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irangan
post Dec 6 2006, 05:11 PM

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yeah.. a very small bottle..
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post Dec 7 2006, 12:35 AM

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besides small it also look empty ... i had asked my friends that is not familiar with the stuff...

"what you will get for what you pay for?"

they look at the bottle for while and answered me

"what are you paying for anyway?" , "empty bottle? ", "what is this for??", "why nothing in there?"
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small bottle that look empty..... too bad can't fine any good deal on AS5 smaller tube....

maybe will pay my old friend at Robyn Imbi a visit for it ....

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post Dec 7 2006, 12:58 AM

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not much inside, dont know really will last me 10 application or not as advertised.
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 7 2006, 12:35 AM)
besides small it also look empty ... i had asked my friends that is not familiar with the stuff...

"what you will get for what you pay for?"

they look at the bottle for while and answered me

"what are you paying for anyway?" , "empty bottle? ", "what is this for??", "why nothing in there?"
....
small bottle that look empty..... too bad can't fine any good deal on AS5 smaller tube....

maybe will pay my old friend at Robyn Imbi a visit for it ....
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Gulp...
You're friend sure asking a lot of question that kinda stop from buying...
If it were me, it sure stop me from buying it... sweat.gif

What the hell does zalman think of?
It's so small, it's too little quantity of paste in there...

Paiseh...

But still, PCMM review still doesn't reach 8 days yet...
I'm pretty sure that he'll post the review on that paste on PCModdingmy.com wink.gif
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post Dec 7 2006, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 7 2006, 12:35 AM)
besides small it also look empty ... i had asked my friends that is not familiar with the stuff...

"what you will get for what you pay for?"

they look at the bottle for while and answered me

"what are you paying for anyway?" , "empty bottle? ", "what is this for??", "why nothing in there?"
....
small bottle that look empty..... too bad can't fine any good deal on AS5 smaller tube....

maybe will pay my old friend at Robyn Imbi a visit for it ....
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I agree on this issue.I went to ALL IT the other day just to get this Zalman paste from them and i saw they only have 2 tubes.When i take a look at it, the bottle seems kinda small to me.Out of my expectation that it was so small.Anyway, when i take it out and was on my way to pay, i turn the bottle upside down and it doesnt seem to contain anything..lol..It was really like an empty bottle.Not even a slight drop of thermal paste inside.I know its those hard type but man, it scares the hell out of me as if i am buying a broken product.So i decided to put it back and maybe order from a trusted forummer here..lol..
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post Dec 7 2006, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(akachester @ Dec 7 2006, 09:03 AM)
I agree on this issue.I went to ALL IT the other day just to get this Zalman paste from them and i saw they only have 2 tubes.When i take a look at it, the bottle seems kinda small to me.Out of my expectation that it was so small.Anyway, when i take it out and was on my way to pay, i turn the bottle upside down and it doesnt seem to contain anything..lol..It was really like an empty bottle.Not even a slight drop of thermal paste inside.I know its those hard type but man, it scares the hell out of me as if i am buying a broken product.So i decided to put it back and maybe order from a trusted forummer here..lol..
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So, we all do have the same experience, and agreed that the bottle was small, and looks empty, and didn't come to our expectations...

Kinda weird eeh?
Mcm kebetulan je... laugh.gif

I guess zalman should do something about it, but... come to think of it, even they will make something to it like making the bottle bigger, think, even a small bottle like that cost you RM32 at ALLIT, what will a bigger bottle priced at? rclxub.gif

Funny though... laugh.gif
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post Dec 7 2006, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 7 2006, 12:35 AM)
besides small it also look empty ... i had asked my friends that is not familiar with the stuff...

"what you will get for what you pay for?"

they look at the bottle for while and answered me

"what are you paying for anyway?" , "empty bottle? ", "what is this for??", "why nothing in there?"
....
small bottle that look empty..... too bad can't fine any good deal on AS5 smaller tube....

maybe will pay my old friend at Robyn Imbi a visit for it ....
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like i said b4 ler bro.. the bottle is about 10ml but its contain only 3.5g thermal paste same quantity as AS5 there.. wink.gif

btw.. still hoping for better results from PCmoddingMy.. sweat.gif
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post Dec 7 2006, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 6 2006, 05:13 AM)
dude, don't post twice la, just use the edit button yawn.gif

anyway, already edit the 2nd post, hopefully anybody can understand unsure.gif
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I noticed it few minutes after that post, that's why i added the second post instead of editing it, I got experiece this could cause quite amount of confusion( you might be replying my post at that time ), does it make sense? I'm not sure about the lowyat forum(I'm new here), if there is such rule, let me know.
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post Dec 7 2006, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(akachester @ Dec 7 2006, 09:03 AM)
I agree on this issue.I went to ALL IT the other day just to get this Zalman paste from them and i saw they only have 2 tubes.When i take a look at it, the bottle seems kinda small to me.Out of my expectation that it was so small.Anyway, when i take it out and was on my way to pay, i turn the bottle upside down and it doesnt seem to contain anything..lol..It was really like an empty bottle.Not even a slight drop of thermal paste inside.I know its those hard type but man, it scares the hell out of me as if i am buying a broken product.So i decided to put it back and maybe order from a trusted forummer here..lol..
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boss, need to shake the bottle then you will see the liquid. else all of it will stick on the bottle.
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post Dec 7 2006, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 7 2006, 02:59 PM)
boss, need to shake the bottle then you will see the liquid. else all of it will stick on the bottle.
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lol..i know there is thermal paste inside the bottle but the way i see it, it does seem scary.From the outsite, it really looks like empty.Anyway, any user here bought this paste yet?How much does 3.5g can last if i will use it on CPU,Northbridge & GC HSF?I mean will it be enough as i personally havent bought any nice Thermal Paste before..
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QUOTE(akachester @ Dec 7 2006, 03:09 PM)
lol..i know there is thermal paste inside the bottle but the way i see it, it does seem scary.From the outsite, it really looks like empty.Anyway, any user here bought this paste yet?How much does 3.5g can last if i will use it on CPU,Northbridge & GC HSF?I mean will it be enough as i personally havent bought any nice Thermal Paste before..
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it shud be enough ler bro.. tongue.gif

if u use on CPU,Northbridge & GC it shud last up to 3 times thumbup.gif
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post Dec 7 2006, 04:24 PM

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i bought one from Moderno.. still waiting for its to sink in. from what i see now, temp is higher than before.
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post Dec 7 2006, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(zamree7 @ Dec 7 2006, 11:39 AM)
like i said b4 ler bro.. the bottle is about 10ml but its contain only 3.5g thermal paste same quantity as AS5 there.. wink.gif

btw.. still hoping for better results from PCmoddingMy.. sweat.gif
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I still prefer AS5 as the promising result compared to Zalman ...

some report better while some report otherwise ....
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post Dec 7 2006, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 7 2006, 05:19 PM)
I still prefer AS5 as the promising result compared to Zalman ...

some report better while some report otherwise ....
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dont jump to conclusion. wait the stuff to sink in then only decide lo. mana tahu, zalman stg1 need to fully sink in then only can see the difference. i am having my finger cross on that smile.gif
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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 7 2006, 05:46 PM)
dont jump to conclusion. wait the stuff to sink in then only decide lo. mana tahu, zalman stg1 need to fully sink in then only can see the difference. i am having my finger cross on that smile.gif
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Yea, waiting for the your result then..If the zalman does do better, than i think many people will switch their eyes to it though..
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post Dec 7 2006, 09:57 PM

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So far, zalman STG1 prove as a failure lo (probably i using Stock Cooler), not good enough in spreading the heat. Before this, my idle is around 34-35 then Full load around at 55-57. after applying Zalman STG1, idle 40'C Full Load 65-67. that's why i said probably zalman thermal paste need time to sink in only can see the difference.

anyone using Zalman STG1 and used it on other cpu cooler?
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post Dec 7 2006, 11:16 PM

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I used the ZM-STG1 on my notebook CPU and the heatsink...the temperature dropped by 3-5 degrees only. But however it is better than without thermal grease where the temperature goes very high sometimes.
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On Scythe Mine + STG1 (bought from Moderno) on a C2D E6600 and applied ~ 4 days ago.
Right now heat actually went up 1-2 degrees under Orthos CPU stress test according to CoreTemp. On idle it went down 1-2 degrees.

I tried accelerating the burn-in process by running Orthos for a day but didn't see much difference. Now I'm back to slow-cooking it.

Will report in once 7 days are up.
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post Dec 7 2006, 11:20 PM

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according to pcmoddingcom, need to maintain 60'C for 3 days straight to fasten the process of sinking in. i dont dare to try. sakit hati....
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post Dec 7 2006, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 6 2006, 11:31 AM)
You can choose either to use thermal paste / grease on the notebook or not by you're choice...

Normally notebook manufacturers didn't bother to put any Thermal paste / grease between the processor and the heatsink...

I've repaired so many notebooks, and open a lot of their casings [i only open the notebook casings that the warranty is over already laa laugh.gif] and none of them uses thermal paste / grease... smile.gif

Every notebooks that i've opened, i'll put some thermal paste on top of the processor die, coz this will help more in transferring the heat to the heatsink...

So my suggestion is, put a thermal paste, it's better that way... smile.gif

Ahh, another thing, if u look on the heatsink, did you find somekind of metal zink sheet?

If you do, take it out, then clean the heatsink with some alcohol, then apply the thermal paste to the processor die itself...
The themal paste will work better if you take out the metal zink sheet... wink.gif


Ohh, and by the way, you don't have to use AS5 for notebooks processor as they are cool enought to be use with those normal white thermal paste... thumbup.gif
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do that apply to normal P4 stock cooler also? i saw my heatsink with that metal zink sheet too. take it off and better performance?


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