QUOTE(zstan @ Nov 20 2020, 05:34 PM)
Prices of all vaccine counters could drop any moment as they are all not priced for reality.STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V150
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V150
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Nov 22 2020, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Nov 20 2020, 05:34 PM) Prices of all vaccine counters could drop any moment as they are all not priced for reality. HereToLearn liked this post
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Nov 22 2020, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Nov 20 2020, 05:39 PM) If wan to reap rewards from gloves, u must be confident, capable of ignoring all the noises, and most important, be patient. You can't keep stock for very long term, no matter how safe they are. You can have a look at a Maybank chart for example.I always like this quote from Buffett, very meaningful and its an absolute truth in stock market: You especially can't keep a stock and be patient when there is some global crisis. |
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Nov 22 2020, 06:39 PM
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Nov 22 2020, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Nov 22 2020, 12:43 PM) Not covid extend 4 more years. Read carefully. If the situation prolongs slightly, THE BUSINESS of gloves can extend bull run as many countries r stockpiling gloves. Worldwide production capacity will go up while demand is slowing. Glove prices will drop significantly and so will all the glove counters.That is why many countries r going into glove making: Vietnam, Indonesia, China, Thailand... myers liked this post
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Nov 22 2020, 06:46 PM
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Nov 22 2020, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Nov 22 2020, 06:32 PM) Maybe i modify abit, Lets take Harta. Cause i plan to add them into my portfolio if price is right. Harta is currently one of the most expensive glove stocks.My calculation will be to take their normalized earnings post covid @ PE20 plus 3 years of super profit. So a simple back enveloped calculation will give me as follow: Targeted Normalized EPS: 20sen @ 20PE = RM4.00 3 Years of Super profit (RM2.40 EPS) RM4.00 + 2.40 (Earnings) = RM6.40 <-- Target Buy price So i guess not a factor of 10. Drop by half from now i will consider to add into as a long position Even at 6.40, post normalized earning it is still trading at 30X earnings which is still quite rich in terms of valuations and already consider very good for the business owners. HereToLearn liked this post
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Nov 22 2020, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 22 2020, 06:45 PM) when u make a statement like that, u should say when it will drop and by how much. I don't have time to check how many countries are setting up how much capacity. Fact is worldwide capacity will increase significantly. You can look at Malaysia alone and see how capacity is added. and pls provide details/reports/research/evidence to support it. if not, it's a like a demigod farting. myers liked this post
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Nov 23 2020, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(funniman @ Nov 22 2020, 08:05 PM) Important to find out stage of vaccine trials. Some not even phase 1 or 2, sign mou, share prices fly. Pharma, Dpharma, Ahealth, Zuellig Pharma all potential importers. Kanger, Solution, Bintai, all potential distibutors. Some more got cold chain logistics. So many counters, how to invest? Most of these counters will never earn a single penny from vaccines. People will need to get out before this is concluded about these counters. |
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Nov 23 2020, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Nov 22 2020, 08:48 PM) Sharing some info for Malaysia glove newcomers capacity (although just a tiny fraction of the big boys gloves, glove market still gets a bit crowded, most of these small ones wont go far) Just imagine the type of capacity a country like China could add once they get serious about this.Goocean - 2b DGSB - 600m GPA - 3.6b Iconic - 3.1b Cetech - 846m Salcon - 3b Vizione - 1.5b Gets - 4.1b Luster - 2b Hongseng - 1.5b AT - 2.6b Aspen - 3.5b Karex - 500m Mahsing - 3.68b |
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Nov 23 2020, 05:57 PM
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Nov 23 2020, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Nov 23 2020, 05:06 PM) Actually i wonder why raw mat supplier dont jack up their asp by 10x tho if that is the case. There are many suppliers out there. They would have to all work together to increase the price that much. Otherwise nobody will buy from that supplier.Or isit they already did ? If there are input material constraint isnt that usually bad for the manufacturer ? Unless topglove control the upstream as well. |
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Nov 24 2020, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Nov 24 2020, 12:14 PM) PE 1.5k, greed knows no bound. History keeps repeating itself. There are loads of these counters out there. You are basically gambling when you buy them, as they could drop massively at any given time.People will still sign up for quick to rich scheme no matter how ridiculous it may sound. When they join such a scheme, they should have prepared for this kind of situation. These are the operators - a certain famous facebook page. Stock gurus are exactly like property gurus - make money from their followers and eventually bring them to Holland (except the very 1st few early followers, who get to cut profit) And all the analytical people who advised them not to fall for such schemes will be bashed as naysayers. Some people like gambling, so I can see why they are being bought. HereToLearn liked this post
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Nov 24 2020, 04:04 PM
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Nov 24 2020, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Nov 24 2020, 04:56 PM) From the business model of VSTECS and its latest QR. Profit is growing. You have to be a bit careful with any stock which is suddenly traded much higher than what is normal for it, maybe due to all the new people going into the stock market. This stock's profit and revenue have been relatively stable since 2016. But stock price has suddenly shot up in June this year.It is Malaysia’s largest distributor of ICT products such as notebooks, personal computers, software, servers, smartphones and tablets. It has over 5,000 resellers covering 40 well-known brands. It also provides value-added product support and technical services; computer maintenance services; network implementation, system integration, Internet solutions, software support, hardware repair and maintenance, and warranty services; and management services, as well as engages in the letting of properties. VSTECS Berhad distributes its products in the Asia Pacific, including China, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines, Cambodia, Laos, and Myanmar. With the current pandemic and WFH policy, hopefully the profits will continue to grow. Current PE is 11.44. Simply Wall Street rates it as +78.15% undervalued. OK, I think that is a bit too much. Maybe +30% upside is more accurate. My 2 cents as usual. |
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Nov 24 2020, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Nov 24 2020, 05:13 PM) No problem. Keeping my fingers crossed. I have been buying BAT since during the first MCO. I personally am against smoking but like the high dividend yield and future prospects.I notice that a lot of forumers here talk in general or sophisticated terms but nobody shares what he or she is buying. Eh? Why is that? |
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Nov 24 2020, 08:53 PM) I don’t dare to touch BAT. The illicit cigarettes problem will only get worse in this weak economy. How many people can still afford to pay RM17 for a packet of cigarette? BAT themselves had introduced a cheaper brand as well called KYO, selling around 11.50 if I remember correctly. Their market share had gone up a bit.My kopitiam view. KYO There were some announcements in the budget which were targeted at the illegal cigarettes. Budget 2021 |
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Looks like those analyst predicting an EPF selling effect were right. It certainly seems to have a major impact.
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