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SSJBen
post Jun 13 2016, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ Jun 13 2016, 08:25 PM)
I think I have to wait for 81 series then...yesterday I whatsapp acoustic system seller they said price for Yamaha 679 RM2650 😌..
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That's before promo price, don't worry. It has went down lower than that many times over the past 6 months.
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post Jun 27 2016, 11:02 AM

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Those looking for an entry level receiver, the v379 at 1.3k is a pretty good deal already. It's also the only entry level receiver I can recommend; fairly high reliability and sounds good (for the price).


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post Jun 28 2016, 03:15 PM

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I'll be going on the 22nd, the first day.
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post Jun 28 2016, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 28 2016, 03:37 PM)
Me too
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Want to meet up? I think I'll be there after lunch.


QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 28 2016, 04:24 PM)
Tauke2 all go first day! Got big project maybe wanna grab good deal first!  brows.gif
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No tauke tauke la.. tongue.gif

Just that first day on the Friday usually it's less crowded.
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post Jun 28 2016, 07:56 PM

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I already watched the first Conjuring with DSU. Needless to say, it was a really "pants-shitting" experience. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 20 2016, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jul 20 2016, 06:42 PM)
Need some advice.. I'm currently using a z906 as my HT speakers. But I am having some issue with Dolby Digital decoding with it. I don't really want to spend so much money upfront to get new stuff. So I'm thinking to just get an AV receiver first to replace the decoder (z906 sub will still run via its own decoder) I will split the signal from the source, one to av another to z906 for the sub. Then plug the z906 speakers to the new receiver.

My requirement is only for 5.1 and nothing fancy. As future proof as possible is always better. I gone through a few pages of this thread and see Yamaha RX-V379 mention by some a few month back. Is this still a recommended one or any newer one has come up?

What is the price now? I saw in Lazada selling about 1.5k but out of stock.

Thanks.
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Generally yes if you just want a no frills, basic 5.1 receiver. The v379 was being sold for 1.3k just recently (again) at Desa HT btw.
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post Aug 9 2016, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(myxery @ Aug 9 2016, 10:54 AM)
@SSJBen, need your opinion. Currently i am using yamaha 377 pair with basic onkyo 5.1 speakers. After go through 32 pages of this thread i decided to buy sony ss cs3 floorstander to use as my front speaker. My question is will my v377 able to drive cs3?

Looking fwd to hear from you.
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I don't see any reason why it wouldn't? Unless you're in a big room (like over 500sq. feet or something) and sit like 20ft. away from the speakers, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.
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post Aug 9 2016, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(TR-8R @ Aug 9 2016, 04:34 PM)
Just want to ask sifus here, when the 60 series Aventage comes out, is it possible to get the A1050 with less than RM4000?
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Probably not, unless second hand.

Most stores have already sold out their Aventage xx50 receivers.

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QUOTE(myxery @ Aug 9 2016, 05:20 PM)
i am using SKF330 speaker family comes from HT-S580 package. It was real basic speaker (sell at mudah http://www.mudah.my/Onkyo+SKF+330+AV+speak...t-46895435.htm) so, i didnt expect much.
Thanks Ben, my room around 12x15 ft.
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Then you're good to go. Enjoy your speakers. smile.gif
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QUOTE(capoi @ Aug 9 2016, 08:24 PM)
Thank you for your info. The outcome from Google search, recommended speaker for movie purpose is to get a good center speaker. Do you all really agree with this? What kind of sensitivity of speaker i must look at?
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Generally, the higher the sensitivity, the easier it is for an amp to drive the speakers. There's no set standard of what speakers you should get based on sensitivity alone because there are just way too many factors that can affect volume output at the end of the chain.

Also take note that like all specifications in regards to the "numbers game", take them with a grain of salt. Many speaker manufacturers simply state for example 90db. But whether that was tested on a true 300hz-3khz band at a voltage of 2.83v at 1 meter per watt or not, well no one knows except for the maker themselves.

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post Aug 11 2016, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(myxery @ Aug 10 2016, 07:57 PM)
if floorstander, how to put 3rd one? its gonna be a huge speaker
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Acoustically transparent screen.
When you go to a THX-certified cinema, the LCR speakers are behind the screen.

For home, you obviously will need to have a big room to do this optimally.

Most people can't, so the option would be to get a horizontal center channel. However, there are several horizontal CC designs and depending on your usage and room layout, you will have to choose carefully on which to get.

Too long to explain in a post, so read here - http://www.audioholics.com/loudspeaker-des...annel-designs-1
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QUOTE(myxery @ Aug 11 2016, 03:52 PM)
ooo we're talking projector + screen already. What about using TV as a display, what is recommended center speaker? What criteria to put into consideration. Let say my LR freq response 45-50khz
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Please, read the link I posted above. All your answers are there.

You can have L/R that goes down to 15hz and tops out at 80khz, no one will be able to tell you what center channel to get. Again, rule of thumb is try and match the LCR tonally. It's a matter of trial and error.
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QUOTE(capoi @ Aug 11 2016, 09:20 PM)
Thank you so much. Anybody here use ELAC speakers here? I read a lots of good review about B5 speaker.
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They're good bookshelfs for the money. You'd generally need to spend more than twice the B5s to get double the audio quality. That says a lot.
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post Aug 16 2016, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ Aug 14 2016, 10:53 PM)
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Desa Home Theater Kepong having Warehouse Clearance Sale from 11th August 2016 to 31st August 2016. Anything that might interest us?  brows.gif
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Some pretty good deals there.

For receivers:
1) Entry-level wise, the Yamaha RX-v379 at RM1099 is pretty much a no brainer. I'll drive home the point again, this is the best entry-level receiver on the market currently. No other receiver at this price point would be as reliable as the v379 (which consequently has the highest amount of sales worldwide for a 2015 receiver).

2) For a more mid-range budget, RM2k for the Yamaha v679 is another solid choice. Understand that the overpriced A750 is basically just a re-named v679 with an additional fifth foot. Don't fall for the marketing bs.

3) Denon X5200w while is a little old in the tooth now with no DTSX support, it is still a very good receiver at RM4k. However the Yamaha RX-A1050 is RM100 cheaper with DTS:X support, but limited to only 7 channels processing while the x5200w has 9. I honestly think at the sub-RM4k bracket, one should just focus on a solid no-frills 7.1 (or .2) setup. Don't cheap out on ground layer speakers just because you want height speakers.


For speakers:
...Unfortunately, nothing really catches my eye except the Wharfedale Jades. Won't say they are absolute bang-for-buck kings, but they're decently priced I'd say. Wharfedale usually have a very warm signature sound, which I don't really like for HT usage. The Jades are still warm speakers by design, but they're more towards the neutral side in comparison to their other line-ups (especially the popular Diamonds).

As such, I'd feel that the Wharfedale Jades are nice and fun sounding speakers for movies and games, while still having the intimacy when it comes to music. Worth a listen definitely.
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QUOTE(rizal77 @ Aug 16 2016, 03:23 PM)
Dean Ben,
How do I play my flac file stored in a hard disk to this Yamaha amplifier? What I know is , this V379 model doesn't have usb input right?
If other models have USB input, we can easily connect a harddisk and play the music files, right?

thank you in advance.
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Well, you can't, not directly at least. The v379 has no networking features, so DLNA or streaming off your local network is not possible.
Yes you are correct, there is no USB inputs either (which is dumb, I know) so local storage playback is not possible as well.

Of course, the work-around is that you can just connect a source with a HDMI/optical and play your music that way.

Other models with USB input can indeed play music files off a local storage device.
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QUOTE(rizal77 @ Aug 16 2016, 03:39 PM)
that is what really baffles me...
usb input is one features that I like. I can straight away play all my flac collection directly by connecting my 1tb harddisk.

Instead now I have to open another player, like ps4 or media player just to play my music...right???

So meaning for V379 amp, I need to used another player just to play music files. Am I correct??

thank you again.
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Yes that is correct.
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post Aug 16 2016, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(rizal77 @ Aug 16 2016, 03:48 PM)
Dear Ben,
So if were to get a Yamaha Amp with USB input, which is the next logical model? my budget is tight as well as I have fixed my eyes on v379....huhuhu

thank you Ben.
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Either the v479 (RM1749) or v481 (RM1949). However, both models are so close in price to the v679 that I suggest just going for the v679 instead.

If you dare to roll the dice, the Pioneer VSX-924k at RM1499 has USB playback support for music. Just know that the Pioneer VSX line has been very shabby in the last few years, you either get a unit that doesn't break or one that just doesn't work for no logical reason. Otherwise the VSX-924 is an okay-ish AVR.
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QUOTE(TR-8R @ Aug 16 2016, 03:56 PM)
Snapped up the RX-A1050. So want to ask for recommendation for speakers and subwoofer to be paired with the receiver. Think I'll start with 3.1 setup first. Mainly use for movies and music. Budget is 2k to 2.5k.
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RM2.5k for 3 speakers + a sub or 2.5k for each component? If it's the former, then it's going to be very hard to recommend anything with decent quality.
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QUOTE(rizal77 @ Aug 16 2016, 04:04 PM)
But why V679 doesn't get rave quite a good reviews as its other cheaper siblings? huhuhu
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Because there are a lot more people who buy entry level subs than more expensive ones.


QUOTE(TR-8R @ Aug 16 2016, 04:04 PM)
It's RM2.5k for 3 speakers and 1 sub.  blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif
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Sony SS-CS3 x 2 = RM1200
Sony SS-CS8 = RM499

Forget the sub.
With your budget, the sub that you can get will be rubbish and you'll just end up throwing it away in less than a year. Get the front 3 speakers, save till you have another RM3k and then get a proper sub.

TBH, if I were you, I wouldn't even do 3 speakers with a RM2.5k budget. I'd just pour it all into an ELAC Debut F5 floorstanders if space permits (RM2.8k), otherwise if space is an issue I'd get just get a pair of SVS Prime Bookshelfs for RM2.5k+/- or so.

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QUOTE(rizal77 @ Aug 17 2016, 03:22 PM)
Dear all sifus,
Just wondering anybody has listen/bought to the Sony CS3 floorstanding speaker? Care for a comment?

Seems SSJBen words of wisdom has stucked on my brain now...sigh
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In Malaysia at least, not many floorstanders can match the Sony CS3 in price, performance and general build quality.

To me, the CS3 are very nice all-rounders. Its sound signature is more towards the neutral-warm side. They aren't super transparent and they do color the sound a little bit with some warmth. They have pretty decent bass (again, at this price you cannot expect too much) down to 55hz or so. Output is pretty solid above the 65hz mark, so rest assured that mid-bass frequencies can definitely be heard and felt.

The ironic thing is that many subs at the RM1k-1.5k range are just fart boxes, they just boom with no life, no tactility, and distort like an ass at or below the frequencies that they are supposedly able to play to. The CS3 at least wouldn't distort and while it definitely wouldn't be as loud as any of these farting boxes, at least you get some quality bass instead of just quantity.

On the midrange, I wouldn't say the CS3 does very well. I mean, vocals just don't sound or feel as natural on the CS3. Not to say they are bad, they're definitely a lot more passable than I expect, but it's missing the ingredient to truly make vocals sound like they are projecting from the air instead of the speakers. Fortunately, the midrange were never dull nor muddy, often times they come through clean and clear with a good amount of detail.

I don't like how Sony markets the so-called "super tweeter" on their speakers as a whole. I mean, other than bragging rights, what's the point of having speakers go up to 50khz? That said, the highs on the CS3 are fairly smooth and detailed. Never heard any hints of harshness, they're very easy to listen to. However they're not as dynamic and as airy as I'd want them to be, the similarly priced ELAC B5 bookshelfs does even better than the CS3, without a "super tweeter". Thankfully, imaging is pretty solid and off-axis response isn't too unbearable to listen to.

The competitor to the Sony CS3 is the once, overhyped and extremely popular Pioneer SPFS52 by Andre Jones. In comparison, the Pioneers sound boxy. Yes it has some bassy chops and on its own, is a fairly dynamic set of speakers. But it just isn't as balanced as the Sony CS3. The build quality on the Pioneer FS52 are also quite shoddy, just do a search and you'll see what I mean.


For the price, the Sony CS3 are good deals and will remain as one as long as Sony continues to sell them. ELAC Debut speakers are the next step up, as are Q Acoustics (if you want small), Wharfedale Diamonds, and KEF C series speakers.

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