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SUSYH1234
post Apr 7 2021, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 7 2021, 12:37 PM)
Heavily manipulated couldn't be random.
Must as well leave it to fate.

your cousin may tell china production line is more advance and cheaper than topg.
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my cousin said that, but not cheaper unless one achieve a technology breakthrough or economy of scale, countries with four seasons tend to have higher cost of production in glove manufacturing.

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post Apr 7 2021, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 7 2021, 03:50 PM)
Not sure what you are referring to.
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pay more for newer machines? i am still curious with so much cash on hand, would this manufacturer now opt for german/japan made or go for china made? the price difference could be 3 folds.

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post Apr 8 2021, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Apr 8 2021, 11:18 AM)
LKL supply gloves too? It’s been down more than 70%, had to rise a little
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if you believe it is not random, you may buy now, and tell whether the chances of rise is more than down or vice versa.

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post May 29 2021, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ May 29 2021, 12:31 PM)
when the relationship/trust between the company & auditor is severed, best thing is to part ways, hence the proposal by one of the director

onus is on kpmg to respond, but as netizens always do they will come out with their conclusions first laugh.gif
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i think trust is not a criteria for audit task. relationship is between the personnel, which is not supposed to exist between a professional firm and his "client". i dont think simply part ways is how audit profession work.
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post May 29 2021, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(rapple @ May 29 2021, 12:21 PM)
Sometimes I wonder what's the intention of this people, why the need to manipulate account to pay more taxes? to get more funding from existing loan? to pay more dividends?

My view last time was,

a) is normal to have businesses roll on credit/financing to sustain their operations. Not healthy but they don't have a choice because there are already in it.

b) increase in sales & in receivables is kind of normal for most business because there's always a few bad pay master and in pandemic this is even worse, collection can be drag until 180 days instead of the usual 90 days.

Lucky that I don't have significant holding here, but at least i learn something from this losses..

really appreciate your view on serba account.
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my guess only, maybe boon hv the data or chart, take a look at what is the 3 stock price momement of the last 2 years, its more than sufficient to pay any tax and dividend, moreover one that pay tax is the company.

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post May 30 2021, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ May 30 2021, 03:51 PM)
i work with auditors before, not under  rolleyes.gif
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the auditor you work with told you their fee is base on trust or volume of work plus risk assessment? in a private co, you can simply terminate auditor service, however public co is a diff story, especially if the shareholders include authorities, funds and foreign investor etc. a auditor would tell you are his client when everything run fine, however if under scenario like serba, they would tell you kpmg is your auditor, not a client in a common biz relationship. read most of your response, you sound like one that argue for sake of arguement.
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post May 30 2021, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ May 30 2021, 04:53 PM)
yes i agree, for public company, auditors are important as check & balance, especially to shareholders

no one said kpmg shouldnt raise red flags, serba management also never express any dissatisfaction that kpmg raise red flags, it's the sequence of events that followed... u seem to be confused with what i said, perhaps read up more

and in case auditors find fraud, usual practice is to walk away, rather than delaying the audit...obviously kpmg did the latter only and did not want to resign
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kpmg audit not started on 2020, and their responsibility and accountability is not limit to 2020 onwards, thus walk away and resign is never a solution, like one commenter here said, they prefer serba to terminate them. i am curious how long you deal with auditor, you seem very naive on how audit work.
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post May 30 2021, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ May 30 2021, 05:49 PM)
Never a solution to safeguard their own reputation so they leave it to serba to act? How nice of them 😏

Im not an accounting auditor myself, of course there are things that ive not encountered, and u seem very protective of them, im more curious how much more u know about auditing, can share more laugh.gif
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i skip your first para bec its too stupid to merit response.

in most cases, whether to continue pursue depend on few thing, first the partner attitude, he is one that bear the consequences since he sign off the acct, secondly the firm reputation and working culture cum practice play a role, thirdly risk tolerance level and forth how much verified document they can secure to safeguard their ass.

auditor is merely telling the reader if the acct present a true and fair view, that's all. they are not here to find or detect fraud, in fact most auditor lack the capacity to do this bec the process is not designed for such purpose. enron fraud was detected by a university student and later an investigation reporter, its quite impossible to find fraud just by going through document.

in serba case, i guess the mgt or that fc dont even bother or too lazy to make ready all the required verification and force kpmg into a corner bec like you put it, they believe they pay enough to buy trust and relationship.
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post May 31 2021, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ May 30 2021, 09:34 PM)
and after all these crap u give it still doesnt justify kpmg not reverting back to the company after may 6th

and in the end it still comes down to guesses and the assumptions, try harder  laugh.gif
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the crap is to demonstrate your unique ability of failing to understand other peoples point, repeatedly, predictably and completely, without further guess and assumption i can therefore asssert that it is quite impressive in its own right for one that claim he work with auditor.



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post May 31 2021, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 31 2021, 08:56 AM)
Dude, it's pointless to argue with immaturity who is skin deep in the stock. They will never accept the reality that they had made a terrible stock selection in Serba. Do remember one does not wrestle in the mud with a pig. Best is to ignore.
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ha, i first thought i can teach a pig to fly though i know its rather unlikely, i gotta go back to school and relearn the concept of odds....

talking abt odds, serba seem to be the only oil and gas counter that make gain for 12 consecutive quarters even when oil price dive to lowest level once. it was on my radar but i decided to go for dayang instead when i read the old man sold all.
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post Jun 1 2021, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Jun 1 2021, 05:00 PM)
In summary.

What I said was:
Nobody saw it coming (even big funds), it’s best to have a limit of how much of a stock you own compared to your overall investment value.

What you are saying:
Big funds make mistakes.

I agree with that. In fact everybody makes mistakes.
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recently i start to ponder whether to choose the so call best stock, or randomly pick a basket, since we are not privy to what constitutes best performer, and we cant afford to make a too huge mistake, i may take the latter path to reduce risk.
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post Jun 2 2021, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 2 2021, 10:21 AM)
http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2021/0...uk-aja.html?m=1

Ahhh... someone made a table as suggested.
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on reading most financial report, i trust only 2 number, cash and debt due to it nature of no hassle to confirm, sales/ar and gp/stock is interlink, and not easy to verify thus prone to manipulation. the reason i hesitate to buy serba in the past is not ar, my concern is more of their gearing. i rarely buy stock with gearing more than 1 except infra stock like mmc and malakof.
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post Jun 5 2021, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jun 5 2021, 10:25 AM)
Do they artificially increase TOTAL RECEIVABLES in Balance Sheet to boost net profit? Could some to the extend create shell companies (to generate the receivables)?

If what Calvin said is wrong, go ahead to dispute him with facts, saying he has a bad reputation without even giving a valid point is called defamation.

So he gave valid points, Guru here counter him with valid points lah.
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very difficult to access right and wrong, its a free world and anyone can say anything, just bear in mind we are one that shd accoutable for our own action. sometimes one might guess it wrong but still make money, while many predict what would happen correctly but still losing money.

in case black monday happen again, we can see at least 50 to 100 gurus that could guess the incident right, simply because they talk and give prediction everyday if not every hour, similarly one out of thousands strike lottery from time to time.
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post Sep 8 2021, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Sep 8 2021, 06:30 PM)
haven't touch yet rclxs0.gif

even if it's 3.50. it's already 10.50 before ex

double of pre-covid price
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never cross my mind about that, i start buying glove counter, i am curious to know how much i can lose buying counter with pe less than 3, in fact i never bought any stock with pe multiple less than 5 in my entire investing life.
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post Sep 9 2021, 03:08 PM

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if we take jpm word, tg 3.50 now is reasonably pricing.
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post Sep 11 2021, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Sep 11 2021, 03:27 PM)
Based on contemporary history, Beijing might give the middle finger to Soros. He was successful in so many market with his aggressive shorting position, but i doubt China would let him be right this round.

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/arti...g-china-blunder
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it depends on what xi want, a liberal stance albeit in economy term might strengthen his opposing force, either domestic or foreign, i think he is still not that determine to be the remarkable mao/deng or the ordinary jiang/hu. soros bet on the formar while blackrock of the latter.

if xi can achieve the same growth under a relatively closed and controlled economy with a tighten grip of power then the copy capitalism faking under the slogan socialism with chinese characteristic would become a real one, and fa hayek should have returned his nobel prize and award it to xi the lifetime wansui chairmam on a subject how ccp hammer liberty and freedom.

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post Sep 19 2021, 07:05 PM

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i deem low pe stock as lower risk rather than bargain, some perceive this two are similar in nature, however to me lower risk denote consistent improvement while bargain is when the stock could have a double or triple digit growth in profitability. i rarely buy trendy stock because i dont know what is the best time to sell, and most of the time while i do this i am back to square one in the end and if unfortunately follow with an event like black swan, i be worst than when i first started.

thats my rational to go into glove now.
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post Sep 26 2021, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 26 2021, 08:59 AM)
p/s I do think you are correct but it doesn't appear that the Chinese govt will bother about valuation except its own agenda.
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cant say ccp dont bother, just that most so called tech co is not state own, whats the point to enrich foreign investor and shanghai clique when both political battle and ideological fight, domestic and state, are coming?
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post Oct 3 2021, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Oct 3 2021, 09:53 AM)
Bro, what u kept repeating last year end and early this year turns out to be true and very accurate too. Very sorry to make fun of you last year. I myself made some looses with the gloves and had decided to cut it already. I guess many ppl  are loosing too.
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his all the way bearish outlook would have 50% chance of guessing correctly, and the flip flop analyst chance of guessing thing wrong is 100%. thus follow closely what analyst say, and act the opposite is another option.
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post Oct 23 2021, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 23 2021, 09:20 AM)
Most consumers investors in this country are greedy cheapskate, willing to be abused for a cheap get rich quick deal e.g travel pass.
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msian is either conned by aa or mas cronies, it makes no diff, at leaat for aa, one have the illusion of value buy.

i think aa mgt declared of generous dividend in the past is a classic act and lecture of what is separate entity concept that shd be taught in every accounting class.

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