Thermal interface material, Discussions on thermal pad/paste/grease
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 Dec 23 2006, 09:23 PM
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hey guyz..just want to ask a few questions
 1]when applying the TIM on the IHS do i need to spread it out first using the credit card method or just let the weight of the heatsink to do that for me ? 2]just apply the TIM on the IHS only or need to apply on the heatsink also?  thanxx  |
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Dec 23 2006, 10:11 PM
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owh okayy thanks
what if say i use a stock heatsink which isint so heavy?isit still alright?and the amount of TIM needed is only like a small round dot rite like maybe 3mm in diameter |
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Dec 24 2006, 11:28 PM
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i just used normal alcohol to clean off my heatsink's base
 worked fine and managed to get all the dirt off |
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Jan 3 2007, 09:26 PM
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wait.correct me if im wrong but i thought using AS5 for gpu core isint recommended?cuz the core doesnt have an IHS and AS5 is like metallic and may short circuit the whole card if the as5 touches other than the core?
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Jan 5 2007, 07:06 PM
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so is the Chill factor really better then the AS5?
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Jan 7 2007, 05:55 PM
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i just took out my faulty msi mobo's northbridge heatsink in attempt to lap it
but found out that there's a square pad and the thermal grease in the middle.could that be a thermal pad?and another thing,on those chips that has thermal grease on it how do i clean it up?is it safe to use alcohol? |
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Jan 7 2007, 10:12 PM
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oh okay.minyak angin
dont really know whats that...so cant use normal swan alcohol?will damage the chip rite |
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Jan 8 2007, 09:12 PM
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articlean expensive lah..rm25 compared to the swan alcohol rm3
btw the alcohol wont short circuit the board rite if it touches the pcb? that's the main part im afraid off |
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Jan 8 2007, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 8 2007, 09:50 PM) though it wont short circuit your board but it will do a minor damage if you leave it too long. try not to spill alcohol on your comp.  QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 8 2007, 10:01 PM) Well, its ok considering that RM25 can last you quite a while.And i do not feel wana take the risk in using other type of alcohol that potential can damage my proc...So, i would say,RM25 is well spent here... oh okay..dang looks like i've gotta get them articleans anyway  btw minor damage as in?  |
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Jan 10 2007, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(WilliamSun @ Jan 10 2007, 01:26 AM) wat u mean by getting a small tube at rm2+ or big tube at rm5+ ?? the 3.5g AS5 is rm25 while the 12g AS5 is rm52 that's what he meant.. |
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Jan 12 2007, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 11 2007, 06:09 PM) Would those silver based TIM will normally be better than those ceramic based ones?Or its just a gimmick in using different based type? if i remembered correctly after applying AS5 its recommended to swich ur pc off and on like normal use..after the 200hour sink in time den u can go back to 24/7 Testing the AS5 on my current system for already 140hours++ without turning off my PC.No drop in temperature but no increase as well.Staying at 34-36c..Should i turn it off to see a more significant decrease as i start off at around the same temperature before changing the AS5.. |
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Jan 15 2007, 07:35 PM
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its not?
 then what exactly is it?says that it isint electric conductive and all that .. |
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Jan 26 2007, 04:26 PM
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hey guyz i just got myself some ceramique and arcticlean so i was wondering how do i clean the old TIM off the chip?say the northbridge or gpu core?
can just directly put the arcticlean 1 on the chip?will it damage the card/mobo? |
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Jan 27 2007, 12:45 AM
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oh okay...thanx for ur help
just reapplied ceramique on my proc,northbridge and gpu hsf so far gettin 33c idle on both mobo n proc but my proc temps are fluctuating alittle..goes up and down by 1 or 2c  |
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Jan 27 2007, 12:50 PM
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yeah im using ceramique
temps can get that low cuz now my system currently no oc with my cap ayam psu cant do much about it till my fma returns.hmm i thought ceramique doesnt need sink in time and AS5 needs to wait? |
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Jan 27 2007, 08:52 PM
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oO okay...wah longer then AS5's 200hour?
now im not even sure whether i applied correctly  |
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Jan 28 2007, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 27 2007, 11:45 PM) Refer to the manual lor...the best way will still be the grain rice method...let the HSF to spread it evenly... yeah i did that..used the hsf to spread it ceramique out  Just re-install my Noctua NH-12F into 180 degree, now have better air flow and the idle is around 44-47C...still waiting for AS5 to sink...hope the temp can drop to at least 38C or lower...  but still kinda worried if its evenly spreaded out.cuz my hsf's base not very smooth and its my first time |
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Jan 29 2007, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 28 2007, 08:24 PM) You will know it when the next time you take out your HSF to clean... yeah.have to wait till my Ultra90 and Chill Factor arrives then only i'll know If you use HSF to spread it, suppose to be spread evenly...unless your HSF can't give enough presure to it which I don't think will be the case...  question : if say my TIM isint applied properly,would it give me random reboots/crashes if i OC? |
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Jan 30 2007, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 30 2007, 01:15 AM) answer for your question: if you didnt applied your tim properly, the temp will be higher than you expected. crash or reboot when your processor overheated. so make sure you check the temp when u boot up, if higher than normal or your expectation, shut down and check your mounting and tim. dont wait till your comp auto restart else it will be too late. hehe.. oh boy.im not too sure myself.cuz idle temps are like 37c and full load 45c with ceramique.but these are all on stock/no oc what do you think?with my old generic TIM i got 34c idle and 45c full load. |
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Jan 30 2007, 10:04 PM
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it only auto reboot when i OC to 2520mhz.now stock no problems.stock temps also quite high edi worh..last time i oc to 2.7ghz idle 37c and full load 48c already.but wasnt on ceramique lah.now approx 36hrs+ already
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