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post Apr 28 2016, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 27 2016, 10:24 PM)
Please don't get entry level Dolby Atmos AVRs. They usually come in a 5.1.2 config, which really only works well in small-medium rooms even with 6" drivers in-ceiling speakers. Not to mention these entry-level AVRs has pretty subpar amp sections to begin with, connecting so many speakers is simply crippling your audio performance unless you like to listen at -30db under reference, 3 feet away from your LCRs.

You want to do Atmos, do it properly. Aim for 5.2.4 if 7.2.4 isn't possible. If you can't do either, stick to good ol' 7.2 setup which is extremely immersive if done right.

And please, if you do Atmos, don't buy into those ceiling reflecting speakers bullshit.

As for wireless or wired speakers, I personally will always go wired. Wireless speakers are powered by their puny batteries, of which needs to be designed to "last longer", so the amount of voltage + wattage it supplies to the driver(s)/tweeter will be very limited hence even if the speaker's capability is decent, it can't do justice. Not only that, wireless speakers will mean that if in the event of the battery going dead, you have no choice but to send it back to the manufacturer for replacement. Go wired, plan out your room, look where to run and conceal cables.
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Thanks again Ben. I'll definitely will heed your wise advise. I don't plan to do wall mount as for the tv. I have bought a 6 feet tv cabinet in advance. This time instead of going for satellite speakers, I think I'll go for bookshelf speakers. hmm.gif
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post Apr 29 2016, 05:26 AM

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post May 1 2016, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(OPT @ May 1 2016, 08:28 AM)
I'd suggest Mudah website or hifi.net (or something like that...)

IMHO, AVRs and speakers are quite long lasting. Shouldn't be an issue with display or used unit.

Desa Home Theater sometimes sell these new units at quite a bargain...
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I agree. Desa Home Theatre offers very good bargain during big sales. I will go there and buy (Kepong). icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 6 2016, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ May 5 2016, 03:35 PM)
FWIW,

I got tis :

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JBL in-ceiling spkrs

l tried em by substitutin it for my fronts [ plugged in de fronts red/blck bananas ] ; it was all for a  little while so l guess its not a real honest to goodness trial but it sounded tinny - l suspect its lack of bracing and box contributes to tis..
For wat its intended for [ overhead spkrs once ; if ever ; l do go atmos route..] , l guess it wont be too shabby..
But l wont go tis route for proper boxed spkrs for surrs - l prefer to know exactly where my sound is coming from boom/bang bass included..

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post May 8 2016, 04:47 AM

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There are so many brands. It depends on preferences? hmm.gif

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post May 9 2016, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 9 2016, 03:45 PM)
A lot of brands buy drivers from China anyways. They design their own crossovers (which is the most time consuming part), the cabinet design, bracing, size, port if needed and sometimes the amp if its an active speaker or a sub.

The drivers aren't expensive, it's the R&D which is the actual bulk of the cost that consumers pay for when buying speakers (other than the snake oil of course tongue.gif )
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The tricky part is how to get it cheap........ rclxs0.gif
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post May 11 2016, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 10 2016, 04:06 PM)
Not tricky at all - http://www.parts-express.com/cat/pro-woofe...nge-speakers/31
They're easy to get, they're cheap to buy.
If you have a knack for good worksmanship, you can build your own speakers and subs. Warranty lifetime, everything lifetime. You pay considerably less money because you don't have to deal with bullshit marketing and whatever else.

Best of all? You build your own speakers, you have your own sound. You know what they say right? What sounds best to you is what's most important, nothing else is.
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post May 12 2016, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ May 12 2016, 08:19 AM)
Hell.. yeah..

Especially if u always go to AV shows and other rich friends place - n then come home to compare..

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post May 14 2016, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ May 14 2016, 09:04 AM)
Desa HT having 3 day Sale, Last day tomorrow Sunday.
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Anybody buying anything there? Care to share? icon_idea.gif
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post May 14 2016, 01:37 PM

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Here's the sales catalogue!

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post May 16 2016, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ May 15 2016, 09:26 PM)
Yamaha is coming with new models for the RX series this year
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RX- V381, 481, 581 & 681 as stated by bro Ben? brows.gif

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ May 16 2016, 01:18 AM)
I think now I'm in a right thread....planning to get Sony all in one bdv9200w but some members here already poison me to get a beginner avr and satellite speaker..my living room size 28feet long 10feet width 10feet height...which satellite 5.1 speaker suits me..wanna connect to my sharp 630x.hope sounds good then the 9200w..budget 2.5k..usage for Astro,dvd/bluray and music..suggest me some good beginner models I can look for...going to get before Raya...just doing some survey in lazada and saw the Yamaha nsp40 satellite speaker looks small but is it a good fit for my living room..pls don't ask me go n listen first because here my area very hard to find audio related shop...I think so far senheng is the best in my area taiping...thats why I'm going to buy in desa home kepong..i will go with member suggestion here caused so far it didn't go wrong..i bought my tv from member suggestion here too..so nice suggestion or idea pls...thank you friends🙏
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Desa Home Theatre guys will be guiding you. Just state your budget to them but still I will highly recommend you go for a proper av receiver and satellite speakers for beginner. Hari Raya sales will be a smart choice to buy and if not either by October this year or by early January next year. smile.gif

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post May 17 2016, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ May 16 2016, 06:35 AM)
Also 781. All with atmos
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All with ATMOS? I don't think so..... confused.gif
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post May 17 2016, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ May 17 2016, 03:54 AM)
😊 too many poison in my head now haha hope not burn my pocket out http://vbizz.com/spk51wn-5ch-speaker-packa...alnut-5073.html just saw few 5.1 speakers within my budget mayb abit over 2.5k.. http://vbizz.com/spk160rw-5ch-speaker-package-5071.html searching keep going on...feel like wanna try the floor type 5.1 the Yamaha np40 I think for living room abit small..the spk51 price around rm1500 if i can get a avr for rm1400 it will be around rm2900...most probably will get it on Raya corner..😋
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Quite expensive stuff in the website.
For instant vbizz = Yamaha AV RX -V379 = RM1966.30
Other websites it cost only about RM1399

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post May 17 2016, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 17 2016, 07:04 PM)
No it's not. Only v581, v681 and v781 has Atmos and DTSX.

The v381 and v481 only have 5.2 channel processing, how to have Atmos?  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ May 17 2016, 07:08 PM)
Thanks.

Seems like SG already have the new rx x81. Malaysia still no news.
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post May 17 2016, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ May 17 2016, 07:41 PM)
Yup..my pic below from the plaster ceiling
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It's very cramped obviously. Forget about floor speakers. A pair of bookshelf speakers provided with a center speaker will do. I have no idea where to put those surround speakers. No space for subwoofer too! I am eager to know the right hand side of your hall. In my opinion that would be a better location. The left side of your current tv location doesn't have any free wide space for the sound. Suddenly I'm thinking of wireless speakers for you! rclxub.gif

Anyway, you have a beautiful tempered glass tv cabinet tho..... thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(OPT @ May 17 2016, 09:43 PM)
I have owned a HTiB, satellites and floorstanding/bookshelf.

HTiB is only slightly better than TV speakers. Satellites plus a sub is few notch better than HTiB.

IMHO, if you are really going for a HTiB, might as well just use the TV speakers.
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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ May 17 2016, 11:30 PM)
Will go with your suggestion I have no idea on audio related product just start learning...the svs prime comes with the 12 inch subwoofer just now I search saw with four book shelf with 12 inch sub looks very nice and small....is it very expensive how much here and where to get it..if expensive I will bought the bookshelf first and sub later but its really look nice the colour suits my cabinet..after bought the speakers then will go with acoustic panels...oh gosh is it just for bookshelf rm2500 just for a pair...i think its really over my budget any other similar type..im now fix with bookshelf speakers just give some idea how many pair I need I think with my limited space I didn't plan for future upgrade maybe like four bookshelf with a sub good for me..thank you so far for your kind help
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Considering you have limited space, this sample might suit you best. An av receiver, a pair of bookshelf speakers, a center speaker and a subwoofer.
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