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SUSYH1234
post Feb 10 2021, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 10 2021, 10:31 AM)
Yes. For trading only.

Now rebounded slightly already. Unrealised gross profit at RM180.  smile.gif
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what is your definition of trading? i tried few time, i mean day or 2 days trade, in most case, i was forced to convert it to investment. you sell irregardless gain or loss?
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post Feb 10 2021, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 10 2021, 12:25 PM)
For me, trading can be day trading or I may hold the stock for days,weeks or even months. The main criteria is the profit or loss trigger.

Sometimes, I get lucky. Profit of 10% to 20% in a day or two. Then I sell. Sometimes loss of 10% or more. I cut loss.

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thanks, psychologically i still have problem to cut loss. and i like yr statement "sometimes i get lucky", after a while doing so called trading, i believe luck play a main role, in short, i start to believe stock price is random in the short term.
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post Feb 22 2021, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Feb 22 2021, 12:52 PM)
if you haven't decide what to do with the money from cut loss, then no point to cut loss now, especially it's due for rebound soon as it's currently oversold.

you need to find opportunity first then cut loss. And if you want to cut loss, you can cut when it rebound.

if not after cut loss now, if the stock rebound then you are stuck in the middle of nowhere.

my 2 cents.
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keep cash is actually one of the best option.
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post Feb 24 2021, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 24 2021, 12:24 PM)
Pre pandemic price.
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a bit excessive, that said, what make most think the seller is not the main/major shareholders? is the transaction really that transparent?

i rarely make money averaging down, loss amount is similar just over total share it seem lesser per unit, problem is we commit more and more capital, hold cash make one less emotional. i think average up is a more rational move.
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post Feb 26 2021, 01:23 PM

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"i know many here has other platforms...share them, guys?"

public mutual not too bad, i know many might wanna start to mock, but i believe their performance is better than many retailer, at least 80% maybe?

invest in book like jesse livermore and niederhoffer, they bankrupt multiple times doing trading.

buy small and add more if price up, dont averaging down unless one miss the chance to cut loss, nobody know when the bottom is bottom, i learn my lesson investing muhibah, a relatively strong fundamental counter among bursa, it fall from 2.60 all the way down to 0.80. averaging down kill in this case.


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post Feb 26 2021, 06:12 PM

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i dont thimk glove stock at the current scenario is value investing. its cyclical nature is quite similar to commodity, like oil and gas.
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post Feb 27 2021, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 27 2021, 05:39 PM)
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is okay then. Made a bad analogy.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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not really bad, many bought bat n tell the dividend is fantastic, n many analyst reports keep changing their methodology to justify the latest target price.
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post Mar 1 2021, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(JohnKekHow @ Mar 1 2021, 06:31 PM)
If you want to make fast money (holding period like 2days -2 weeks) like into swing trading style should not depend on Fundamental...must look at Technical part. Usually Im looking at buying/selling volume on 15minutes-1hour charts and also current market depth (sell/buy que order). This also depends on the current stage of the counter chart ie Accumulation, Markup, Distribution and Markdown phase. Make sure the overall trend is uptrend based on daily candlestick price is above the MA20 or MA50 line to improve your winning rate laugh.gif
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is ta work for all counter, or any counter? theoretically it shd, but in most cases, i believe it probably work for you in stock that you know very well, the pattern,trend. volume etc.

fa is more about management style and future performance i guess. qr release in feb current year on dec result last year is known dec ly, or latest by jan cy, in fact most management decided what number to report in nov ly and finetune accordingly in dec unless something unforseen happen, even though the result is confidential, but is this really the case?

one elder once told me, dont buy public bank, this boss never goreng his own company. me follow his advice n see how pbbank fly all the way up after many years and still flying, ergo i think i start to grasp what fundamental analysis is about.
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post Mar 2 2021, 03:45 PM

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"Or else, prepare for sleepless nights"

i bought edgenta n kmloong recently, i can sleep well, only problem is feelin damn bloody bored kind of trading life.
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post Mar 2 2021, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Mar 2 2021, 03:14 PM)
Which is more painful?

1. Suffering real losses by cutting now? or
2. Suffering years of paper losses until the price recovers?
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1 truth
2 hope

2 is always less painful.
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post Mar 3 2021, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 3 2021, 12:33 PM)
My heart cannot take the roller coaster ride...old man already... sweat.gif
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i am really curious can one make profit trading the way you do, you are super active, no matter whats the result, at least you are doing thing you love, and fun as well. how much capital you allocate for trading purpose? i do 10k max, just wanna have some adrenaline feel and make life more exciting, since the probability of losing is slightly lower than genting.
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post Mar 5 2021, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Kar Weng @ Mar 5 2021, 06:24 PM)
Thanks for sharing uncle.

For me I learned the lesson that I entered KGB at a high price without a clear, sober head. I was thinking that I entered with an investor mindset, I was planning to hold for the longer term. But why did I feel the desperation when my paper profit turner into paper loss? I should only feel concerned if I’m a trader and don’t believe in the company’s fundamentals.

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i am a bit perplexed if one could really discern the mindset of a trader or a investor. the main reason i allocate 10k for so called trading is because that is the max for goreng counter, mainly glove and tech. this is the only self control discipline approach i can think of to regulate myself.

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post Mar 6 2021, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 6 2021, 09:16 AM)
Likely a pump and dump exercise. Noise.
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i acted smart and lecture my friend why put money into a pyramid scheme, its absolutely a con job, i know,, my friend respond, as long as i am at the top and not the last to pull out, great chances i make money, and lots of money. it seem my friend is smarter than me.

i guess everyone here know what they are doing, as long as one ride on the pump and not the dump, they are pretty safe, and can make money some more.
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post Mar 6 2021, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Mar 6 2021, 04:51 PM)
Monday will be glove day. Mark my word
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mostly likely oil and gas, and recovery. buy and wait for the pump.
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post Mar 9 2021, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 9 2021, 12:10 PM)
Seems like many people confused Air Asia with Air Asia X laugh.gif

once interstate allowed and most people get vaccinated Air Asia gonna fly at full force. Revenge domestic travelling.
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aax is for longer flying time route. airasia is mainly domestic and south east asia. i dont think domestic flight is profitable, the foreign tourist incline to fly numerous times when they come to this region, especially among thailand msia indonesia spore because airasia is pretty cheap to them. without the foreign tourist or border remain close, i suppose aa cant survive. not sure how is the response of their unlimited pass launch recently, but at least they work very hard to make money, by hook or by crook.

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post Mar 9 2021, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(cofin @ Mar 9 2021, 01:00 PM)
its the flight route and license to fly .....
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mas also have similar or more flight route and license.
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post Mar 11 2021, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Mar 11 2021, 10:33 AM)
because they got the asset that everyone is eyeing, if they can survive.

theedge already reported why investor buying their PP.
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i think edge reporing is for readers pleasure. aa asset is the brand, to tony's credit no doubt, but his prowess is he know how to what hker call money roll money, using aa brand. a gambler know this game well.
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post Mar 17 2021, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Mar 16 2021, 07:30 PM)
Exhausted, uncertain what to buy, or simply nothing exciting to look forward for. And yes, mourning as well, lol...

I also believe since MCO lifted, people have to be back in office more and hence, less time to see stocks tongue.gif
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buy glc, pnb invested co, buy whatever co that look boring.
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post Mar 22 2021, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 22 2021, 01:06 PM)
plastic supply chain cover cruel oil, refinery, resin producer and plastic producer. plastic packaging manufacturer is only value add on injection moulding, blowing, etc. raw materials price rise may increase revenue not necessary profit.
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my experience tell me most plastic manufacturer would profit more when there is fluctuation of material price, especially up, main reason is customer lose grip of their suppliers real costing. i think hawker price up is a good analogy.

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post Apr 7 2021, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Apr 7 2021, 11:51 AM)
Well i wont agree with his view on buying gloves at this cycle. But among all the glove i do think he chooses the correct glove counter to hold the fort.

Apart from Harta most actually is doing short term things instead of focusing of the next gen of glove making and how to handle this supply glut that is forthcoming.
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my cousin work in one taiping glove factory told me harta is the most advance in r&d.

he said msia glove co enjoy no real competition for almost 10 years up to 2018, it really tough for the following 2 years until covid come. this is not something they look forward but it happened, legalist han feizi call this interest driven while taoism believe it is a destiny. if one turn his or her glove trading into an investment, treat it as a destiny.

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