition is good for consumers in general. Otherwise we end up with monopoly that charge high price but provide lousy service/good..... so many example in BolehLand. doh.gif
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post May 4 2016, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ May 4 2016, 02:44 PM)
that one not really retro lah. remake only, almost like a whole new game but same story heheh.
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Well it is a remake of retro game, retro gameplay with new graphic polish... so it is retro lah biggrin.gif
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post May 4 2016, 03:37 PM

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Talked about nostalgia and retro gaming. Anyone watch the movie Pixels? It's pretty light hearted movie about alien invading Earth with pixelated retro gaming characters like snakes, Pacman.......... thumbsup.gif
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Just checked the US store for the retail price of the May free to play game:
Tropico 5 = US$59.99
Shutshimi (the 8 bit side shooter) = US$9.99
Looks like Asia subscribers are shortchanged by US$50.00 doh.gif 2nd class customer indeed.

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post May 4 2016, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ May 4 2016, 04:23 PM)
Shutshimi was part of the IGC for April US PS+ for PSV/PS4

usually Asia PS+ will get the games from US PS+ IGC one or few months later
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Eh.... what's IGC? I thought we have the exact same free to play game in April? confused.gif
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post May 4 2016, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ May 4 2016, 04:28 PM)
Instant Game Collection, part of the benefits of PS+

that's the free to play games of PS+
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I just checked, the US IGC game Shutshimi in Apr stated PS Vita only, but the one coming to Asia May IGC is stated as PS4/Vita........ confused.gif
So it's still the same, Asia subscriber getting the short end of the deal. A cheap vita game being used as free to play for PS4 for the month of May.... very disappointing sad.gif

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post May 5 2016, 04:55 PM

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sweat.gif doh.gif reply from Sony Msia Blog over sarcasm towards its next round of IGC.

yusuf950 says:
May 5, 2016 at 2:16 am
Hey everybody Sony has announce free PS plus games on ps4 for month of June 2016…THE EXCLUSIVE GAME FR PS PLUS R……..THE TEMPLE RUN ND…….PACMAN CLASSIC BETA…free!! Free!! Free!! If Sony notify dis mesg he will definitely give……lol

Spideyz168 says:
May 5, 2016 at 9:28 am
So we won’t be getting Dig Dug and Frogger in June!? LOL

PlayStation Communication Manager says:
May 5, 2016 at 4:05 pm
Sorry, we have no information for PS Plus June’s lineup, please stay tuned. Thank you!

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post May 6 2016, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ May 5 2016, 10:18 PM)
well some people dont mind pay for it even at high price , but most people prefer cheaper option ( other region ) mostly R3 .. yea digital is the best option nowdays for R1 games
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But if both R1 and R3 games is the same, why not opt for the cheaper R3 game? confused.gif
Is there a lot of censorship in R3 games?
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post May 6 2016, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(nill @ May 5 2016, 07:05 PM)
i remember PSN Asia gave last year PS3 Ep1 Ibn Sada.
Never heard before the game. Worst thing?
Until now you can't find the rest of the episode in PSN store.
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I believe the main reason for different free games for Asia region is mainly due to the cheaper pricing of the PS+ in Asia. Our PS+ is cheaper by around 33% compared to US or UK hence that's why we are given low value free games from time to time to maintain their preset profitability for this region.
If that is the main reason, I would welcome a frank and honest reply from Sony whenever people complain against getting inferior free games compared to other regions. Don't lie to us by giving dishonest answer like "the free games are up to PUBLISHERS" which is totally BS.
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QUOTE(panda-man @ May 6 2016, 09:41 AM)
i think the R1 & R3 before was also for collection and to get access to content first. but yeah for me i never cared. just go for the cheaper stuff.

ps+ still havent updated the free games. but now the things not working. i wanted to just DL the ones from my PS3, it says free but when i click it it says RM50 doh.gif broken so i guess will be updated to the new games soon.
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Yup was constantly checking the PS+ hoping to download the Table Top Racing but freebies still not yet updated..... sad.gif
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post May 6 2016, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ May 6 2016, 10:56 AM)
IGC for each region is determined by the game publisher in that region, also regional licensing issue
So not necessary means what's in US PS+ IGC will be the same for Asia PS+ IGC
It has nothing to do with the price we are paying for.

FYI, Tropico 5 is banned in Thailand,
since Thailand share the same PS+ content (Asia), so the chances of PS+ Asia getting Tropico 5 is super slim
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That's weird, last round I checked the Q&A of Helldivers regarding query of why certain region got extra free DLC the Helldiver developer said it is up to the each region's PS store decision, the developer said they have no control over the IGC. confused.gif
Sony would be paying the publisher/game developer for the game to be given as IGC, doesn't make much sense to me that most of the time the publisher withhold the game from going free for tiny market like Asia, it's not like they could sell a lot in Asia market (compared to the West) confused.gif
Why would Thailand ban the game?
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ May 6 2016, 11:18 AM)
Developer has not much say over how the Publisher wanna publish their games
in the case of Helldiver, their Publisher is Sony
So they are correct to say it's Sony's decision laugh.gif

Tropico 5 banned in Thailand cos Thailand is still Military Junta ruling, the gameplay and some ingame trivia touched their nerves. tongue.gif
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That sucks.... would have been great if they just withhold the game from Thailand store. I see lots of complain on Singapore and HongKong PS+ blog for not getting Tropico 5 doh.gif
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post May 6 2016, 11:27 AM

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So there has been a few times that Sony (as the game publisher) withholding games/DLC from going free for Asia IGC (helldivers All Terrain Pack, God of Wars on certain platform etc.). So Sony's profit margin must have played a significant part in arriving to such IGC decision, since the publisher is Sony itself.
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post May 6 2016, 01:34 PM

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Table Top Racing finally available for download for Asia PS+

Do some basic upgrade and we can have a few round of friendly races by this weekend biggrin.gif

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